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Please, whatever you do don't contact other members looking for the street address,phone number,rates for an SP. Do that on your own, simply send a pm to the lady you are inquiring about, (don't worry lads... the ladies don't come out of the computer screen and bite you). I get numerous requests from(newer) hobbiest requesting info on the ladies,that she does not even put in her advertisement. Why would I answer that for you? What makes you think I would know? Did you read the recommendation section? I have protected the SP'S I've seen by sending a pm to them, "that so and so contacted me looking for your address, and phone number " those ladies have thanked me for not giving out that info if it was not posted in their ad. Remember YMMV... and the please, just ask yourself, you will not get that info from me.

just want to add to those who have been wary of some gals attending this event and other socials as I have dealt with this week and before and many other gals have as well: .... these socials as dumpy described are an awesome chance to meet the ladies and other members on the boards. It is a public gathering so no sex is expected (or even after). As a well known SP on the boards amongst other great ladies, many of us dont have opportunities like this to socialize with each other. and many members (interested in poly-events or not) have the opportunity to meet first hand the ladies on the boards....something that many ladies like myself charge social fees for when its a one-on-one meeting. a proper business is sometimes 50% networking....us gals and gents see this as no different, but it would be great if some judgement would cease. I asked for clarification on the timeframe because our last "lunch" was from 4-7pm. This current one was more like the previous....a prior to noon endeavor. As said in the group main-page some time ago tho, if some cannot stomach the socializing of said group, please dont pass judgement, as most socials I've been to are strictly a networking opportunity. snacks and drinks and shaking hands and maybe a round of pool. That being said I look forward to the social on Thursday. My past experiences with these socials have been nothing but innocent mingling and then hanging out after with choice folk at a bar of choice if we're all getting along...some go home, some stay, but hopefully everyone realizes that this group is far from disrespecting the choice of the ladies involved. end rant. see you thursday folks, xo

obviously I favor the more blunt words but I agree as always with Erin, I've known many dancers and almost became one in my more fit days until I learned first hand of the dog-eat-dog-world of being one....and that class and poise got you nowhere when competition arose in th SC scene. being an SP gives you the control to see who you want to see, trust your gut and follow through and be YOURSELF....not a lady in line whos paid a house fee competing with a dozen other catty ladies who most of the times are EXPECTED to offer extra mileage when they leave the club. aside from the highjacked notions, I know you have recently joined PK. Good for you in your self-words and confidence in your decision. only advice I can give towards agencies being now indi is: 1. make you restrictions clear and never abide to acts or locations that make you uncomfortable. know that you have the right to say no...even at the last minute. always be in control. 2. always report bad or disrespectful clients to your agency and if you dont wish to see them again, have your agency respect your wishes. 3. plans change, lives change direction etc.....if you should break ties with your agency there should be no drama or threats. you are your own person. (this is not a comment towards PK....just a comment that has been raised lately that no SP can break ties without drama)....if you choose to go indi, your agency should support your decision. 4. Make sure you schedule and wages are clear. 5. Keep your personal info to yourself, no contracts or signatures are required. You are entitled to keep your home address private from drivers and have a meeting point closeby. if this request is not respected it is potential fuel for fire at a later date should things get messy (once again not my feelings towards PK, just from my own experience its best to keep "you" to yourself. best of luck Suri! xoxo

Yes, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. My problem with SA and his comments lies in the fact that he is trying to speak about a subject that he cannot possibly understand fully unless he has actively engaged in said subject and acts as though he is the be-all and end-all word on the stripclubs, simply because he frequents them. I watch gay porn all the time, that doesn't mean I have any authority to discuss what it's like to be a gay porn star. It is offensive to those of us who DO know what it's like and to say that it's safer than escorting is complete BS. Each has their own respective dangers and pitfalls. That coupled with the fact that he seems to think he's Suri's benefactor and has been putting words in her mouth left and right throughout this thread. Unless she asked you to come on CERB and act as her representative, stop talking for her.

