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Sounds like this could be a recipe for disaster. If your roommate wants to spend time with a SP, that's one thing. Tricking him is probably not a good idea. How do you think he will feel if this woman is all into him, and sleeps with him, then won't see him again until he pays $$$ ? That could do more harm than good. I'm sure your intentions are good. Why not just tell him the truth and let him decide for himself?

I knew other women who dated older men and there was always some sort of underlying reason as to why why young women do this. If you really think about it, they are looking for something they could be missing. A father figure, wanting to act as if they are older, stability whether it's emotional or financial. Most men will think that it's great that a 20 something is showing interest in them because the man wants to relive his youth all over again and this young woman will help him do that but only for a short period. What happens when the young woman wants to pursue her own life and ambitions and starts to understand what she wants? The older man will be dust in the wind. Ask yourself what is it about young women that attracts you besides their youthful looks and body? Sure they have no baggage but baggage is a part of life and is a part of life experience. What is it about an older woman that scares you? Is it the fact that they're aging physically and this may cause you to stop and think about yourself beginning to age as well? At the end of the day the 18-25 age group will not be there when you want to talk or do something that is of interest to you. They are busy creating their own experiences in life and an older man will stop them from doing that. Sure they may have some fun with you temporarily but in the end it will never work. There are no common characteristics for a relationship to develop to the fullest. I hate to say it but most men feel the way you do yet many are in committed relationships and will seek out that 18-25 year old woman for a brief encounter to fulfill their fantasy but they know better to not go and pursue it any further. And even if they did, it will only be for a short while. This type of "ageism" is also carried out into the escort world. I have seen certain guys frequenting review boards for years now and they are always into that one age group. No one above that age is considered worthwhile to them and when that one escort they were once swooning over hits say age 28, she is considered 'too old' for them. Again they are on their quest for that next hot 18 year old. But that's business and seeing escorts is all about fantasy so age discrimination is a given. I also agree with another poster to try and find out why you are no longer attracted to your friend who is now 30 years old. Is her innocence that she once had now gone? Does her maturity reflect on your own mortality? Is it because you feel you can no longer 'lead the way' in your relationship with her? Many men have that instinct to want to take care of a younger woman and now that she is older she may not need you. Is it because you need to feel needed by someone who will look up to you for your insight and wisdom? Everyone is going to get old including all those ladies who are on this site right now that are in your preferred age group. I was once one of those women and while I have struggled with the fate of 'getting older', it is inevitable. It seems that once you are out of your late 20's, you are considered old in society or getting up there. Lately there has been a considerable amount of ageism going on in society today. Years ago, 40 was considered old for a woman. Now it apears as though a woman is old just after turning 30. That's insane if you really think about it. Your life is just beginning at this age. There are proably many reasons why you have a fixation on this age group. I think you have your own reasons for feeling this way but it is not based on the opposite sex, their youth or their young tight bodies. It all has do with how you feel about yourself and how you are aging.

I have a love in my life, her name is Vivian. She came into my world a decade ago and has been a constant source of support for me. She never demands and she has never disappointed me. She has stood by me thru thick and thin, rich and poor, it never mattered to her. She gave me shelter from the elements when I had no where else to turn, kept me warm on cold nights and willing dragged my possessions where ever I need them to be. She never complained when I played the music that would let me release the tears. She just let me feel what I needed to and when it was over, she was there to take me to the next phase of my life. She has been a true friend. I have not always been as good to her as she was to me. Sometimes I didn't have time to tend to her issues, even tho I knew the problems would only get worse. Time is not kind and she is now needing attention and I have decided to step up to the plate and do everything in my power to put her right, regardless of cost even tho many consider her too old for such things. Vivian is a 1990 Volvo 240. She isn't sexy or sleek. She doesn't have shapely fenders or fancy headlights and her trunk will hold more junk than can be imagined. Her interior is in excellent shape, tho simple and not luxurious. She isn't a hybrid or a diesel, she doesn't quite get all the emission hoopla. But she is solid, her body is relatively unmarred by the salt she has had to drive in, her belly is still rust free. Her engine purrs and she starts every time the key is turned no matter how long she has sat. She is a 5 speed and has spunk, enjoys a good drive up a mountain road and loves to get out on the highway and run. She has "stealth mode" which I cannot explain. I've never had a speeding ticket when I know I deserved many. I can drive down a highway topless (I hate air-conditioning) and no one notices. She attracts no attention, which in my opinion is a priceless quality to have. So why is it every shop I have taken her to wants to talk me out of putting her right? Why is it better to replace her than fix her? I just don't get it, and it frustrates the hell out of me. I understand she is never going to be worth monetarily more than she is right now, but that isn't the point. I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR! I want MY car fixed! Why is it better to replace than repair? Mechanically, she is sound. I have never missed an oil change or maintenance. I've done the math, and with all the repairs done and what I paid for her, she will have cost me a grand total of $1 per day since I bought her, not including gas and insurance. Once she is restored, I know I will get another 10 years of driving out of her, maybe more! The sneers and snooty laughter ring in my ears still. The looks of "your a woman, and you have no idea what you're doing" are seared into my brain. Their ignorance made me want to scream at them, which made me realize how truly important it was to me to get her brought back to her original form. The light bulb moment was that it's easier for me to replace the man in my life than it is my car. Hmmmmm, food for thought. In this day why is new better? I disagree fundementally and refuse to adopt this mentality. She may not have the curves worthy of restoration, but she is a great, solid ride and not yet ready for a wrecking yard. I will not abandon her for something with heated leather seats and a GPS. We need to spend a little more time honoring what is instead of coveting what we could have. I realize the day will come when I cannot find parts and she will have to retire, but now is not that time. Just a little rant that I thought you boys would understand... cat p.s. I found a wonderful restoration shop who did not laugh or snicker and by spring I will have her back ready to roll!

