Meaghan McLeod

Thank you Cyclo. Again, you have taken all the issues everyone is trying to convey, and clearly and articulated this into a reply that I am really hoping gets those to understand what I have been trying to convey. You are a true gem. Thanks! xoxo

Do you know their names by chance? If you can find that out, it is usually easier to find out information.

I have gone thru all of the responses. I have calculated each persons input, and put them to a spreadsheet. I only counted each persons response once to avoid double entries. Here is what I have found. Total number of responses 54 Providers responses 25 Hobbyists responses 29 Providers saying no to this 23 Providers saying yes to this 2 Hobbyists saying no to this 24 Hobbyists saying yes to this 5 Total saying No to this 47 Total saying yes to this 7 So, if my math is correct (and I will be the first to admit if I am wrong). Total % of Providers saying no 92% Total % of Providers saying yes 8% Total % of Hobbyists saying no 83% Total % of Hobbyists saying yes 13% Total of all respondents saying no 87% Total of all respondents saying yes 13% So, keep debating this one. This is an issue that unless you are the one providing the service, you will never truly understand. We can try to help you to understand, but if you choose to stop listening, and only do the talking, and trying to convince others why your answer is correct and the majority clearly state it is not correct, you will continue chasing your own tail. By the way, to the one who is sending out the following email to several providers, cute: Hey sexy, love your pics. What does $20 get me?

Just any fyi - as you are new, there are already a lot of threads about MA providers in Winnipeg. Start there. Once you have made a presence by posting, you will get a warmer reception for getting specific information. Look at the recommendations of providers in your area. Start with them. Open questions of "who should I see", without a background of who you are will generally get a chilly non-specific response. There seem to be a lot of new hobbyists who come in, ask a whole bunch of questions and don't contribute anything in return There is always a possibility that Law Enforcement is asking questions so they can target those that are providing, so until you have some posting history (and asking who provides does not count), they are looking for contributions. Good luck

Doesn't Montreal have an M erb? Not sure, but I would assume they are more active on that board. Good luck!

Thank you Cyclo. You have articulated what I have been trying to say for weeks. Excellent points and information. Again, well done! It is my hope that questions from those that are looking for RMT's who provide extras are treated just like those that ask questions like: any sp who smokes crack? any 16 year old sps working? We tell them they are not welcome to ask these types of questions and to please refrain from asking for this service. In my opinion, asking which RMT provides happy endings, should be considered illegal, if not, immoral. I also hope that this becomes a sticky for all areas. A lot of newbies do not go to the general section, they ask these types of questions in the area they live. Please, for the sake of my friends who are RMTs and do not want to provide anything but a massage, they feel like they are being violated when you try to get extras, especially when they do not advertise in any way shape or form that they provide anything but a legitimate massage they were trained to provide.

Thank you for your contributions. Looking forward to the next 100.

Great read Summer. I am glad to hear it worked out and your daughter sounds amazing. Must be her mothers genes!

Sorry to hear about this. However, I think that it is ok to remind the lady that she could use some mouthwash or chew a gum. She obviously doesn't realize that her breath is bad. Some people are more sensitive to this and unless someone points it out to her, she won't know. Yes, brush, mouthwash, chew gum - anything to help. Remember, if someone offers you a piece of gum, its because they want you to freshen your breath.

T is for tease. Easy to come in 3 minutes, but quite another to tease you and make you hold out till you cant take it anymore.

Sweetie, I am sure both of these fine ladies would be able to accommodate your needs. Being disabled and in a wheelchair is something a lot of us have dealt with, so don't sell yourself short. Important to let them know ahead of time, but don't feel they would not see you because of this. They are both gems!

You can post in the news area. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Thank you for that clarification.

I don't think anyone would consider someone who says "out of my price range, thank you for your time" is rude. As stated over and over, its for those that want to lowball an established rate and says "will you do it for "insert $" less then you advertise. That is when it becomes rude and inconsiderate. If you feel the rates are too high for your budget, move on. No harm, no fowl.

? What warning page are you referring to?

woosh, goes the 747 right over your head. Have you actually read ANY of the replies from providers?

