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  1. Posted

    On 9/14/2023 at 4:41 PM, RayRenpelle said:

    In my opinion this whole thread should be removed. Fake or not PRIVACY and SAFETY of both clients and companions are paramount and location, in whatever form, should never be mentioned. Even the general area. It is something private between client and companion! 

    i'd argue it's a good lesson in Ethics, and many need to learn it.

  2. Posted

    On 9/12/2023 at 3:54 PM, Coco1 said:

    I did say I was done with this one, but I feel I’ve been goaded into replying. A few points:

    1. The ad in question was a FAKE. 

    2. In no way did I ever post someone’s “specific location.” A specific location is a street name and house number. Rightly or wrongly I stated a street and a hotel’s initials. Again the ad was a FAKE like 95% of LL. 

    3. You’ve done nothing but solidify my personal policy of not seeing providers that post on here. I won’t say all, but most service providers that post on here are well past their best before date. Young, attractive, and in demand providers are far too busy fielding inquiries and seeing clients, than to feel the need to inject themselves into discussions on here. 

    4. Again the ad was a FAKE, this whole conversation is much ado about nothing. 🤦‍♂️

    man, you are way out of line, check your fragile ego and hear what is said.

  3. Posted

    On 8/14/2023 at 9:47 PM, guy1980 said:

    https://m.locanto.ca/kingston/ID_6518689519/Free-tonight-6-late.html
     

    posted before about Darcy strawberry and just want to double check. Been very interested in meeting her and she has been occasionally posting incall in a apt lately but wants you to pay first in the lobby then park in the visitor parking. Offered to park then pay her in the room and she declined saying only option was to pay in the lobby. Just smells like scam to me like snatch and grab and curious anyone met her and could provide some insight 

    That setup is cause for concern, but the real scam is irrevocable gift cards. You get to the lobby an then are told to give "her' the gift card number = cash in the bank = before meeting anyone. 100% fake, $$ to Russian Mafia.

     

    So the fact you met her is much better, but still could scam you. Think of ways she can guarantee you too?

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  5. Posted

    On 5/7/2023 at 10:05 PM, SamanthaKnoxx said:

    I just came here to say: 

     

    OP came into my inbox asking me to offer mt insight because they enjoyed my previois comments on other posts - when I asked if they wanted to tip me for the emotional labour they declined. 
     

    so I came here to say: 

     

    if you are concerned about exploitation of sxworkers 

     

    Dont ask them to provide uncompensated emotional and physical labour, skill, knowledge and esp knowledge from lived experience , for your own selfish desires. 
     

    this topic is a wild thing to be debating - one that swer advocate orgs and swers have dissected many times. One that Marxists have discussed - all labour under capitalism is exploitative. 

     

    Humans are social creatures, we not only crave but require intimate human connection - and for many people that includes sexual intimacy 

     

    anyways I had been pondering this for awhile - because I was so disgusted by OP for reaching out to me specifically to interact with their post & them having zero inclination of showing any consideration for that request that I needed to figure out whether or not this was even worth saying. 
     

    Dming me and asking me to contribute on this topic is a perfect example of clients - or non sex workers exploiting sex workers time energy and lived experiences to their own benefit. 
     

    I shall let that simmer - and if anyone is interested in reading my complete thoughts on this topic I will be releasing a private section  to my website for lovers of mine that will include a selection of writings that I plan to publish. L

    Hot topics galore dissected by yours truly. 
     

    I also want to not I am sure OP's intentions werent to be disrespectful or exploitative.... but intent and impact arent always aligned. 
     

    take this as a learning moment!

     

    also!!!! sex workers want DECRIMINALIZATION not legalization. Legalization would look similar to cannabis in that it is still criminalized and for many people that creates barriers oppression and violence. 
    but what it does allow is for the church and state to be more involved and create things like "licensing" which can result in swers being denied access to other countries, it being used in court , esp family court, being targetted by police & also being targetted for working without a license. 
     

