The little blue pill

[AllysonNS 1548]

I have had some perspective clients ask about me obtaining Viagra for them in the past and another one since I came back. I have no experience with it but am sure men I have seen before were using it and that does not bother me.

 

I was just wondering if this is something that is common or that others have come across with men asking an SP to obtain/provide it for them. And how others may have handled it.

[Phaedrus 209521]

My suspicion is that this sort of thing should probably be left to doctors. I believe Viagra can react badly with some other medications or medical conditions (not sure what, off the top of my head), so things could perhaps become rather less than fun if you gave it to someone who shouldn't have it...

 

I can't believe any reasonable person would expect a SP to provide little blue pills, so there's probably no downside to just not doing so. And unreasonable people will just find something else to be unreasonable about even if you did :)

[AllysonNS 1548]

I won't be doing it for sure, I really don't feel comfortable with the request so it won't be happening. Just really curious how often it happens.

[backrubman 64800]

I was just wondering if this is something that is common or that others have come across with men asking an SP to obtain/provide it for them. And how others may have handled it.

 

It would be very ill advised to do this even if you could. I've heard it is a common question but way too big a risk for the SP to illicitly supply prescription drugs to a client in Canada.

 

I guess they are not so dangerous as they are commonly sold without a prescription or notable (news worthy) incidents in third world countries. Recently I was in a pharmacy in República Dominicana (to buy a nail clipper) and they had a big sign skillfully painted on the wall in multiple languages, "Viagra, Levita, Cialis, available here - no prescription necessary" and the glass display case was well stocked :)

[roamingguy 300292]

My suspicion is that this sort of thing should probably be left to doctors. I believe Viagra can react badly with some other medications or medical conditions (not sure what, off the top of my head), so things could perhaps become rather less than fun if you gave it to someone who shouldn't have it...

 

I can't believe any reasonable person would expect a SP to provide little blue pills, so there's probably no downside to just not doing so. And unreasonable people will just find something else to be unreasonable about even if you did :)

 

It can react to some medications. And some prescription medications can affect erections. Also, as I discovered, if you have a family history of strokes, Viagra (and Cialis) are contra indicated. Only your doctor knows your medical history and can prescribe medications for you safely.

I'm not sure, but someone not qualified to prescribe and/or dispense prescription medications could in fact be breaking the law by giving prescription meds to someone, without a prescription. If you think you need Viagra, get a prescription from your doctor and get the prescription dispensed by a licensed pharmacist

As a side note, there are other options...THAT WORK :-) Me, I use L-Argenine. No side effects, well just one :-) It is safe with my prescription, and no negative side effects that are reported with Viagra

I posted about it early http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=98245&highlight=l-arginine

My evening rambling

RG

[SamanthaEvans 166766]

Allyson, I have had men ask me to provide Viagra and I have always refused. There are very important reasons for this to be a prescription medication obtainable only through a qualified doctor or nurse practitioner. Viagra influences the performance of the cardio-vascular system which is not something to fool around with under any circumstances. One of my clients had bypass surgery about 18 months ago and was only approved to resume using Viagra a year later, after he'd lost 75 pounds and achieved a particular level of cardiac health and performance.

 

There are several drugs available for treating Erectile Dysfunction (ED). They have different side effects and are of greater or lesser benefit for different people. Levitra, for example, is the one most commonly prescribed for men who have diabetes.

 

Most of my clients are men in their 50s, 60s and 70s and a lot of them take Viagra or one of the other medications. The drugs work very well. If I know that a prospective client will be using one of them I usually ask them not to take it until we're together in person. It takes awhile for the drug to work, but everyone is different. I've found it's best if the man takes it and then we relax together and let things move along naturally. If the man takes the drug before he arrives at my place, we may miss the most optimal time to connect; the results can be disappointing after that.

 

Men who seek an alternate supply of medication for ED need to know that the drug may not be appropriate for them and that what they might receive may not be the drug they need. Off-shore, mail-order pharmacies have been shown to be unreliable about the truth and quality of many of the medications they sell.

