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An great experience is not limited by the size of the players. Size is a subjective term with no 2 people?s definitions meaning the same thing. This thread reminds me of the racism issue at home. Most people would not intentionally say a slur, nor would they think they are racist. They would not choose an unqualified white man over a qualified black man, and don?t hesitate to sit in a restaurant beside a different race, which 40 years ago was unheard of. But when the baby brings a different shade home to meet the parents, it?s a challenge to those dearly held social beliefs. Weight discrimination is out there, even if we don?t acknowledge it. The degree varies, like color discrimination. The lighter the skin...the better. The thinner the woman?the better. It?s not conscious, but it?s there. It is a societal perception and not reflective of all the individuals in the society. Discussion brings things to light, and with the light darkness cannot exist. If someone relies on a particular body type rather than the person within for the attraction stimulus, it simply means they are focused on form which is linear, rather than essence which is depth. It is not better or worse, it is simply the way they see the stardust we are all made of. Yes, the proportions have to be symmetrical to be appealing to the eye most of the time, but not always. Yes, as a society; most tend look for those bodies that visually balance. We have had decades of Playboyesque female forms to shape what we define as beautiful. To say what you like today isn?t shaped by the filters of how you view the world (which are formed over a lifetime) is simplistic. We all do it. I have 4 daughters, 1 spinner, 2 average curvys and one that is a BBW. They are all beautiful facially. The BWW is as pretty as the others, and at times even more beautiful. Shes outgoing and smart, but she is the one sitting on the couch with me on Saturday night. Only older men ask her out, and at 18 she finds that a little too weird still. In time she will realize that age isn't a factor. In the meantime she waits. I was never a spinner. I have been volumptuous from puberty, and often times just plain ole fat. I had no confidence about my body when I was young because I wasn?t slim hipped with a little ass. Did the centerfolds taped up all over my dads garage influence how I felt about my body? Absolutely! I would sit in the office and look at the "perfection". No false breasts back then, just natural, slender women. It was the '70's and I was a '50's shape. Just didn't fit the mold, but I was too young to realize. As I matured my body changed. With childbearing my hips widened, my breasts softened and internally did weird and wonderful stuff. The curves to me now represent life and all the changes that I regard as amazing. I would not trade my body type now, I embraced it years ago, but it took being an escort to realize I was attractive and desirable. We come in all shapes and sizes, which is the wonder of human beings. I think there is an issue, but it will change with time if it's recognized. It always does? Cat