session without sex

[pjrd 324]

I went to one of the MP`s awhile back in the summer I think. I booked a one hour session with one of my favorite ladies in the hot tub. We started talking about this and that and just hung out and chatted for the whole session till the knock on the door came. Now I`m kind of a horndog and love my sex but this was something different for me. I had a wonderful time with her and the sex didn`t matter. I didn`t have a problem with the tip and we both left happy. I`m wondering if this is a common thing that happens in this hobby. This is the first time that I`ve done that. is it because I`m getting old or maybe I`m just lonely. I`m not complaining but am curious as to how many others have done the same thing. I think maybe there`s more to being a service provider than sex. Cool

PJ

[lil.ms.summers 122]

I as an Sp have had that happen a number of times, with repeats after. I think it has to do with the connection you both have..its always nice, on both behalfs, to relax once in a while. Like you said there is more to sp then just sex, and you have proven that :)

Im sure you both walked away relaxed & content.

The next time you encounter this lady (if be) it will be more comfortable & open, the connection is already there :)

You are definately not alone on this one ...:)

[E.D. man 691]

I had a session like that awhile back, we ust talked on the bed did some spooning and kissing.

I think sometimes a good hug is better than sex and its just the companionship you need!!!:D:D

[slurp 7020]

It's happened once or twice where we got talking and forgot the time. We more than made it for it next visit ...... :mrgreen:

 

But more in line with your post, there are some that I've gotten close with that we spend a lot of time catching up if we haven't seen for a while. Sex takes a back seat to our friendship and there's nothing wrong with that. In the end things always even out .... we'll spend times with little talk and all action!

[MrFun1 100]

The first time I met a particular sp back in late August, we wound up sitting on her couch talking for four solid hours. Not a stitch of clothing came off. A hand on the knee was as intimate as things got. We just hit it off and couldn't shut up. lol It was a great time. We've since become very good friends. A most unusual experience, to be sure, but a really wonderful one.

[cat 262460]

This is why I only book 2 hour appointments. I love my couch time AND my play time with my guests. I have always found that great couch time leads to great playtime because of the connection you establish. I have guests that I could easily spend hours with and not notice time passing. I have had guests who come in specifically to talk. Sometimes a friend with an ear is far more important to someone than playtime. When it's good, it's just good and I don't try to analyze why. I just enjoy what is. It all depends on the mood...

 

cat

[Kubrickfan 12836]

I agree completely ... although I have never had an encounter-free session, the conversations I have, and the intimacy and the comfortableness that those conversations can help create, definitely make for a better overall experience for me and the lady involved. Not to mention the simple enjoyment of an exchange of ideas with an interesting, intelligent person. Sure they not always that way, but I'll never consider it a postitive experience unless there is some sort of level of understanding.

 

When I am in Ottawa visiting, it can be terribly lonely outside of work ... you go into that hotel room, and the door closes, and its very quiet, and you dont know a soul. And good conversation makes all the difference. Examples of ladies I have seen in Ottawa that seem to sincerely enjoy the conversation include Trish and most recently Kayla (OPG), Annessa, Charlotte (FKS), Sydney Lacroix and Cameron. But in an hour session, it is rushed.

 

That being said, a suggestion: Possibly the ladies can suggest that sort of session ... for instance, half conversation and half intimate time ... at a reduced rate. It could even be combined with a quick meal/lunch/roomservice (paid for be the client, of course). Especially in the market right now, and at least with clients the ladies can trust to keep to the bargain, this might be a win-win.

[Emma Alexandra 123366]

I think maybe there`s more to being a service provider than sex. Cool

PJ

 

That's excatly what i have been saying all along....there is alot more to this biz then sex... a good EP or Sp will listen to you,comfort you,talk with you,relax with you,will be your confindant/friend ,she nerver judges ..and we make love not just a sex act and you can feel the difference betwen the 2.:wink:

 

Kisses,

Emma

[etasman2000 15994]

That being said, a suggestion: Possibly the ladies can suggest that sort of session ... for instance, half conversation and half intimate time ... at a reduced rate. It could even be combined with a quick meal/lunch/roomservice (paid for be the client, of course).

 

A number of ladies do offer this, usually marked on their Websites as 'Dinner Date'.

 

For those without one just ask, many of our beautiful ladies here are very accommodating to that request.

 

Also do inquire the lady's food preferences and dietary restrictions before picking a restaurant.

