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Yes. I just wonder how visible Lyla is on the overall radar. It seems a lot of ladies seem content with simply advertising, as Backpage seems to be the 'go to' site these days. Now for myself, I started on another board back in 2001, and in all honesty I never even knew this board exited until I came upon it quite by accident! Glad I did, though... :)

Indeed... yet when will that be? I'm sure it's frustrating for all of us to be on a 'short leash', so to speak. The question remains, when / if the government chooses to act, will they give the issues at hand a meaningful and introspective examination, or merely a cursory perusal at best? What will the changes be, if any? More to the point, who will be in power when actual real change does occur? Hopefully it is not another Conservative government. I hold out hope that a new court challenge will be launched in the interim and that things change for the better before too much time has passed.

The new law has certainly put a damper on things, hasn't it? Things just aren't the same anymore, so I've become somewhat of a lurker. I'll wait until such time as the Liberals see fit to repeal, or at least amend C-36, or a constitutional challenge is launched... whichever comes first.

Was this a lady from Lyla, or Backpage?

Perhaps the OP is referring to a situation where, instead of just offering time or companionship for "x" amount, a provider lists specific services or abbreviations. In this case, the issue may be that while an SP may legally advertise her services, it creates a grey area for the client - For example, If LE were to uncover this sort of a text between a client and provider, it may be harder for the client to argue that they were compensating the lady for her time only, when specific abbreviations corresponding to specific sexual acts were used within the text itself and the client has agreed to a booking.

Wow... this girl is smoking! Has anyone else seen her lately? A nice reco would be helpful. Thanks!

Thanks for this... does anyone know what the Liberal's timeline is?

January 25th, 2016 / 1:35 p.m. Randall Garrison Esquimaltâ??Saanichâ??Sooke, BC Mr. Speaker, I salute the community work the minister did before coming to the House. I want to quickly ask her two questions. First, as she may be aware, I put forward a bill to provide equal protections for transgendered Canadians, transgendered Canadians being some of the people who are quite often forced to use shelters and who are subject to some of the worst violence in the country. Would she join with me in urging the Minister of Justice to bring that forward as a government bill? My second question has to do with the situation of those who are involved in sex work in Canada. Under the previous government, the Supreme Court decision that decriminalized sex work was, in effect, overturned by Bill C-36. Now many people, for whatever reason, involved in the sex trade are being subjected to discrimination and to a great deal of violence as a result of that bill. What is the minister's position is on the recriminalization of sex work? January 25th, 2016 / 1:35 Elizabeth May Saanichâ??Gulf Islands, BC Mr. Speaker, I also want to congratulate the hon. minister on her election, although she will know that I am very sad to lose the member she replaces, but I welcome her in her new role. I also commend the minister and her colleagues for starting the inquiry into murdered and missing indigenous. However, I want to support the decision just taken by the hon. member for Esquimaltâ??Saanichâ??Sooke, that Bill C-36 represents a threat, not just for women in the sex trade, but to any sex trade worker, which it has. I have heard first hand from groups working with sex trade workers and from sex trade workers themselves. They say that Bill C-36 has put them in more vulnerable positions than they were in even before the Supreme Court ruling. Therefore, it has done the opposite of what the Supreme Court has urged us to do. I take the minister's point that she awaits a decision and recommendations from the Minister of Justice, but I hope this new government will pursue the repeal of Bill C-36. [url]https://openparliament.ca/bills/41-2/C-36/?tab=mentions[/url]

Excellent post! I also just wanted to bring up the whole texting issue as well. I understand that it's come to be the accepted method of communication by most folks here. However, in light of C-36, wouldn't an old fashioned telephone call be the way to go? Now perhaps I'm way off base, overreacting and assuming the worst, but it seems infinitely preferable when you consider that texts do leave a trail. We hear so much about the need to be discreet, yet a lot of the ads I've seen have a line in them that says "texts only". Thoughts?