 

Some men are reluctant to ask their doctors about medication for ED. Most of them have never told their doctors that they're experiencing erectile difficulties. This is troubling because problems with erectile function may be symptoms of vascular disease, diabetes and other serious, chronic and/or potentially life-threatening conditions.

 

While I understand that men often have difficulty admitting to other men that they have erectile problems, what they need to know is that all men have difficulties sometimes and that their doctors have seen many men who are younger and better-looking than they are who have ED and seek treatment. Asking for this kind of thing is one of the main reasons most men see their general practitioners in the first place. And if a man is worried that his doctor may discuss his ED and his request for treatment with his wife, he needs to find another doctor who he can trust.

[AllysonNS 1548]

Thank you Samantha, that is exactly the kind of information I was hoping for. The question itself has always made me uncomfortable and was hoping I wasn't the only one. To me I always considered it like any other drug, although I don't mind someone using it, the thought of providing it or being asked to always bugged me. Not to mention how would an SP actually obtain it with out breaking lots of laws, I like what I do to be legal.

[Jade-S (Retired) 19717]

As most of us know you can buy all kinds of "natural" male and female sex enhancers at most if not all local sex shops.

 

You could always make that suggestion if asked...

 

I understand why you would not. I know if I was asked i would definitely not. I would not put someones life in my hands that way.

[bcguy42 38594]

So... let's review:

 

A guy asking an SP to provide Viagra or any other prescription ED drug is asking her to break the law in a major way. Guys - don't do that.

 

If you have any questions about ED pharmaceuticals, go back and reread SamanthaEvans' post. She did a very good job of succinctly covering the hows and whys of ED drugs.

 

Regarding guys being shy about talking to their doctor about ED - hello? This guy just had his finger up your butt! He says he's checking your prostate. Uh huh. They all say that. And now you're going to get shy about telling him Willy sometimes dies out too soon?

 

Tell him. Two reasons. One, like SamanthaEvans said, it may be a symptom of more that just getting older. Two, once you get your meds and figure out how to work them, life will be so much more fun. :)

 

Full disclosure: I take them. The doc didn't bat an eye when I brought it up (no pun intended). I tried Viagra. It worked. Kinda, sorta.. I mentioned this to him the next time I saw him and he switched me to Cialis. It works much better for me. Oh yes it does. :)

 

I get mine from the pharmacy down the street. We have an arrangement. They give me drugs but no BBBJs. My SP gives me excellent BBBJs but no drugs. That works pretty well for me.

[BuckyKatt 419]

these guys don't make sense. that stuff takes 1 to 2 hours to take effect. what do they expect to do, sit outside and wait? tell em to visit the local clinic.

 

bk

[oldblueeyez 15475]

Yeah, it's like, grow some balls and go to your doctor, odds are he partakes in your hobby as well (if your Doc's a he), and if you're so worried about your family Doc blabbing to your wife, go to a walk-in clinic and pharmacy in another city. Geez. And who would ingest pills they obtained from a stranger anyway? They could be XTC or acid, or something bad. Docs can be booze-swilling philanderous horndogs themselves, so why worry?

[LeeRichards 177238]

I get mine from the pharmacy down the street. We have an arrangement. They give me drugs but no BBBJs. My SP gives me excellent BBBJs but no drugs. That works pretty well for me.

 

That is fucking hilarious !!!!

 

and for the record...if you do get a BJ at the pharmacy and being that they sell condoms you would think it would be a covered BJ ....Promote and Upsale your product !! ;)

[SamanthaEvans 166766]

these guys don't make sense. that stuff takes 1 to 2 hours to take effect. . . .bk

 

For some men, it takes an hour or more. For others, it can work in 20-30 minutes. The difference may be partly the "placebo effect" where we believe so strongly that we're receiving a benefit from the medication that we actually get the hoped-for result even if the medication isn't working or was just a sugar pill. The difference may also be attributed to the differences between individuals.