[etasman2000 15994]

That's excatly what i have been saying all along....there is alot more to this biz then sex... a good EP or Sp will listen to you,comfort you,talk with you,relax with you,will be your confindant/friend

 

you forgot to add 'scare the living daylights out of you with a monkey' :shock:

[YoungStud 468]

That's excatly what i have been saying all along....there is alot more to this biz then sex... a good EP or Sp will listen to you,comfort you,talk with you,relax with you,will be your confindant/friend ,she nerver judges ..and we make love not just a sex act and you can feel the difference betwen the 2.:wink:

 

Kisses,

Emma

 

With an LTR/Fav, it could be a meal, shopping, a walk, a event (movie, concert, museum visit etc.) either with sex before or after (or both - lol) or no sex. It's all worked for me, but only with a limited number of EPs. The mutual chemistry has to be there. And then it's all good.

[Guest S***e]

In recent years, I've very much adopted the "go with the flow" attitude in that sometimes things lead to a wonderful physical encounter and sometimes things lead to a wonderful intellectual or emotional or humerous encounter or all of the foregoing. There are some SPs who can read me very well and are able to take a leadership role from it. I am a very quiet, polite and easy going type of person who enjoys moments of mutual kindness and warm affection. Sex is, to me, very much more secondary in all this nowadays whereas in my youth, e.g. when I was in my 30s or even my 40s, sex was more in the forefront of my thinking. We all change constantly and I also strive to bear in mind the current mindset, feelings and physical needs of the lady I am luck enough to be with at that moment (empathy).

 

Happy holidays.

[Emma Alexandra 123366]

With an LTR/Fav, it could be a meal, shopping, a walk, a event (movie, concert, museum visit etc.) either with sex before or after (or both - lol) or no sex. It's all worked for me, but only with a limited number of EPs. The mutual chemistry has to be there. And then it's all good.

 

Yes it can be much more fun with the right chemistry...i've been on may dinner dates. I have also been to museums,movies,concerts,shopping and even just walking in the park ...it's all so much better with the right chemistry...

[pjrd 324]

well this is all very interesting. maybe that`s why I`m left with the feeling that something is missing when I have a half hour session start to finish with hot sex and no time for much conversation. I`m not saying the session wasn`t great but left me wanting something more. I do book one hour sessions mostly and it`s a bit better. I`ve never gone for dates with service providers because I don`t think I could afford to pay for three or four hours of a lady`s time. Wish I could but I`m just not wealthy. I think I`ll save up a bit and skip the odd session and then book a few hours with someone.

[pjrd 324]

well this is all very interesting. maybe that`s why I`m left with the feeling that something is missing when I have a half hour session start to finish with hot sex and no time for much conversation. I`m not saying the session wasn`t great but left me wanting something more. I do book one hour sessions mostly and it`s a bit better. I`ve never gone for dates with service providers because I don`t think I could afford to pay for three or four hours of a lady`s time. Wish I could but I`m just not wealthy. I think I`ll save up a bit and skip the odd session and then book a few hours with someone.

it just occured to me that I do have a few lady friends that I visit for conversation and no sex, that`s why I come to you gals in the first place. I guess it would be nice to have it all in one place but then I`d hafta marry one of you. lol just kidding

so the few hours I`m talking about above would have to include some sex, wouldn`t it? I do find it easier to talk to service providers about sex and other personal things than my lady friends. (always worried about them wanting to start a relationship):handjob:

[Guest S***e]

This is one of the reasons why I empasize quality over quantity. I would rather set aside enough for a longer encounter with someone to whom I very much partial for more than just sex and enjoy all the nice things that happen to transpire between us.

 

 

well this is all very interesting. maybe that`s why I`m left with the feeling that something is missing when I have a half hour session start to finish with hot sex and no time for much conversation. I`m not saying the session wasn`t great but left me wanting something more. I do book one hour sessions mostly and it`s a bit better. I`ve never gone for dates with service providers because I don`t think I could afford to pay for three or four hours of a lady`s time. Wish I could but I`m just not wealthy. I think I`ll save up a bit and skip the odd session and then book a few hours with someone.

[buggernot 588]

I've had a few sessions where there was technically no sex, but that was a result of my not being able to, ummm...perform. And some others where the sex got in the way of conversation, so it ended up being rushed and I wished there was more time.

 

But for me personally - and this is my thought process only - I would not ever cough up money for strictly social time. If I meet someone where we get along real well, enjoy each other's company, and mutually wish to hang out socially, for me to pay for that would be unsavoury. I don't mind paying for sex, but paying for 'friends' is a different matter for my psyche.

[etasman2000 15994]

But for me personally - and this is my thought process only - I would not ever cough up money for strictly social time.

 

To your point I will tell you my reply to someone whom had requested I *not* compensate her for our social time, "You are very busy and every hour you spend with me is one hour away from work, consider this a gift from a friend to a friend."

