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Try not paying your lawyer or your mechanic and see what happens. They may send you demand letters, get a collection agency to call you endlessly, take you court, put a lien against your house or your car or make a report about you to the various credit bureaus. But if you don't pay me, what can I do? I could try to let others know what's happened. The chances are that I know more about you than you think. But will I? Probably not. Because in a conflict between me and a client, the man suddenly turns into a fine, up-standing man, a pillar of the community, admired by friends and strangers and a fine example of all that it is to be kind, conscientious, thoughtful, charitable and deeply good, not to mention the best and most faithful husband in the world. At the same time, I will rapidly turn into a lying, conniving, home-wrecking, desperate, likely drug-addicted bit of trash with nothing going for me but my probably-fading beauty and thinking too much of myself to do anything but lie down on a soft bed and expect men to shower me with $100 bills. Even more important than all of that, if I go after the guy who decides not to pay me, I have to "out" myself, not Samantha Evans, but me. Realistically, after that, my landlord could evict me and my ex unquestionably will act to take away the children that he refuses to support now. :tresmauvaisehumeur: Okay... I'll calm down a little bit. Let's put it this way. We screen our clients. We do the best we can to decide whether a prospective client is safe for us to see. Not just to see, but to have into our homes, into our beds and into our bodies. Those of us who don't have a pretty well-developed intuition don't do very well in this business, but none of us is perfect. We all take calls that we wish we'd turned away, sometimes. We're concerned about compatibility, for sure, but mostly we want to know that we're safe, that we don't have to worry that we're going to be harmed or outed publicly. A client's first meeting with a companion is the last step in the screening process. How that meeting goes will determine whether she's willing to see him again. If you show up and don't pay me before things get underway, you fail my screening test. Period.

I live for love,for my kids and to make at least one person smile a day. I always feel better knowing that I've done that.:icon_biggrin: Live and love life!

Wow, this post is so offensive I don't know where to start. 1) I recently hired a lawyer to research for me all the legalities surrounding my business so I could have a thorough understanding. She received a $1000 retainer before delivering her services to me. 2) The professionals you speak of have LEGAL recourses to obtain money not paid. Didn't pay your lawyer? She can take you to court! But look luck seeing an escort pursue such legal means! I think the point many of us make is that we would LIKE to be like any other professional, and that is why activist groups exist, but we are not there yet! I would love to have the same rights as others professions! Sounds to me like you're actually the one interested in manipulating. Afraid of getting screwed over? Choose a well-reviewed companion! Have someone screw you over? Post that on an online review board! On another note, I provide much better service when I'm paid upfront, as I do request. When I'm not paid upfront (as I didn't always ask in the beginning) there was a minor stress throughout the session wondering: "Is he going to pay me?" I'm actually more likely to get the client out the door right on time when he hasn't paid because I'm eager to get my money and get that stress out of me. When he has paid, I sometimes allow things to linger a bit. I'm in no rush, though when I'm not paid I'm certainly in a rush to get paid! Summary? If you don't pay me upfront, I won't provide as good service because my mind is elsewhere, and I'm more likely to boot you out the door because I want to receive my payment. This doesn't happen anymore as I ask for payment upfront! Withholding payment because you think you will get better service just sounds ridiculous to me. If you have to do this to get good service, you obviously haven't chosen a good provider! FYI, every time I've heard of a lady getting ripped out (an envelope filled with Canadian Tire money, a stack of bills with $5's inside, and $20 on the outside, etc) it had NOTHING to do with her service! Guys who like to rip off ladies will rip them off no matter what the service. If you are not satisfied with the service, you should NOT withhold payment. You should discuss it with her and see if you can come to an agreement. Could she give you a partial refund? A longer session at the same price? You don't have the right to withhold payment just because you didn't like the service she offered. This isn't a "pay me what you feel I was worth" deal. If you agreed to pay her $200, you need to be honourable and pay her the $200 for her hour. If you can't agree to do that because you don't trust the lady will deliver the service you're looking for, then don't go see her. Sorry but I couldn't disagree more. I'm well-reviewed, give great service, and ask for payment upfront. The reason being: I want to be relaxed during the session and not thinking about money & I don't want to get ripped off. There is no alterior motive or hidden agenda. I'm also happy to say that in 3.5 years in the sex industry (stripping and massage) I have NEVER been ripped off. As such, I will continue my "payment upfront" policy.

