Time-Wasting Opinions!

[Guest realnicehat]

What someone does in business no matter what business it is has the basic principle: Client satisfaction.

 

I couldn't agree with this statement more but what I think a lot of people are forgetting is that until you exchange money for service you are still only a potential client.

 

In my line of work I regularly screen potential clients and turn away any that I feel aren't a good fit. From the first communication I have gotten very good at determining who will be high maintenance, who will attempt to lowball me, and who is just shopping prices. I politely decline jobs on a regular basis, sometimes because of one (or a few) stupid questions, other times because of the callers attitude. Perhaps someday, if the economy changes, I will have to accept every job that comes my way but for now I have the luxury of a steady (and satisfied) client base that allows me to be a little choosy on which other jobs I take.

 

If you were to take the above paragraph and change the word "job" to "client" at every occurrence I think you would find that it would accurately apply to a lot of the ladies on this board. The biggest difference would be that they also have to consider their own personal safety when screening potential clients.

 

nlwoodchuck started this thread with the hope that we could learn how not to be considered time wasters and effectively move from "potential client" to "client". He asked the ladies to share their opinions and perceptions yet when they do they are picked apart or are told how they should run their business. It's surprising how often that, on a board where we are all either seeking or providing pleasure, things can become adversarial so quickly.

[WriteOn 3250]

This post tells me all I need to know about you. Bottom line is this, you're neither polite nor respectful, because people who are polite and respectful don't feel the need to announce to the world how polite and respectful they are.

 

Ok, so a gentleman would never say in a post that he is a gentleman? That would be arrogant, why if he was a gentleman would he have to announce it? If I am following your logic correctly.

 

Anyone who publicly states in a post they are respectful to the ladies clearly is not? Hmm....

 

 

You don't follow the rules, because of the reason most people don't. Arrogance, conceit, narcissism, rules are for other people to follow, not you, because, in your mind, you're think you're something special. Well, guess what, you're not.

 

You and others are taking my comments of of context and because I have no friends here it is easy to pile on. Clearly my comments were not to suggest not following rules, it was to suggest a non-robotic communication with women I contact.

 

 

I don't know you, this is the first post I've read from you. How you could be so rude and disrespectful tells me one thing about YOU, you like to be a member of the popular group, you've read the thread, talked to your friends and see that the popular thing to do is to attack me. It worked for you the "popular kids" agree with you and showed their support.

 

 

Well it got you nominations and popular points so good on you.

[VedaSloan 119179]

Ok, so a gentleman would never say in a post that he is a gentleman? That would be arrogant, why if he was a gentleman would he have to announce it? If I am following your logic correctly?

 

Anyone who publicly states they are respectful to the ladies clearly is not?

 

 

 

You and others are taking my comments of of context and because I have no friends here it is easy to pile on. Clearly my comments were not to suggest not following rules, it was to suggest a non-robotic communication with women I contact.

 

 

I don't know you, this is the first post I've read from you. How you could be so rude and disrespectful tells me one thing about YOU, you like to be a member of the popular group, you've read the thread, talked to your friends and see that the popular thing to do is to attack me. It worked for you the "popular kids" agree with you and showed their support.

 

 

Well it got you nominations and popular points so good on you

 

Dude. You dug yourself this hole.

 

Reread your posts. What FilmGeek said to you was SPOT ON.

 

It's as basic as this, if you (the general you, not you specifically) can't read the extensive info that's been provided on our websites and in our ads, if you're in such a rush to get your dick wet that you can't even bother doing a bit of internet research (hi, there are guides to client etiquette out there: a quick google search of "escort + client+ etiquette" pulls up this link http://bellastr26.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/client-etiquette/), you should just wank off. If you have read it and can't be bothered to follow our rules/requests/etiquette, that says a lot about you and it's a GIANT RED FLAG. Dudes who can't respect virtual/online requests sure as hell aren't going to respect my wishes in person.

 

I am running a business; my website is written to answer as many common questions as possible. I still get a billion "what are you rates" or "where is your incall" questions when all of that wonderful info is provided on my website AND in my ads. Usually I redirect to the site. If you come back with yet more questions that have already been answered, well you can just forget seeing me. I don't have time to repeat everything that I've already spent enormous amounts of time SPELLING OUT for you.

 

Not to mention, if you made it as far as making an account on CERB, then you can access the "new to this?" section and don't need to be making excuses about not knowing how things work.

