Multiple Hours versus SSOG

[dunkinsailor 1220]

had my second experience with an sp lately (found her on cerb), with an original booking for a few hours which changed to a one-hour encounter before the actual date. The service was listed as gfe, but msog wasn't specified.

 

About 40 min into the session, I had some precum, which she interpreted as my final release (don't get me started on that issue), and told me a session only included one release, and that we were done. Ok, my bad, I shoulda dblchecked if MSOG was part of her services.

 

Thinking about it after, it occurred to me. Aren't multiple hour rates and SSOG policies like an irresistable force and an immovable object; for all intensive purposes, a multi-hour session with a single shot is next to impossible for most mortal men, unless the main sexual stimulation is saved for the tail end?

 

This might have been covered in another thread. But as a fairly new member of this hobby, I almost paid out a bunch of extra $$$ for extra hours that I would have never been able to use. Lesson learned, but I wonder how many other newbies are caught in this near-paradox?

[Soleil Sublime 38108]

I encourage MSOG, whether it be in an hour session, or multiple hour session. Most men know if it's a possibility in an hour, but 2 or more hours should have the SP doing all she can to try and allow a second release. You disagree? I think those who say SSOG are the ones who are trying to get you in and out as soon as possible. So the session is likely to begin quickly, and sadly often end within 15-20 minutes. That's not an hour! So play with him, talk to him, kiss him, cuddle him, cuz honey, he paid good money, so do a little work for it!

[Guest Ou**or**n]

Sad to hear. It sounds very unprofessional on the her part. Chalk this one up to experience and move on. There are many great ladies out there.

[etasman2000 15994]

Thinking about it after, it occurred to me. Aren't multiple hour rates and SSOG policies like an irresistable force and an immovable object; for all intensive purposes, a multi-hour session with a single shot is next to impossible for most mortal men, unless the main sexual stimulation is saved for the tail end?

 

The interpretation I was lead to believe was SSOG per hour.

[Emma Alexandra 123366]

that's why i think there are different levels of ladies...there is one that offer ssog and or have menus..i wouldn't call these ladies escorts...then there are escorts or as i would rather be called a companion...where we offer not only msog but so much more then the wam bam thing...i hate the wam bam thing...most of the gents i see book 2 or more hrs and belive me they leave happy...lmao...because i'm not counting...

[dunkinsailor 1220]

The interpretation I was lead to believe was SSOG per hour.

 

Ahh, that would make some sense.

 

...i hate the wam bam thing...

Soooo do I emma. But this wasn't even that - it was more tug-bam. And the bam didn't even have the "a" and the "m":)

 

Believe u me, I'm now firmly in the camp of only considering sp's who truly have a trustworthy record and love what they do - my "trial and error" piggy bank is broke. I smashed it to smithereens.

[Emma Alexandra 123366]

Ahh, that would make some sense.

 

 

Soooo do I emma. But this wasn't even that - it was more tug-bam. And the bam didn't even have the "a" and the "m":)

 

Believe u me, I'm now firmly in the camp of only considering sp's who truly have a trustworthy record and love what they do - my "trial and error" piggy bank is broke. I smashed it to smithereens.

 

lmao that's funny..no A...hahaha

[capitalman 3861]

She sucks, pun intended.:sm185:

[Guest S******s*m]

It's called - buyer beware - had an encounter where an SP just was trying to get the "B" - get the connection 1st before multi-hours - it's hit and miss otherwise... unless you have a lot of positive feedback. Gotta love CERB! I learned my lesson.

[JoyfulC 132299]

If all is as said, then yes, the SP needs to realize that while she may make it "easier" on herself for that one hour, in the long run, she lost a chance at repeat business -- and really, that should always be the goal we work toward. As calculating as this may come off sounding, we put together our ads, our pics, our videos to get them in the door the first time. But it's what we do in the session that brings them back for the next. This lady seems to be missing half the equation.

 

(But we haven't heard her side of it either, and I've been burned before, so I'm not sitting in judgment.)

