Have you ever worried...

[qwertyaccount 15793]

This all depends

For someone I find attractive and want to bend over,

I would try to setup some thing. I probaly would feel nervous just before the door opened.

 

For soemone I hate.......he he he.....revenge is a dish best served cold, the only reason I would meet is to verify that it is the person I hate before I make her life hell........

 

If it was one of my sister.....probally affraid for my life. man oh man could you image you sister opening the door, my sisters would hit first and ask questiion if I lived.

 

The changes of any of these happening are very slim so I will not hold my breath.

 

Jughead, Jughead, Jughead....

 

This can't be they way you really think.

 

What kind of nasty drugs were you on when you wrote this?

[jughead 45]

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[roamingguy 300291]

If anyone has taken what I have posted her the wrong way I AM TRUELY SORRY. SORRY that I was was not able to get my point across and that it came across the wrong way.

 

What's the right way to take your post, can't believe we all took it the wrong way

RG

[drlove 37202]

This all depends

For someone I find attractive and want to bend over,

I would try to setup some thing. I probaly would feel nervous just before the door opened.

 

For soemone I hate.......he he he.....revenge is a dish best served cold, the only reason I would meet is to verify that it is the person I hate before I make her life hell........

 

If it was one of my sister.....probally affraid for my life. man oh man could you image you sister opening the door, my sisters would hit first and ask questiion if I lived.

 

The changes of any of these happening are very slim so I will not hold my breath.

 

This type of behavior is downright shameful!

[jughead 45]

As I have said I am truely sorry of what I have posted.

I cannot take what I said back.

[Reuben Sandwich 13841]

As I have said I am truely sorry of what I have posted.

I cannot take what I said back.

 

I never fulful thought throught what I was posting and how i wouolld be taken. I was just stating 3 point of view that were not apperant anywhere else in this thread.

 

I have never been in this situation so how I would react.

 

I never stated the obvious relply of doing nothing because I felt that did not need to be stated again.

 

Did you really feel these points of view had to be stated? Just the idea of finding some enjoyment in making another persons life a living hell is cause for concern and some serious reflection on your outlook. These are real people here.

[jughead 45]

As was point out I totally agree that my comments were way out of line.

I can offer no excuse for what I posted.

I know that sorry does not cover what I have said.

But it is all that I can say.

[cat 262460]

jughead has apologized and that is all we can ask. Let's chalk this up to a learning experience, reminder for all of us and move on.

I have had several situations where I knew my client once I opened the door. Fortunately they had as many reasons to be discreet as I do so it worked. None of them sought me out knowing who I was, it was inevitable in the area I was working. It made for interesting meetings!

cat

[mrgreen760 37785]

If I think there is even a remote chance that I might know some one, I'll send my pix. Also gives the woman a chance to change her mind and run for the hills :)

 

Peace

MG

[Guest O** S**l]

Frankly, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I might be a little surprised initially, but between two individuals who are understanding and mature the situation could evolve into an even more exciting and mutally beneficial experience. One of my neighbours is drop dead gorgeous and a lovely lady so now I'm having fantasies about her and I in such an instance if it ever became a reality. I could deal with it!

[mrrnice2 157005]

If the door opened to me and it was in fact someone that I knew, my initial reaction would be one of surprise for sure. I expect that I would ask if I could come in to talk and of course ask at some point if she felt it would be a good idea or not to continue the date. Either of us could easily excuse ourselves from the situation and hopefully with good humour on all sides.

 

It is interesting that I did see an SP who from the moment she opened the door had an air of familiarity for me. She did not appear to react at all, and we did have a great time. I did ask in an email later on if she knew me and the response was a no, but I am still wondering to myself a bit. Hmmmm.

[roamingguy 300291]

Frankly, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I might be a little surprised initially, but between two individuals who are understanding and mature the situation could evolve into an even more exciting and mutally beneficial experience. One of my neighbours is drop dead gorgeous and a lovely lady so now I'm having fantasies about her and I in such an instance if it ever became a reality. I could deal with it!

