Florence French

[MsManda 25911]

2 minutes ago, Coco1 said:

If you're going to Colombia you might as well learn to spell it right lol 😂 

 

Fully agree though, hobbying in this province is at an all time low from when I first dipped my toe in the waters in 2005'ish. 

Ll ain't no BP, that's for sure 😂😭

[Coco1 98]

2 minutes ago, MsManda said:

Ll ain't no BP, that's for sure 😂😭

Damn I almost forgot about BP. Those were the days, back when 98% of the ads weren't fake. 

[MsManda 25911]

Just now, Coco1 said:

Damn I almost forgot about BP. Those were the days, back when 98% of the ads weren't fake. 

It was a different time for us too 

RIP 😭

[navy_suit 75]

11 hours ago, RobertDion said:

Having some pillow talk with a couple different SPs in the recent months and they mention how they shake their heads at the SPs who charge $400, $500, $600 per hour, they don't make extra income, when you have only one client per week because of those high prices, versus those at $250 or $300 and get a client everyday, it's purely made as a power move, a status symbol, to be extra selective, catering for only the ultra rich crowd. Everyone loses out, it's too much for 99% of hobbyists out there to enjoy, and the SPs are far less busy and get far less income as a result. I'm seeing more $500+/hour prices and demanding 20% upfront deposit fees. I don't think all the way to Columbia is necessary, but trips to Montreal tend to do the trick, just do the research in advance to find and select and reserve the one(s) you'd like. But it's getting tougher and tough out here in NS for sure 😞

This is such an insane take. This is a business, and the market has segments. Do you also think that Ferrari "loses out" because you don't buy their cars? 

Pretend you're an SP:

If you could (a) go on a paid vacation for 5 days with a bunch of extra cash in your pocket, (b) go to dinner and sleep over a few nights in a row, or (c) hole yourself up in a motel in Nova Scotia with lineup guys who scour LL for the least expensive options and ask the internet "is she real???" ... which business model would you prefer? 

You said it yourself: it is about being selective (and also a preference for lower volume / longer engagements). The model is clearly working for them and their clients. There is clearly a market for these providers...that market is apparently not you, and that's okay, but to criticize a successful business model because you don't see value the same way (and then say "they lose out") is ridiculous. 

[TheGoodGuy 31]

2 hours ago, navy_suit said:

This is such an insane take. This is a business, and the market has segments. Do you also think that Ferrari "loses out" because you don't buy their cars? 

Pretend you're an SP:

If you could (a) go on a paid vacation for 5 days with a bunch of extra cash in your pocket, (b) go to dinner and sleep over a few nights in a row, or (c) hole yourself up in a motel in Nova Scotia with lineup guys who scour LL for the least expensive options and ask the internet "is she real???" ... which business model would you prefer? 

You said it yourself: it is about being selective (and also a preference for lower volume / longer engagements). The model is clearly working for them and their clients. There is clearly a market for these providers...that market is apparently not you, and that's okay, but to criticize a successful business model because you don't see value the same way (and then say "they lose out") is ridiculous. 

I agree, and I’d like to look at this from a broader economic perspective. Canada’s economic environment today is fundamentally different from 10–15 years ago. At that time, middle-class households could reasonably afford single-family homes without excessive mortgage stress, leaving enough disposable income for leisure and discretionary spending.

Today, income growth has not kept pace with housing, debt servicing, and living costs. Wealth accumulation has become increasingly concentrated, while the middle class faces declining purchasing power. Even basic consumption patterns have shifted, with value-oriented retailers such as Costco becoming the default choice for many families.

On the supply side, service providers have adapted by diversifying income streams rather than relying on a single revenue source. In some cases, this includes transitioning away from traditional transactional models entirely. As a result, middle-income consumers are no longer the core target demographic.

From a market-access perspective, regions with a higher prevalence of cash-based economic activity—such as Quebec and selected cities in Ontario and British Columbia—tend to offer better availability and flexibility. Personally, I travel to Ontario three to four times per year, and gaining deeper insight into the Quebec market would further expand these options.

(My thought, but AI generated)

[ManFromMoncton 2]

I don't understand what we are discusing provider set their price too high find another that within your budget and move on.

[Santotwifs 4]

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20 hours ago, RobertDion said:

Having some pillow talk with a couple different SPs in the recent months and they mention how they shake their heads at the SPs who charge $400, $500, $600 per hour, they don't make extra income, when you have only one client per week because of those high prices, versus those at $250 or $300 and get a client everyday, it's purely made as a power move, a status symbol, to be extra selective, catering for only the ultra rich crowd. Everyone loses out, it's too much for 99% of hobbyists out there to enjoy, and the SPs are far less busy and get far less income as a result. I'm seeing more $500+/hour prices and demanding 20% upfront deposit fees. I don't think all the way to Columbia is necessary, but trips to Montreal tend to do the trick, just do the research in advance to find and select and reserve the one(s) you'd like. But it's getting tougher and tough out here in NS for sure 😞

It’s always funny when clients explain providers’ income to… providers. If high rates meant no bookings, we wouldn’t exist. We don’t fund our lifestyle with ‘power moves’ or ‘status symbols’ like you said, we fund it with money. Being priced out isn’t a market analysis. And asking lower-rate providers to analyze higher-rate makes about as much sense as asking economy passengers how first class sells.

[stevenwilson 107]

at the end of the day, its all market supply game. Having low options here in NS has a lot the the consumer side restricted with limited options. Going to bigger cities like toronto, Montreal, miami, etc. the competition is so high that you'll definitely find what you are looking for within the range.

[timetourist 1325]

Pricing comes down to what the market can bear for any particular SP.  A well known provider with established clients can charge a premium price and still fill their schedule.  A lesser known provider might need a much lower price to get the same number of client bookings.  There is also a perception of value within an area of operation.  

 

Any provider can charge whatever they want.  The argument is often that you can't put a price on a person.  That is true, but there is a perceived value to the service where too high of a price pushes users out of the market.  Too low of a price makes it not worth the effort for the provider.  There is a crossing point where price and volume are acceptable to the provider.  If the price is too high for the client, too bad.  There will always be a provider in that price point, but it might not be the provider that the client dreams about.

 

We do have a lot of great providers here, just not the high number that somebody the bigger cities have.  We have to live with that.  

[ManFromMoncton 2]

This tread became so off topic lol.

[Cjthomas 1591]

On 1/13/2026 at 6:44 PM, BenDover said:

lost me at FT 

I’m sure she won’t mind