Gentlemen, what are your feelings about.....

[Guest S****r]

.....some form of token compensation for last minute cancellations. I mean, like--at the moment the person is expected to arrive?

 

It doesn't happen often, but it does upon occasion, and after work today was one of those days. Someone had booked a two hour date almost two full weeks ago. He confirmed both yesterday and this afternoon that everything was a go. Based on that, I scurried from work over to my incall, jumped in the shower, shaved, did my hair and makeup and put on his lingerie request. While getting ready, he messaged to say he was going to be 15 mins late. I responded that it was not problem. Then, the next message was an apology, saying he can't make it after all, that he has run out of time. I suggested he come for a shorter appointment, since I had already made all the effort to be ready. But all I got was another apology.

 

Besides the fact that my expected income for the week had just take a sizable hit, there was also

the work I went through just to get to the incall and do all the prep work.

 

So I put my regular clothes back on and drove back home. But I couldn't help but think that some kind of token donation would at least have been some compensation. I know some girls require a deposit ahead of time just for that reason. If not that, what about at least a partial compensation?

 

Because the donation that you gentlemen make is not just for the time that is actually spent in your presence, but also for the prep time and effort that preceeds it, as well as the tidying-up time afterwards.

 

How do you gentlemen feel about that proposal?

 

Ladies, I already KNOW how you feel! lol

 

I eagerly (and respectfully) await your responses.

[Hollywood Thomson 553]

This has always been an issue with the industry we live in, people contact you, set up appointments and cannot follow through with them. This does lead to some girls and guys double booking and can lead to negative reviews as a result, especially with newer providers who are looking to develop clients, trying to get as much money as possible as there is definitely competition.

 

As someone who was playing small fish, small pond as a male service provider posting on BP, I had many times where I would get last minute calls late at night asking for services, I would prep and then no-show. It is why I started working from home, used one level for living, another for working as it meant I was not booking hotels for appointments, going to cities, etc and having clientelle not show up.

 

I would be open to a form of prepayment ahead of time in terms of dealing with man of the girls on here who have made a real livelihood out of this, not those who are simply shotgunning ads on --------, and accept payment through their site for a partial payment, potentially 1/8 of appointment cost and have it so it can be throu interac, visa, mc, amex and make it something discreet to at least cover costs.

[Tallguy007 4172]

I had though it evident that if you cancelled, especially so late that the the other party cannot reasonably replace your business, that some form of compensation would be in order. This happens in other appointment -based businesses, so why not this one?

 

"How much" is a thornier question. Not sure whether this aspect is up for discussion.

[Royalfun 55448]

As a hobbiest, when I request an appointment with a Lady, I consider that I do commit myself toward the provider. It happened to me a couple of time that I had, at the last minute, to cancel due to some emergency related to my work. In those cases, it was obvious to me that the burden of my hectic schedule could not be on the shoulders on the provider, and I offered the full donation, and supplied it.

 

I expect from the Sp that she will be ready for me and available for all the time I've asked. When we agreed on a date and time, it is obvious that the Lady will prepare herself in advance, and her time is not only given during the appointment, but goes beyond.

 

I would consider normal that, at least, the hobbiest offers a compensation, and, like I said, a full compensation would be appropriate. It is up to the provider to accept or refuse, but at least, she will have the possibility to decide what is the best scenario for her in the circumstances.

 

My experiences with SP are only related to the CERB ladies, and I find that we have here the "crême de la crême" of people; to make that possible we have to treat the ladies accordingly.

[MeatBeater 957]

I think if both parties agree upon an amount and also the fact that the amount applies to both parties cancelling, I think it is reasonable. Otherwise after the fact I don't think either party should expect any monies.

 

If the lady cancels however, it makes the money transfer much more difficult, but again, the situation needs to be clarified up front.

[Hastings56 1148]

I think it's only fair to give your SP something ie......the usual donation or at least a portion there of! I know this is a business my fellow Cerbies but, I personally could not and would not do that to any lady who I have shared intimate time with ......or hope to in the future!

[roamingguy 300291]

Well speaking from personal experience this is what I have done.

In one case due to illness I had cancelled at the last minute (well a day early)

I paid the donation in full to the lady via email money transfer. Consideration wasn't just that the cancellation was last minute, but the lady tours and was already out some expenses (plane tickets, hotel etc) done in part because of my commitment.

In another case, I postponed (not cancelled) an encounter due to my truck breaking down and my funds for the encounter were used to fix the truck. The encounter was postponed a couple weeks, and in consideration I increased the time we had together (our original encounter was 3 hours, I increased it to 4 hours) not to mention consideration in my tip to her too ;-)

You ladies provide an escape of companionship and intimacy, in some cases friendships.