[Guest fi****ek]

 

I don't know you, this is the first post I've read from you. How you could be so rude and disrespectful tells me one thing about YOU, you like to be a member of the popular group, you've read the thread, talked to your friends and see that the popular thing to do is to attack me. It worked for you the "popular kids" agree with you and showed their support.

 

 

Well it got you nominations and popular points so good on you

 

I don't post to get nomination points, to be popular, to be politically correct or to curry favour with others. I have a point of view, a code of conduct, I don't claim to be a gentlemen or a good man. I have made numerous mistakes in the past, I expect to make many more in the future.

 

The entire notion, that I consulted friends, and arrived at some consensus opinion on what to post in order to be in with the "popular kids", is laughable and indicates how insecure you are as an individual. You might want to actually think before you post something so preposterous.

 

You want to feel sorry for yourself, engage in a pity party, play the role of martyr, be my guest, its your choice. If you're that outraged by my conduct, alert the mods and see about getting me banned. I won't protest. I won't look to defend my reply.

 

You wrote a post looking to see if you would be contested and you were and it wasn't just by me. Now, you're acting the part of the aggrieved.

 

If the whole point of being on cerb is to establish some type of reputation, I'm baffled that you would think your posts would somehow make you attractive to the women on this board. How? How is it possible? Are you that arrogant that you think its just about the money? That as long as you're willing to pay the requested donation, then nothing else really matters. That you don't have to make an effort too see things from their point of view.

 

Their game, their rules, I don't need to know any more than that.

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

Something just flew right over my head but I have no idea what it is!

 

 

 

 

 

On a side note:

[WriteOn 3250]

Dude. You dug yourself this hole.

 

Reread your posts. What FilmGeek said to you was SPOT ON.

 

Oh Hello Berlin and welcome to "Bashfest WriteOn" 2013. So you want to pile on? Ok.

 

I am running a business; my website is written to answer as many common questions as possible. I still get a billion "what are you rates" or "where is your incall" questions when all of that wonderful info is provided on my website AND in my ads.

 

Ok, you are running a business with a website full of information and still get a billion stupid questions?

 

What about this makes you angry with me, what I have said, specifically, that has made you angry at me?

 

Please, not the rules thing, that was clearly taken out of context, I wasn't suggesting a client not follow a SP's directions for an encounter. I was saying when I contact a provider I don't follow a script. I don't have a 3 message rule, etc.

 

Please not the joke thing, I'm sorry to you and all others it offended but it was a joke. To suggest any man takes pride in paying women for sex is ridiculous. I'm not proud of the fact that I pay women for sex and I'm not ashamed of it, I thought the absurdity of saying I've paid for more sex then most guys would be taken as self deprecating, it wasn't. I've never heard of a man bragging about paying for sex in my life.

 

So in the end, except for the fact I am clearly disliked, what is it that I've said that offended you Berlin? Why do you think such a personal,nasty attack by FilmGeek was warranted?

[fortunateone 156618]

Well shit I tried to stay away, even though I realize no matter what I say I will be jumped on I will take 1 last stab at it.

I have to take some responsibility as I clearly am unable articulate my position, which is simply inexperienced clients can ask what experienced SP's and clients think should be painfully obvious.

 

 

 

 

Really? A professional SP shouldn't have to educate a potential customer? Well, wouldn't she want to? Unless she has an established clientele and doesn't need new customers I would think she would welcome helping out new clients, guiding them, helping them to become more knowledgeable in the business which benefits him, her and any future ladies that he will communicate with.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. All I've been trying to say in all of my posts is that inexperienced people can ask what experienced people think are stupid.

I've never advocated not following rules and yes I am "experienced", I bet I've paid for sex more than most guys here :)

 

 

 

 

I just think there is a disconnect from what you think is going on versus what the sps are telling you is going on. You do have a lot of experience, which to me means you are not as familiar as we are with what the typical newbie is going to be doing or asking about.

 

What a newbie guy would ask is 'do I come to you or do you come to me?", nothing about who is paying for what hotel, he doesn't have enough experience to think that one of his options would be to rent a hotel room for the sp to come to him (outcall). i think the sps are naturally puzzled by the insistence that this is a typical (i.e. valid) question, and I think the majority of sps getting such a question would be eye rolling and hanging up/not replying, because if this is an example of how he is thinking, there is no hope he's also going to understand even the basics of setting up an appointment, let alone meeting and paying, and by that I mean, respecting the sp's restrictions, boundaries and limits. And that's assuming she believes he is a newbie potential, and not just an experienced guy playing games. Her first thought is probably the latter.

