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I have a love in my life, her name is Vivian. She came into my world a decade ago and has been a constant source of support for me. She never demands and she has never disappointed me. She has stood by me thru thick and thin, rich and poor, it never mattered to her. She gave me shelter from the elements when I had no where else to turn, kept me warm on cold nights and willing dragged my possessions where ever I need them to be. She never complained when I played the music that would let me release the tears. She just let me feel what I needed to and when it was over, she was there to take me to the next phase of my life. She has been a true friend. I have not always been as good to her as she was to me. Sometimes I didn't have time to tend to her issues, even tho I knew the problems would only get worse. Time is not kind and she is now needing attention and I have decided to step up to the plate and do everything in my power to put her right, regardless of cost even tho many consider her too old for such things. Vivian is a 1990 Volvo 240. She isn't sexy or sleek. She doesn't have shapely fenders or fancy headlights and her trunk will hold more junk than can be imagined. Her interior is in excellent shape, tho simple and not luxurious. She isn't a hybrid or a diesel, she doesn't quite get all the emission hoopla. But she is solid, her body is relatively unmarred by the salt she has had to drive in, her belly is still rust free. Her engine purrs and she starts every time the key is turned no matter how long she has sat. She is a 5 speed and has spunk, enjoys a good drive up a mountain road and loves to get out on the highway and run. She has "stealth mode" which I cannot explain. I've never had a speeding ticket when I know I deserved many. I can drive down a highway topless (I hate air-conditioning) and no one notices. She attracts no attention, which in my opinion is a priceless quality to have. So why is it every shop I have taken her to wants to talk me out of putting her right? Why is it better to replace her than fix her? I just don't get it, and it frustrates the hell out of me. I understand she is never going to be worth monetarily more than she is right now, but that isn't the point. I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR! I want MY car fixed! Why is it better to replace than repair? Mechanically, she is sound. I have never missed an oil change or maintenance. I've done the math, and with all the repairs done and what I paid for her, she will have cost me a grand total of $1 per day since I bought her, not including gas and insurance. Once she is restored, I know I will get another 10 years of driving out of her, maybe more! The sneers and snooty laughter ring in my ears still. The looks of "your a woman, and you have no idea what you're doing" are seared into my brain. Their ignorance made me want to scream at them, which made me realize how truly important it was to me to get her brought back to her original form. The light bulb moment was that it's easier for me to replace the man in my life than it is my car. Hmmmmm, food for thought. In this day why is new better? I disagree fundementally and refuse to adopt this mentality. She may not have the curves worthy of restoration, but she is a great, solid ride and not yet ready for a wrecking yard. I will not abandon her for something with heated leather seats and a GPS. We need to spend a little more time honoring what is instead of coveting what we could have. I realize the day will come when I cannot find parts and she will have to retire, but now is not that time. Just a little rant that I thought you boys would understand... cat p.s. I found a wonderful restoration shop who did not laugh or snicker and by spring I will have her back ready to roll!

hey folks...it has been a while since I ranted...let alone since I did a little rutting also....but that is another story.... My favorite topics...... Chat....... and trying to negotiate prices...... This time they go hand in hand....so to speak. I am in chat often...and I like to chat and get to know people and the ladies.....it is fun but also frustrating. You see when in chat, you often see people pop in and out so fast you wonder why do they bother.....I was in one day and saw 12 people pop in and out in less than 1/2 hour. I know why they bother. they are looking for the ladies...they want to ask them mostly stupid questions. so are you available? are you actually a woman...you look like a TS? instead of $200/hr.....would you like 2 hours at $300? will you turn on your cam for me? can I turn on my cam for you so you can watch? (this was not me) Then there are those that just plain ignore any one unless they are female...then they start....with all the questions....or they just chat in private and do not participate with the public chat. It is amazig how many of the "chat lurkers" I see have zero posts...nothing....not a word for months......or ever....... What alot of peole do not understand that once you get to know people on chat or in the forums by, the posts you read or what they post.....you get alot more information back. It is true.....gain a bit of a reputation...even if it is 4 posts on ladies you have seen.....it is better than nothing......and if you are known a bit in chat....the same applies. and for God sakes...do not try and negotiate prices........grow up.......the prices stated are the pices to be paid.....if you can not afford it...move on.......save up a little play money. I have to hobby when I can...as money dick-tates (yes I did that on purpose)...I wold hobby all the time...but I save my money for the times and ladies that fir my requirements. I know...same old...same old from me......