Just to start off i am not sure that this is in the right section but I am sure it can be moved if not. I think we all remember the talk about Chavez and his last party and some hype about another party in the works, well I was one of the lucky ones to be invited to the latest "Sybian Party" and let me tell you that when it comes to parties Chavez knows his stuff, I am sure there was not a thing that was missed, from the main attraction of the Sybian to the toys , gift bags, draws, auctions it was all there. I will tell you that I was a little apprehensive at first about a party where there are other pooners around and several ladies to choose from but after that experience all I can say is I hope I get to go to the next one, all thought the party turned out a little smaller that Chavez had hoped it was still a great crowd and the ladies made out with some great prizes and the men with memories that bring a smile to my face every time I think about it, let me tell you that Tuesday was a long day for me. I am not sure if any one else has been invoved in any of these party's around the peg before but if you get the chance to go to one of these don't miss out. Thanks Chavez.

I was asked about a dozen times to let members know how the Sybian party went so I thought I would do it here. First we had a couple of fairly late cancelations and two ladies were a no show inspite of the fact that 1 re-confirmed the night before. We received no cancelation phone calls but a reasonable explanation after the party. Fortunately I had a lady that I was confident would come on short notice. She had experienced the Sabian the previous night and I told her about the party. Inspite of the fact that she was shopping when I called her, she was at the hotel suite in less that 45 minutes. Until 9:00 we chatted, sipped wine or juice , nibbled and shared experiences.I had no idea that TS persons were of such interrest to ladies ( they don't interrest me in the least.) At 9:00 the games began. The first event was the fully clothed, panties on, no penitration Sybian experience( there was a reason for this modest introduction). There was a little hesitation about who would try this first. When a small remuneration was offered there was some friendly buisness negotiation, but nothing I precieved as greed. Kaylee was the first rider. The idea was to ride the Sybian in full view of all present without exposeing one's panties. The concept being that everyone was going to see the ecstacy on the rider's face and witness the changes in her body. For the rider the object is self explanitory. A hush(almost embasassing) fell over the party as everyone watched Kaylee take her first ride. I shouldn't really describe it any further than to say it was beautiful for all of us; as was Elizabeth's first ride, as was Cindy's. I am very happy to say that not one of the ladies mounted the saddle for 10 seconds, got up and said " that's enough". There was a little minor adjusting and positioning but other than that each lady rode that stallion to satisfaction. After that event we held a panty auction. Here the ladies stayed out of sight from the men while I described in turn each ladies panties and I acted as auctioneer ( and sometime bidder) in a panty auction. Now you can see why we had the ' panty on Sabian experience' first. I think that it helped add a little something to the value of the panties that the men would bid on. This event was fun, I certainly had fun, and I think all would agree. The proceeds went directly to the ladies involved and the prices paid were pretty much where I hoped they would be. Except one of the guys became overly excited and purchased 2 pair. I planned the party withequal number of men and ladies. Unfortunately I lost out. (I will have to discuss with him the concept of share. lol) After the auction the men had the priviledge of removing the panties from the ladies.They did so with all the haste of a worker on a goverment contract. Which only added to the anticipation and delight of everyone. Once the panties were in the posession of their new owners, they were given back to the ladies, temporarily, for the panty toss. If we were in the Jakarta room at Marriagi's this would have been a toss into the chandlier. but since we weren't the ladies tossed their panties at a make-shift ring toss board that was festuned with prizes in various denominations. This worked out to be not quite as easy as expected so it took a bit of time and several tosses for each pair to find a home and suitable reward for their former owners. I believe one of the guys was drafted in as a relief pitcher. When the prizes were distibuted each lady also got a gift certificate to La Senza for garment replacement. The ladies surrendered their panties, and the panties were not replaced for the duration of the evening. Time for more refreshments, and conversation , a bit foreplay and intamacy. After that two of the ladies treated us to some shadow dancing of a decidedly suggestive nature from behind a back light screen, hot, hot,hot ! From this point on I will try always to include this in our evenings entertainment. We followed that with our version of a glory-hole. In every respect the evening was ment to be as delightful for the spectators as for the participants and I think it worked. After that there was more conversation, refreshments, and a room was made available for private intamacy. Then the ladies availed themselves of the Sabian, again. This time without panties and with the small size appendage attatched , and penitration. Once again the din of silence was unbelieveable as the machine was dialed up to 70% power and a little beyond on both rotation and vibration. Again the rides were not short duration and one lady even chose to ride it a third time. The party lasted well past midnight and may well have lasted longer but more than a couple of us had work and go to meetings in the morning. Intersperse with the activities were booty bags for the ladies and prise draws for the ladies. The final draw for the evening was for a Colombian emerald ring of .69 ct. There was a picture taken of it, which I don't have. Maybe the owner of the photo can add it to this post. There were activities that I can't comment on and others that I won't. I think most of us would do it all again, or something close to it. (there should always be changes). I am not sure when the next 'chicas party for ladies and gentlemen' will be held, only that there will be another. ...chicas/chavez