 

 

The other issue seems to be that you don't want anyone, mostly sps, telling you any of that. And that is your issue. You can either become reactionary whenever anyone disagrees with you, or even just tries to explain their own POV and experiences, and LEARN from that, or you can continue to repeat your own points, to the exclusion of all others.

 

 

Some take offense to the sps who do not have patience for very new first timers who sometimes have ridiculous questions. But it is their preference to not deal with first timers, or at least first timers that need a lot of hand holding. Some sps do deal with those guys. I'm one of those kinds. I'll tell someone things that are in the ad, I'll explain the difference between in and out, and give tips for looking at other ads, and making a good choice. But I promote that, and make a good session for someone doing this for the first time. I am not necessarily suitable for the hardcore hobbiest, who actively seeks one time encounters, to review them. I discourage that kind of guy actually, if I feel the caller is too 'checklist' oriented, I'll pass. The types of questions I am getting from the professional client are questions I don't have patience for, and I'm going to treat them like some sps treat the guys who don't read their ads or approach them in the right way. Some pro clients approach me in the way that I want to be approached. The ones who want to do things their own way, will be turned down.

[Guest]

I think this whole topic and many topics on cerb are about respect.

 

In regards to asking questions, I think most escorts give potential clients the benefit of the doubt, the client is new to this, it's his first time talking to me ect, ect. If I have done what I can to help this potential client out and they are still asking questions that are on my website; I look at this as disrespectful. Why is it disrespectful because I have taken the time to write a website, I've taken the time to direct you back to my website and now it's infringing on my time. If I have answered your questions by directing you to a website that is made to answer many or all of your questions and you still don't understand, I simply can't help you. The answers I will give you by pm/email are the same answers that are in my website. I would write the answers no differently in an email or pm.

 

In regards to booking appointments. An escort needs at lest a day, time and a phone number. I have written a whole guide on how to contact me in my blog. I still receive the are you available on Tuesday questions. That's fine I always give the benefit of the doubt in this situation too. I'll respond with give me the day and time your interested in, along with your number. I will then not respond to someone unless they give me all the information I need. Why, well the information on how to contact me is on my website, I've tried to help you and now it's wasting both of our time. I simply can't put time aside for clients if they don't give me the day and time they are interested in. Just giving me are you available Tuesday doesn't work, is it Tuesday morning, night, it's very unclear. I also don't feel bad about not answering emails that don't have all the information I need, once I tried to help the potential client because I have a warning about this behavior on my website.

 

It' s easy to avoid a lot of problems by just reading websites and ads. I know it sucks but when I'm going to buy something or I'm going somewhere I make sure to read. So I know what to expect, it really makes things easier.

 

Again all of the stuff written above is not about sending friendly emails/Pms.

 

I hope this explains some things to the newbies of this website. All of this stuff can be confusing but if you have the right attitude and you respect the escort of your choice, everything will be, just peachy, teehee.

[WriteOn 3250]

I'm going to respond to this respectful post, and I promise (last time I didn't promise) I will not respond to any other posts.

 

I just think there is a disconnect from what you think is going on versus what the sps are telling you is going on. You do have a lot of experience, which to me means you are not as familiar as we are with what the typical newbie is going to be doing or asking about.

 

I respectfully disagree. I don't know what it's like to be in business with a website full of information and have potential clients day after day ask the same stupid questions. I can try to imagine what it's like but I haven't lived through it. I have no doubt it is one of many issues SP's deal with.

 

 

The other issue seems to be that you don't want anyone, mostly sps, telling you any of that. And that is your issue. You can either become reactionary whenever anyone disagrees with you, or even just tries to explain their own POV and experiences, and LEARN from that, or you can continue to repeat your own points, to the exclusion of all others.

 

Again, I respectfully disagree.

 

I'm not going to get into the details of each post here but what started the anger towards me was I was defending a client's "stupid" question. All I was trying to say was there could be another reason other than pure stupidity or laziness as to why a client could ask certain questions. I tried to show a different side to the issue and that angered many people. If you are of the opinion there is only one side to this issue then you are entitled to your opinion, but so am I and taking a different side to an issue doesn't, imo, imply I am not able to listen or learn.

 

I didn't question it was an issue SP's deal with (along with many others). I don't know what it's like to do your job and I haven't claimed to.

 

I believe if you read the thread you will see I have not been disrespectful to members (unless you count disagreeing as disrespectful). I haven't taken personal attacks on members, I haven't posted mean spirited comments, period. I HAVE taken personal attacks, there is clear and obvious anger in posts directed at me and I have responded to these attacks.