I wasn't referring to that. I simply meant that if a hotel rented a room to a sexworker unknowingly, and if security or staff noticed suspicious activity e.g. (heavy traffic coming and going from a particular room), they might report it to LE. That could spell trouble for both the lady and the hobbyists. In any case, it's always a good idea to stay vigilant. Additional Comments: Wow... that's surprising. I'd love to see them do it to someone who wasn't a sex worker, and have them sue the Hotel and the management!

I very much doubt a hotel establishment could refuse to rent a room on suspicion that a lady is a sex worker. They'd be setting themselves up for some problems of their own! lol. That begs the question 'what does a sex worker look like?' It's a whole other can of worms that they wouldn't dare open if the staff had any common sense. However, a bigger worry might be: Would hotel staff take it upon themselves to report activity they deem suspicious to LE for further investigation?

It was back in my 20's when I was at Hedonism II for a vacation. (Jamaica) It happened in the main dining room right after supper, complete with a blow job for good measure... Needless to say, I was a bit of a celebrity for the rest of the week! lol

Do you have a Link?

[B]Sex Workers Are Worried About How Ontario Will Rewrite Sex Trafficking Laws[/B] By Jake Kivanç Editorial Intern March 2, 2016 [URL="http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/sex-workers-are-worried-about-how-ontario-will-rewrite-sex-trafficking-laws"]http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/sex-w...afficking-laws[/URL] When Bill C-36â??a law that criminalized the purchasing rather than the sale of sexâ??came into effect in Canada in 2014, ripples were felt throughout the sex work industry. The bill was heavily criticized for putting sex workers in danger, despite the former Conservative government promoting the bill as being sex worker-friendly (by targeting clients instead of escorts). The Trudeau government, while pledging that they'd reexamine the issue, has yet to do anything concrete. Last year, media coverage of Ontario's sex trafficking industry put the government into overdrive. According to a committee that was set up to examine the issue, Ontario has become a "major" hub for sex trafficking in Canada. Nationwide, there are currently 330 identified sex trafficking cases by the RCMP. For each victim, traffickers are reportedly able to bring in between $168,000 and $336,000 a year through selling their services. Currently, hard statistics around sex trafficking in the province don't exist, but the Wynne government is slated to have a full platform for addressing the issue by June. To some sex workers, however, the direction that sex trafficking law is taking is worrying. While many sex workers acknowledge that sex trafficking is a real issue, they also feel the government is playing fast and loose with the definitionâ??promoting the conflation that sex work is non-consensual or somehow wrong, and, in the process, pushing the industry further underground. Last month, Ontario Progressive Conservative MPP Laurie Scott introduced the "Saving the Girl Next Door Act" to Queen's Parkâ??a bill that, in Scott's words, allows victims of sex trafficking to "fight back" against abusers. Scott told VICE that the law, while able to target a variety of cases, mainly focuses on those of child sex abuse, and that the government has "no interest" in going after consenting sex workers. Through what the bill calls "protection orders," victims, their families (if the victim is underage), and/or authorities would be able to go after "pimps" and "providers" for both criminal and punitive damages. The law would also make it so that those convicted under the new legislation would have to register as sex offenders, via a change made to Christopher's Law, the province's sex offenders registry. Scott claims that the bill is just one part of an effort to create a support network for victims of sex trafficking, adding that the province needs "sensitively-trained" legal and judicial services that are receptive to the needs of victims. "The people that are in prostitution of their own free will, that is their business. This issue is about children predominantly that are making no money. The pimp