If we accept that we are all human and carry with us high levels of emotion than it is completely understandable how this can be very difficult. At one end, we hear stories of SPs/Clients falling in love and spending the rest of their lives together. Maybe that only happens in movies but, I have heard of it and I guess need to accept that it is possible. Well if that is possible than it is also easy to see that one side could fall deeply for the other and loose perspective of what the relationship is and where it is at. So could that possibly make it very hard for a client when their favourite SP retires. Absolutely. I guess in the same respect for human emotion an SP could be very bothered if loosing one of her favourite clients. The reality is, an emotional loss at any level is a loss and in the situations that get created in this world it is easy for me to understand how they can be painful. Personally I've come close but I think thusfar have done well at keeping things in perspective. I know I have gone through mini emotional roller coasters in particular when it comes to ladies I've gotten very close to. I'm OK with this and find it somewhat exciting but is certainly true that we need to know where the line is and keep things in perspective. A few months back I had my favourite lady considering leaving the business to pursue a relationship in her private life. In all honesty this was very difficult for me although I think I always held it together. In the end I kinda got over a little emotional hurdle and truly realized that I cared about the lady so much that I wanted what was best for her and even if that meant I would never see her again. I think I had to go through that once just to strengthen my resolve and know that I can. Do I deeply miss those who I've been fortunate enough to spend time with and have decided to move on. Absolutely! But stronger than that feeling of loss is the admiration and hope that they are enjoying life in a new way. Cub

Being new to this, I don't really know what it's like when a favorite SP retires. However, having been around people and friens who work in the various adult industries, I find that you develop friendships with people that, like all friendships, can be hard to give up. I would imagine that it's different in the case of a client and an SP, but maybe not so much. As others have mentioned, it's important to undersand that the relationship that is created is somewhat artificial. You are, in essence and for want of better words, leasing a moment of intimacy and connection. That doesn't necessarily preclude the moment from generating a real friendship or relationship, I would imagine (as SA says, we're not robots,) but I think the basic understanding going into this is that there is a necessary distance kept between the SP and the client, at least emotionally. So, when a favorite retires, I would think that it should be fairly easy to understand and accept, even if there are some regrets that the wonderful and fleeting moments you shared won't be repeated. I've been friends and known a lot of dancers over the years, and have fallen out of touch with some and kept in touch with many others. I miss the conversation and personalities of those I may never speak to again and value the friendships I have developed with those I stil seak to. I would think, for myself, it would be the same with an SP. I would welcome becoming a friend and getting o know them. But, I also know better than to expect that, and would wish them well in whatever they do if I were never to see them again. Regret and all.

easy does it there malika... i get concerned when i hear things like this just live for one day at a time, just be thankful for your daily bread today, let tommorrow worry about itself, because tommorrow is just as uncertain for those that think they have it all together as for those that think they dont. nothing is ever as it seems right now, and all things in time shall pass.

