what is the differnce between an escort and a courtesan

[nelle 2165]

I guess this weather is keeping me bored. LOL

Me and my girlfriend were wondering!

What is the difference between a courtesan and and escort?

I know it's a silly question considering me and her are both sp's

But it's intrigueing to me. What is the difference as well what exactly is a courtesan ?

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

I always thought of a courtesan as being a "high class" escort, though sometimes I find the "high class" language to be pretentious.

 

I could be wrong, but I think in some cities "escorts" are licensed so some will avoid using the word, and use other words like companion or courtesan to by-step the law.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

Historically, a "courtesan" was associated with the royal "courts", where her clientele/patrons consisted of royalty and the nobility. So a courtesan would have had to have fit-in with this upper-class milieu.

 

I presume that nowadays, as Megan says, the word is meant to convey the sense of being "high-class". By calling herself a "courtesan", a lady would seem to be implying that she will treat her clients like nobility - and of course that her clients will be expected to treat her in a courtly fashion in return. Just my impression.

[Grass_Hopper 18263]

I consider myself as a courtesan not for being more high class then the others, but by the kind of session we have.

 

I believe a prostitute is there to fill your sexual needs in exchange of money.

 

An escort is there to spend quality time with you. She may have some restrictions.

 

A courtesan is there to seduce you in every way possible, not to be seduce, but to fulfill ALL your needs and fantasies. Unlike the escort that may have some restrictions.

[April Dawn 12207]

I consider myself a prostitute. Personally the other words are just window dressing like calling a session one of a multitude of different descriptors. I would offer the same top notch service no matter what I decided to call myself because I am a perfectionist :p The only difference I can see is some places require you to have an escorting license so calling yourself something else circumvents that.

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[jafo105 39057]

Here are some links to Wikipedia that may help:

 

Courtesan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtisan

 

Escort / Call-Girl:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_girl

 

Girl Friend Experience (GFE):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience

[Kubrickfan 12836]

My first reaction was simply to reply "about $100/hour" (smile), but I realized that may go over not so good here.

 

In fairness, the ladies here that use that term sincerely do mean to imply a higher level of perceived classiness and style in terms of the services they offer. That's probably as close as you can get to a working definition.

[Grass_Hopper 18263]

So, according to Wiki, I would be a courtesan because I have a higher level of education, and gattering wealthy gents? But there's some escorts that are in the same situation as I am. The difference between them and me is that I have no boundaries (excluding life-threatning behaviours), and they may have some.

 

The only part where I agree is when they talk about "chevalier servant", wich means serving, and NOT servicing.

 

Us, courtesans, do not provide a single service as prostitue (sex) or escort (company). We just please. The most eloquent exemple I can find is Sheherazade.

[fortunateone 156618]

Escorts are not necessarily independent, may work for agencies. Courtesans would always be independent, advertising for a specific higher end clientele, looking for longer visits, possibly starting off with dinner dates, weekends, etc, as opposed to the half hour or hour options. In fact, a courtesan probably has a minimum of 3 hours, and also would be unlikely to have a list of services available. Being independent, she is picking and choosing who she sees. An escort may be sent out on a call by an agent, having no part in who she sees or doesn't see. A courtesan would be expected to be a brilliant conversationalist, will most likely be older (at least 25, probably late 20's MINIMUM), and either well educated or able to talk on a variety of subjects at an intellectual level. Also be discrete, well groomed, sophisticated in looks and dress and able to spend time in public without everyone looking at her and saying "yup, that's an sp". An escort may be able to hold a conversation, but typically she doesn't need to be able to do more than speak on more superficial level to be an escort, pass the time, etc. Doesn't mean an escort/sp isn't capable of that level of conversation, stimulation, but primarily she isn't banking nm attracting that wealthy client who is looking for all that.

 

I think the distinctions are subtle, because at the end of the day most everyone says a provider is a provider and that means sexual services, but some of the time the higher end (to use a phrase) are attracting clients that are looking for more companionship than sexual menu items, and it is not unusual for them to only spend social time with sps providing this level.

 

I think Samantha Evans is a good example of a courtesan style provider, for my opinion lol.