makes all the money. This is completely different [from sex work]. This is coercion. This is modern-day slavery." Scott's private member's bill has passed second reading last month and has now entered the committee phase. Being that it's an opposition bill, it's unlikely to pass as is. However, the bill was given a symbolic nod of support from Premier Kathleen Wynne, with her noting that the legislation will likely be incorporated into the province's framework to fight sex trafficking that is expected in June. While it's unclear exactly what the Ontario Liberals' plan will include, there are some clues as to what direction the government is goingâ??and to some sex workers, it's not looking good. Amid pressure from critics last December, Wynne made a commitment to take a comprehensive approach to combatting sex traffickingâ??a strategy that will likely follow up on suggestions to create a dedicated task force to hunt down and prosecute providers of sexual services. Tracy MacCharles, Ontario's Minister of Women's Issues, told VICE that the points brought up by Scott are "very important," and that the pending review in June will be incorporating a number of different perspectivesâ??which include consultations with sex work advocacy groups. While MacCharles couldn't directly comment on fear that a potential task force could be used against sex workers, she did say that the idea of federal decriminalization of sex workâ??which has been tabled as a possibility by Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybouldâ??is something that may be taken into account when drafting new legislation. "I can't imagine we'll move forward on this work without checking in with [sex worker groups] about these sorts of issues. There's a lot of views on this, but at the end of the day, we have to find what the problem we're trying to solve is and get to the core of it." What worries many sex workers and sex work advocates is the loose language that surrounds current legislation targeting the trafficking of young men and women. Heather Jarvis, a sex worker rights activist and member of Safe Harbour Outreach Program (SHOP) in St. John's, says that the continued portrayal of sex workers as victims is extremely harmful and exposes them to more danger than is necessary. "We're already at a really dangerous place in Canada where sex workers who are Indigenous women, sex workers who are drug users, sex workers who work at the street level, have been saying that the laws are harmful," Jarvis told VICE. "They've been saying that these laws bring a lot of danger into their lives, and the response from the government has been, Nope, we know what's good for you, and we're going to tell you what your life is like." While activists like Jarvis acknowledge the reality of sex trafficking in Ontario, the general consensus among sex workers is that well intentioned legislation is often used by authorities to target consenting sex workers. Although laws like Saving the Girl Next Door are created expressly to target sex traffickers, the protection orders still enable police to make the decision about whether they lump sex work agencies in with that definition. That, in itself, is a problem to many sex workers who chose this field as their career voluntarilyâ??they could end up in jail. And this fear of overzealous enforcement is felt most acutely by migrant sex workers. Not only do migrant sex workers face the threat of deportationâ??six sex workers from the migrant sex worker group Butterfly were deported last Decemberâ??but the fear of going to law enforcement for help leaves many more susceptible to violent situations. In January, the murder of Tammy Leâ??an Asian sex worker who was found strangled to death inside a Hamilton hotelâ??sparked outrage in the sex work community. Chanelle Gallant, co-director of the Migrant Sex Worker Project (MSWP), says that clamp down on sex trafficking are the same kind of laws that effectively force sex workers into hiding and, ultimately, expose migrants to the kind of violence that may have led to Le's death. "The most pressing concern facing migrant sex workers in Canada is violence," she told VICE. The Ontario government, while tight-lipped on the exact details of the plan, is expected to reveal their framework for combatting sex trafficking in June