 

I'm glad to have your post to respond to, no emotion, no anger, just valid points.

[Guest realnicehat]

WriteOn,

 

I'm going to try one more time to help you through this. Yes, help you. Not attack you or "pile on". I have not consulted the "popular kids", this is just me talking to you.

 

First, I agree with you, your posts have generated some anger but not for the reason you keep repeating. Your feeling is that because you took the position that potential clients shouldn't be victimized for asking stupid questions you are being personally attacked. What you aren't considering is how your conduct in these threads is being perceived.

 

I also fully agree with you that your first post is being taken out of context. I originally read it as you have explained it. You do not follow a rigid scripted format when you contact a provider for the first time. Your mention of respect does imply that you would try and follow the ladies stated rules however.

 

Your troubles started with your second post where while trying to support your position you directly challenged a provider on the accuracy of her website. The next post was essentially the same thing, restating your position and again challenging the lady about her website.

 

After another member stepped in and illustrated that the information was, in fact, available on said website you again restated your position, made a very defensive statement about going in circles defending your point in a previous thread???, and said you were done.

 

It was at this point that I asked you to simply consider the ladies side of things. Not to change your mind or position, just to try and empathize a little. Unfortunately, rather than try, you came back and not only restated your position but with phrases such as "shouldn't they want to" and "I think it is part of their job" showed the ladies how you think they should run their business.

 

Since then, a number of members (myself included) have tried to get you to consider another viewpoint. Again, not saying that you are wrong, but that there is another side. Your response to this has been a continuous flow of "you're right, I don't know what it is like to be a provider but what I'm saying is...." and then you again restate your position. This isn't a clear cut discussion of who is right or who is wrong. It isn't you versus the ladies or the popular kids.

 

At this point, I have to assume that you have become far too defensive to consider what I am saying but my hope is that perhaps in a few days you will read this and understand. Some of the ladies have agreed with your position, some haven't. Not one of them, however, were angered by that position. Your defensive behaviour, repetitive attempts to drive your sole point home, and flat out refusal to consider any viewpoint but you own is what has gotten us here.

 

I hope that in a few days, after a little distance from it, you will read the thread again from the beginning. My hope is that you will be able to see how some of your posts generated the reaction they did. I am in no way implying that you are the only guilty party. My point isn't that you acted poorly and that everyone else is right in "attacking" you. Again, I'm simply hoping you will be able to recognize how some of your posts generated the reaction that they did. If you are still unable to do so then you may have to consider that this board is not the place for you. I'm sure the last thing you want is to be the centre of controversy in every thread you participate in.

 

Having read all of this, if still your only thought is "I was only trying to say that there might be other reasons for someone to ask a stupid question and I was personally attacked", and you can't see that I am honestly trying to help you out, then the only suggestion I have left is a simple name change as "WriteOff" would be far more appropriate.

 

nlwoodchuck: I apologize for the hijack but I'm hoping we can learn a little about how not wasting the ladies time and how you conduct yourself on the board are both important factors in securing an appointment. Nothing but respect for the thread you have started :)

 

everyone else: Yes, I am exactly aware how full of shit I am ;)

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

Someone like Basil Fawlty could probably run your businesses for you for a small fee. He might enjoy dealing with bothersome questions from hobbyists. LOL

 

... Running for cover. :)

[cat 262460]

It would be fun to have Faulty on board for comic relief actually! The fact is I do run a business and I know I have to cater to guests somewhat. But when someone has rubbed me the wrong way enough to give me mental rug burns, it makes it exceedingly hard to have sexy time with them authentically. I'm pretty tolerant of newb questioners, tire kicking financially challenged inquirers reschedulers and high maintenance, constant ecomm guests. What is difficult for me is usually the timing. Murphy's law always sends these guys my way when my personal life is over demanding or things are stressful. This magnifies the annoying exponentially and at times I teeter on the fragile edge of ripping someone a new one. I always realize it's me that has the issue and I need to either ignore the request completely or send them a cut and paste response to ensure I don't cross a line. I can be quite cutting at times because I'm not fluent in sarcasm so I just drop an anvil on them when my edit button malfunctions and the damage is usually irreparable...