The reasons we men seek out SPs are pervasive. For me, as a single Dad and not wanting any kind of `relationship`,going to an SP was an outlet. It fulfilled a `basic human need`, no strings attached...-just spend some quality time and be on my way. My life is full with my professional obligations and my kids that this works out great. My experiences started about 3 or 4 years ago. And all of it was fine for that what it was meant to be at the time. But I must confess that I am not one looking to explore any sexual fantasies. I just wanted to get laid occasionally and it was good for me. And then, after an odd set of circumstances,I met another SP and it became kind of a regular thing for me with her and her alone. I was in my own comfort zone. And then I found myself becoming quite attached to her. I genuinely liked her as a person. OOPs! That can be a real game changer!! Some of you, guys and SPs alike,may be able tro identify. And we developed a very high level of trust in one another. No longer was it about the "basic human need" for me but more about the companionship and intimacy at much higher levels than one would expect in this situation. In any event, you can see where this is going--I`ve written about that before. I have seen other SPs and, no offence ladies, it is just not the same. Duh!!! You just can`t mix business with pleasure (so to speak) unless both of you are on the same page. And you can tell when the feelings are similarily mutual...but that can make either one of you a little skiddish, don`t you think? Because the rules under which you both started the business realtionship in the first place are no longer the rules. So--who blinks first? Me, because I never wanted a `relationship` in the first place? Or the SP, becasue she just can`t afford to mix the two and maintain her professionalism? I think the answer is obvious. It is the SPs livelihood, or a big part of it, and she must do the right thing for her. The only thing that is left dangling is the friendship that has been forged--there becomes a bond. You cannot dismiss that. Friends are hard to walk away from and nor should they be. So--for some of us men (not all of course) we get attached. And that is part of our personality, our physical needs combined with emotional ones etc etc. Perhaps if I was sexually narcicstic (my own term with no scientific basis) I would not feel as such. But I do feel this way and I came out of that "business relationship" actually really giving a damn about that special SP. All the best folks

Past experience has taught me that you will have more ladies sit down with you if you are alone rather than in a group. I was at Pigales a few months back with a few coworkers. We were loud and having a good time, but not one girl sat down at our table and started chatting unless we initiated the conversation. It was not until my coworkers went to get some shooters that I found myself alone at the table, and less than thirty seconds later I had a couple nice ladies join me. Barbs would be the same. I too had to get over the initial awkwardness of sitting down in a strip club alone. But a business trip to Ottawa and a hotel across the street from Barbs helped me get over that. Basically, I just realized that whether you are in a group or sitting alone, we are all doing the same thing. So if I am a dirty perv for sitting alone, then you are a dirty perv sitting with a group of dirty pervs. We are all there to look at the naked ladies. Just my opinion.

Well the first time with Tanis was great. I needed to see that ass again so i saw her again last weekend. She came over and i got to admire that wonderful ass again! :D First time, i got to experience her status as a greek deity. The second time around... i got to see and experience what a greek can accomplish! The first and second time, i got to see how a girl can squirt and make you feel satisfied at the same time! :bowdown: After seeing and making her squirt twice on my bed, i got to :motion: that wonderful ass. Almost made her squirt a third time, but the :bddog: was too great! She wasnt kidding when she says if you hit a certain spot for her, she can make you :D! :P Wonder what the third time will be like...

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I have no idea how this post got into this discussion - it was supposed to be for the "removing odor" thread...sorry folks. Not an auspicious first post...ha.

We considered this but we want the ladies to be able to use the site free. If they want to show support they buy a ad on escorts-canada (It will benefit them and cerb). Once they have a ad on escorts-canada for 14 days they can gain access to the SP ONLY area (This gives them 100 photo spots as opposed to 25 and gives them a much larger IN BOX for PM's) now they do not need to have a ad on EC to gain access but it is the easiest way for them to gain access. Only the moderator/admin account can see the infractions and you can see your own infractions. No one else can see these infractions. They are just records so that we know who we have talked to and about what. No need for them to expire... it's actually very important that we can look back and see what we have spoken to people about... but we only look back when they break another rule. DV had 8 infractions (7 for the same thing) and he was ignoring my warnings and continuing to break the rules. REALLY WASTING MY TIME. We had some emails back and forth and not that he has been suspended I hope he stops breaking the rules now. He was among the group of people I reinstated today.... We DO NOT want the site to look like CL or other spammy sites so we have SPECIFIC rules to providers when they post. Everyone should read this page as this is the MOST broken rule on cerb is the POST TITLES RULE http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_sprules As many of you know I use to manage a number of gentleman's clubs and I even owned one years ago. I doubt much has changed and the attitude before was many "LOW MILLAGE" Dancers look down at escorts for having sex and other dancers who do "Extra's" in the clubs. The two don't always mingle well and we are seeing that with "Massage" as well.... we also have many SP's who don't offer things like BBBJ or DATY and look down at SP's who do. Everyone should just get their heads out of their asses and respect each persons personal choices. Just because someone is willing to do something that is a little more risky than what your comfort zone allows does not make them less of a human being. Period! Here! HEre! Again, encourage the ladies to buy banners here and ads on escorts-canada.com. If you really want to DONATE buy your favorite SP a month worth of advertising on EC or a 3 month banner here on CERB as a gift. Many of the guys do this for the ladies! That is and was our goal from day one and it's not easy to do but it can be done. The senior/elite members here help a great deal and I thank you all for that. Let's hope 2010 just makes the site that much better. A HUGE system update is available for the BBS SOFTWARE that runs this site. It makes the site more social (Like facebook in many ways) it even has BLOG features and all sorts of stuff... but some of our software is not compatible with it fully yet (such as the chat room, photo albums, etc...) we need to upgrade all that first. Also the SKIN we use to make the site look the way it does now is NOT available with the new release unfortunately so we may need to change the look a little or have it custom created for the new version. We will hold off making the update until we are certain we can do it without any major issues.