    Toronto has a stripping license - $500 

    oh and a massage license $100 

     

    yearly. 
     

    niagara falls $400 

    vaughn $250 

    calgary $300 

    and you cant get that licensing if you have any priors and that can include  charges  of soliciting  - which for some dancers has been them shaking hands with a club patron prior to the laws around physical contact changing. 
     

    I could go on and on and on . Ans I read so so so many problematic nareative in OPs initialt comment... alas I have a scene to film so , have beautiful time and maybe consider researching sex worker activists, orgs and listening to us when we talk about these things - which we have done, many times, accross many platforms, across generations. 

     

     

    I understand why you feel thus way but I clearly did not offer to tip anyone. Nor did I asked to be paid for sharing my thoughts. You have chosen to be active here often. It is your choice to share your point of view. Best wishes to you.

  7. Posted · Edited by Orpheo12

    On 5/31/2020 at 6:22 PM, sexyendeavour said:

    Brooke is the most amazing woman I have ever meet, everything she says is true. If I had the opportunity I would spend every day with her. I cannot recommend her enough, she is perfect in every way. She is 100% real and so are her pictures. 

    I have met Brooke and she is exactly as she appears in her ads. She is mature, friendly, and fun to be with, with no concerns about her legitimacy. I am posting this because some seem to doubt the source of her recommendations. She also has a profile here in Lyla, as @Brookes.

    807-355-5061. Call, she does not text.

     

  8. Posted

    On 4/14/2023 at 10:16 PM, Allie Zeon said:

    Hi,

    This is for the first time i am able to read it in full without distraction.

    Ethical and norm of our society vary depending on the region.  If you happen to travel to Samoa, you might be surprised when someone ask you openly and honestly to have sex with you.  Over there it's part of the norm.  I was surprised when a man approached me to have SEX few hours after i land on the island for the first time.  On the second day, i have few more offers, on third day i have already become a queen of Samoa lol.

    It's part of their culture since they see sex as something as natural as eating their favorite casava.

    Sex is illegal in certain countries because the "conservative, old" value of the society from religious points of view to other ethical points of view that may contradict this profession to exist legally, yet men still come to see escort discreetly. And as you mentioned, the sex trafficking and pimping make it even harder and complicated for this profession to be legalized.  Urgh.

    Good things,

    It's proven that decriminalization and/or legalization actually decrease the cases of sex violence.

    It's proven, from my personal experience that married men can stay married because of us, escorts.

    It's proven that sex, human touch and good communication in bed elevate our physical and mental health

    And so on...and so on.

    So yes, legalization and decrimination of escorting are the way to go.

    We are blessed here in Canada.

    As a client, i don't think police will bother you either if you see a legitimate, well reputable escort.  

    We don't kiss and tell anyway so your secret is safe with us.

    To sum it up,

    Sex itself is not an addiction.  It's part of our basic needs.

    Sex along with intimate human touch and genuine good conversations definitely is therapeutic. We all need that.

    The third one is more complex but we want to aim as a benevolent service indeed

    Happy hunting 😃

    Going back home to NB tomorrow!

    Allie 

    You're awesome, Allie.

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  9. Posted · Edited by Orpheo12
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    3 hours ago, xoCaptivatinggCleo said:

    Another HUGE one is herpes, and its terrifying how easy you can contract it. I don't feel like its anything to be ashamed of, but its important to know the risks, and what it means if you do catch something like herpes or HIV because while they are manageable they are not curable.  They don't test for herpes in routine STI/STD checks either, you need to specifically ask for it, and a lot of people don't know that. Transmission rates without breakouts are low, but not 100% risk free, people who have asymptotic shedding can transmit herpes to your mouth via **** - and lets face it, the more sexually active you are - or the more clients you see the higher the risks become! You can also still contract it genitally from having sex with condoms. I follow a lot of forums on Reddit about sexual health, sex workers, and STI/STDS and some of the stories are so sad. Regular check ups are SO important... not just when you're suspicious of something - and its important to ask questions and talk about it! Even if someone gives you a recent blood test for something there is a risk its not showed up in their blood yet, or they lie about being with someone from the time they were tested to when they see you ! 