 

MS isn't everybody's style. I have one friend who can pull off 2 and sometimes even 3 in a half hour -- and take two showers during that time, and never goes minute over! (Yep, we're BUSY.) And then I have friends who will book several hours and enjoy most of the time teasing and pleasing each other, and who are happy with one single (if particularly explosive) shot before we wrap it up.

 

While there are no hard & fast rules, I think MS is more the thing for younger, less sexually experienced guys. Mature, seasoned guys who have had not only plenty of sex, but a breadth of experience over the years, seem to relish the journey as much or more than the arrival at destination.

 

Or to use the skating rink terminology, while the younger guys are stick handling and shooting goals, the more sexually seasoned guys are doing Ice Capades. ;)

[Andee 220524]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can go around the world as many times as the ship can sail in the time you're with me. Call it MSOG, or whatever, like who's counting? We're there to have fun and please. To limit someone's shots on goals is limiting one's chance for repeat business as has been suggested here.

[fortunateone 156618]

Altho msog is often asked about, in my experience it is rarely actually accomplished. It seems to be one of those things that a client reads about (maybe in a review, maybe sees it advertised) and thinks he should have one too, regardless whether hei sphysically capable. And, while msog is probably doable by about 10% of guys within a half hour recovery time, chances are very good it ain't gonna happen. In 2 hours, it should be doable, but again no guarantee.

 

Many guys are asking that the sp guarantee msog, whether they themselves are capable of it, and that is why you may see a number of sps who simply don't offer it, don't offer it in the hour (or under)) appts, or charge extra for it. The extra is related to the chance that the 2nd is not going to happen, but she will end up having to deal with an unhappy client, or he will insist on her continuing over the previously agreed up time until he does manage to get that 2nd one off.

 

MSOG I caution should be for clients who KNOW for sure that they can do it, within the agreed and paid for time frame. And if it is your first visit to an sp, keep in mind she is going to be skeptical lol.

 

In the OPs case, he indicated this was an hour session. After 40 minutes, did he really think that he was going to cum then and then she would assume he could do it again with only 10-15 minutes left?

(I get that it wasn't a cum but still, it is not enough time to recover, start again, and cum again, especially for someone who took 40 minutes with the first one).

 

If I have a visitor that wants an msog, the first one is done right at the beginning, allowing the maximum amount of time possible to recover, start again and cum again within his chosen session. As mentioned above, the journey is far more important in many cases than to just shoot out as many times as possible. That is not exactly how I would enjoy spending my time, and to prolong the anticipation, spend more time in the preparation and to maintain a state of arousal for 30-40 minutes with one bigger bang at the end is far more appealing.

 

The msog all action with limited erotic and sensual stimulation does not sound like as much fun lol.

[TracieGold 282]

Dear sailor, you were ripped off.....this is very sad not only because you paid a whole hour, but also because this teaches to advertise properly on the part of te SP and to ask questions on the Client side....you were too nice....I have my regulars and I always include multiple shots, my clock is usually turned off towards the wall (unless I stupidly forgot, because it takes so much to prepare the place for you guys...)You should have asked for your money back. That is not a professional but someone hungry for the dough with no consideration for the client who is paying for a service.

I am so sad to hear this. I had clients who told me stories quite similar and I always encourage them to "ask questions" before the appointment, get them in writing and get the answer in writing. If tings do not come to be what you asked for or what you were offered..... hold into your money, no matter what.

This is a service with "connotations"; the gentlemen in general have expectations of their fantasies to come through with the lady they booked, to find out, with regret some unfortunate episodes.....either their safety being at risk or some exploiting tint.

I have written threads about the safety of us, ladies, but I think someone has to come with the safety for the gentlemen, not only in the sense of multiple shots, but also about all the "rarities found wile visiting with someone".

Please do so for everyone. The professional ladies (like Emma and Amelia in Halifax) will never ever dream about doing that....here in Ottawa we ave remarkable providers who are the top of the cream in service and would be asamed of offering such a scam.

