Winnipeg- Guilty Plea in Wolseley Bawdy House Case

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

Notwithstanding the effects on the children in a case like this (I have NO expertise or comment on this) another example of hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars being wasted catching and prosecuting someone who is of no harm to the general public, while gansta's and thugs run wild in our streets.

[milfhunter1967 2154]

I agree completely with LNC, It's a complete waste of taxpayer money to waste the resources on such a thing! I'm not sure how much "several days of surveillance" would cost but considering the arson and gang violence in this city I'm sure the police could have found better use of there time and resources! As a Manitoba tax payer it makes me so proud! Not!

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Was she helping them or exploiting vulnerable teens for profit? It's really hard to tell.

[rexx 531]

The discussions at the time seemed to take both sides some who worked for her thought they were being taken advantage of others thought very highly of her.

[just2enjoy 1621]

As long as she wasn't exploiting vulnerable teens warranting the necessary investigation, it seems such a waste of tax $'s! The Crown is only seeking a conditional sentence - compare the punishment to the cost of surveillance, investigation, and court costs - not much bang for the buck, just alot of catchy headlines! So much violence and crime in the city yet this gets resources.

[mrgreen760 37785]

I think this was the classic case of making the error of drawing a little too much attention to ones self. It became fairly high profile at one point and other "licensed" buisnesses might have complained about no license or other municipal fees being collected as well as being pissed about losing clients and of course revenues. Once pandora's box was open as it were, then everything cascaded. A good reminder that loose lips sink ships and never ever talk publically about how good business is.... as it might breed jealousy and resentment.

 

If it's true I would never condone minors being on premise in anyway shape or form.

 

Peace

MG

[Zoe Zee 13876]

I think this was the classic case of making the error of drawing a little too much attention to ones self. It became fairly high profile at one point and other "licensed" buisnesses might have complained about no license or other municipal fees being collected as well as being pissed about losing clients and of course revenues. Once pandora's box was open as it were, then everything cascaded. A good reminder that loose lips sink ships and never ever talk publically about how good business is.... as it might breed jealousy and resentment.

 

If it's true I would never condone minors being on premise in anyway shape or form.

 

Peace

MG

 

I agree, as well there was lots of solicitation going on - to potential women to work there and I heard to gents to come visit or go to the parties. From what I heard it was like thumbing your nose at vice and it was bound to happen.

[scribbles 6031]

Ignoring the, for want of a better word, boldness of operating this way, the recruitment of workers from a teen help hotline is troubling, and so is having your 17-year-old son involved, doing it in a home with your kids, and particularly sharing cocaine and X with your kid.

I wouldn't call this a waste of taxpayer dollars, or an example of LE oppressing sex workers. This seems like a case of irresponsibility on many levels leading to inevitable and, probably, necessary LE intervention.

 

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[Andee 220524]

Was she helping them or exploiting vulnerable teens for profit? It's really hard to tell.

 

There was a very popular Winnipeg SP who once told me she was heavily recruited to work for her and let's just say some things happened to this lady when she politely declined which were more than a coincidence. The fact that this SP didn't want to give up almost half her earnings, be on a mandated schedule and be forced to purchase her lingerie and condoms from this woman, tells me this woman was clearly living off the avails. (Hell, condoms are distributed free to sex workers in every major city).

 

What I find the most offensive is that she had minor children living in the same house where all this was going, including illegal drug use, encouraging her teenage son to procure for her and living off the avails by making these girls work under very rigid work conditions.

 

I am all for safe working conditions for all sex workers, but not where one person is controlling and profiting from it to their advantage. This was no a co-operative type of arrangement, it was clearly the opposite.

 

I think whatever sentence she gets, she deserves. Although it is sobering to read she is trying to redeem herself somewhat by volunteering.

[SHE DEVIL 16331]

I'm of the opinion that something of this nature is really bad for this hobby. It doesn't need this type of exposure. It really fucked up the industry here.

 

I'm also of the opinion that exploiting young people for personal finiancial gain, is abhorrent. (like her sickening auction of a girls first session for example)

 

The over-presecense and disregard for "discretion" which is sacred. She pissed all over it. She deserves it. What she doesn't deserve is having a sex worker advocacy group pay her legal fees. Those groups are there to help women in the industry and raise the hobby to a different level other than stereotypes. She is a stereotypical opportunist.