 

There are two such women in my civilian life that I'd like seeing if they were also escorts...but I'd certainly, if this ever happened, let them know up front before we meet that we already know one another, and who I am. If after that they were still ok with an encounter, well I know damn well I'd have big time butterflies in my stomach waiting for the knock on the door, and I'd fall down answering the door, 'cause I'd really be weak in the knees.

RG

[drlove 37202]

 

It is interesting that I did see an SP who from the moment she opened the door had an air of familiarity for me. She did not appear to react at all, and we did have a great time. I did ask in an email later on if she knew me and the response was a no, but I am still wondering to myself a bit. Hmmmm.

 

Perhaps it's someone who you've seen around.... a bank teller, waitress, receptionist, retail worker etc..

[jughead 45]

I do understand that I was totally wrong to say what I did, and understand each of the very valid points that all of you have brought up as well. This is not what I think of women and there is nothing I can do to take back the words that I have said.

 

The ramifacations of exactly what I stated were not apparent to me until you all started to point them out, they were the further thing from my mind at the time. I did not mean to start a heated debate nor did I expect the type of comments that have been posted.

 

cat ... of all the comments you could have said I thank you for what you did decide to say.

 

I apploigize to every lady, every memeber of CERB of and to the MOD.

 

I have choosen not to try to explain my comments as I simple feel that most of you will not accept an explaination from me.

 

Thank you all for pointing out that this type of bs is not tollerated and should not be tollerated and that an attutide adjustment was in order for my inapporpreate comments. Although it does not change anything I have deleted them out of respect for the community.

[Guest O** S**l]

There are two such women in my civilian life that I'd like seeing if they were also escorts...but I'd certainly, if this ever happened, let them know up front before we meet that we already know one another, and who I am. If after that they were still ok with an encounter, well I know damn well I'd have big time butterflies in my stomach waiting for the knock on the door, and I'd fall down answering the door, 'cause I'd really be weak in the knees.

RG

 

You and me both bro'...well said! We can dream in the meantime but I'm not holding my breath! LOL

[Krayzie 151]

I have choosen not to try to explain my comments as I simple feel that most of you will not accept an explaination from me.

 

Sometimes an explanation goes great with an apology even if you don't think it will be accepted.

[Guest O** S**l]

Jughead:

 

I am not the type of person to pile on so I won't. I hope you have taken this as an important part of the learning process and are able to move on in a positive fashion. There are and should be consequences in all aspects of life for our actions and statements, yet first and foremost adjusting one's thinking and views is even more important. I've made many regrettable statements over the years and I have suffered the consequences for them and rightly so. I have no doubt that you are feeling the sting of your statements as I write this and I am hopeful you will take it for what it is. Time to pay it forward.

[jughead 45]

By try and setup something I meant that it certainly would be her choice and if it did proceed I would be nervous.

 

 

 

About the hate comment, I was thinking of my friends sister, my choice of wording was very poor and not very accurate. My meeting her in this fashion is not very likely in my opinion. I do run in to her at my friends place and I leave when she does show up. My friend knows the full story and that I do not want to be around her, and tells me when not to come up as she is going to be there.

My thoughts were that if I knew something that she did not want anyone else to know, as in the stated example, me showing up knowing full well that I do not like her and the feeling is probably the same on her end toward me. Me just know that would be revenge enough she might drive herself nut trying to think what am I going to say to people. I know that these types of head games are not right, but at the time it was where my head was, this thought thanks to all of you has now been changed and I will have talk with my friend about it. You all were right to hit me over the head with it such as you did I am sure that comments were taken at the very extreme perspective, that I was saying that I would hurt someone. No I do not believe in violence, violence agains women is never right and I never ment to say that in any way. Again sorry for not being accurate and fully explaining what I meant. I will try harder in the future.