[roamingguy 300291]

Well for me, the labels really don't matter. I'm looking at meeting a lady, and that's how I view the encounters, time spent with a lady.

Probably doesn't help the discussion, but I'm less label focused than I am on meeting and spending time with a lady

RG

[April Dawn 12207]

I'm less label focused than I am on meeting and spending time with a lady

RG

 

Great answer!

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[swegin 5885]

I'd like to promote the use of the all-encompassing term "escourtesan".

[jafo105 39057]

It gives you a general idea of what to expect from the lady (education, smarts, wisdom, etc...). This can also be seen by her donation requirements.

 

For me, it is like getting together with a friend for tea and to talk. Or, On occasion, a dinner date at a nice restaurant. For me it is all about the companionship - physical intimacy is an added bonus.

[chavez 641]

Hi Tina,

Like everyone else here I will give you my understanding.

A good escort offers her mind and body in a mutually acceptable relationship with usually includes sex but not nessicarily. She provides her time her time and companionship in a non exclusive arrangement for an acceptable fee. Hopefuly she will recieve as much as she gives and grows with each encounter.

A courtesan may provide many of the same things but to a smaller and more exclusive clientel. Her fee, by nessesity, because of her limite clientel, may be a little higher, so I fear that ladies that want to charge a little more try to use the descriptove name " coutesan". She may consider herself a little more in the driver's seat in this relationship. ( ie, althought she may a few clients, her clients usually have only 1 courtesan). She may consider herself a bit of an expert in relationship matters and actuallyfeal herself beyond learning.

Given my definition you must know which I prefer. I have a few years on you , but I am not done either learning or teaching. Give me a ladys that does both. Although I am never described as cheap, I have no desire to be financially dominated. Exclusivity sound good but I am too much a socialist and free love advocate to buy into that either.

Of course you need to create your own definitions, but those are my thoughts....red chicas

[milfhunter1967 2154]

It's also a form of marketing, the SP can choose to put out the"Girl next door" "horny soccer mom" or "elite courtesan" image. I personally would have a problem with a 19 year old elite courtesan but a 19 year old girl next door would work.

 

Each lady has to choose a strategy for advertising she is comfortable with and go with it. What works in Toronto may not work in Winnipeg, Age for example in some city's younger is better and vice versa.

[Andee 220524]

To me these are just labels that can be easily manipulated. I have known ladies who referred to themselves as Courtesans in their marketing and they were far from the text book definition.

 

I like to refer to myself as a call girl or escort. But in the end, I do not delude myself. I am a prostitute and I am not afraid to use that word or sex worker. I have even been known to call myself a hooker amongst friends.

 

I believe it's not what we call ourselves, it's the whole package of what we present and what we deliver.

[April Dawn 12207]

To me these are just labels that can be easily manipulated. I have known ladies who referred to themselves as Courtesans in their marketing and they were far from the text book definition.

 

I like to refer to myself as a call girl or escort. But in the end, I do not delude myself. I am a prostitute and I am not afraid to use that word or sex worker. I have even been known to call myself a hooker amongst friends.

 

I believe it's not what we call ourselves, it's the whole package of what we present and what we deliver.

 

 

That is what I was trying to say but much more eloquently!

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[roamingguy 300291]

I've said it before, I'll say it again, but differently

"Ladies, you are ladies, not labels"

RG

[nelle 2165]

I finally had time to read all the responses to my post. I really like the links for wikapedia as well , Very interesting.

I have to agree with most of you, In the end (whether you view yourself as a courtesan, Sp,Escort,Call girl, Prostitiute) We all take our clothes off and do the same thing , \We just have different motives.

For example.. A girl who stands on the street and sells her body for 20 - 40 dollars , Well her motive is simple , She wants to do it to get high ..nothing more. Girls on here and Ec and wherever else , Well we sell our bodies for 200, 300 but our motive is to make a living and enjoy being an Sp.

I provide the same service as what a " so called courtesan would provide)

I am very intellegent ( those sometimes it doesn't show in my granmar lol Angela as well as milfhunter love to point out). I can discuss anything from History , politics etc. I provide anything from seducing men with a sensual erotic session or sastisfying thier manly needs by getting right down to it. You can take me ouit in public to nice establishments or you can view me as your own personal pornstar .

