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  1. You blame the screening? but its about non payment. If they dont go around stealing sex work (wonder what other label an act like this could be.. starts w an R and ends in ape) then their name would have been held in strict confidence as thars best for a providers business, but the person who has been named breached trust and thats what happens when you breach trust. Also, why i dont accept e transfers bc this ladies payment was most likely 'stolen' by way of disputing a transfer after services rendered. Ladies get your cash upfront and dont leave your bag unattended, ive heard of guys taking the cash back out of a girls bag when they left the room without it. The gentlemen ive seen would never.. but alas it happens sometimes. Sounds like both parties were palying a dangerous game and they got burned for it.
  2. Hi everyone! I am just popping on to wish you all a (better late than never) Happy Canada Day!πŸ€β€οΈπŸ€β€οΈπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ I hope you all enjoyed the weather and the festivities yesterday! πŸŽ†πŸŽ‡πŸ§¨ We were so fortunate to have the weather we did! πŸ€—πŸ₯³ β˜†β˜†β˜† Wondering about my availability? I will be taking appointments after July 12, message me for more info or to book!β˜†β˜†β˜† Sugar Kayne πŸ’‹
  3. Its up to each individual to consider if a providers deposit is reasonable for them or not. I dont tell prospective clients what my red flags are 🀨🀨🀨 and I advise other ladies reading this to also not share what their red flags are. Just think about it for a second here... If we teach people how to circumvent our safety methods, then we dont have those safety methods available to protect us from anyone who means us harm! Most people mean us no harm but it only takes one and I'm not making it easier on anyone to get through my barriers to entry. I believe my screening and booking process has been nearly perfected over time and keeps me nice and safe. I'd just as soon not have to find new ways to spot potential danger. All that being said, Most people who thorougly read the forum discussions are not going to have to worry about setting off a ton of red flags to even the most safety- consious providers. A few things you can do without taking away SP safety measures are: 1) this ones easy... dont mean them any harm!! (Duh?) LolπŸ˜‹ 2) read the "new to this" FAQ page -dm me if you cant find it and i will link you to it but try to find it on your own first 3) Most ladies share etiquette tips on their websites or ad posts for how to approach them in the way they prefer. Follow those and you should be more than okayπŸ€— Sx
  4. We can help people by linking to this thread. Teach em to fish 🐟 πŸ‘πŸ»
  5. Welp, this thread was definitely hijacked 🀣 That said, I recall reading somewhere on lyla (i think it was in the how to spot fakes thread by @Greenteal in the New To This section) that generic, have you seen her posts arent allowed anymore, anyway... πŸ™ƒ
  6. There is so little info out there. An interview was done of one male escort going by the name of Sam Gaines. Try giving that a good read? You may have better luck getting a good answer to this if you repost in the main area of the new to this section https://www.lyla.ch/forum/157-new-to-this-things-you-should-know/) , or even the discussion section of your local area.
  7. Polite gentlemen are my absolute favorite! And, while I respect others and myself -and require the same (hence my avid love of gentlemen), I dont think so highly of myself that I believe Im a rare breed in that way around here!! Most of the lyla ladies directly speak of respect in their ads πŸ’― Fair warning: I can smell a fake though so you have to be genuinely polite and respectful, not using niceties to mask arrogance. For any new SWs here, if you want to but dont know how to yet, read Clays posts closely and you will find examples of this so you too can learn to spot the fake gentlemen. They dont come around here often, or last long here! Thank you to Clay for the educational examples provided here, such a prince... Last words from me on this are directly for all the impeccable gentlemen of Lyla; I adore you ALL and what better time to extend my heartfelt thanks to each of you for making being part of this industry worth the toll it sometimes takes. Every industry has its downside, and you all are definitely top the list of upsides! Cheers πŸ₯‚ S.