Tell ya what King, you give me the $240 and I'll take the money in for you. I know I'll have $10 to top it off. Just make sure you wait an hour before knocking on the door ;-) lol

I stumbled upon MiaBella's post "Introducing Layla Kay... Mia's Goddess In Training" and couldn't resist making contact to set up a meeting. I am now a true believer in fate as within seconds of laying eyes on this tall blond Goddess with the face that could grace any fashion magazine, I was spellbound. Layla is the type of woman you just can't take your eyes off of. Her long curly blond hair frames a gorgeous face with the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen. Her skin is a natural tanned olive color that is as soft as velvet. She has an hourglass figure with curves in all the right places. Her legs are long and very toned.....oh so sexy. I never once felt that Layla was "in training" as her easy going and fun personality put me as ease immediately. I was offered a refreshment and then Layla excused herself to change into an amazing pink and black piece of lingerie......I fumbled to find the words and as she approached me and pulled my head to her beautiful full bosom...that's when that familiar "hunger" started to well up inside me. I gently kissed my way down her neck to her shoulders while she ran her long manicured nails across my back. We headed to the bedroom where I proceeded to worship ever inch of Layla's perfection. She was very responsive to my soft touches and kisses and within minutes I was DATY while reaching up to caress her now hard nipples. She paused for a moment and asked me to use her "toy" .....I was more than happy to oblige and her subsequent orgasm was very intense as I flicked my tongue across her swollen clit while moving the toy towards her g-spot. Layla then sent me to stars with an amazing BJ( very wet) and finished with cowgirl while I reached up and cupped her firm breasts. We showered together and spent the remainder of the time hugging and kissing....her lips are so soft...I could kiss her for hours. If you read any of my recommendations and decide to visit a lady...THIS IS THE ONE NOT TO BE MISSED..... Treat her like the Goddess she is and you will not be disappointed. AAA HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. ...( I HATE THE IDEA OF SHARING THIS SWEETHEART..LOL). Thank you Mia for being a great "teacher" and thank you Layla for bringing me long lasting happiness..

Fun...that is what I live for!

The reason I disagree that her past profession is relevant is twofold. First, it's her "past" profession. Maybe we should bring up whether or not her was a Scout or Wolf Cub as a boy. What they did in the past is only relevant if it has direct bearing on their actions in the alleged crime. Which leads to my second point. Her past profession is not relevant unless you are making a connection between what she did for a living and an attitude, personality or propensity that makes it more believable that she committed the crime. Simply, are they saying "well of course she was a shady, fraudulent criminal; she used to be an escort!" The media is using her past profession as an "ah ha!" Corrupt, greedy ex-political operative schemes to make tons of money, and if you doubt the intent of the deal, well his fiancé was his accomplice, and she used to br an escort. Case closed. THAT is how using the titillation of this story under the false premise of relevance is damaging. And, worse, it draws negative attention to SPs in the midst of a court battle, and draws CERB into the media for a short spin.

Very nice, thanks. A teeny bit sentimental, but the basic message is bang on... don't stop living. Ever. There are some strong pressures on all of us to know and stay in our assigned and expected places. If you liked that, you'd probably love the movie "Waking Ned Devine". One of my favourites.

Your way off with this....I travel and ask for pre-payment from some new clients via money transfer. Never have I felt so offended by some ones comments, take your negativity to another board. If a lady feels the need to ask for money upfront she has her reasons and they are really none of your business or concern. This is a business (A REAL Business) to many of us, so have the respect to respect our policys

and the reason usually is some dude got the service and didn't pay or short changed the lady.

I remember every client I have ever met! Every one of them have taken a piece of me with them when they move on in their lives. I completely agree with SA. Some were great people and we did create some kind of relationship, that I will miss. I also know this is not true with every person. I have met some people in this business who just want to forget day to day. But for me it is so much more. I like to help people, and show them some one does care for them. Even if it is just lending an ear, or giving them a hug when they need one. This is just my opinion, but I completely agree with you SA! I will always remember and cherish my time. It is how we learn and grow in life, by experiences and learning from others experiences.

I spend a good amount of time during my session lightly caressing that entire area, body sliding and stimulating the blood flow. It's a slow tease, pull back, tease again and pull back. I think it's too mechanical to just give someone a massage and then five minutes for the release. Puts you poor guys on the clock as well. I think as soon as the person flips over and after a nice massage to the chest area, the sensuality begins and touch and tease plays a great part in a slow build up to the final release. As well, if I do spend an additional 5-10 min on the release it's not a big deal. The worst thing a guy can hear is "Ummmm, you have two minutes left." Now that's a shriveling limp moment! lol!