[Eraser 529]

I'm of the opinion that something of this nature is really bad for this hobby. It doesn't need this type of exposure. It really fucked up the industry here.

 

I'm also of the opinion that exploiting young people for personal finiancial gain, is abhorrent. (like her sickening auction of a girls first session for example)

 

The over-presecense and disregard for "discretion" which is sacred. She pissed all over it. She deserves it. What she doesn't deserve is having a sex worker advocacy group pay her legal fees. Those groups are there to help women in the industry and raise the hobby to a different level other than stereotypes. She is a stereotypical opportunist.

 

I agree with this comment and I can add nothing...other than I hope that she does not get away with just a slap on the wrists as punishment.

I find her actions overall,despicable!

[Catfish101 171]

Ignoring the, for want of a better word, boldness of operating this way, the recruitment of workers from a teen help hotline is troubling, and so is having your 17-year-old son involved, doing it in a home with your kids, and particularly sharing cocaine and X with your kid.

I wouldn't call this a waste of taxpayer dollars, or an example of LE oppressing sex workers. This seems like a case of irresponsibility on many levels leading to inevitable and, probably, necessary LE intervention.

 

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should taxes be part of these discussions? I mean really.

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[scribbles 6031]

should taxes be part of these discussions? I mean really.

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Well, given that a previous poster said it was a waste of taxpayers' dollars for LE to pursue these kinds of cases, I suppose it *is* part of the discussion.

 

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[chavez 641]

I have missed most of the discussion on Sydnee's situation , which is a shame because I am not sure there are many that are in a better situation to defend her against the many attacks than I am. It is wrong, but it is understandable that the media tell a one sided story based mostly on the information given to them by the L.E.s . What I find ironic is people who did not know the real situation , many that never lived here or met her, or had anything to do with her ; taking upon themselves to judge her based on what the media has fed them. They all should know better.

Sydney was no saint, but in some ways she was a bit on an angel. Lord knows she and I did not see eye to eye on many thing ; mostly about running a " brothel" out of your home, and how safe it was to hold parties at your home. You know what; we weren't even a very good match sexually but I respected her. That is one of the great things about Sydnee; you didn't have to agree with her 100% to consider her a friend.

This talk about 'trying to redeam herself somewhat by volunteering' is nonsence. Sydnee did tons to good work. Gathered food for the food banks at her party. Contributed and encouraged others to contribute to animal shelters, especially in our unforgiving Winnipeg winters, work at the woman's shelters, on her website she started a blog that was more or less ' how unselfish I am, with a prize bassed on the contribution voted the best, it may have inspired more good deads) the list goes on.......

Some one said that they considered that auctioning of a ladies 1st SP experience distasteful. Well me too a little bit, that is why I didn't participate, but you have to have known what inspired this. Does anyone remember a young lady somewhere in the United States auctioning her virginity. It huge media visibility. That is what inspired this and that was typical Sydnee. It wasn't anyone's virginity , it was their first S.P. experience. Maybe it ment something special to the lady to think that her first experience was special not just to her but to some guys. Maybe it was. I don't know , I don't live in a ladied head. I do remember this. The arrived price for 1 hr. as a little less than a regular fee for 2 hour, so no big deal but if it made the lady and the guy feel special I am ok. with that

It is suggested that she recruited young girls while doing her volunteer work. Did you ever think that maybe young girls we already in this buisness and planned to continue. She offered them a safer place to work. Screened their clients for them. Upped their fees to a real professional level so they weren't being take advantage of on the street.

Sometimes some of "Sydnee's girls" were 19 but more often the ages were in the 20's or 30's.

Was it a co-operative? Maybe not exactly. The ladies had pretty much controle over when they worked. They had Sydnee's screening and with that, controle over who they saw. The ladies choose what services they wished to offer and what services they wished to provide. There was no up selling. There wasn't a no-shows, because Sydnee set the appointments and the ladies didn't have to tell the guy ' I'll be there, when they didn't want to, and there was no switches.

Some people think that the ladies were forced to show their faces in the ads. I don't know , it may have been encouraged (maybe to prevent the appearance of switching), but I know that showing your face wasn't manditory because the lady that I saw a number of times always appeares in mask or with her face turned to the camera.

Compared to any other agency in Winnipeg , this was excellent service for both clientele and S.P.