 

cat

[Guest webothscore]

It would be fun to have Faulty on board for comic relief actually! The fact is I do run a business and I know I have to cater to guests somewhat. But when someone has rubbed me the wrong way enough to give me mental rug burns, it makes it exceedingly hard to have sexy time with them authentically. I'm pretty tolerant of newb questioners, tire kicking financially challenged inquirers reschedulers and high maintenance, constant ecomm guests. What is difficult for me is usually the timing. Murphy's law always sends these guys my way when my personal life is over demanding or things are stressful. This magnifies the annoying exponentially and at times I teeter on the fragile edge of ripping someone a new one. I always realize it's me that has the issue and I need to either ignore the request completely or send them a cut and paste response to ensure I don't cross a line. I can be quite cutting at times because I'm not fluent in sarcasm so I just drop an anvil on them when my edit button malfunctions and the damage is usually irreparable...

 

cat

 

I think it's good of you to recognize these things. It's makes you more real, so please take that as a compliment. I only had one short post earlier in this thread because I felt it was enough. What gets my attention from other posts/threads is where some folks go to buy their horses. They sit so high off the ground! I have "hobbied" three times in six months, so expanding that makes 60 MP/SPs in ten years. I have time between my visits to tread at my own pace, so I can see how people interact with each other. The way I see it, if I increased that to once a month, I am buying somebody a vehicle instead of for myself! Yikes ;) kidding actually, that would not be a nice vehicle if the visits remain at one hour. Anyway, despite the slight awkwardness of some back and forth I have read, NLW started a good discussion, so good on him!

 

Additional comment.

Crap that reads like I don't have a vehicle. I should have written something else. To RNH, thank you for your horse. I love when people put a spotlight on themselves. It's how some comedians make tons of money ;) Actually you are not on a high horse (which is a good thing), but as far as being a white knight, oh yeah, you da man, and in small doses, many people love white knights.

[JoyfulC 132299]

To me, a time waster is someone who plays 20 questions about meeting but never or rarely books. Like the guy who writes/texts/phones me multiple times about meeting up when he's in the area, then, whoopsie, something comes up. It happens, for sure. But it also happens that there are people who get almost as much pleasure out of almost seeing an SP, with none of the risk or expense. Who knows why? But it's not just this. Over the years, I can't say how many times someone cornered me at a party to tell me about the time they _almost_ made a skydive.

 

To avoid being viewed as a time waster, don't contact until you're reasonably sure you can make it.

[Guest realnicehat]

To RNH, thank you for your horse. I love when people put a spotlight on themselves. It's how some comedians make tons of money ;) Actually you are not on a high horse (which is a good thing), but as far as being a white knight, oh yeah, you da man, and in small doses, many people love white knights.

 

A White Knight? Me? No....

 

I'm an Ivory Knight at best. Certainly there's a tinge of grey. I even tried being a "Cream Knight" for a while but for obvious reasons I got made fun of a lot. The other Knights can be so cruel.

 

Perhaps I'll tone it down a little. From here on out I'll try to be an Ecru Knight at best ;)

 

To be fair (if you check my last post) I even called myself on my own bullshit :)

[VedaSloan 119179]

Oh Hello Berlin and welcome to "Bashfest WriteOn" 2013. So you want to pile on? Ok.

 

 

 

Ok, you are running a business with a website full of information and still get a billion stupid questions?

 

What about this makes you angry with me, what I have said, specifically, that has made you angry at me?

 

Please, not the rules thing, that was clearly taken out of context, I wasn't suggesting a client not follow a SP's directions for an encounter. I was saying when I contact a provider I don't follow a script. I don't have a 3 message rule, etc.

 

Please not the joke thing, I'm sorry to you and all others it offended but it was a joke. To suggest any man takes pride in paying women for sex is ridiculous. I'm not proud of the fact that I pay women for sex and I'm not ashamed of it, I thought the absurdity of saying I've paid for more sex then most guys would be taken as self deprecating, it wasn't. I've never heard of a man bragging about paying for sex in my life.

 

So in the end, except for the fact I am clearly disliked, what is it that I've said that offended you Berlin? Why do you think such a personal,nasty attack by FilmGeek was warranted?

 

The fact that you've basically ignored or just completely missed the entire point of what everyone on the board's been saying to you.

 

And I don't dislike you, I don't even know you.

[LeeRichards 177238]

To me, a time waster is someone who plays 20 questions about meeting but never or rarely books. Like the guy who writes/texts/phones me multiple times about meeting up when he's in the area, then, whoopsie, something comes up. It happens, for sure. But it also happens that there are people who get almost as much pleasure out of almost seeing an SP, with none of the risk or expense. Who knows why? But it's not just this. Over the years, I can't say how many times someone cornered me at a party to tell me about the time they _almost_ made a skydive.