  8. This sounds like what youd expect from traditional dating. The fact is that it IS unusual in the SW industry. Thats why providers give details about their look and service prior to bookings. Hesitant clients can ask to negotiate a fee beforehand that if you meet and dont want to go through the whole encounter, the client gives the lady some cash - not the whole amount but enough to compensate. Thats how we navigate the fine line between risk 4 the gent and risk 4 the lady when it comes to in person "chemistry tests"
  9. It says a lot, not that it needed to be said, that people are still posting even after shes gone πŸ₯² Lydia sure left a mark, and its not the same here without her πŸ’”
  10. Okay hear me out because I may have spanked @Quietfun only 2 hours ago when I posted this in the similar post he made about 2 weeks ago but I may have to change my position somewhat because of what I experienced only 2 hours later Here's what I originally had to say on the topic: Sugar Kayne Posted 2 hours ago Its pretty simple.. I ask for deposits now because im done being scammed out of time and effort, as well as revealing the location of my discreet place of business. So many clients dont even bother to show up for appointments, or theyre new and get cold feet, or they suddenly have been called out of town for work right before the appointment. Im sorry you fell prey to hopefully a hard to spot fake, but the thing is: If you are no good at spotting fakes, you should learn how to spot them instead of expecing people to change their business model. Like, the entitlement!! Id be shocked if youve been scammed by a verified provider here that seems legit and has recommendations from various established client accounts. But even if it did happen that would be the rare exception and they wouldnt pull off such a scam for long here on lyla. If you dont want to do your homework, dont be upset you get a bad grade lol Others suggested seeing providers that dont ask for deposits. You couldve done that without posting. You just want special treatment and/or a place to complain. I do feel bad for some of the people who get scammed, like elderly and other vulnerable groups of people, but this industry is no worse than any other for scams. There are email scams, phone scams, tax scams, puppy scams, to name a few They often prey on the most vulnerable. You are unfairly blaming the industry, and the providers in it, for your own mistakes. You arent even complaining about scammers themselves, who arent actual providers!! Youre not here going "screw that introverted incel of a man who pretended to be a SW and tricked me, scammers should be punished by law" or anything. Youre really out here slamming the legit SWers for not making thenselves more vulnerable so you can avoid the risk of being scammed instead of just doing your research! No one has to give a deposit, but if most or all the providers are asking for one, is it that far fetched to think that we are doing so for a good reason? No, its not. I have to get ready when someone books, but they dont have to show up. Sure they dont get service but I cant get my time, effort or discretion back. It shouldnt cost those people NOTHING when it costs me so much. Maybe if I asked for 50 or even 100%, i could see that being reason for me as a provider to not follow through w an appointment, unless I was travelling. A nominal deposit ensures the providers time isnt wasted. I put a lot of time into being at my best for my clients and Id hate to stop doing so bc I cant afford the time to shower and primp anymore since no shows wasted all my time for the day. Travelling companions almost always ask for deposits, from new people, at least, and they seem to be doing just fine and so do their clients who do deposits. I dont think its an industry problem. Is it a CRA problem that scams pretend to be them? Correct me if im wrong, but I havent noticed them changing their policy due to scams. They put out public service announcements educating the public how to spot fakes. I cant charge your credit card like your doctor or dentist when you dont show up for your appointment or cancel last minute. I gotta do something, and not asking for a deposit and getting the barrage of no shows again, isnt the answer. Maybe you should write a post berating all the clients who book and dont show up instead; they are the ones who ruined it for you, not the service providers that are just trying to find legitimate clients. Posted 2 hours ago sorry for my bad copy n paste job. Here is the link to the original post I still stand by most of what I said but I got this wierd scam message my own self not 2 hours later lmao and even though it's easy to spot as fake, I feel compelled to admit that i seriously underestimated just how rampant the sheer volume of scams are. I definitely will, in fact, be re thinking my own deposit strategy because I can see both sides for sure there's way too many scams to require deposits indiscriminately.. there's a middle ground and I'll find one that works for me and my clients cause yeah here's the weird text thing I got I took a screenshot and attached. Hope it shows up