 

Similarly, the effect of the medication may vary. Two of my clients have lasting, positive results from Viagra for about 12 hours. Most men find that the drug is best for a couple of hours and ineffective beyond that. Cialis seems to be helpful for a day or two, depending on one's vascular health in general, but isn't so helpful if diabetic neuropathy is the cause of his erectile difficulties. Levitra is helpful for many men when diabetes is involved.

 

Sometimes none of these medications works or works reliably, however. There are operations that can help--installing implants, pumps, etc. These are invasive procedures, to say the least, and while they have good outcomes, they're more commonly performed on--and sought by--young men in their 20s and 30s who have lost erectile function because of injury or illness.

 

What I would like men to recognize, though, is that the inability to have or maintain a firm and lasting erection doesn't have to mean the end of one's sex life. Yes, intercourse may no longer be on the menu. However, satisfying orgasms are still possible from manual and oral stimulation and the emotional satisfaction that's part of sexual engagement can be achieved in many, many, many ways that are not limited to intercourse.

 

If men are honest with themselves and with one another, they could recognize that penises are notoriously unreliable appendages. Cultivating a full-body sensuality is often much more satisfying emotionally, physically and spiritually than focusing excessively on one organ or sensation.

[igab 5629]

I agree with everything that has been said so far and would add one other thing.

 

The blue pill is quite expensive. Why would he expect you to further erode your earnings to supply him with something he needs? Yes I know that most SPs provide condoms which technically is something he needs but of course it is a mutually beneficial thing right? In the case of the blue pill the only one who needs it is him so he should supply it.

 

Prescriptions are dead easy to get and Doctors do not bat an eyelash. Why would they? As many have said if he/she knows you have health issues then he/she can refuse or suggest some different things to do or have done. Chances are the client can get it a lot cheaper through his drug insurance plan then you can anyway. Let's face it most hobbiests have a good income and a drug plan so it makes sense that they supply.

 

You should feel no compunction in saying "No sorry that's a prescription medication that you have to supply yourself."

 

If he doesn't book with you for that reason you're better off not seeing him.

[Hector17 9215]

Much cheaper in the generic name "Sildenafil" in DR or Mexico etc..no prescription like "Backrubman" said.

Tell him to go there on vacation and bring back a supply, or get a friend to do it on their next trip.

 

 

Just had my annual physical, and the Dr told me he has 80 year olds asking him for Viagra...good for them!

 

I am not aware of any plans covering the cost of Viagra or Cialis etc...

 

 

 

Prescriptions are dead easy to get and Doctors do not bat an eyelash. Why would they? As many have said if he/she knows you have health issues then he/she can refuse or suggest some different things to do or have done. Chances are the client can get it a lot cheaper through his drug insurance plan then you can anyway. Let's face it most hobbiests have a good income and a drug plan so it makes sense that they supply.

 

You should feel no compunction in saying "No sorry that's a prescription medication that you have to supply yourself."

 

If he doesn't book with you for that reason you're better off not seeing him.

[kechara 2526]

 

I am not aware of any plans covering the cost of Viagra or Cialis etc...

 

Mine did ..:)

[backrubman 64800]

Much cheaper in the generic name "Sildenafil" in DR or Mexico etc..no prescription like "Backrubman" said.

 

Yeah, they have both, the sealed and real deal from the manufacturer (in original packaging with the hologram) and also a generic version. I don't think I would "trust" the more generic versions as you can't be sure.

 

These substances should really be prescribed by a medical doctor and I was kind of shocked to see they weren't.

 

Tell him to go there on vacation and bring back a supply, or get a friend to do it on their next trip.

 

If you are entering Canada with medications that normally require a prescription here you best have the prescription (or the placard from the pharmacy baring the name of the prescribing physician) or could run into trouble.

[Hector17 9215]

Yeah, they have both, the sealed and real deal from the manufacturer (in original packaging with the hologram) and also a generic version. I don't think I would "trust" the more generic versions as you can't be sure.

 

----The "generic" works for sure, at least the ones from "Ahorro Farmacia"..called "Sildenafil"

 

These substances should really be prescribed by a medical doctor and I was kind of shocked to see they weren't.