Either way I think we all are capable of providing the same kind of service . It just depends on how much you are into it.

Those who have met me know I am of more a humble nature , so I wouldn't go as far to say I am courtesan. I am an Sp and I hope most of you agree . A damn good one. To me a courtesan is a thing of the past, A madame du barry or even an Anne boylne) It was a women who serviced royality and nobility and sometimes gain power from it such as madame du barry and Anne boylne which in most cases lead to thier demise.

All said and done , this was a great thread and thanks for all the awesome responses

[milfhunter1967 2154]

I finally had time to read all the responses to my post. I really like the links for wikapedia as well , Very interesting.

 

I have to agree with most of you, In the end (whether you view yourself as a courtesan, Sp,Escort,Call girl, Prostitiute) We all take our clothes off and do the same thing , \We just have different motives.

For example.. A girl who stands on the street and sells her body for 20 - 40 dollars , Well her motive is simple , She wants to do it to get high ..nothing more. Girls on here and Ec and wherever else , Well we sell our bodies for 200, 300 but our motive is to make a living and enjoy being an Sp.

 

I provide the same service as what a " so called courtesan would provide)

I am very intellegent ( those sometimes it doesn't show in my granmar lol Angela as well as milfhunter love to point out). I can discuss anything from History , politics etc. I provide anything from seducing men with a sensual erotic session or sastisfying thier manly needs by getting right down to it. You can take me ouit in public to nice establishments or you can view me as your own personal pornstar .

 

Either way I think we all are capable of providing the same kind of service . It just depends on how much you are into it.

 

Those who have met me know I am of more a humble nature , so I wouldn't go as far to say I am courtesan. I am an Sp and I hope most of you agree . A damn good one. To me a courtesan is a thing of the past, A madame du barry or even an Anne boylne) It was a women who serviced royality and nobility and sometimes gain power from it such as madame du barry and Anne boylne which in most cases lead to thier demise.

 

All said and done , this was a great thread and thanks for all the awesome responses

 

Anne Boleyn :icon_rolleyes:

 

you just make it to easy sometimes:icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen:

[mod 135639]

Just so everyone knows... The titles of these area as " Courtesan / Escort Discussion " are because some jurisdictions (Winnipeg/Calgary/Barrie/Windsor... etc) all have municipal by-laws in place restricting "Escorts" from working in the city without a license. Since they define an escort as someone who "DATES" customers and they are not LEGALLY allowed to impose licensing for "PROSTITUTION" they are giving out municipal by law tickets to anyone advertising as a "ESCORT" but these tickets DO NOT hold up in court if you do not use the word ESCORT in your ad.

 

If they try to use CERB as an example of you working as a "ESCORT" you simply say "I am not a escort by the cities definition I am a courtesan/prostitute and the city is not permitted to impose a license for prostitution as that would make them liable for living off the avails of prostitution" the judge will agree and force the city to drop the charges.

 

On escorts-canada we switched all the buttons from "Escorts" to "Service Providers" a number of years ago to help the ladies avoid being harassed by these by-law officers. They tried to say that the site was called "Escorts-Canada" so the ladies were all "Escorts" but it easily pointed out that other adult service providers including massage spa attendants and such also advertised on this site. We even went as far as placing this on the front page of escorts-canada.com

 

Definition of Escort

 

Definition of Escort, Service Provider, Callgirl, Etc... It's a big debate in Canada as local municipalities often wish to license "Escorts" but will not licence "prostitution". They know that it is the same thing but some people feel they are trying to exploit the laws and pass moral judgements. What do you think? Take a read at this page and add your comments!

Definition of Escort, Service Provider and Callgirl

 

Just thought some of you may want to know why we have both "escort" and "Courtesan" in the headlines. It's to help protect the ladies from these municipalities who are breaking the law and infringing on your rights!

[chavez 641]

Cat you defined your answer just as I see the question, and so much better than I could have. No doubt you have put a lot on thought into your answer and your answer helps me better understand my needs. Thank you....chicas