    For me, I get BV so easily ! Just changing condoms can trigger it for me, or having a bath which is the worst hahah I love a good bubble bath... and normally my BV comes with a big ol UTI but I find since taking cranberry everyday and vit C (and no more baths 😞 ) I don't get them as much

    TY for the discussion. I did not know STI/STD screening did not include Herpes routinely. But I question putting it in the same sentence with HIV. Herpes is very contagious when in outbreak but is not deadly apart from raising the risk of cervical cancer. Is there a vaccine against it readily-available?

    HIV is treatable but potentially deadly, and far harder to transmit.

    I have to lookup the meaning of BV. Sorry it troubles you so much.

  10. Posted

    9 hours ago, Archynorth2014 said:

    Morning,

    Since Amy pulled her ads, I was under the impression she was taking a break.  I didn't want to bother her if she was but is she still seeing clients?

    Thanks,

    AN

    I have no knowledge either way, but I think you are making the correct interpretation. If I hear from her I will post the news.

  14. Posted

    On 5/1/2019 at 10:23 PM, wtfisthis01 said:

    Yes we are talking about a different AMY.  Going forward I should probably used the last 4 digits of the advertisers number as an indicator so as not to confuse people.  From all I have heard you are a very well reviewed provider that comes highly recommended.

    Local Sweet Amy (1026) definitely comes recommended!

  17. Posted

    On 1/8/2023 at 1:51 PM, philly88 said:

    I'll be in Thunder Bay soon for business and I see some great reviews about Rose and Kayla and both look amazing to me. And then I never met Amy in Thunder Bay and she too is very tempting. 

    Anyone recommend who I should see? I'll be back and forth from TBay throughout the year and I'd prefer to find an great regular SP to connect with when I'm there. Reliable, sexy and fun are what I'm looking for. thanks 

    I know of four TB locals reviewed in Lyla. I have not met Kayla but trust that she is terrific. I recommend those I have met. Of these, only Rose has ads in LL at this time.

    I found Rose very sexy, but too young for me. So I have sought more mature providers.

    Amy is delightful -- all I dreamed of and is just as she appears, but she has gone silent since 2022. She has/had many regulars.

    I enjoyed my time with Brook. She is as she appears though a bit older in former LL ads than her ad states as SweetySweet at VIPFavours.

    There is one other local I trust is real but I forget her name just now. Susan?

    IMO Leolist for TB is at least 50% fakes (I did thorough searches), and likely closer to 80% fake. More and more are online only. So the only other IRL escorts I would trust (but I cannot afford them) are those who tour with years of recommendations like Bray and Keissey Hennessy.

    Amber K. Diamond also appears legit but I distrust not having any photos.

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  20. Posted

    On 4/8/2023 at 1:00 PM, Berlin Moss said:

    Fair enough. I honestly don't know enough about neuroscience to comment on that. I do know that a lot of times, what we consider "behavioural addictions" are often solved through different treatments than those typically used for substance use disorder, or even gambling (which is the only behavioural addiction that is recognized in the DSM 5). Oftentimes, these "addictive" behaviours actually become less problematic on their own when the root causes, such as low self-esteem, are addressed.

    Underlying my inclusion of addiction and compulsive behavior in the same Venn circle is the suggestion made by many including Dr. Gabor Mate that such learned adaptations are rooted as reactions to relieve the pain of emotional/psychological trauma. The hypothesis is that everyone has experienced intense suffering. Some of us have matured enough to not be as vulnerable to compulsive/addictive temptations, but IMO no-one is immune. Given sufficient negative stimulation (a shyte-storm) we all may find ourselves driven to seek something for relief.