Sailor, encourage the men to talk about this and I am really sorry about your occurrence

Tracie G.:-(:-?:mad:

Do not get the kleenexes Antler, rather let's talk seriously about what you gentlemen fear and had experienced in the past.

[jman47 233]

MS isn't everybody's style. I have one friend who can pull off 2 and sometimes even 3 in a half hour -- and take two showers during that time, and never goes minute over! (Yep, we're BUSY.) And then I have friends who will book several hours and enjoy most of the time teasing and pleasing each other, and who are happy with one single (if particularly explosive) shot before we wrap it up.

 

While there are no hard & fast rules, I think MS is more the thing for younger, less sexually experienced guys. Mature, seasoned guys who have had not only plenty of sex, but a breadth of experience over the years, seem to relish the journey as much or more than the arrival at destination.

 

Or to use the skating rink terminology, while the younger guys are stick handling and shooting goals, the more sexually seasoned guys are doing Ice Capades. ;)

 

Hello JoyfulC,

I really liked your skating analogy here:sm185:. And you are absolutely right. When I was younger, it was all about shots on goal.:handjob:

Now, the journey to the destination and finishing with a bang having the magnitude of 3+ shots is MUCH better...:jackoff:

 

sailor,

To the original question you posted...I agree with those who replied that you were ripped off. But even at that point if you complain the moment is ruined and what was left. Sorry to hear about the bad experience and better luck next time.

 

Have fun,

 

jman47

[dunkinsailor 1220]

wow. I really appreciate all the comments and feedback.

 

Lemme see if I can catch up.

 

JoyfulC:

yup, definitely no repeat businesses from me. I tried to frame the post to focus on the SSOG/multi-hour question as a whole, more than whether I was ok with this experience. The reason I mentioned the precum was that usually happens when my body starts shifting into 3rd, and if I coast for about 5 mins after to catch my breath, getting to the fireworks doesn't usually take much longer. So if ANY "wet signs of happiness" means I've had my SSOG with sps who have the SSOG policy, then there are a lot more newbies like me that are going to have some rude awakenings. As it is, I tried to explain the sequence to her, but just "having to have" that discussion pretty well kicked the turtle back into the shell.

 

fortunateone:

Couldn't help thinking these guys need to remember hockey rules: you can take a many shots as you want in a 60 minute game, but you don't get to go into overtime just cause you wanna.

 

Tracie:

awwwww, now you're making my eyes do MSOG. Seriously, I agree it would be REALLY helpful to newbies if maybe we could set up something like a "big brother" (or sister) thingee during the training wheels stage.

 

........................

 

Many thanks to all those above, and emma, angela, and the guys for your feedback.

 

For me, common sense is: if I have an explosion, I'm happy - small or large one (But at least the real release, not the prelub part). The sp I visited some days after was a sweetheart, and even tho I didn't have ANY release with her, it wasn't anything she did "wrong" - I was just more focussed on the sensual parts of our date, and time ran out.

 

I'm a fan of multi-hour dates because of this, even tho I haven't had an extended one yet. If I have one top-of-the-mountain rapture, and a lot of skin touching, cuddling, kissing during the time, I'm a VERY happy camper.

 

Maybe sometime in the future, cerb or another well-respected site will set up stuff like the following:

- a "TrustVerified" membership (for both hobbiests and sps), that has codified standards the member agrees to uphold as part of membership.

- a rating system that has a positive spin (friend types such as: (in ascending order) recent, solid, exceptional, dear-to-my-heart, etc. - that would give newbies insight into just how well-liked/respected a provider is, and also give sps insight into the same about new clients.

 

Now I'm rambling. It just sucks for a few fleeting moments here and there to be a newbie. You can bet your buns I'm going to give a lot of thought to what I need to do to make my next time the "one I'll always remember". Like your first real kiss.

[JoyfulC 132299]

The reason I mentioned the precum was that usually happens when my body starts shifting into 3rd, and if I coast for about 5 mins after to catch my breath, getting to the fireworks doesn't usually take much longer. So if ANY "wet signs of happiness" means I've had my SSOG with sps who have the SSOG policy, then there are a lot more newbies like me that are going to have some rude awakenings.