And as real as this escape seems to be, I never forget at it's very core, for the ladies, this is their livelihood. It pays their bills, pays the rent, puts food on the table etc. When you cancel out at the last minute of a committed encounter, you have also deprived the lady of getting another client to replace you in your time period

A rambling

RG

[Phaedrus 209521]

.....some form of token compensation for last minute cancellations. I mean, like--at the moment the person is expected to arrive?

 

Should he? Yes, absolutely. He's wasted your time and denied you the chance to schedule another appointment, thus also costing you money. And for cancelling at the last second, I don't think we're talking about just token compensation here.

 

Will he? I guess that's up to him. You probably can't force him to.

 

Will you just laugh and tell him where to go (politely, or otherwise) next time he tries to book? Or refuse to take his booking without a pre-paid, non-refundable deposit? Will you tell the other SPs here who he is, and that he's a time-waster, and warn them about him? I guess those things are up to you and how tolerant you feel...

[Guest ot***amal***]

In this case he definitely should compensate you for the canceled appointment. It's a case by case basis on what you should do but he dropped the ball here. If he can't man up add him with the other losers on cowboy's diary.

[Hector17 9215]

I had to cancel 2 appts in back to back days last month due to illness...NOT at the last minute however, and both were regular favourites that I see often. NO...I did not offer, nor did they ask or even hint about compensation ...I was terribly sick..they understood. If they were sick...I'd have understood too. We have all happily seen each other several times in the last 6 weeks... my point is that while there are a lot of noble gestures being suggested, every situation and relationship is different.

 

If it was a first time appt and you felt blown off then I understand how you feel...if he is a regular and someone you have a connection with, then maybe a bad day was at play and it will be made up for next time, or over the next few encounters. I'm sure I dont have to tell you that you take the good with the bad. Sorry for your being put out that way by a careless, disorganized fellow.

[MeatBeater 957]

Maybe because I was off topic was the reason I was the only poster to not receive thanks :D joking I don't care.

 

But seriously, cancellations work both ways, I have receive a cancellation while in a cab for my appointment so things like that do happen. I did not ask for compensation, I chalked it up to "shit happens".

[Guest D***el B***e]

I truly respect and adore the SPs and MAs I see regularly. If I had to cancel at the last minute I would definitely either pay for my lost appointment, or make arrangement with her to double up on my next appointment. An SP or MA will take the time to get ready for you, ensure she's always looking nice and proper, expects you at the scheduled time and if you don't show up, you are depriving her of immediate income. I think she deserves to get paid on a last minute cancellation. However, I have had to cancel before but was able to provide 48hours notice of my cancellation. In this case I do not believe I need to compensate her as it provides ample room to re-jig the schedule. I'll bring a bigger gift at my next visit to make up for the loss :-)

[Fresh start 17467]

Fortunately I've never had to cancel an appointment. I've even had to leave work early to make the appointment on time due to work schedule is unpredictable.

If you miss doctor or other professional appointments you are usual charged the full fee or a cancellation fee. I do not see the difference here. I would understand if the client gave sufficient notice time like 24 hours as long as no expenses have been made by the provider.

If I were in you're shoes, it may cost a client, but in the future if this client calls again I would have to request a deposit for any other appointment until my confidence in this person is restored.

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

Interesting thread. I think it should be up to yourself. You can't regulate something like that in this industry.

 

I do think that this is a two way street though. When I book an appointment I take time off work, shower before hand, go to the bank, drive to the location, etc. My time is valuable too! When an SP cancels last minute, I too have incurred expenses. This has only happened twice and while disappointed, I chalked it up to circumstances beyond our control.

 

For what it's worth, I have paid for an appointment that had to be scrapped last minute, but that should be left up to me and what I feel is right in that instance. Car accident, no. Less justifiable reason, yes.

[RoddyThomas 2746]

I think there should be a fee. My doctor (15 years with her) charges $75 if you miss an appointment. Guys need to man up. Life happens, and there may be the rare occasion when an unforeseen circumstance arises, like a family emergency or a fender-bender, but as I see it, I am still responsible for the Sp's time, and lost donations. I would apologize and ask her what she felt was fair. I think half the fee is reasonable. It is disrespectful for a client to expect the SP to absorb the loss, when she was waiting on you.

 

If an SP cancels at the last minute, it would be nice if she offered a token gesture of apology for the next time, but I wouldn't demand it. It is different as all I lose is a great time!!!

[Guest S****r]

Thank you, guys. By the way, I did not ask him for anything. Just wanted to know your thoughts. It is just hard to take a big financial loss like that. I have never cancelled on a client either, so that thought never even crossed my mind. Thank you for bringing that up.