    I am not denying the facts of physiological addition to mind-altering substances, but suggest that indulging in such substances begins as part of the same pathology. When we cannot (or are not wise enough to) access healthier forms of relief from suffering, our habitual use of a familiar (but riskier) source of relief conditions us to weakened impulse control and/or the onset of physiological addiction.

    If I may return to the original focus on asking if the provision of sexual services relieves or aggravates suffering, it is a complex question. Sex involves the activation of instinctual parts of our brain similar to an addiction, but has far deeper meaning to us than the numbing, distraction, or euphoria of many addictions. Sex fulfills a natural and wonderful human instinct, but is also bound up with our deepest desire for belonging, acceptance, relationship, affection, and bonding. Sexual services cannot truly be all these things, but is a surrogate for them. By seeking the surrogate does a client help themselves, or create a deeper wound because the sexual acts provided were not a genuine expression of love between two or more human beings?  

    I had a psychiatrist once whose loving manner felt genuine, and I asked him about it. He said that as a professional he provides his services with genuine compassion -- with love, which is not the same thing as being "in love." I believe that professional companions may be able to do this as well; but it is not easy. Each is a human being with their own issues and experiences. This is why I find it so important to respect and boundaries each sets, and why intimacy like genuine kissing is uncommon.

    I have found that as a client when my companion welcomes my tenderness and compassion into the room, our time together is truly wonderful because I can give "with love" as well as receive. 

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  22. Posted

    4 hours ago, Berlin Moss said:

    Humans are wired for connection and are naturally drawn towards physical contact with others...If there are people who are willing to provide a supply for the demand, that's not inherently exploitative just on its own....

    ...I would argue that while sex and human contact can have a therapeutic benefit, it is a far cry from an actual form of therapy. The key difference here being that therapy has a mindfully structured and goal-oriented treatment protocol that aligns with specific methodologies...

    ... Because "sex addiction" fails to activate the same parts of the brain that typical addictions do. It does not appear in the DSM-5 as a diagnosable mental health condition... The difference here is the internalized shame that "sex addicts" themselves have attached to the specific activity. 

    [But] there are many people that engage in sex and masturbation to the point that it does interfere with their day to day life. This is more effectively treated as a symptom of a larger issue, rather than the primary issue itself. It can also be viewed as a compulsive behaviour. The importance of distinguishing between this and a true addiction is that the treatment procedures for addiction vs. lack of impulse control look very different.

    Thank you for your rich response. You name many nuances that deepen my own understanding. For now I refrain from further comment, hoping that others will engage with your observations,

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  23. Posted · Edited by Orpheo12
    minor typos

    My experience of compensating companions for their time has had me wrestling with ethical dilemmas. I'd like to share my thoughts and invite constructive comments.

    Why is Sex Work illegal?

    Our culture heightens sexual cravings by sexualizing people and products. We are conditioned to crave intimacy as an expression of our wholeness as human beings, and when under other stresses, a lack of healthy opportunities for intimacy can become an unmet need causing suffering and heightening the risk of mental illness and self-harming. So an argument can be made that Companions who provide such services are relieving suffering, and providing a kind of therapy. This has been my experience. I have appreciated the humanity and respect shared in my interactions as a client.

    But I also recognize that scratching the itch often makes it worse. Once a lonely heart take the huge risk of seeing a companion, a positive experience intensifies the craving for more, more, more. So there is an obvious parallel to other forms of addiction. Some former taboos, like the use of marijuana, have been legalized and its use is now largely benevolent. By removing the trade from the hands of illegal suppliers the acceptance of such use has also seen larger numbers of people having a net benefit; just as I will enjoy a glass of Zinfandel after this post.

    So if the provision of companionship can be genuinely therapeutic (relieving suffering), why does it continue to be regarded as illegal?

    There are many good reasons to regard sex work as an evil. Human trafficking is an evil. Getting vulnerable people hooked on hard drugs so they can be pimped out to feed their addition is an evil. Huge amounts of money are passing into the hand of criminals who thrive on hurting people by whatever means enhances their profit. So there are aspects of the industry that are and should be prosecuted as criminal.