What about ads that offer experiences instead of time? This is the part that gets me confused. For instance, if an agency advertises a one hour GFE experience for "x" amount of dollars, and a client opts for it, is that the same as one hour of "time"? I'm just wondering about legal implications of semantics for the client.

Happy Birthday, Cato! Have a good one...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/sydney-prostitution-arrest-charter-challenge-1.3442649 A lawyer representing one of 27 men swept up in a downtown Sydney prostitution sting last year dubbed John Be Gone says police violated his client's charter rights. T.J. McKeough argues the Cape Breton Regional Police operation, where two female officers posed as sex workers, lured his client into committing a crime. He also said the public naming of the men charged amounts to shaming. Cape Breton police charge 27 men in prostitution investigation Sydney prostitution crackdown will continue, says Cape Breton police chief Prostitution a 'sustained' problem in Sydney, say police "Part of our application is that there was actually a public shaming component that went on," McKeough said. "By listing off these people's names, ages and location of their residence so they are easily identifiable to all their peers. In essence, in a lot of people's minds, they were found guilty." The lawyer will make his arguments before a provincial court judge on May 30. In September, Cape Breton Regional Police announced more than two dozen men had been charged with communicating for the purposes of obtaining sexual services. Police Chief Peter McIsaac called a news conference, said the prostitution problem in the area had grown by "monumental proportions," and released the names, ages and communities of those charged. Operation was not fair McKeough said the operation involved two female officers. One would make eye contact with a prospective John, there would be communication, a price negotiated and then an arrest team would close in. He said the operation violated his client's rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. "It's akin, basically, to charging someone who is buying drugs instead of selling drugs now," McKeough said. "We're saying that the police have misused this ability in order to charge people who communicate for it. "In this case, if you take the police out of the equation, you couldn't really have charged these people with anything." Not entrapment, expert says After the Supreme Court of Canada struck down the country's prostitution laws in 2013, new legislation was passed in 2014. The new law makes it legal to sell sexual services, but illegal to purchase them. "We now have a very clear law in Canada that obtaining or offering to obtain sexual services for consideration is a criminal offence," said University of British Columbia law professor Janine Benedet, who was one of the lawyers involved in the Supreme Court hearing. "And so, if that's what it is that these men are looking for, then they are breaking the law." Benedet said research shows the fear of publicity is one of the main deterrents to men hiring prostitutes. She said the type of sting operation set up by the Cape Breton Regional Police is not unique. "They are simply substituting for the women in prostitution. That really doesn't meet the legal definition of entrapment," she said. "Entrapment really involves a situation in which the police orchestrate and convince otherwise law-abiding citizens to commit a crime."

[B]Sting abuse of due process: Lawyer[/B] [B]Undercover op to lure, catch johns being called unfair[/B] [LIST] [*]Metro Canada (Halifax) [*]10 Feb 2016 [*]TC Media [/LIST] [IMG]http://cache3-img1.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/docserver/getimage.aspx?regionKey=tee%2f78OhmxjKdORI%2bNz1gQ%3d%3d[/IMG][I]Getty IMAGES [/I]Charging 27 Cape Breton men with obtaining sexual services is nothing more than an abuse of process by police, according to one defence lawyer who contends the charge against his client should be stayed. Lawyer TJ McKeough said a sting operation by Cape Breton Regional Police last fall â?? dubbed John Be Gone â?? undermines societyâ??s sense of decency and fair play when it comes to criminal prosecution. â??It is clear that this was a fishing expedition by the police in which they provided the opportunity for members of the public to commit an offence in an effort to address an isolated problem they had previously failed to correct when addressed head-on,â? said McKeough. Between last August and September, female undercover officers posed as prostitutes and strolled along Charlotte Street in Sydney. A total of 27 men from across the island were eventually charged with a new offence in the Criminal Code of communicating with anyone for the purpose of obtaining sexual services. Some of the accused have already entered guilty pleas and were issued fines. Several others have entered not-guilty pleas and were assigned trial dates. McKeough has filed a challenge to the charge under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and a provincial court judge is expected to hear the argument in May. In his brief filed with the court, McKeough said the release of the names of the individuals charged by police during a press conference amounted to a public shaming which he said is akin to locking someone in stocks in the town square. â??It is completely inappropriate for a police service to induce the commission of crimes, charge individuals, publicly shame them and then leave it to the court system to sort through the fallout,â? argues McKeough.