 

----I think you were right in your first post...if you are Okay to be taking them in the first place, then there is little downside, as per my Dr...

 

 

 

If you are entering Canada with medications that normally require a prescription here you best have the prescription (or the placard from the pharmacy baring the name of the prescribing physician) or could run into trouble.

 

----Yes...I have a prescription here for all of them (V, C and daily C) in case I ever feel like getting them filled, however I declared pharmacy items to the counter agent and there was no further questions or search.

[bcguy42 38594]

One of the downsides of ED meds being regulated by prescription becomes apparent in the following exchange:

 

Me: "I'm calling to renew my meds."

 

Perky young lady at Pharmacy: "No problem. The regular meds?"

 

Me: "Yes"

 

Perky young lady: "And do you need the Cialis, too?"

 

Me realizing I haven't scored 4 times in last month: "No, that's ok."

 

Perky person: "Oh, ok then."

 

Suddenly I feel much older, inadequate, and wonder why Miss Perky needs to know about my sex life.

 

Sigh... But ultimately, this is a First World Problem and the pleasure enabled by the med is such that I would go through 20 Miss Perkys to get there!

[roamingguy 300292]

One of the downsides of ED meds being regulated by prescription becomes apparent in the following exchange:

 

Me: "I'm calling to renew my meds."

 

Perky young lady at Pharmacy: "No problem. The regular meds?"

 

Me: "Yes"

 

Perky young lady: "And do you need the Cialis, too?"

 

Me realizing I haven't scored 4 times in last month: "No, that's ok."

 

Perky person: "Oh, ok then."

 

Suddenly I feel much older, inadequate, and wonder why Miss Perky needs to know about my sex life.

 

Sigh... But ultimately, this is a First World Problem and the pleasure enabled by the med is such that I would go through 20 Miss Perkys to get there!

 

When I go into GNC to pick up more l-arginine there is a young (early twenties) attractive woman that usually works at the check out. It's got to be friendly banter between us, words to the effect, that stuff's working for you etc etc etc. She very pleasant, seems happy that an old, well middle aged guy is still active. If she knew how classy and beautiful the women are that I see she'd be right impressed with me (oh ok, maybe that part is what I tell myself LOL). Anyhow, at least for me, I don't care that some woman might be wondering about my sex life...it could be much much worse, I could have no sex life at all.

As a sidenote after the talk about how long it takes for viagra to act. I noticed a change within 30 minutes of first taking l-arginine. And now, taking it regularly on a daily basis, no ED problems at all. In fact the only time I stood on the sidelines so to speak since using l-arginine was when I injured my foot (sprained it) and the doctor told me to stop taking l-arginine because it could affect the swelling (l-arginine affects circulation) in my foot. One more point, irrespective of what ED medication/supplement you use, you still have to be aroused...if your not aroused ED medications/supplements won't help.

A quick rambling

RG

[igab 5629]

 

I am not aware of any plans covering the cost of Viagra or Cialis etc...

 

Most good plans do. Mine does.

[roamingguy 300292]

Much cheaper in the generic name "Sildenafil" in DR or Mexico etc..no prescription like "Backrubman" said.

Tell him to go there on vacation and bring back a supply, or get a friend to do it on their next trip.

 

 

Just had my annual physical, and the Dr told me he has 80 year olds asking him for Viagra...good for them!

 

I am not aware of any plans covering the cost of Viagra or Cialis etc...

 

Mine does just I can't use Viagra or Cialis. But it doesn't cover the cost of laser treatment for your eyes, instead just the partial cost of prescription glasses. Guess the insurance company has the right priorities LOL

RG

[BuckyKatt 419]

Mine does just I can't use Viagra or Cialis. But it doesn't cover the cost of laser treatment for your eyes, instead just the partial cost of prescription glasses. Guess the insurance company has the right priorities LOL

RG

 

 

The actuaries probably figured out that they will have less costs overall if they keep the employees happy by supplying free meds. Readers Digest says that laughter is the best medicine. Uh uh, it's the second best.

 

bk