 

I also have had several dinners/lunches which were strictly off the books as it were. Any mention of compensation for these would have insulted them.

 

In summary it isn't as much as coughing up money as much as respecting the individual's time and personality. Go in with the attitude that you should compensate them and you will always be appreciated (and pleasantly surprised).

[buggernot 588]

In summary it isn't as much as coughing up money as much as respecting the individual's time and personality. Go in with the attitude that you should compensate them and you will always be appreciated (and pleasantly surprised).

 

Hate to sound arrogant, but my time and personality is worth something too.

 

It is no different for me than doing business with anyone. The guy that fixes my car, the girl that cuts my hair, the RMT that gets the other kinks out - if there's a good, friendly connection there and a mutual desire to hang out and chat outside of a professional environment, it would be ridiculous for me to compensate them for their time. And I view this as the same situation.

 

I have no desire to make friends with someone who does not want to reciprocate. And honestly, when those occasions do arise, the last thing I am thinking about - or hoping for - is a 'pleasant surprise'. No currency on the table...not money and not sex. Two people wanting to spend time with one another with no expectations other than casually enjoying themselves.

 

But like I said before, this is my own personal way of thinking - what anyone else does is their business and that's cool too. And I rarely initiate going down that path, only if it seems obvious that it was wanted in the first place.

[dirkgently 1778]

I'm surprised no one else picked up on this, but what the hell is the deal with etasman and the monkey?:confused:

[buggernot 588]

I'm surprised no one else picked up on this, but what the hell is the deal with etasman and the monkey?:confused:

 

Inside joke - Emma has a device called a monkey rocker

[YoungStud 468]

I don't mind paying for sex, but paying for 'friends' is a different matter for my psyche.

 

I agree. I never pay for someone to be a friend. But from time to time in this hobby, we may become friends with someone who works in the industry. And decide to spend time with her in different ways. How that's compensated can vary a lot from person to person. Money per occasion, a regular "retainer", gifts, shopping, paying bills, sometimes none of the above, depending on the occasion and circumstances. For example, I've had a LTR/Fav take me out on a social date and pay for both of us.

 

But it's always good to remember what she does for a living and that time spent with you is time that could be spent as "billable hours" with a client. And to be a good friend in that regard.

 

As you say, it's different for everybody. I would never, however, characterize someone spending social time with an escort as "unsavoury".

[pjrd 324]

I went to one of the MP`s awhile back in the summer I think. I booked a one hour session with one of my favorite ladies in the hot tub. We started talking about this and that and just hung out and chatted for the whole session till the knock on the door came. Now I`m kind of a horndog and love my sex but this was something different for me. I had a wonderful time with her and the sex didn`t matter. I didn`t have a problem with the tip and we both left happy. I`m wondering if this is a common thing that happens in this hobby. This is the first time that I`ve done that. is it because I`m getting old or maybe I`m just lonely. I`m not complaining but am curious as to how many others have done the same thing. I think maybe there`s more to being a service provider than sex. Cool

PJ

 

ya, I can see this sort of thing just happening now, but to actually go out and seek a time with a lady that doesn`t involve being intimate or haveing sex, and paying for it just seems sad to me. As I`ve said before, I have friends that I can see without paying for their company.

Maybe if you`re away in a strange city and don`t have friends there and all alone in a hotel room it can be an option but I think I`d still like a bit of action.:motion:

PJ

[fortunateone 156618]

 

But it's always good to remember what she does for a living and that time spent with you is time that could be spent as "billable hours" with a client. And to be a good friend in that regard.

 

As you say, it's different for everybody. I would never, however, characterize someone spending social time with an escort as "unsavoury".

 

This is a great attitude. If an sp provides dinner dates she has social rates, and they are also in place to help reduce or eliminate line blurring. If a client is in search of more social time, she will work out an option that benefits both. It is rarely double the GFE hour rate, but a much lower consideration per hour with the understanding that that time is sociable, like with dinner or lunch. That is, after all, her occupation.

 

These are attractive women. A lot of guys, client or not, are asking them out. It is not as though she is lacking in friends or personal social contacts. If a client asks her out without acknowledging she does have a social rate for "dates" he puts her in the awkward position of either bringing it up herself, turning him down, or going anyway under pressure of not wanting to appear to be allaboutthemoney.. Once it is dealt with, she is free to go or not go, charge or not charge, at her discretion.

 

A lot of guys spend more than an hour with sps, 3,4 or 5 hour session appts are not all that unusual. They are not paying her to be their friend, they are paying her to be their companion.

[Guest S***e]

To put it succinctly, I do not sleep with my friends, but I do sleep with my (SP) companions. I do not pay my friends to be friends, but I do pay my (SP) companions to be companions.