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2 minutes ago, Coco1 said:

If you're going to Colombia you might as well learn to spell it right lol 😂 

 

Fully agree though, hobbying in this province is at an all time low from when I first dipped my toe in the waters in 2005'ish. 

Ll ain't no BP, that's for sure 😂😭

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2 minutes ago, MsManda said:

Ll ain't no BP, that's for sure 😂😭

Damn I almost forgot about BP. Those were the days, back when 98% of the ads weren't fake. 

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Just now, Coco1 said:

Damn I almost forgot about BP. Those were the days, back when 98% of the ads weren't fake. 

It was a different time for us too 

RIP 😭

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11 hours ago, RobertDion said:

Having some pillow talk with a couple different SPs in the recent months and they mention how they shake their heads at the SPs who charge $400, $500, $600 per hour, they don't make extra income, when you have only one client per week because of those high prices, versus those at $250 or $300 and get a client everyday, it's purely made as a power move, a status symbol, to be extra selective, catering for only the ultra rich crowd. Everyone loses out, it's too much for 99% of hobbyists out there to enjoy, and the SPs are far less busy and get far less income as a result. I'm seeing more $500+/hour prices and demanding 20% upfront deposit fees. I don't think all the way to Columbia is necessary, but trips to Montreal tend to do the trick, just do the research in advance to find and select and reserve the one(s) you'd like. But it's getting tougher and tough out here in NS for sure 😞

This is such an insane take. This is a business, and the market has segments. Do you also think that Ferrari "loses out" because you don't buy their cars? 

Pretend you're an SP:

If you could (a) go on a paid vacation for 5 days with a bunch of extra cash in your pocket, (b) go to dinner and sleep over a few nights in a row, or (c) hole yourself up in a motel in Nova Scotia with lineup guys who scour LL for the least expensive options and ask the internet "is she real???" ... which business model would you prefer? 

You said it yourself: it is about being selective (and also a preference for lower volume / longer engagements). The model is clearly working for them and their clients. There is clearly a market for these providers...that market is apparently not you, and that's okay, but to criticize a successful business model because you don't see value the same way (and then say "they lose out") is ridiculous. 

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2 hours ago, navy_suit said:

This is such an insane take. This is a business, and the market has segments. Do you also think that Ferrari "loses out" because you don't buy their cars? 

Pretend you're an SP:

If you could (a) go on a paid vacation for 5 days with a bunch of extra cash in your pocket, (b) go to dinner and sleep over a few nights in a row, or (c) hole yourself up in a motel in Nova Scotia with lineup guys who scour LL for the least expensive options and ask the internet "is she real???" ... which business model would you prefer? 

You said it yourself: it is about being selective (and also a preference for lower volume / longer engagements). The model is clearly working for them and their clients. There is clearly a market for these providers...that market is apparently not you, and that's okay, but to criticize a successful business model because you don't see value the same way (and then say "they lose out") is ridiculous. 

I agree, and I’d like to look at this from a broader economic perspective. Canada’s economic environment today is fundamentally different from 10–15 years ago. At that time, middle-class households could reasonably afford single-family homes without excessive mortgage stress, leaving enough disposable income for leisure and discretionary spending.

Today, income growth has not kept pace with housing, debt servicing, and living costs. Wealth accumulation has become increasingly concentrated, while the middle class faces declining purchasing power. Even basic consumption patterns have shifted, with value-oriented retailers such as Costco becoming the default choice for many families.

On the supply side, service providers have adapted by diversifying income streams rather than relying on a single revenue source. In some cases, this includes transitioning away from traditional transactional models entirely. As a result, middle-income consumers are no longer the core target demographic.

From a market-access perspective, regions with a higher prevalence of cash-based economic activity—such as Quebec and selected cities in Ontario and British Columbia—tend to offer better availability and flexibility. Personally, I travel to Ontario three to four times per year, and gaining deeper insight into the Quebec market would further expand these options.