 

Okay, the thing is, your situation can be confusing for even the most experienced providers. I realize this is not your fault -- as Jessica Rabbit might say, it's just how you're drawn. But please appreciate, as you go forward, that this can present confusing circumstances for your SP. It is unusual (... and I'm speaking from more than 3 decades experience here).

 

I'm a fan of multi-hour dates because of this, even tho I haven't had an extended one yet. If I have one top-of-the-mountain rapture, and a lot of skin touching, cuddling, kissing during the time, I'm a VERY happy camper.

 

Perhaps you need need to get to know someone well enough that you can discuss this with her. You do have an unusual situation, and it may not be entirely reasonable to expect someone unfamiliar with it to respond appropriately.

 

Maybe sometime in the future, cerb or another well-respected site will set up stuff like the following:

- a "TrustVerified" membership (for both hobbiests and sps), that has codified standards the member agrees to uphold as part of membership.

- a rating system that has a positive spin (friend types such as: (in ascending order) recent, solid, exceptional, dear-to-my-heart, etc. - that would give newbies insight into just how well-liked/respected a provider is, and also give sps insight into the same about new clients.

 

Now I'm rambling.

 

Yep, you sure are. ;) I think that's expecting way too much of a review/recommendation site. Some things you really have to find on your own -- kinda like the Holy Grail. But the good news is that while it can be challenging, it's also an adventure. Like they say here in Ontario, it's YOURS TO DISCOVER.

 

Best of luck!

[AttilaTheHun 356]

Sailor, I believe that you probably know your body and how it reacts better than anyone. If you decide to back and spend time with a companion, I think you should ask for what you want. If you think you can cum twice in an hour then you know how it longs it will take you to get ready for shot # 2. The fact that you misread SSOG, well I always say that you have to do your homework and read the fine print.

 

If it you makes you feel better, I once had made a deal with 2 Streetwalkers (I know I was very young 22yrs old), took them to my room thinking that I would finally fufill my fantasy and get 2 chicks at the same time. Well $400 back later (btw that was 30 years ago) they basically ripped my pants off and devoured me. Well I lasted all of 5 minutes. They got up, got dressed and left. On the way out I was telling them I thought thew session was for an hour, they responded "well you didn't last an hour honey. See ya". What was I to do call the cops. I learned a valuable lesson.

 

ATH

[dunkinsailor 1220]

I may have created a misconception about my physiology. The type of thing explained in the wiki article http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_pre-cum is what happened to me, which seems the norm. In my case, I don't find I need a "short rest" after if I'm thoroughly aroused mind. body, soul - the rest period it happens more when I've reached that point mainly thru physical stimulation. My hunch is that many men my age/health can identify.

 

Ironically, I was watching some hot porn last nite, and climbed the mountain twice within a half-hour (without any little blue pill!). Not that I need MSOG, but it would be really sweet to have that much arousal happen in a real encounter just once before the plumbing gets really rusty.:)

[PistolPete 61421]

Ok I read this a couple of times, and firstly and little leakage is not the full blown package:jackoff:deal.

 

Sadly she missed the boat on that, and I'm sure if you were right into getting it on with her after the precum I'm sure you would of given her the full package.

 

I've been with a few ladies where, the sensual touching, kissing and in fact when I go down on a lady there is nothing more that turns me on hearing her get off when I'm giving her DATY.

 

Yes I get up wipe myself clean from any precum, and we continue onwards, it is the full load, the end result your DNA flying into the condom,THAT is really your 1st shot on goal.

 

Now that is my take on it, so go ahead and precum it is not a full release.:jackoff:

 

About 40 min into the session, I had some precum, which she interpreted as my final release (don't get me started on that issue), and told me a session only included one release, and that we were done. Ok, my bad, I shoulda dblchecked if MSOG was part of her services

[Andee 220524]

Sailor, I believe that you probably know your body and how it reacts better than anyone. If you decide to back and spend time with a companion, I think you should ask for what you want. If you think you can cum twice in an hour then you know how it longs it will take you to get ready for shot # 2. The fact that you misread SSOG, well I always say that you have to do your homework and read the fine print.