 

To avoid being viewed as a time waster, don't contact until you're reasonably sure you can make it.

 

 

 

TEXT YOU ! NEVAR ! What's your number sweetie ? Wait nevermind.... it is in your avatar there Christine ;)

 

I had to chuckle when I read that comment. I did and do text a lot....apparently randomly ? A time waster perhaps but I do show up eventually damnitt :)

 

I like to get to know a lady before I meet if possible and vice versa .... makes for a more chillaxed first meeting and follow up dates. I won't ask you if you give bbbj .... that's for you to know and for me to find out .... but I might ask you if you like Cheez Whiz ! My kinda girl ....

 

but I have had equally good experiences with ladies who keep communication to short and sweet bookings. Go with the gut....Less relaxed perhaps....nervous as fuck actually on first visits for me !! ha But once you meet it is smiles, laughs and shagging and stuff :) Life is good . VJ has discussed the language barrier here and the shorter correspondence. Just the way some gals do business too. Very common and understandable. I was nervous as fuck crossing that bridge to see her first time ! Now I bounce quickly over that bridge on my penis like a pogo stick !! haha ;)

 

Anyhooooooo I do respect your guidelines and parameters ladies .... this thread perhaps opened my eyes a tad bit as to how I operate moving forward.

 

Ramblings from Friendly Manitoba

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

To be perfectly honest, I am not feeling up to completely reading the entire thread but will do so eventually.

 

I do not mind, or I should say I encourage communications with someone who is genuinely interested in getting to know Me with the eventual goal of meeting. I further enjoy online conversations with those I have met.

 

I do not appreciate, I think Christine may have said this, people that waste my time playing the twenty questions game...everything they usually ask is available on my site!

 

The worst violators are the people who ask a bunch of (or even one) unnecessary question and then ever respond to your response. A no thank you (even a go fuck yourself) response is common courtesy.

 

Ya....in a bad mood! Lol

[jimmytatro 100]

I am a newbie, although I looked into things last year and somewhat lost interest when I learned some more about the industry. My interest has been once again renewed.

I have been contacted a few girls lately to make general inquiries about rates and what not, just to get the basic info to have for making a decision of how I would like to see based upon looks, rate and restriction.

I have generally found the SPs of Halifax very friendly and patient with my questions however some requests that were exceeded by every SP I talked with were reacted to with a lot of negativity from two SPs from NB I contacted, I requested a picture to use to add them as a contact so that I could remember who was who. Both refused and requested not to be added as a contact, one in particular even after I apologized and said that I would not add her as a contact as she requested and would not contact her anymore, sent me 4 more angry and vulgar texts. This was very unexpected by me as there is one SP from Halifax who has sent me many pictures and chats with me on a daily basis asking questions about life events I had mentioned previously in conversation.

 

This is the second Halifax SP that I have had great conversation with and it makes it very easy to decide where you wish to choose to spend your money and time with such a stark contrast.

 

I was totally surprised though in the difference in interactions between the girls I was in contact with from Halifax and the ones from Moncton. I guess everyone is an individual but it seemed like there was a difference in interaction etiquette.

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

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I have generally found the SPs of Halifax very friendly and patient with my questions however some requests that were exceeded by every SP I talked with were reacted to with a lot of negativity from two SPs from NB I contacted, I requested a picture to use to add them as a contact so that I could remember who was who. Both refused and requested not to be added as a contact, one in particular even after I apologized and said that I would not add her as a contact as she requested and would not contact her anymore, sent me 4 more angry and vulgar texts. This was very unexpected by me as there is one SP from Halifax who has sent me many pictures and chats with me on a daily basis asking questions about life events I had mentioned previously in conversation.

 

I do not know the exact circumstances that lead to the nasty texts but I can definitely tell you that when a lady has pictures available on her website and/or in her CERB albums that asking for more pictures is generally not a good idea; you can easily be perceived as a man who has no intentions of booking and is only collecting pictures. Yes, SP picture collectors are out there.

 

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I was totally surprised though in the difference in interactions between the girls I was in contact with from Halifax and the ones from Moncton. I guess everyone is an individual but it seemed like there was a difference in interaction etiquette.

You have to remember and understand that ladies are busy people too and have full lives (and sometimes other work too) outside of this lifestyle. Not every lady is able or willing to become a daily online pen pal with a possible future client.

[Guest realnicehat]

I am a newbie, although I looked into things last year and somewhat lost interest when I learned some more about the industry. My interest has been once again renewed.