    Under our present laws, selling sexual services is legal, but buying such services is illegal. For Sex Workers the legalization of providing services must be a great benefit, adding to the dignity and lessening the risk of choosing this profession. It is reasonable to criminalize those who seek their services?

    I would argue that because much of sex work still does involve horrific exploitation, the answer is not a simple "no." But the harms are greater because the trade is still illegal for those seeking it. Were it legal, and protected as a human right (both providing and seeking), the opportunities for criminal exploitation would lessen and the mortal outrage against such activities would become harder to sustain rationally.

    IMO, making sex work legal and regulated would be a positive step in the ethical evolution of our culture. Sex itself would become recognized as a healthy expression of human interactions rather than a dirty taboo, at least when paying for it.

    In my experience, the companions I have met have been lovely persons with their own agency, enjoying dignity and treating me with respect in my vulnerability. Thank you.

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  24. Posted

    On 11/14/2022 at 9:48 AM, Guest said:

         To be clear, I don't like using LL. No matter the number of providers serving in specific regions/cities, it's frustrating to use.

      That being said, it's not without some merit. When searching for more information about specific providers, it's far more effective as they allow pieces of information many other ads websites won't.

       As a business, I doubt their current situation will remain sustainable for many years. It's obvious C-36 and the BP seizure forced a lot of changes on their part. And with the current struggles of big tech suggested that  companies and cryptocurrencies, more changes are likely to come. Will likely come in the form of a reduction or ban of adult services ads or simply file for bankruptcy. I could be completely wrong about the outcome, but changes will come sooner than later.

        As for your study, I'm not gonna say you're wasting your time. But focusing on the negative and pointing out the obvious won't change the situation and eventual outcome.

        Would suggest alternative sources and services. There's nothing healthy in beating a dead horse.

    For the record this extended exchange was with a former very active member who appears to have deleted (or been booted) his (presumed gender) account. An earlier comment suggested that if LL is so bad why not use a different site. My witness is that in a small market like TB any other sites are underpopulated and stale. There may be 3-4 legit providers across all of them, in addition to one I know is legit who also advertises on LL. And my fav companion has disappeared.

    Thanks for holding the line @MissArtois

     

     

  25. Posted

    On 3/21/2023 at 1:05 PM, guy9999 said:

    I noticed there's a lot of great new girls not getting reviews. In fact, it seems very few people review on this site anymore at all. I'm not sure what the reason is but it seems to be becoming unreliable for finding reviews on new girls, and newer reviews for well established ones. While it's nice that more girls are posting their ads here, I think this site serves best as a way for both the customer and the provider to avoid bad experiences. That can only happen if more guys are reviewing when they have a good experience. I find it hard to believe that so few people are having a good time with any these women. If that was the case they would all be out of business! 

    I can't say for sure but it seemed to me that more people reviewed in the past. It would be great to see it become a more viable source. 

     

    IMO the moderators have abandoned the site, but it remains the best archive I know of valuable guidance. It's primary function is to enable those who do research to find it and make informed decisions. Otherwise, the scammers own everyone.

    Real recommendations do matter. My first was rejected because I was new, and the (wonderful) companion has disappeared. I do have recommendations for some Thunder Bay providers but all have established reputations with reviews here so no need to say "Me too!"

    (-- Amy, Rose, Brooke).

    IMO the lack of new recommendations is that total participation has fallen off. Lyla now functions as an excellent source for NS and NB. The clients who are here know, but the majority are never here at all. 

    Think about the hundreds or thousands being scammed every day. I have read very few warnings of scammers because there are so many, and 99.3% of victims never find Lyla or have the courage to admit being scammed if they did.

    The structure is excellent, and the intentions worthy, but without active moderators, no wonder Lyla is stagnating.

    But your core point it valid. If you are here and if you are able to recommend a SP, why not do so?

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