EDIT: I've decided NOT to go through with the original plan, but instead will try to help my roommate get a job, get some help and get back on his feet...if he'll let me help. I appreciate the responses, but no further posts or PM's are needed to further enforce the negative aspects of the original plan. Cheers . Andrew Okay, so I want to do something nice for my roommate, and have an SP spend some "special time" with him in February. He's been out of the game for 2 years now, and it's starting to get to him. He's depressed, sleeps a lot, has no job, no school, it's a wonder to everyone how he can afford to pay rent. I think if he gets rid of his "blue balls" so to speak, it will be good for him, and he might feel a little bit happier about his life and actually try to get a job or try to find a girlfriend. Basically, I would pay you for your time, introduce you to my roommate as a friend of mine (from school or something), and then say I have to go out and do something, leaving the two of you to get to know each other a bit more intimately. If there are any SP's out there that would be comfortable with an outcall for someone other than the person who is paying for your time, please send me a PM. I'd be very open to increasing your normal rates as this is a special case. Also send me a PM for further details or questions. Just a heads up, he hates "spinners", he's a bigger guy and likes women who can handle him (apparently). Please don't flame me, I realize there are possible negative consequences to what I'm doing, but I'm just trying to do something nice for my friend. Again, if interested. PM me. Cheers, Andrew P.S. Mods, if this is in the wrong spot, please move it to the proper spot. Cheers!

SA -- I think some of the answers you seek lie within the statements you make. For instance, you say that you have always been attracted to the 19-25 year old group of ladies. But you state it as a conclusion ... why exactly are you attracted to that age group? I think you need to understand that, and I think as you look at the issue more closely you will find that is helpful to working through this issue. I would say that it is common for clients, or guys that like hanging out with younger women that they are trying to find or preserve their own youth. Also, have you ever had a committed or long-term relationship with someone of that age group? I would guess not, but I could be wrong. What were the dynamics with that 22-year old that wanted to move in? Was it mostly financial, or was the girl seeking a level of security? Was she looking for a more stable person in her life? The good news is that as you discover the "whys," you can seek out people closer to your age (or at least within 10 years) that possess those qualities as your likelihood of success is going to be much higher IMHO.

The reasons we men seek out SPs are pervasive. For me, as a single Dad and not wanting any kind of `relationship`,going to an SP was an outlet. It fulfilled a `basic human need`, no strings attached...-just spend some quality time and be on my way. My life is full with my professional obligations and my kids that this works out great. My experiences started about 3 or 4 years ago. And all of it was fine for that what it was meant to be at the time. But I must confess that I am not one looking to explore any sexual fantasies. I just wanted to get laid occasionally and it was good for me. And then, after an odd set of circumstances,I met another SP and it became kind of a regular thing for me with her and her alone. I was in my own comfort zone. And then I found myself becoming quite attached to her. I genuinely liked her as a person. OOPs! That can be a real game changer!! Some of you, guys and SPs alike,may be able tro identify. And we developed a very high level of trust in one another. No longer was it about the "basic human need" for me but more about the companionship and intimacy at much higher levels than one would expect in this situation. In any event, you can see where this is going--I`ve written about that before. I have seen other SPs and, no offence ladies, it is just not the same. Duh!!! You just can`t mix business with pleasure (so to speak) unless both of you are on the same page. And you can tell when the feelings are similarily mutual...but that can make either one of you a little skiddish, don`t you think? Because the rules under which you both started the business realtionship in the first place are no longer the rules. So--who blinks first? Me, because I never wanted a `relationship` in the first place? Or the SP, becasue she just can`t afford to mix the two and maintain her professionalism? I think the answer is obvious. It is the SPs livelihood, or a big part of it, and she must do the right thing for her. The only thing that is left dangling is the friendship that has been forged--there becomes a bond. You cannot dismiss that. Friends are hard to walk away from and nor should they be. So--for some of us men (not all of course) we get attached. And that is part of our personality, our physical needs combined with emotional ones etc etc. Perhaps if I was sexually narcicstic (my own term with no scientific basis) I would not feel as such. But I do feel this way and I came out of that "business relationship" actually really giving a damn about that special SP. All the best folks