I have been contacted a few girls lately to make general inquiries about rates and what not, just to get the basic info to have for making a decision of how I would like to see based upon looks, rate and restriction.

I have generally found the SPs of Halifax very friendly and patient with my questions however some requests that were exceeded by every SP I talked with were reacted to with a lot of negativity from two SPs from NB I contacted, I requested a picture to use to add them as a contact so that I could remember who was who. Both refused and requested not to be added as a contact, one in particular even after I apologized and said that I would not add her as a contact as she requested and would not contact her anymore, sent me 4 more angry and vulgar texts. This was very unexpected by me as there is one SP from Halifax who has sent me many pictures and chats with me on a daily basis asking questions about life events I had mentioned previously in conversation.

 

This is the second Halifax SP that I have had great conversation with and it makes it very easy to decide where you wish to choose to spend your money and time with such a stark contrast.

 

I was totally surprised though in the difference in interactions between the girls I was in contact with from Halifax and the ones from Moncton. I guess everyone is an individual but it seemed like there was a difference in interaction etiquette.

 

I'm curious Jimmy, have you read the rest of this thread? Some of the things that you have done would be considered by some (clearly not all) as pretty "time wastey".

 

You've contacted these ladies, taken up some of their valuable time, and when you were finished you essentially said "thanks, but I'm not done shopping yet". At that point, suggesting that you wish to add them as a contact, and would like a pic so that you can keep track of "who is who" could be perceived as a slap in the face to some.

 

Providers are very aware of how this business operates. They know there is a lot of competition out there, they are aware that guys spend a lot of time trying to make decisions. You are welcome to contact them for any info you may need in order to make your decision but I feel like making them aware that you are still narrowing things down is kind of in bad form. If you must ask questions a simple "thank you for your time, I hope to be in touch" is considerably more tactful than "can I have a pic so I can remember which one you are".

 

Perhaps it's a generational thing but I also find the idea of adding them as a contact (with a pic?) a little odd, especially if you haven't met them yet. As Gabby said, many of them don't have near enough time to be chat buddies.

 

I'm sorry if this reads as a little harsh, it wasn't my intent. I went back and had a look at your posts from earlier this year where some members helped you out with some pretty big misconceptions you had of the industry. You're very young to be entering this hobby and I think there is a lot here that will help you if you take the time to read it.

 

At any rate, I do hope you find what you are looking for,

 

RNH

[jimmytatro 100]

I'm curious Jimmy, have you read the rest of this thread? Some of the things that you have done would be considered by some (clearly not all) as pretty "time wastey".

 

You've contacted these ladies, taken up some of their valuable time, and when you were finished you essentially said "thanks, but I'm not done shopping yet". At that point, suggesting that you wish to add them as a contact, and would like a pic so that you can keep track of "who is who" could be perceived as a slap in the face to some.

 

Providers are very aware of how this business operates. They know there is a lot of competition out there, they are aware that guys spend a lot of time trying to make decisions. You are welcome to contact them for any info you may need in order to make your decision but I feel like making them aware that you are still narrowing things down is kind of in bad form. If you must ask questions a simple "thank you for your time, I hope to be in touch" is considerably more tactful than "can I have a pic so I can remember which one you are".

 

Perhaps it's a generational thing but I also find the idea of adding them as a contact (with a pic?) a little odd, especially if you haven't met them yet. As Gabby said, many of them don't have near enough time to be chat buddies.

 

I'm sorry if this reads as a little harsh, it wasn't my intent. I went back and had a look at your posts from earlier this year where some members helped you out with some pretty big misconceptions you had of the industry. You're very young to be entering this hobby and I think there is a lot here that will help you if you take the time to read it.

 

At any rate, I do hope you find what you are looking for,

 

RNH

 

Honestly for most of the providers I have kept it to the minimum amount of messages to get the basic info that wasn't provided in the ad, as I have yet to become a client I guess I am still a time waster (one of the bad guys described in this thread) but have only went beyond the basic info gather with a couple SPs some of who sent me pics a few hours after talking and send me a message every once in a while to chat... I don't expect this I was just saying it has made me feel a lot more comfortable about meeting up with these girls and I know this is also another industry "no no" but both of the SPs that I have had such extended convos with I have thought "man I wish I had met with this girl in real life at a bar or something, outside of this context" as they seem dateable (might be important to note that I am younger than or of similar age to most of the SPs).