(My thought, but AI generated)

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20 hours ago, RobertDion said:

Having some pillow talk with a couple different SPs in the recent months and they mention how they shake their heads at the SPs who charge $400, $500, $600 per hour, they don't make extra income, when you have only one client per week because of those high prices, versus those at $250 or $300 and get a client everyday, it's purely made as a power move, a status symbol, to be extra selective, catering for only the ultra rich crowd. Everyone loses out, it's too much for 99% of hobbyists out there to enjoy, and the SPs are far less busy and get far less income as a result. I'm seeing more $500+/hour prices and demanding 20% upfront deposit fees. I don't think all the way to Columbia is necessary, but trips to Montreal tend to do the trick, just do the research in advance to find and select and reserve the one(s) you'd like. But it's getting tougher and tough out here in NS for sure 😞

It’s always funny when clients explain providers’ income to… providers. If high rates meant no bookings, we wouldn’t exist. We don’t fund our lifestyle with ‘power moves’ or ‘status symbols’ like you said, we fund it with money. Being priced out isn’t a market analysis. And asking lower-rate providers to analyze higher-rate makes about as much sense as asking economy passengers how first class sells.

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at the end of the day, its all market supply game. Having low options here in NS has a lot the the consumer side restricted with limited options. Going to bigger cities like toronto, Montreal, miami, etc. the competition is so high that you'll definitely find what you are looking for within the range.

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Pricing comes down to what the market can bear for any particular SP.  A well known provider with established clients can charge a premium price and still fill their schedule.  A lesser known provider might need a much lower price to get the same number of client bookings.  There is also a perception of value within an area of operation.  

 

Any provider can charge whatever they want.  The argument is often that you can't put a price on a person.  That is true, but there is a perceived value to the service where too high of a price pushes users out of the market.  Too low of a price makes it not worth the effort for the provider.  There is a crossing point where price and volume are acceptable to the provider.  If the price is too high for the client, too bad.  There will always be a provider in that price point, but it might not be the provider that the client dreams about.

 

We do have a lot of great providers here, just not the high number that somebody the bigger cities have.  We have to live with that.  

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As a reference point for this off topic thread,

You can easily pay over $100 for 1 steak at Cut. Also, have routinely paid I’d say on average $175 to fill the truck.

 

 Not even sure if these ladies can get their hair done for 3-400 dollars.

 

 At 3 % inflation for 10 years , there goes 33%of your purchasing, yes, all things equal 33% higher prices. (3% would be mild consider how governments roll nowadays)
 

For prices to go down, would take a lot of job losses and recession, zero dates and a lot more pain for a lot more people

 

Market prices are always correct, sometimes just takes time to accept

 

*I’m of a vintage “when I was a teenager”, McDonald’s had the gull to raise the price of a mcchicken meal over 3.99 than all of a sudden needed more than a five bill to eat with tax, that was tough to swallow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, LadiesFirst said:

As a reference point for this off topic thread,

You can easily pay over $100 for 1 steak at Cut. Also, have routinely paid I’d say on average $175 to fill the truck.

 

 Not even sure if these ladies can get their hair done for 3-400 dollars.

 

 At 3 % inflation for 10 years , there goes 33%of your purchasing, yes, all things equal 33% higher prices. (3% would be mild consider how governments roll nowadays)
 

For prices to go down, would take a lot of job losses and recession, zero dates and a lot more pain for a lot more people

 

Market prices are always correct, sometimes just takes time to accept

 

*I’m of a vintage “when I was a teenager”, McDonald’s had the gull to raise the price of a mcchicken meal over 3.99 than all of a sudden needed more than a five bill to eat with tax, that was tough to swallow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds like rates are actually still low then 👀😈

 

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32 minutes ago, Barney said:

Also The Agency takes a % or their cut , and they have to pay for Travel 

That's actually insane, that their travel isn't covered 😭

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47 minutes ago, MsManda said:

Sounds like rates are actually still low then 👀😈

 

Oh no 😳, Always wanted to unite the community….. did not consider it would be against me.

 Thanks for this….. Will forward my hate mail along 📫

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Hello gentlemen,

We feel the need to respond to some comments in this thread, as well as a few others thread we’ve seen lately.

First, we will repeat a few things we have said several times since last year:

  • Companions charge whatever donation they choose under the YFL umbrella.

  • Companions offer whatever services they want under the YFL umbrella.

We have also said since last year that everything is getting more expensive (flights, hotels, food, etc.), so it needs to be worthwhile for models to travel.

That being said, we feel that some clients have unrealistic expectations lately—expecting a top model who is sweet and willing to do everything for $280. The market in general has increased significantly outside of the Maritimes bubble, and you need to get used to it if you want quality providers.

On the other hand, we also believe that some girls are unrealistic about their business model. Local girls can charge a higher donation because:

  1. They do not have travel expenses, and

  2. They likely have another source of income since it's their home town

So having only one client per day is not an issue. but when touring, it’s another story.