  11. Its pretty simple.. I ask for deposits now because im done being scammed out of time and effort, as well as revealing the location of my discreet place of business. So many clients dont even bother to show up for appointments, or theyre new and get cold feet, or they suddenly have been called out of town for work right before the appointment. Im sorry you fell prey to hopefully a hard to spot fake, but the thing is: If you are no good at spotting fakes, you should learn how to spot them instead of expecing people to change their business model. Like, the entitlement!! Id be shocked if youve been scammed by a verified provider here that seems legit and has recommendations from various established client accounts. But even if it did happen that would be the rare exception and they wouldnt pull off such a scam for long here on lyla. If you dont want to do your homework, dont be upset you get a bad grade lol Others suggested seeing providers that dont ask for deposits. You couldve done that without posting. You just want special treatment and/or a place to complain. I do feel bad for some of the people who get scammed, like elderly and other vulnerable groups of people, but this industry is no worse than any other for scams. There are email scams, phone scams, tax scams, puppy scams, to name a few They often prey on the most vulnerable. You are unfairly blaming the industry, and the providers in it, for your own mistakes. You arent even complaining about scammers themselves, who arent actual providers!! Youre not here going "screw that introverted incel of a man who pretended to be a SW and tricked me, scammers should be punished by law" or anything. Youre really out here slamming the legit SWers for not making thenselves more vulnerable so you can avoid the risk of being scammed instead of just doing your research! No one has to give a deposit, but if most or all the providers are asking for one, is it that far fetched to think that we are doing so for a good reason? No, its not. I have to get ready when someone books, but they dont have to show up. Sure they dont get service but I cant get my time, effort or discretion back. It shouldnt cost those people NOTHING when it costs me so much. Maybe if I asked for 50 or even 100%, i could see that being reason for me as a provider to not follow through w an appointment, unless I was travelling. A nominal deposit ensures the providers time isnt wasted. I put a lot of time into being at my best for my clients and Id hate to stop doing so bc I cant afford the time to shower and primp anymore since no shows wasted all my time for the day. Travelling companions almost always ask for deposits, from new people, at least, and they seem to be doing just fine and so do their clients who do deposits. I dont think its an industry problem. Is it a CRA problem that scams pretend to be them? Correct me if im wrong, but I havent noticed them changing their policy due to scams. They put out public service announcements educating the public how to spot fakes. I cant charge your credit card like your doctor or dentist when you dont show up for your appointment or cancel last minute. I gotta do something, and not asking for a deposit and getting the barrage of no shows again, isnt the answer. Maybe you should write a post berating all the clients who book and dont show up instead; they are the ones who ruined it for you, not the service providers that are just trying to find legitimate clients.
  12. Guys, her last day was the 18th so I'm doubting she has seen any posts past that point
  13. Thats what I started doing, requiring a nominal amount (not 50%, only $50) as a deposit via amazon GC before making plans. It stings not getting the extra 50 in cash, but Ive seen a huge drop in no shows so its worth it. And I enjoy that its anonymous for both parties. I just get the claim code and put it on my account and make sure it is added to my balance prior to establishing dates. Ive never tried (now that i think of it I just might try) but I think its safe to say theres no easy way for the gc purchaser to see what amazon account a gift card was applied to. I dont know for certain but I highly doubt that even contacting amazon support would result in them being able to give that personal info, even if the nosy client tried to say it was a scam, amazon would very likely ONLY give that info to authorities and ONLY on request. Im personally not booking without it any more. Deposits from everyone, and ID from new people. Pretty much just what sarah alex said in her post. The lost time costs me more than 50 dollars. And it helps being a legit provider bc Im not in it for just the 50 πŸ˜‰ thats simply my new assurance policy that its worth all the time and effort I put in beforehand, which I cant get back. Wish i had been doing this since day 1 πŸ˜…
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