That spectrum may make sense to you as a customer, but as a sex worker, the spectrum doesn't really work the same way. You may think that women who sell sex would have absolutely no problem with dancing, but I have known many services providers who shun the thought of $20 dances for multiple men each night as degrading and cheap, and then there are dancers who shun sex work as degrading and cheap. Each business presents its own challenges and rewards. There really is no linear perspective the way a client seeking services sees it. I think the biggest problem with dancing over escorting is that you have to hustle and face rejection. Also, when you talk to 20-30+ men a night, surely a few will be rude to you. It's rare I leave a shift without having a guy be an asshole to me. I don't know if escorts would say the same thing. Also, the rejection can really wear on you and your self-esteem. The competition is harsh, unlike escorting, you are working right next to your competition. ***The job is about so much more than just the mileage provided.***

The definintion of lass " is a female sweetheart", and this lady is a sweetheart. It was kind of funny, I reported to the wrong building she and I are talking away on the cell phones, she says in beautiful scottish accent, "no lovey,look over here I'm in the window next building over" I look over,and nearly trip over my tongue as I see this lady in the window wearing a beautiful white lingerie, and these great legs in the outfit. I get up there like a bullet firing out of a pistol! We greeted each other with a very nice kiss and hug hello, and I just had to grab her lovely ass, yummy,I say this is going to very nice. I just loved her accent, we chatted away got comfortable, and the next thing I'm doing is taking off her white garter and stockings...ya baby..Pete is going to make this lovely lass feel welcomed. I kiss,breath warmly,around her legs,inner thighs,turn her to kiss her soft succulent beautiful bum, and then back to her moist wet pussy,she is already moaning grabbing my hair,pulling my hair as she is getting sexual aroused. I kiss,lick her pussy, and now she pulls my hair harder, I'm loving it cause she is very wet,she says "you love to lick pussy,and you really know how too" I'm paying full attention to detail(her wet beautiful defined pussy)... not to her chatting just yet, but all the sudden out comes the dirty talk...all I remember in between her legs was She says "I want your cock" "I say in due time Sam" Some more DATY and now with digits, she is loves it, and really yanks on my hair..I like it.... She now offers and gives myself some really nice oral, and I mean very nice, I whisper to her "Whats your favourite position" She says "I love them all"! We get on the edge of the bed and ride cowgirl, she is motoring up and quite quickly,I grab her ass cheeks and say, "not so fast, lets go real slow", she is now DFKing me like crazy, and she is a great kisser as well. I stand up holding her still in cowgirl position, we are deep french kissing and I turn her completely around and lay her on the bed into missionary position,her arms are held above her head we kiss passionately, and I'm riding her like she is the only one in the world that matters right now, some kissing on her beautiful breasts and then back to her mouth, finally after a duration of time I fill the jacket. We lay there holding each, carressing, kissing, and small chat. Sam offers myself a really nice massage, tells me that I was very giving man, a very sensual man..well sir I was happy to oblige, as I found her to be very giving too, and such a beautiful lady, thanks Samantha for a splendid afternoon. Gentlemen she is a sweetheart, so treat her that way. Pete

I'm sorry, secret_admirer, but dancing can be very cut-throat as CowboyKenny described and it is most definitely survival of the fittest. Dancing also can be harmful. One of my friends tried it and ended up having a really bad experience that hurt her badly. I've had dancer friends who've been assaulted. I think dancing can be done correctly, but there are safety precautions that need to be taken into account. If Suri chooses to go into dancing, I would want her to do so with her eyes wide open. Suri - If you choose to go into dancing, feel free to PM me. Okay, getting lapdances does not make you qualified to talk about the "emotional consequences" of stripping. Please just stop. I feel your advice is dangerous and so I'm responding in this thread so that Suri and other women considering dancing will listen to people who've actually been there, and not a lapdance customer.

