peacectryguy 12523 Report post Posted September 27, 2014 Okay, I don't know if anyone has heard of this or seen it and I'm not sure if this is the right place to post it but here goes anyway. I saw this article on another forum and frankly, I'm disgusted that this is our system of justice. While they want to make criminals of all of us, they allow this killer to walk the streets even though he doesn't accept responsibility for his actions. The victim's family, understandably is appalled and dismayed, to say the least. Here's the link. link to the Calgary Sun article. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escapefromstress 2976 Report post Posted September 27, 2014 7 years isn't exactly a life sentence is it? I feel for her family. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacectryguy 12523 Report post Posted September 27, 2014 I'm with you RG. The killer, then the courts, then the media continue to victimize this young lady and for what? Because she is/was native and a sex trade worker? Facts that should never, EVER have any bearing on this case. This asshat gets stoned and drunk, can't get it up so he chokes the life out of her.Not only that, he tried to dispose of the body. Yes, when he sobered up, he came clean but that was likely only because he realized that he would be caught anyway. What really bothers me is this notion that he should get any leniency at all because he is A) white B) a jock and C) can afford a high priced mouthpiece. Even now, he blames it all on the drugs and doesn't take full responsibility. Yes, it is only day parole but imo, he should never see the light of day again. Murder is murder and this is not justice. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300291 Report post Posted September 27, 2014 I'm with you RG. The killer, then the courts, then the media continue to victimize this young lady and for what? Because she is/was native and a sex trade worker? Facts that should never, EVER have any bearing on this case.This asshat gets stoned and drunk, can't get it up so he chokes the life out of her.Not only that, he tried to dispose of the body. Yes, when he sobered up, he came clean but that was likely only because he realized that he would be caught anyway. What really bothers me is this notion that he should get any leniency at all because he is A) white B) a jock and C) can afford a high priced mouthpiece. Even now, he blames it all on the drugs and doesn't take full responsibility. Yes, it is only day parole but imo, he should never see the light of day again. Murder is murder and this is not justice. Agreed, you murder someone, be it first degree or second degree, you should never see the light of day, or at least it takes a LONG TIME before you get to see daylight. Her life was worth far more than seven years of his Legally he may have met the criteria for second degree, but the Judge could have made his Parole/Day Parole eligibility much longer. And just being eligible didn't mean the PBC had to grant him Day Parole RG 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinelli 22184 Report post Posted September 27, 2014 The attitude of the Calgary Sun is exactly what allows these killings to continue. No woman should die like that, but the Calgary Sun specifically says she deserves no public sympathy. Every woman in Canada should be outraged. Everyone should be writing the editor, calling women's advocates, calling advertisers to tell them they are boycotting the Sun. Guys too! Get off your butt, this is a chance to Do something Now! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted September 28, 2014 The attitude of the Calgary Sun is exactly what allows these killings to continue.No woman should die like that, but the Calgary Sun specifically says she deserves no public sympathy. Every woman in Canada should be outraged. Everyone should be writing the editor, calling women's advocates, calling advertisers to tell them they are boycotting the Sun. Guys too! Get off your butt, this is a chance to Do something Now! That is not the tone of the article that I read. It seems clear that the intent of the article is to rehumanize the victim, and show everyone why she matters more than her killer. And that she had a family who misses her. The thing i regret is their adamant denial that she was an sp, and that goes into the comments as well. the tone of the family/friend comments is that of judgment, and trying to distance her from it doesn't actually help. I'd rather they focus on the fact that regardless of what she did, she did nothing to justify the killer's actions. i got confused by the term 'massage parlour', when what it is is an apartment set up for sps. Everything i remember reading about this case at the time led me to think that she had been in vancouver for a while, working as an sp. to me, if that hadn't been evident, then the sentencing might have been quite different. He doesn't just claim she was, there would have been copies of the ad, the phone #, etc. In some report i read elsewhere, there was an owner of the apartment, who had the security cameras for the front door of the building set up, and recorded those who entered. Something that aided in helping to prove the guy wasn't as inebriated as he claimed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Jessica Lee 43328 Report post Posted September 28, 2014 fa·ce·tious adjective treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant. .........that's what the comments were, completely sarcastic and facetious. Despite the rather obvious fact that the writer didn't intend those comments with any kind of seriousness, they were still not in very good taste, in my opinion. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinelli 22184 Report post Posted September 28, 2014 That is not the tone of the article that I read. It seems clear that the intent of the article is to rehumanize the victim, and show everyone why she matters more than her killer. And that she had a family who misses her. I hope I was wrong, Living in Winnipeg has made me touchy about this subject. I do volunteer at an inner city Centre for youth. And almost all are native. All kinds of native girls get sexually exploited. It is a very ugly situation, a couple of my best friends are native and I do it for them. There are lots of screwed up families, screwed up so bad that young girls run away. Their home should be safe but they are in constant danger from their own relatives. I see people complaining about the "system" failing their daughter or neice. I saw that very thing recently and it was a woman I know for a fact who had abandoned her daughter and allowed her to be abused. She blames everyone but herself for her daughter's situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted September 28, 2014 I hope I was wrong, Living in Winnipeg has made me touchy about this subject. I do volunteer at an inner city Centre for youth. And almost all are native. All kinds of native girls get sexually exploited. It is a very ugly situation, a couple of my best friends are native and I do it for them. There are lots of screwed up families, screwed up so bad that young girls run away. Their home should be safe but they are in constant danger from their own relatives. I see people complaining about the "system" failing their daughter or neice. I saw that very thing recently and it was a woman I know for a fact who had abandoned her daughter and allowed her to be abused. She blames everyone but herself for her daughter's situation. It's difficult to rise above a long history of socialization, i agree. some of the most successful native communities are the ones who take control of their land, and their government, but that can include healing circles and education and even re education. It is not an easy fix, and as that woman does, it is simpler to blame everyone else. This is not the only story about an sp being killed by someone and the guy getting light insignificant sentencing. the courts tend to get the easy hit, rather than risk a miss with a heavier charge, imo. manslaughter they can get the guy to agree to, if they charge anyone at all. A case in burnaby barely got any followup story at all, no idea if they charged anyone, the #1 suspect is the exBF. Cases in New Westminster under a publication ban, so no idea what if anything the guy is getting charged with, for 3 murders (2 sps, one other person) Is he also going to get a deal because they want information about the drug trade he's involved in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipualipua 4704 Report post Posted September 28, 2014 The attitude of the Calgary Sun is exactly what allows these killings to continue.No woman should die like that, but the Calgary Sun specifically says she deserves no public sympathy. No. The writer qualified that sentiment with the word "apparently", thereby mocking the justice system. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