[phigment 3310]

jugheads comments were inappropraite, we all agree. this has been made perfectly clear, repeatedly, in a number of well written comments. even jughead agrees. he has deleted his comments and openly apologized several times. he has not made an effort to defend his actions. there is nothing to be gained by pursuing this further.

if we are (appropriately) taking the position that the members of the board, particularly the ladies, are good people and deserve better, then it is time to do our part to prove we are worthy of this claim. this comes in the form of forgiveness. it is time to forgive.

jughead.....please do not do such a thing again. words are powerful. your words can elevate the ladies or they can terrorize them. so choose your words carefully.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

if we are (appropriately) taking the position that the members of the board, particularly the ladies, are good people and deserve better, then it is time to do our part to prove we are worthy of this claim.

I am going to disagree with you here. I don't think I need to "prove" that I am not deserving of being terrorized/harassed/degraded/demeaned. It goes without saying.

[goodguy613 223]

that the SP/hobbyiest you are about to meet for the first time may be someone you know in your personal life? How would you react?

 

I never expected that the beautiful woman who answered the door was someone I knew, I had a thought in the back of my mind that she was familiar but couldn't place her.

 

Later we started taking and discovered that we did know each other in a previous time in our lives. For me this only made things more interesting as I had often thought about what she would have been like to be with all those years ago...I always regretted never having the opportunity back then but pleased that I have been able to see her again, learn that she is doing fine and is even more amazing that I could have imagined...

 

Thank you, you know who you are..

[roamingguy 300291]

jugheads comments were inappropraite, we all agree. this has been made perfectly clear, repeatedly, in a number of well written comments. even jughead agrees. he has deleted his comments and openly apologized several times. he has not made an effort to defend his actions. there is nothing to be gained by pursuing this further.

if we are (appropriately) taking the position that the members of the board, particularly the ladies, are good people and deserve better, then it is time to do our part to prove we are worthy of this claim. this comes in the form of forgiveness. it is time to forgive.

jughead.....please do not do such a thing again. words are powerful. your words can elevate the ladies or they can terrorize them. so choose your words carefully.

 

This thread was slowly going to bed till it got resurrected today. To paint it in plain terms, for me, and probably most everyone here, yes posting the words is bad enough, but what is disturbing to me, and everyone else, is the thought process going on to even lead him to think such things, much less post it. Forgiveness isn't the issue here. His post fires up warning flags of a hateful man having no respect for woman.

RG

[phigment 3310]

I am going to disagree with you here. I don't think I need to "prove" that I am not deserving of being terrorized/harassed/degraded/demeaned. It goes without saying.

 

surely you are not going to claim you have never terrorized/harassed/degraded/demeaned another human being in the past? ever? in any forum? if indeed you are guilty of doing so, (as we all know we are) what makes you think you automatically deserve the right not to receive the same at the hands of someone else?

if we don't forgive , we are not worthy of forgiveness. the truth is really that simple.

same goes for you, roaming guy.

[roamingguy 300291]

surely you are not going to claim you have never terrorized/harassed/degraded/demeaned another human being in the past? ever? in any forum? if indeed you are guilty of doing so, (as we all know we are) what makes you think you automatically deserve the right not to receive the same at the hands of someone else?

if we don't forgive , we are not worthy of forgiveness. the truth is really that simple.

same goes for you, roaming guy.

 

Speaking for myself, I have never terrorized/harassed/degraded/demeaned another human being in the past. Why, have you? And frankly I resent the assumption on your part that that sort of behaviour at one time or another is normal, and we all have done it

Like I said, this isn't about forgiveness, this is about warning flags going off because his post indicates some chilling thought processes at work. Yes he apologized, but the underlying thoughts are my cause for concern

a person's thought processes don't just go away with an apology.

As for this thread going on, had you let it lie, instead of posting, this whole thread would have quietly gone away.

RG

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

surely you are not going to claim you have never terrorized/harassed/degraded/demeaned another human being in the past?

If I have, I can't say they deserved it.

if indeed you are guilty of doing so, (as we all know we are) what makes you think you automatically deserve the right not to receive the same at the hands of someone else?

I personally don't believe in "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" and I consider it rather barbaric.

 

I do believe in forgiveness, mostly for ourselves rather than the individuals who wronged us. But I don't believe what you said earlier that we need to "prove" that we don't deserve to be treated badly. As I said before, that goes without saying.