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This is a discussion I get very passionate about. Having sat on both sides of the fence I can say with certainty that it is a community effort to provide quality industry wide. Here is a little insight into both agencies and indies that many do not understand. Both serve a specific clientele and are necessary. Some may find it interesting reading, others will not. AGENCIES The agency acts as an AGENT for SP's that choose not to handle the business side of this industry. The Agency works for the SP. Here is a situation that can be ideal for ladies who are not business oriented, do not want their bodies plastered over the internet for a myriad of reasons and make a choice to allow someone else to do the tasks they do not want or can't do. It is the easiest gateway into this industry and a perfect place for a beginner to get her feet wet. Beginners, tho the demand is high for them, are the most unstable and unreliable group to deal with on a day to day basis due to their age and inexperience. You never know how this business is going to impact them mentally, physically and spiritually. Agencies need staff stability so their SP's are on shifts which means they may be working when they would rather be home in bed. Agency staff have to be receptionist, negotiator, schedule manager, counselor, confessional priest, fashion adviser, bookkeeper, trouble spotter, deescalation expert and last but not least task master just to name a few of the hats they wear simultaneously. If there is more than one person on the phone at a time they are lucky. Good Agency staff have more on their plate than anyone imagines. If their plate is not overflowing, they are not doing their job. I had many wonderful girls come to work for me that seemed very well suited and by the third week they were a mess. Why does this happen? I constantly tried to improve my agency to ensure my girls were cared for. 10 years later, I am proud to still call many of them friends. So what was the problem? The only factor that was consistent and I had no control over was the clients. Many men who use agencies do not treat the SP as a person. A girl can run 5 appointments in an evening and it only takes one to screw her night up. This is not a business for the tender hearted or thin skinned. Because Agencies have a younger SP base, the girls take things personally and there can be serious damage done to their self esteem. The damage can be cumulative, and 6 months after a sweetheart starts she can end up seeming hard, uncaring and cold if she is not protected and cared for by her Agency. Many Agency SP's carry shame about what they are doing because they are still operating on the belief system our society instills in most of us. All it takes is one client that has that "your disposable" energy and she's hit. He doesn't even have to say anything, it's a feeling and once it touches you, you can't scrub it off you with stainless steel wool. Younger SP's haven't yet found their inner strength as a woman, let alone make friends with the wildness within. Most struggle with living a secret life and trying to reconcile who she thinks she is with who she truly is. This not just a job, it is a challenge to ingrained beliefs that have been there for generations. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to jump into this industry. It takes perseverance and a rare determination to stay in it long term. Running with an agency can be incredibly hard even for a seasoned pro. More often than not, SP's arrive on the Agency steps with more baggage than a luggage carousel. No little girl grows up wanting to be an SP. 99% of the time life hands them circumstances and they end up in a bind for $$$. They look to this income to fix their problems. What they don't realize is that $$$ doesn't solve the real problems, just alleviate the symptoms. So if an agency SP doesn't live up to her ad, take a look at her age and try and imagine her circumstances. You very well maybe the nice guy who's booked after the jerk. That said, if you are not happy with your service, an agency has more leeway to rectify the situation by offering a next time discount or some other type of perk to keep a customer. But it is up to you to call immediately and let them know. They can't fix it if they don't know it's happened. There are many ladies who thrive with an Agency because they are people oriented and take their work seriously. You will find they are either older or have a maturity that is unusual for their age. A truly good Agency does not have a problem keeping staff, SP's or clients. There are certain markets that make it challenging for an Agency to maintain staff, and I take my hat off to Agencies that service Ottawa. This is not an easy market. Agencies in Ottawa charge what the market will bear and in my humble opinion you get what you pay for. Indies Indies are a different breed of woman. Most started with an Agency but figured out quickly that we like to have more control over our business. We understand the responsibility and dedication it takes to run our own business. Younger Indies are learning as they go. The difference between them and their Agency counterparts is that they can take the time off when they need/want to and do not usually maintain a regular schedule. Do Indies have bad days? Of course they do. We have the option of canceling our day, but we seriously risk damaging our reputation. We have the same "ah ha" moments as Agency SP's, but we have no one to blame when they happen but ourselves. We alone are responsible for who we entertain so when things go wrong we carry the burden, when things go right we carry the glory. We have to wear the same hats as the agency owner and be our own cheer squad. We also come to realize our faults and weaknesses quicker because we are a 1 man show. Indies are usually more comfortable with who they are and what they do. They are more willing to take responsibility when things go wrong. Who does a client complain to when an appointment with an Indie awry? Most clients say nothing, chalk it up to experience and move on. The client should let the Indie know so she can fix it. We go the extra mile because we understand the long term financial impact of losing a client. Are Indies better value? That all depends, what is valuable to you? cat P.S. I had more to write about Indies but my "s" button popped off!