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[B][url]http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/most-sex-workers-satisfied-with-their-jobs-and-dont-see-themselves-as-victims-survey-finds[/url] Most sex workers satisfied with their jobs and donâ??t see themselves as victims, survey finds[/B] [URL="http://news.nationalpost.com/author/postmedianews"][IMG]http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/c22fbe20799d91fae8089156012b711a?s=34&d=mm[/IMG][/URL][URL="http://news.nationalpost.com/author/postmedianews"]Stephen Maher, Postmedia News[/URL] | September 23, 2014 7:41 PM ET [URL="http://news.nationalpost.com/author/postmedianews"]More from Postmedia News[/URL] [IMG]http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2014/09/prostitute.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=620[/IMG]Steve Bosch/Postmedia News/FilesAlthough a survey found that most sex workers are satisfied with their line of work, they report significantly higher rates of post-traumatic stress disorder than police, firefighters, nurses and even photojournalists who have worked in disaster zones. [LIST] [*][URL="http://twitter.com/share?text=Most+sex+workers+satisfied+with+their+jobs+and+don%E2%80%99t+see+themselves+as+victims%2C+survey+finds&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.nationalpost.com%2Fnews%2Fcanada%2Fmost-sex-workers-satisfied-with-their-jobs-and-dont-see-themselves-as-victims-survey-finds&related=financialpost,fullcomment&via=nationalpost"]Twitter[/URL] [*] [URL="https://plus.google.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.nationalpost.com%2Fnews%2Fcanada%2Fmost-sex-workers-satisfied-with-their-jobs-and-dont-see-themselves-as-victims-survey-finds"]Google+[/URL] [*][URL="http://reddit.com/submit?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.nationalpost.com%2Fnews%2Fcanada%2Fmost-sex-workers-satisfied-with-their-jobs-and-dont-see-themselves-as-victims-survey-finds&title=Most+sex+workers+satisfied+with+their+jobs+and+don%E2%80%99t+see+themselves+as+victims%2C+survey+finds"]Reddit[/URL] [*] [URL="http://news.nationalpost.com/email-form/?email-post=521382"]Email[/URL] [*] [URL="http://news.nationalpost.com/report-a-typo/"]Typo?[/URL] [*] [URL="http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/most-sex-workers-satisfied-with-their-jobs-and-dont-see-themselves-as-victims-survey-finds#More%20sharing%20options"]More[/URL] [/LIST] Most sex workers in Canada are comfortable in their work, according to a national survey of prostitutes, their partners, clients and managers. The study, funded by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research and based on hundreds of interviews in six communities, found that 70% of sex workers are satisfied with their jobs. Eighty-two per cent feel they are appropriately paid and 68% feel they have good job security. â??They donâ??t see themselves as victims in the sense that theyâ??ve been portrayed in the current [prostitution criminalization] bill,â? said lead researcher Cecilia Benoit. â??Theyâ??re actually a lot like you and I. They just havenâ??t had quite so many advantages in some cases.â? During debate over the Conservative governmentâ??s new prostitution law, Bill C-36, which seeks to abolish the industry by criminalizing it, the billâ??s supporters have portrayed sex work as intrinsically exploitative. The Conservatives brought in C-36 after the Supreme Court struck down the old law. It is expected to become law this winter. Play 0:00 / 0:00 Fullscreen Mute Need Text The bill is being studied in the Senate, where witnesses have given starkly different views of the profession, with backers of the legislation insisting that sex workers â?? who they claim are often trafficked women and children â?? are victims. The researchers â?? in Ottawa on Monday and Tuesday to present preliminary findings from the ongoing study â?? say thatâ??s not what most sex workers say. â??They talk to us about the amount of control they have over their work situation,â? said researcher Mikael Jansson. â??They have a lot more control over the timing of their work, the pace of their work than journalists.