So, here is an example of someone who decided to listen to the minority on this discussion. He is a new member and thought, well, if they say its ok to negotiate, then I will. So, he contacted me a couple of weeks ago - very respectful and asked me my rates. He asked if he could see me for $50 less then my rate, and I politely told him I do not negotiate. He said, ok, I will contact you when I have the money. He then contacted another provider who is well reviewed. He asked her "can I see you for $50 less". She agreed. His experience is as follows: He really wanted a bbbj - he got a cbj. He wanted MSOG, he got SSOG. His total time from the time he left his car to the time he got back in his car was a total of 12 minutes. No kissing, no daty, she wore a basic outfit instead of the sexy outfit she usually wears. So, he went away disappointed. Yes, he got off, but he felt like he had received less then he hoped for. So, this is how she dealt with a negotiator. She gave less service then she normally does, and did this because he paid less then her rate. He came to see me, paid my rate in full, plus gave me a $100 tip for the great service I gave him. He got everything he wanted and left with the biggest smile on his face. I talked with her about this, and her response was "if they think they can get the same service as someone who pays my full rates, they have another thing coming - I don't have time for these negotiators, and this is the only way they will learn". I was glad she handled it this way, because this hobbyist will probably think twice before trying to negotiate with someone in the future. If you are thinking of listening to the fools that feel it is ok to negotiate, remember this, you will not get the same service as someone who pays the full rate - bottom line, there is not ONE provider out there that enjoys negotiators. They may agree to the reduced rate, but you will never get the same service as the one who pays her asking rate. Please stop trying to justify that it is ok to negotiate - you are just digging a bigger hole. Plus you are showing us your true colors. If you think that those that have not replied have not seen your idiotic justifications as to why you can, you are on the permanent do not book list. We all have one - are you on that list? To the gents that have come out and clearly shown that it is not ok to negotiate, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Just because we offer specials from time to time, it does not mean you can further reduce our rates. If you can't afford her, or have that mentality of "I want to get the lowest rate possible", please leave those of us alone and move on.

For those that are less flexible, I enjoy the side by side missionary. Not sure what this is called. He is on his side, I am on my back, with my legs over his hips. This way, he can enter me, and our faces are close to each other at the same time. I find the older guys like this.

Yes, generally this means they provide both massage services and full service. However, if they are providing both, they advertise in the SP section.

Thank you Frederictonman. Maybe you could do a recommendation? What name does she go by?

I am sorry of your first experience. I do not know anything about this lady. She seems to be so new that there are no prior threads about her. Hopefully you will have better luck with ladies who have recommendations here. BP can be a hit or miss, so maybe try some of the lovely ladies who advertise here.

Definitely lakes - Jaws really spooked me as a kid, so can't really deal with oceans. The salt water too - when you swallow it, wow barf. I also choose lakes over rivers. Don't like leaches and eels. NB has some of the best lakes out there so I love it here for that reason.

Thanks. I am allowed to use this wireless connection, so asking management to fix a problem is not the issue, identifiying what the problem is to them so they can fix it. Their computer works on their router, (or so they say), and my computer only has problems at certain times. Right now it is working just fine - no issues today, but other days, I just can't hook in. BTW, I don't know what my mac address would be. I am on an IBM computer.

The signal quality is Excellent - all bars lit up. It says "wireless network connection" - Connected You are currently connected to: XXX - no internet connection. As I said, sometimes I have no problems and other times it just won't connect, no matter where I sit. Thanks for the tip!

However, purchasing a house is quite a bit different then services of a provider. I would be very careful about comparing purchasing a house to purchasing time with a provider. Purchasing a house is an inanimate object - a service provider is providing a service. Who goes into McDonalds, and says, hey, a burger at Burger King is cheaper, so I want a Big Mac and want to pay what Burger King charges. Those that negotiate, also want EVERYTHING included for the lower rate. Those that say they only want a BJ also want once they get there to kiss, finger and greek for the lower rate. This is why we get so upset with those that try to negotiate. Even after being told not to negotiate, these guys will try to make to make the provider feel bad about her rates and say "that's too high, please can I get a deal?" In this business, and probably the only business that I am aware of, negotiating is never ok. Just don't do it.