 

If it you makes you feel better, I once had made a deal with 2 Streetwalkers (I know I was very young 22yrs old), took them to my room thinking that I would finally fufill my fantasy and get 2 chicks at the same time. Well $400 back later (btw that was 30 years ago) they basically ripped my pants off and devoured me. Well I lasted all of 5 minutes. They got up, got dressed and left. On the way out I was telling them I thought thew session was for an hour, they responded "well you didn't last an hour honey. See ya". What was I to do call the cops. I learned a valuable lesson.

 

ATH

 

Which is why when girls leave or end the session before the time is up, some of us refer to that as "street walker" mentality. From what I hear these days, you'd be lucky to even get the service. Some of those girls would just take your money and run.

 

I figure some girls don't know who they are or what they are - it's up to you to find out what angle they're coming from because there is "everything" out there due to easy access to free Internet advertising. You have to be careful.

 

What can be frustrating for ladies like me is when a client says he's good for two in an hour, wants to get the first one out of the way fairly quickly so he can recharge and then says, "Oh, I really didn't think you'd actually be able to make me come that fast - I'm not really good for two at all". Then I feel guilty.

 

So even communicating beforehand doesn't always help. All I can do is try and work with them and try to tune into their rhythm. This is sometimes difficult to do with first timers. I do my best and hope that whatever happens, my clients walks away with a smile on his face.

[etasman2000 15994]

What can be frustrating for ladies like me is when a client says he's good for two in an hour, wants to get the first one out of the way fairly quickly so he can recharge and then says, "Oh, I really didn't think you'd actually be able to make me come that fast - I'm not really good for two at all". Then I feel guilty.

 

No need to. After all he just expressed astonishment that you were incredible! :motion:

[GHT 798]

I certainly know myself better after a year of hobbying. The best sessions for me have been the ones where the sex is relaxed, sensual and passionate. Ideally I can stay at he the delicious peak for a while before finishing with 10 or 15 minutes to go.

 

Times where I was going for a second SOG with time constraints haven't been as good. It seems like both the SP and I get more mechanical an less passionate in an effort to get the deed done. The pressure to perform doesn't help either.

So it seems best to book 1.5 or 2hr appointments for 2 quality SOG.

 

BTW ladies - some of you offer 45min and 1.5hr rates. I think its a really good idea since everyone is different and the 1/2, 1hr, 2hr options may not be ideal.

 

GHT

[Guest S**a*Q]

I'm a fan of that. It's your time and you have that time to do what you can. :D I also like when I can do it more than once for someone... It's like a challenge for me. Hahaha, like a marathon! However, on that note, I still do strive for quality over quantity, but it's always fun to push the limits once in awhile. :P

 

Also, I don't understand how precum can be seen as the final deed... I know when I've done my job right. Hehehe. If there's no shuddering, sensitivity and trembling issues... then I'm probably still on the job. :D

[frankthetank 123]

I love this site, as others share the "not so good experiences".

 

As we all know: there are excellent providers, and there are not so excellent providers. I had an experience recently where the provider showed up in my room, asked for the donation and told me the rather large amount was only to get her to the room and absolutely everything was extra.

Her profile said "GFE" yet she wanted a couple hunderd bucks just to walk in the room.

 

It is buyer beware.

I am glad we have CERB.

[Emma Alexandra 123366]

I love this site, as others share the "not so good experiences".

 

As we all know: there are excellent providers, and there are not so excellent providers. I had an experience recently where the provider showed up in my room, asked for the donation and told me the rather large amount was only to get her to the room and absolutely everything was extra.

Her profile said "GFE" yet she wanted a couple hunderd bucks just to walk in the room.

 

It is buyer beware.

I am glad we have CERB.

 

How the heck is that GFE? That's crazy. I think some ladies just say GFE and have no real idea what is...maybe i should start a class on all this stuff for the new ladies..lol