 

Also, I fully agree, if he were a regular I would feel very differently.

 

One gal told me that she thinks some guys think we are "ladies in waiting" and that they don't realize how far out of our way we go for an appointment.

 

Anyway, thanks again, to all!

 

Others, please still feel free to comment! Your thoughts are important.

[livefast1098 2151]

Being in the retail, commission oriented sales business I would say I'm understanding but unsympathetic to the issue. Everyday commission sales people are treated like crap by browsers who intentionally waste their time to "touch and feel" the real thing but never intending to make a purchase because they'll save 2 bucks buying it online. The clothing business is particularly affected nowadays by this practice, shoes especially.

 

It sucks but salesman have grown to accept this and other similar practices as a cost of doing business.

 

Now my point isn't to say it's an acceptable practice, far from it. And the particular case study that started this thread is pretty bad but I have a hard time with the institution of a standardized "monetary compensation" rule.

 

Like some have suggested each situation as to be evaluated on its own merit. There are other methods to curb this if it becomes a trend, like blacklisting repeat offenders. Deposits or payments in advance will hurt business on both sides of the equation IMHO.

 

Anyway that's my 2 cents!

 

Oh! and I was forgetting. Just like the previous poster (Steve McQueen) I was cancelled 3 times when in the lobby of the hotel waiting for the room number! twice by the same provider 2 days in a row!! I never asked for anything ... but you can be sure I never went back.

[lastchance69 914]

You shouldn't really have to ask, I would think if you cancel at the last minute you have to still pay for the full appointment. It happened to me a couple of times too once car broke down on the way to the appt and an other time I couldn't get away from my 'normal' life, but both times I went back and paid up.

[mrgreen760 37785]

If I had to cancel and if I provided more than 24 hours notice and it wasn't an habitual thing then I wouldn't offer any form of compensation. Inside 24 hours I would expect to pay something because of the lost opportunity. There may be a negotiation depending on circumstances and notice provided of the cancellation.

 

Peace

MG

[Winnipegcub 21293]

In just about 4 years I have never had to cancel an appointment. I've been delayed a couple times due to flight delays but have always been in active communications with the lady usually by text. Surprisingly I have been no showed/cancelled on at the last mintue a few times by ladies. With no excuse I just choose to take my business else where.

 

I would have no problem with a cancellation fee. It is probably best to communicate that clearly while making the appointment and in particular if a first time date. It is likely harder for the lady to bring up after and if the guy really cancelled without much explanation he isn't likely to offer up a cancellation payment unless it was clear before hand. If the guy isn't serious he will likely move on when you describe a cancellation fee. But that might be better than the no show.

 

Cub

[Guest S****r]

One thought that crosses my mind as I read this is that the doctors, dentists, etc. even sales people as mentioned here, are still being paid for the time spent at work when the person does not show up. For the cancelled escort, she receives nothing. I could have either booked a different client for that time, with proper notice. Or I could have just driven straight home from work and spent the time with the family.

 

But the bigger concern is the loss in pay. It is more equivalent to your boss deciding one week to dock your pay by 200-400 dollars without your agreeing to the arrangement. Suddenly you can't pay the bills you expected to pay.

 

You are right though. Life sucks sometimes. And I am not crying over this. I just wanted to know other people's opinions.

 

Thanks.....again! :-)

[Guest N***he**Ont**y]

Perhaps a new policy of prepayment for First timers would be appropriate.

[aimtoplease1 1839]

But the bigger concern is the loss in pay. It is more equivalent to your boss deciding one week to dock your pay by 200-400 dollars without your agreeing to the arrangement. Suddenly you can't pay the bills you expected to pay.

 

 

I do sympathize with you because my daughter works in an industry that depends on clients & offten she gets no shows...I hear about it all the time.

 

For being docked $400...that's four 9hr. days for me before tax....

[Tsukiyo_Chevalier 3242]

From my point of view i have a hard time looking at it from others, as everyone has a different personalty. I have never missed an app. and i never intend to because i always book well enough ahead of time to make sure that when the day comes i an free. I do know that things like a car brake down or something can happen that were not plained for, and if this was to happen i would let the lady know and rebook the appointment if needed. i would always make sure that the lady was compensated someway. The reason i think this is because i like to try and be friends with however i am with and i know all the trouble and time they go thou in getting ready. controversy if the lady canceled at the last min. and did not have a reason or treated the situation unfairly. I would just never go back to her and find someone else.

[Guest S****r]

@ aimtoplease1

That's a big hit to have to take, isn't it!