GFE is a "Style" of service (Not specific acts and definitely not meaning a "superior erotic service"). GFE (Girl Friend Experience) means that the meeting will not be cold and to the point (Mechanical) it is a more intimate experience and does not imply or include any specific services. Questions like this are really answered with common sense. Chemistry plays a big roll in a successful intimate experience. If the guy is a dick or the lady does not enjoy her job intimacy will most likely not be on the menu with anyone (Indie or agency). Many Agency booked ladies have been recommended over the years. The agencies job is marketing the ladies, booking the ladies, answering calls, emails, scheduling, etc... The ladies often choose to work with agencies when (1) they are new to the business and (2) when they do not wish to do all this work themselves. Without the agency the lady has to pay for her own expenses like phone bills, advertising, etc.. and has to make additional time for scheduling, answering emails, placing ads, etc... etc... (This takes up a LOT of time)... Often well worth the cost of having the agency do this work for you. Don't assume that because the lady works with an agency she is not going to give you the same service. A reputable agency will not continue to book ladies that they get negative feedback as it damages the agencies reputation and in turn other ladies will not wish to work with them as the guys will not want to call them to book the same (or other) ladies in the future. It would just be bad business to keep the ladies who the customers complain about. Don't be lazy when choosing a lady (Like cutting out 1/2 the ladies by saying agencies are not as good as indies) do your homework. Find recommendations that sound interesting to you. Look for things that you value that someone else has experienced and don't be afraid to book a lady through a agency if she comes highly recommended! Keep this in mind... Good agencies have happy ladies and lots of business - bad agencies have unhappy ladies and unhappy clients (as they do things like bait and switch and demand the ladies work ridiculous hours - and often take too much $$ and not enough calls) A highly recommended lady is not going to work for a bad agency for long but many do not wish to work for themselves so they will seek out good agencies to work with. With well run agencies... the agency works FOR the lady (Not the other way around)

This is possibly the best thread I've read since discovering CERB last summer. I think everyone should thank Cat and the MOD for the light they've shed on the mechanics behind how an agency works. Everyone should consider themselves better for it. For my part, lacking the experience of many of the other members, I have had very excellent experiences with SPs who are agency and independant and some questionable ones on both sides as well. One thing I always try to determine is if the SP is treated well and protected by her agency, if there is one. But Cat brings up a point that makes my blood hot. Whenever I hear about "men" who treat SPs poorly, without provacation or reason, my patience definitely expires. It boggles my imagination how useless these guys are. It makes you wonder how they may treat other people in their lives, particularly an SO. I have always strived to make sure that I treat the ladies with respect and dignity, and if I have not then it is my failure of character. NO matter how the SP is percieved, they deserve to be treated well. I hope the ladies who grace CERB know how well they're regarded and appreciated and can forget the losers who forget it. Or didn't know it to begin with.

Leanna I felt like a new adventure today so came across an ad at CL which had an interesting pic. I contacted the individual which they were rather quick to respond. I requested further pics which they sent without hesitation. After little deliberation, I went ahead and booked the apt. To my understanding she also advertises in the local paper. The experience... I met Leanna for incall. I must say my jaw dropped when this gal opened the door. With her pretty blue green eyes, warm alluring smile, Leanna is hot and intoxicating standing about 5 ft 5" tall and about 115 healthy lbs. Leanna is a light brunette with some blonde highlights. It didn't take long and we were conversing in casual chat to become more comfortable. Leanna has a very pleasant personality. Before you knew it kisses were flowing. This gal loves to kiss and I must say her lips are very succulent. The moment was becoming intense and I found myself to caressing her beautiful natural breasts which are about 34 C's. I gently worked my way down to her sweet spot which I began to tenderly kiss and nibble. Leanna was quite responsive and vocal. Soon enough, love juices were flowing and she clenched her hips when digits were applied. Subsequently, Leanna had a mission to please and applied a very pleasurable "BBBJ" whereby we shifted to "69" with myself on top. Leanna gave the boys special attention. Leanna has a very nice bubbly backside which I just had to grapple. Greek was not on the menu. We enjoyed each other for awhile and moved on to intercourse whereby many positions were exhausted such as missionary, doggy, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and a side way missionary manoeuvre which was new to me. In all, the session was wonderful as we both orgasmed at the same time and cuddled after exhaustion to rest. More small talk occurred and Leanna is very open minded and down to earth and we moved to the shower for play which is a story in itself. ;) The rest remains between her and I. J To summarize; another wonderful Girlfriend Experience. Thank You Leanna! Repeat - absolutely! :)

the regulars, the guys that come in everyday, everyone knows them, they are the respected VIP members. the lurkers, they visit the club once and awhile, but never really get to know anyone. the 'high rollers', they participate, but they are always in the 'champagne room'. They see CERB as a place to hook up, not to socialize. the newbies, they don't know about much, they don't know the rules, at this point they have to make a good impression. Just like in a club, they have to earn their trust. The newbie can become any of the above. The bartenders, the bouncers, the managers, they're the MODs. They'll kick out whoever is drinking to much, or causing drama. Heheh... :rolleyes:

I'm independent in two businesses (I won't mention the other one here for privacy, but those who have met me know) so I'm familiar with the agency/studio vs. independent aspects in more than just the sex industry. I know for myself that I'm a lot more happy working for MYSELF, keeping all my money, setting my own rules, and running my own business. I also like that I can focus on the client only and his happiness instead of focusing on pleasing the client and the middleman. I also understand there are women who just don't have the time/energy/drive to run a business and doing a little part-time escorting for an agency is the best situation for them and I respect that. Just my thoughts :)

Agencies, don't really guarantee anything. the agencies market thier brand not the girl. so the girl is under pressure to perform services she may not be willing to do. I was with an agency for about a year maybe alittle longer, and if I didn't feel comfortable performing a particular service with a client I would get in trouble for it, as I became indie in June 2009 I am more comfortable with my self and what I am willing to do plus I do not have someone telling me what I can and can not do when I am with a client.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_savings if you scroll down the article...I really like the cartoon of uncle Sam........Get your Hoe Ready....hehehehehe the clock thing does not bother me......just like I have never exprianced jet-lag...and I have traveled around the world...and never get thrown off by time changes.....maybe because I never sleep........

Oshean EC- Very fun Beautiful mature lady who is very open and have a lot of fun. Niki Vallhala EC- Very good looking,but not all natural.GFE PSE is great.Great service and she seems to like her job (A plus). Monique EC- Very slim and tall lady.I was impressed by her website and her professionalism.She was super nice.I didn't mind about her implants. Harmony EC- She is from Edmonton.She is super nice and cool.Service is great and her body is very nice.I didn't mind about the implants.They are actually very nice. Lovely Megane EC- From Montreal.She was super nice.One of the best GFE I had in Ottawa.I am glad her site is down cause I couldn't stop looking at her pictures.She was so beautiful.She is retired now. Chloe EC - If you like a slim lady she is the perfect girl for you and her attitude is super nice and cute.I was glad she takes credit card and that's a plus.Rare are the independent who accept them.

Oh do I ever!! It was a friend's birthday and her one wish was to get a lapdance. We piled into her boyfriend's car and made our first trip to a strip club, Barefax. We had no idea what to expect but an empty bar was definitely a surprise. We made ourselves cozy in pervert's row and got to work on picking out "The One". She had to be hot, and she had to look like she was having fun. Unfortunately most of the girls looked bored, not to mention disappointed that their only potential clients were a handful of drunk chicks that were scrutinizing their lazy spins and hefty bellies. We were about to give up, but damn it, we must have dropped over $200 on booze and we were NOT leaving without some hot titty action. The bass is booming, the lights spinning and out of nowhere this spunky blonde hops on stage with the biggest smile on her face. Wow. She got to work on stage when her eyes met mine. She then dropped on all fours and seductively crawled towards me with a naughty twinkle in her eye. As she approached our side of the stage she grabbed my hand and dragged me up with her. Before I could regain my composure she unexpectedly removed my belt with the flick of her wrist and proceeded to use it to give me quite the sexy beating. I looked down at my friends who were simply dying with laughter as the lady in question buried her head between my legs. That's when I remembered why I was there in the first place. I slowly ran my tongue up her neck and whispered my sexy request in her ear. She looked at me, looked at my friend and gave me a nod. Several minutes later they both return with my friend rather breathless, sweaty and at a loss for words. "WOW!" she yelled, "Best birthday EVER!" That was it, I had to try this girl. I had never experienced a lapdance and she seemed like the perfect candidate for newbies. I approached her from behind, grabbed her lovely bum and slipped a twenty in her hand. She made a sexy purring sound and led me up the flight of stairs with the DJ giving me a big thumbs up. I sat down in the chair with her apologizing for the lack of privacy. I said I didn't mind, especially since we were the only ones up there. That was when she tore off my shirt and bra and stuck her tongue down my throat. Oh, yummy. I frantically ran my hands over her body, thrilled to even be in the presence of such a sexy, vivacious woman. She nibbled on my ear and whispered she had a surprise. She quickly ran off and I heard a faint buzzing that grew stronger as she approached me. She then removed my jeans and placed the vibrator between my legs. I started quivering and moaning which got her very excited. We made out some more with our bodies intertwined when the music changed its beat. "That's it, darlin'" she whispered. Until next time.

Very Honourable!