There is a concept called supply and demand. We always say: charge what you want, but clients ultimately decide whether you stay busy or not. In the end, charging more (in some cases) doesn’t necessarily mean earning more money by the end of the week. But its a personal choice, and that choice needs to be respected.

 

You can see us as mediators or advisers in all of this, but ultimately it’s you guys (and girls) who decide what you want—or don’t want. One thing we don’t understand is why some of you complain to us about not having extremely detailed service descriptions and/or about prices being too high, yet still choose to see independents who often offer YMMV service, charge more, and you’re okay with it?

As a reminder, we have been visiting for many years, and we do our best to represent only models who meet a certain standard and offer fair pricing. Most importantly, we provide stable, consistent visits in the Maritimes. There was a time when we were the only ones visiting you. We also work very hard—12 to 15 hours a day, 7 days a week—to respond in a timely manner and keep everything running smoothly. We hope that you appreciate it 😊

 

Thank you,
The YFL Team

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On 1/12/2026 at 6:14 PM, NSGuy14 said:

YFL is asking for deposits now?!  Boy, the no-shows must be mounting.  That's really unfortunate.  I hate that trend for Halifax!

No shows are terrible here unfortunately. I don’t ask for deposits but I see why others do!! It’s an unfortunate waste of peoples time for no reason 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🙈

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7 hours ago, LadiesFirst said:

Oh no 😳, Always wanted to unite the community….. did not consider it would be against me.

 Thanks for this….. Will forward my hate mail along 📫

Don't worry, I won't use it against you 😂

 

I appreciate you getting it tbh 

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5 hours ago, Yourfrenchlady said:

Hello gentlemen,

We feel the need to respond to some comments in this thread, as well as a few others thread we’ve seen lately.

First, we will repeat a few things we have said several times since last year:

  • Companions charge whatever donation they choose under the YFL umbrella.

  • Companions offer whatever services they want under the YFL umbrella.

We have also said since last year that everything is getting more expensive (flights, hotels, food, etc.), so it needs to be worthwhile for models to travel.

That being said, we feel that some clients have unrealistic expectations lately—expecting a top model who is sweet and willing to do everything for $280. The market in general has increased significantly outside of the Maritimes bubble, and you need to get used to it if you want quality providers.

On the other hand, we also believe that some girls are unrealistic about their business model. Local girls can charge a higher donation because:

  1. They do not have travel expenses, and

  2. They likely have another source of income since it's their home town

So having only one client per day is not an issue. but when touring, it’s another story.

There is a concept called supply and demand. We always say: charge what you want, but clients ultimately decide whether you stay busy or not. In the end, charging more (in some cases) doesn’t necessarily mean earning more money by the end of the week. But its a personal choice, and that choice needs to be respected.

 

You can see us as mediators or advisers in all of this, but ultimately it’s you guys (and girls) who decide what you want—or don’t want. One thing we don’t understand is why some of you complain to us about not having extremely detailed service descriptions and/or about prices being too high, yet still choose to see independents who often offer YMMV service, charge more, and you’re okay with it?

As a reminder, we have been visiting for many years, and we do our best to represent only models who meet a certain standard and offer fair pricing. Most importantly, we provide stable, consistent visits in the Maritimes. There was a time when we were the only ones visiting you. We also work very hard—12 to 15 hours a day, 7 days a week—to respond in a timely manner and keep everything running smoothly. We hope that you appreciate it 😊

 

Thank you,
The YFL Team

Hmm.. When I'm touring, I charge more, because my expenses are higher 

 

Sw is my only job, has been for a decade

 

Everyone should be allowed to decide ymmv, because it's the providers body, and choice what they do with it ❤️

Not all clients are compatible with all requests/offerings, and payment doesn't negate our consent 

 

Yfl, certain people will complain regardless of what the rate is, and what's included or not. 

The Maritimes has always appreciated that you're priced lower than the locals - trust me, most of us independents have been compared to your offerings 🤦😂

But 250 - 300/hr was the going rate more than a decade ago.. I'm not simply absorbing a decade of inflation out of the kindness of my heart. 

As independents, we just don't have the infrastructure to comfortably absorb those costs personally, especially covering our own overheads 

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I'll never understand the complaints about higher rate providers...if you want to see them can you not just save up? If you need to do it on the sly take some cashback a little at a time when you're at Walmart paying for your groceries...40 or 50 at a time adds up and it's easily masked by the inflation of food prices. Throw away the receipt so your wife doesn't find it. Simple and effective. 

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