â? Sex workers reported a median annual income of $39,500. â??They say it gives them independence, given their life situation, and it gives them income,â? said Ms. Benoit. [B]Related[/B] [LIST] [*][URL="http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/09/10/leader-of-suit-against-canadas-prostitution-laws-kicked-out-of-committee-studying-tories-new-bill/"]Dominatrix kicked out of Senate hearing after threatening to expose politicians who hire prostitutes[/URL] [*][URL="http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/09/09/peter-mackay-says-new-prostitution-bill-will-protect-sex-workers-but-goal-is-to-end-sex-trade/"]Peter MacKay says new prostitution bill will protect sex workers, but goal is to end sex trade[/URL] [*][URL="http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/08/12/reihan-salam-canada-is-following-the-wrong-lead-on-prostitution/"]Reihan Salam: Canada is following the wrong lead on prostitution[/URL] [*][URL="http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/07/16/john-ivison-prostitutes-mulled-exposing-conservative-clients-after-palpable-hypocrisy-over-c-36/"]John Ivison: Prostitutes back off exposing Conservative clients despite â??palpableâ?? hypocrisy over C-36[/URL] [*][URL="http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/07/15/justin-ling-canada-never-met-a-social-ill-it-didnt-want-to-smother-with-bureaucracy-except-prostitution/"]Justin Ling: Canada never met a social ill it didnâ??t want to smother with bureaucracy â?? except prostitution[/URL] [/LIST] Eighty-one per cent of sex workers and 83% of clients surveyed agreed that the providers set the terms of the transactions. â??What weâ??ve found from the data is when it comes to workers, clients and their interaction, sex workers set the terms and conditions of the service,â? said Chris Atchison, of the University of Victoria. â??Clients come to them and say â??Hereâ??s what Iâ??m looking for.â?? A sex worker then says â??Iâ??m either willing or unwilling to provide that.â??â? Mr. Atchison, who has been interviewing sex workers and clients for 20 years, says that the more comfortable that transaction, the better. â??The longer the exchange goes on the less likely that weâ??re going to see conflict and the more likely weâ??re going to see increased sexual safety between the partners,â? he said. Sex workers report higher rates of freedom at work than people in other industries and lower levels of workplace stress than some professions, but high levels of stress from their lives outside work, higher levels of drug and alcohol use and three times the average level of depression. Play 0:00 / 0:00 Fullscreen Mute Need Text Sex workers report significantly higher rates of post-traumatic stress disorder than police, firefighters, nurses and even photojournalists who have worked in disaster zones. They also report higher levels of childhood trauma than most Canadians. â??Things that happen early on in life matter later,â? said Ms. Benoit. The researchers interviewed 218 sex workers in six communities: St. Johnâ??s, N.L., Montreal, Waterloo, Ont., Fort McMurray, Alta., Calgary and Victoria. They tried to ensure the sample was representative, but included no workers in Canada illegally and no children. Most sex workers are of age and not trafficked, the researchers say. â??Seventy per cent of people started after age 19,â? said Ms. Benoit. â??When we do further analysis I think weâ??ll see that their situation is much better than for people who start earlier on. And most of the focus, including in Parliament, is on people who are entering at age 13.â? Although they interviewed high-end escorts and low-paid street workers, they likely didnâ??t get full reports from the industryâ??s extremes, says Ms. Benoit. â??If you think of the sex industry as a continuum, there are people over here who have a lot of control and make a lot of money, and you have people over here who are forced,â? she said. â??Our study probably got people in the middle and towards the ends, but not at the extremes. Those people are very hard to capture.â? Postmedia News Play 0:00 / 0:00 Fullscreen Mute Additional Comments: Oops! Just realized this is an older article... however, the sentiment holds true. Let's hope the Liberals act to either amend or hopefully repeal the new law.

Here's the link: http://thechronicleherald.ca/metro/1340028-victims-of-human-trafficking

To the OP, bear in mind, a lady has the right to choose whatever rate she wishes - it's her body, her time, her choice. If you don't like it you have two options: 1) Save up until you can afford her rate 2) Find someone who is in your price range However, please don't complain; it's just bad form.

The PM has hired Dan Gardner as a senior adviser. https://ipolitics.ca/2016/02/03/auth...enior-adviser/ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle28549451/ If you weren't aware of where Dan Gardner stands, these should give you some idea. http://dangardner.ca/we-cant-keep-ig...g-sex-workers/ http://dangardner.ca/misdirected-moral-righteousness/

That's awesome! I know what you mean, though... For me, an appointment is more about the entire experience and really enjoying a woman's company. I remember there was a lady who I shared a true bond with some years back; I believe she's since left the industry - there were times when we'd just cuddle for a few hours and watch a movie and talk.... great times, and much more than just the physical aspect.

Has anyone seen Emily (RoseyLady5) yet?