Not every lady needed Sydneys support to run their buisness. Ladies came and ladies went in her opperation so naturally she was recruiting. Often I suspect that they were only there long enough to get a good sence of what they could do on their own. I am sure that she missed a well established lady and popular lady when she moved on but I never heard Sydnee complain about that and her services of screening clients, setting up appointments and seeing that the ladies only worked the times that they wanted suited some ladies very well.

Once established with Sydnee a guy could alway use her for a reference when dealing with ladies not in Sydnee's flock. I am certain that after an appointment with ' one of her girls' there was a post appointment report. I was certainly o.k. with that. I never heard any lady, not with her. say that Sydnee refused a reference. She considered this profession, a real profession with no time for selfishness.

Certainly she pushed the boundries. I believe that she felt that it was what was needed to push this profession out of it's darker edges and into accepted main stream society.

She pushed harder and moved faster than many of us would have, but her intentions were good and they were honest.

We should not judge her on what is feed to us by the media and we need to be carefull about judgeing her by what her competion has to say. I judge her by what she was , and I say she was a lady ahead of her time. A time that we yet might see.

[Guest E*******h S******s]

Irrespective as to her "good works" and "pushing the boundaries to bring the profession out of the dark ages", if minor children were living there and/or involved in the recruitment of sex workers, she should have been shut down and had the book thrown at her. Period.

[steelydan 130]

Could this be the tip of the iceberg to come, when it comes to prosecution?

[blazejowski 436]

She was a very sweet woman, just got very, very sloppy... very glad I wasn't around when she got pinched. Never got my 2 sessions, though... sigh...

[OldBuck 1074]

I don't have a lot of trouble judging Sydnee.

 

I watched how Sydnee developed and and presented herself online and I wondered when the police would intervene, not if they would act. Others did stand to be harmed by her ill-considered actions and some were. At best, Sydnee was foolish, careless and showed poor taste. I am sure she had some good intentions, but the net result of her work was a set-back for the industry.

[fortunateone 156618]

I don't have a lot of trouble judging Sydnee.

 

I watched how Sydnee developed and and presented herself online and I wondered when the police would intervene, not if they would act. Others did stand to be harmed by her ill-considered actions and some were. At best, Sydnee was foolish, careless and showed poor taste. I am sure she had some good intentions, but the net result of her work was a set-back for the industry.

 

 

Perhaps you could give examples? Were any clients at all called in for testimony? Was there anyone other than the supportive sp as witnesses? I am not sure of the extent of the investigation, as it sounds a lot like the investigators and charges decided before they arrived what was happening there, and what they were going to pursue, and wouldn't take the truth for an answer lol.

 

I do know some back story here, and things portrayed are not always as they seem. Especially here on an escort/client forum, I do hope that folks already know that sps and their clients are not a danger to society, their neighbours, or their children most of the time. At least, not more often than civilians are a danger to society, their neighbours, or their children, The fact the courts/police etc could make such easy work of this is because she was an escort, not in spite of it, and not because she was loud about it either. they seized an opportunity to strike fear into both sps who work from home and clients. When sps work from home in Winnipeg they are safe from LE stings. If they make them fearful of offering that, they will do more outcalls. In Winnipeg, LE sets up outcall stings, arranges for the sp to appear, then tells them they are breaking the law (which of course they are not) but in any case, they stop working for the night or several days.

 

I don't underestimate these people, from dropping drunks and SWs into the boonies in sub zero temperature nights, to whatever else they get up to including false evidence and intimidation tactics.

[goingdeep 290]

I have to agree with Old Buck on this one. She was very cocky months before she arrested. I remember talking with one of the ladies who had quit working for her just weeks before the big bust. In her words Sydnee was out of control and didn't think anyone could touch her.

[plumbcrawl 457]

Sydnee/her co-op has to be the single most galvanizing local pooning issue of the last 5 years. I guess the ultimate question is did she help or hurt hobbying ? Some would say it improved, others would say she left it far worse off than she found it. My personal feeling is that she hurt the overall market. Having young kids even perceived to be exposed to clients/drugs/escorts does nothing to improve/change the public perception of professional ladies.

I don't know if anyone can say for sure if she did more harm than good & sadly that is an epitaph no one ever wants to mark the end of their career in any industry

[livenudecats 4067]

Looks like the penalty was handed down.

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2012/02/15/madam-ordered-to-pay-up-for-sex-house