SA, while I respect your opinion, you are NOT a dancer, and frequenting strip clubs doesn't make you an expert. What happens with you, is not how all clients act. Just as much demeaning crap can happen at a strip club, even so-called classier joints like the Nuden. Like guys who will try to stick their fingers in you when there is a strictly no touching between the legs rule. And that's sexual assault, my friend. And there is a TON of competition between dancers, classy or not. You have to be able to hustle and it's entirely different than escorting. I hate to be blunt, but unless you've been dancing in a g-string yourself, you ain't got jack to say.

My advice to you Suri is while you're going to school, you might want to work for an agency that will accommodate your schedule. You might want to follow Erin's recommendation for Ottawa Playgirls. I use the same drivers as them and can assure you, they would never insist you take a call where you don't feel comfortable. (Not being familiar with how all the other agencies operate, this is not to say any particular agency would push you to work, just that OPG would not). I believe you mentioned in another thread, something to the effect you didn't like all the secrecy, so I would not recommend dancing as you will really be putting yourself "out there" and unless you're thicked skin and able to put up with the "hustle" mentality that goes along with being a dancer, you will hate it even more than escorting, believe me. I think dancers end up putting up with more bullshit than we do, in the end. Because you are younger, you will ultimately put up with more bs than I would, being more mature, but at least you have the agency watching your back in the way of accountability, security and screening. With the escorting, it's best to be realistic about a reasonable availability schedule and having an agency do the bookings, arranging for the driving, will be less stress on you. Because OPG only does outcalls, you don't have to worry about risk of breaking the law doing in-calls. Then you may not "hate" it so much as you did when you first started. I got the impression that perhaps maybe you overdid it. I am sure because you are young and cute, you would be quite popular. But it's important not to burn yourself out. You will get jaded very quickly and it will leave a permanent bad taste (no pun intended) in your mouth about escorting. When I first escorted up in Grande Prairie Alberta, we were literally pushed to work, work, work. It was the early 90s, and the money up there was flowing like oil. Because escorts had to be licensed and be affiliated with an agency in order to work, if you didn't do what the agency owner said, you were fired. So, those working conditions were extremely stressful. I remember one time, after my 10th call in as many hours, I literally sat in the bathtub, numb and cried, asking myself, what the hell did I sign up for. The $2,000 I made that day didn't make up for it. Some girls would jump at the chance to be able to do 10 calls these days, but let me tell you, no one can keep up that pace for very long without resorting to some kind of "pick-me up" and that is a whole another subject I will not get into here. Now, I am content with up to three calls a day. But that's me, at 45. (I couldn't do even 5 calls in a day even if I tried, now). So, think about going agency again. There's lots of time in the future to be an independent if that's what you decide to do later. But for now, believe me, from SP to another, that would be your best bet.

Look, I do *both.* That is, I work for an agency and I have my own clients who I see independent of the Playgirls. Tracey knows that I'd never see a client of hers outside the agency and I keep that trust by never breaking it. In this way, I can offset the money the agency takes by seeing two or three of my own clients per week. You need to do what *you* what want to do. Don't be bullied or take any shit from people who will tell you that there is no point working for an agency because they'll just take half your cash. Weigh the pros and cons and decide what is right for you. I like working for an agency because I absolutely DO NOT have the patience to deal with the inane, offensive, ignorant requests/questions and often, atrocious spelling and grammar that comes with scheduling your own appointments. I'm terrible on the phone, I work much better in person. That's what I'm good at. So I let an agent take care of the crap I hate and I don't mind giving them a portion of the fee to do it. Also, if I'm having a shitty day and I'm not emotionally capable of seeing a client, I don't have to. I just don't go on call. I don't have to explain to anyone why I'm not working, or have an excuse for why I don't feel like it. It is not *always* about making the most money. It's about making a living in a way that is most enjoyable for you. Some of us do this because we love it, not because we're blinded by dollar signs. That being said, to answer your query, I can only recommend my agency, the Ottawa Playgirls. I've never worked for anyone else, and I wouldn't want to.