 

I didn't consider the whole "slap in the face" thing that may explain what happened as like I said before I immediately apologized, thanked her for her time and said ok basically when she said she wouldn't be sharing a picture. And she then sent another response which I followed with another apology and that I wouldn't contact her anymore, which afterwards I received 3 angry messages to in reply which I didn't reply because at that point I didn't really know what else to do.

 

I didn't really consider that it would have been offensive that I was openly shopping around but I would like to keep track of girls I am interested in seeing and do my research on them. A lot of the girls I have been in contact with from BP don't seem to have any info on here, good or bad. That and I have been searching for someone who does Greek which I have found a few, rates also seem to vary by almost $100 from girl to girl so that is another thing I consider. Although I have the expendable income to be involved in this if I can't pick between two girls that offer the same services and I find equally attractive I may go for the slightly cheaper one (against the whole, get what you pay for thing I know).

 

This board has been super helpful though, I feel like I would have ended up kidnapped in some sort of overzealous bait and switch without some of the info I have learned here.

[VictoriaJolie 64127]

[quote name=jimmytatro;h I have thought "man I wish I had met with this girl in real life at a bar or something' date=' outside of this context" as they seem dateable (might be important to note that I am younger than or of similar age to most of the SPs).

 

I didn't consider the whole "slap in the face" thing that may explain what happened as like I said before I immediately apologized, thanked her for her time

 

I didn't really consider that it would have been offensive that I was openly shopping around but I would like to keep track of girls I am interested in seeing and do my research on them.

This board has been super helpful though, I feel like I would have ended up kidnapped in some sort of overzealous bait and switch without some of the info I have learned here.[/quote]

 

First jimmy tatro I am also glad you find this board...Welcome!

 

Second I got to say..I was shaking my head at the reference of your age been close to sps not like other...you do realize this isn't plenty of fish right?

 

 

To remember which girls you contacted I am sure that you can copy one of their pictures on their portfolio

 

 

You didn't realize that openly shopping could be a slap on the face so we are like car..were you can kick the tire

 

But you don't like think about paying and an escort reason you leaned toward the one that was Very friendly to the point you wish you could have met them in a bar

 

Wow this is a full bag of chips isn't it?

 

Realize that it is a business transaction involving intimacy....fragile and delicate on both sides

 

If you don't wish to be treat like a dollars sign..you need to treat the lady as a lady not a product

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If you don't wish to be treat like a dollars sign..you need to treat the lady as a lady not a product

 

This comment from Victoria, priceless. Everything else you use master card. Oh, sorry, good point!

[JoyfulC 132299]

TEXT YOU ! NEVAR ! What's your number sweetie ? Wait nevermind.... it is in your avatar there Christine ;)

 

Busted! I'm so lazy about advertising. (That number doesn't take text messages, though. The NSA might get them, but I don't. They just go off in space.)

 

I had to chuckle when I read that comment. I did and do text a lot....apparently randomly ? A time waster perhaps but I do show up eventually damnitt :)

 

I like to get to know a lady before I meet if possible and vice versa .... makes for a more chillaxed first meeting and follow up dates. I won't ask you if you give bbbj .... that's for you to know and for me to find out .... but I might ask you if you like Cheez Whiz ! My kinda girl ....[/Quote]

 

That's okay, I think, as long as you are genuine WRT what the communication is about. Over the years, I've made many good friends on the boards whom I'll never meet professionally. Sometimes we communicate through the board; other times through email or social networking. Sometimes they sit at my table and bang their fists, arguing foreign policy or domestic economics while I dish out a second helping of lunch. But they never try to get my attention by acting as though they're trying to set up an appointment. That's the difference.

 

nervous as fuck actually on first visits for me !! ha But once you meet it is smiles, laughs and shagging and stuff :) Life is good .

 

Yep! Me too. You'd think I'd be less nervous, but on first encounters, even after all these years, I'm a basket case. But by the end of the session, I'm relaxed. (And usually ready for a nap!)

 

! Now I bounce quickly over that bridge on my penis like a pogo stick !! haha ;)

 

Oh, the visuals!

 

Anyhooooooo I do respect your guidelines 21and parameters ladies .... this thread perhaps opened my eyes a tad bit as to how I operate moving forward.

 

Ramblings from Friendly Manitoba

 

I think maybe you shouldn't take it personally. I didn't mean that you should never initiate any exchange with an SP unless and until you're ready to book. Just be genuine. If you're just passing time or looking to get to know someone better, don't act like you're trying to set up an appointment that you probably wont keep keep. You wouldn't believe how many guys do that. But then, I suspect, that's not your style.

 

(Cheez Whiz? No. ... NO.)