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You should get to know the person first before asking for picnic,amusement park and the like kind of dates. You really need the chemistry to make them work...i'm sure some ladies don't care about the chemistry but i do. One of the reasons i hate the term sp...i rather like being called an escort or companion. To me an sp provides a service while an escort/companion provides much more...the listener,the cuddle up with you lady,the lady that makes you feel as if you are very special...we want you to feel the best you ever have...We do it all...where as an sp gives you the "service" and that's it. that's just my ideas on this subject.... my rates are the same no matter what i'm doing because it's my time your paying for and nothing else...what we decide to do in that time is up to us.. kisses, Emma

I'd say lack of certain sexual services, seeing as it was stated that things such as being partially undressed, kissing and fondling would still be expected; which to me are sexual services. In my opinion, I don't think a lower rate should be expected or asked for just because there is no actual intercourse which is essentially the only thing that is eliminated in this scenario. Many SPs charge for their time, not specific services. If a gentleman wants to use his time with an SP to just cuddle, great! But don't expect to pay less for it. That being said, at the end of the day, every lady has the right to choose what they will, and what they won't, do and how much they will charge for their services. They should never be made to feel like they should charge less than what they are asking because of the elimination of certain sex acts.

While the OP had the right to request a particular service i found some of his posts offensives;I don't think it is fair to decide what is less or more work as activities... I personaly find some gents personality quite annoying and spending many hours snuggling or watching a movie might be more work for me emotionally &mentally than full gfe service.It is not because sex it is not involve the time spent is less valuable I personaly side on Emma post as someone pay for my time..not the service...So it doesnt matter if we play scrabble,strip-tease,wrestling ,have full service during our time together it remain the same rate. VJ

Thanks drunkin uh I mean dunkin (donuts?) sailor.. I was trying to think if indeed I had missed the mark on this guy and I can be overprotective of girls I feel and some I know are making less money in this biz. He has every right to ask a girl for a cheaper rate.. I just found it offensive on here in an open forum. I've been told my initial comment was out of line. I only found it to be true by his answer... right on the money... so to speak. I think asking a girl to play girlfriend in this way with you should only occur when you've already met someone and have such a rapport and can see she won't have to fake it with you for 3 hrs. That's way more excruciating than having sex. I know he wasn't personally asking me.. but when a guy tries to negotiate using charm and humor and whatnot.. it's even more offensive. Certainly I have a lot to learn about the way all girls do business. I didn't write the book. I have friends who are completely comfortable with BBBJ and even charging less for it than straight up sex. I have friends who have social time rates. I just choose very carefully regulars I'd REALLY like to spend time with so I don't have to fake it for longer appts. When I say fake it I mean spending time chatting with someone you find boring or cuddling with someone who's smell/touch you don't like. I mean it can be more excrutiating than sex.. So why agree to a lesser rate unless you already have a great rapport. Shouldn't it be more? It's infinitely more intimate to me at least. I snuggle with lots of clients... but some I couldn't bear to. Just being realistic. How do you know until you've met if you want to snuggle. Certainly guys crave intimacy. I believe that's the main reason to hobby for some. For some it's completely missing in their lives even if they're married for most. The part that offends me and perhaps why should it.. is the bargaining. I find it offensive in other cultures and never do it.. ''haggle'' even though it's expected! That's just me. As for saying the wrong thing. YOU care about whether or not you say the wrong thing. That's the most important feature about communication. And why I asked here? Am I the only one who sees this? I look for people to help me when I'm off base.. to tell me. so.. sorry if I steered people away from the genuine need for guys to talk about cuddle time appts. I personally feel you need to already be a client to ask for social time/overnight visits etc. Let's hear from other people!

I Love Diana Krall.... I had a session where I was totally into this Disney cartoons favorites compilation and for some reason he couldnt cum......I'll never know why. and yes I'm joking, LOL

Wow. Wow. Wow. This thread got out of hand for something I thought was a fairly innocent question. As always, my advice is to ask the lady in question and pay what she asks for.

Have no idea what you just said here.. Not sure if you are calling me a liar. I'm certainly not jealous. I am not one of the girls who offer a reduced rate FYI for social time.. I charge my regular fee regardless of where/how our time takes place. If you are calling me a liar.. just do it and spell it out. I can take it. This shows a lot frankly about your character. Crying to mod because you feel attacked by one word manipulation.. but have no problem attacking my character instead of properly explaining that you didn't really mean to manipulate anyone by asking for reduced rates considering the economy and girls filling their time by cuddling/fondling/foreplaying with you for a lesser rate instead of making no money at all... yeesh... and thanks guys/girls for the pms concerned about me but I'm fine. I can take it :) Pete.. as always.. you are a gentleman and a scholar :) sounds lovely..

I think the only kind of music that impedes performance for me is live. I had to ask Rod Stewart to leave my bedroom that once...

In all fairness 'social time' isn't a well known concept especially if your initial bias of escorting is the common understanding that it is for sex only. It is rare that a lady advertises this particular offering. I've only seen two in the last year, Victoria Jolie 9 rounds of golf and another SP's offer for 'blue smoke' (i.e. cigars). To your point, this thread might also be asking if there is a different/lower compensation if there is a lack of sexual service and there was at least one reply indicating there is. However it is also true that this does not imply all ladies should adhere to this and if they prefer to have the same compensation for any services so be it. Additional Comments: I'm with Ava Foxx on this one..... Unfortunately the rule of the game changed when the statement came into play. It is incredible rare to be in a social setting [1] and also topless. Lets step back......what is the understanding of 'social time'. To me it implies things done in a social setting and that are socially acceptable in the public eye. Spooning topless crosses that boundary. For me examples of social time would be dinner (and just dinner), movies, attending a theater/ballet play, shopping together, picnic in an open park. [1] nudist friendly environment aside.

Sorry to step in here, but a lower rate because of "no sexual" service is not only common but has been endorsed by several well known SPs on this thread. That argument holds no water, "can open, worms everywhere." ;) The point was made that there were some negative comments made about not only the gentleman in question but at any SP who might socially see their clients. Lots of insinuation about the motivation of the clients and the "professionalism" of those SPs. That has no place in this forum. We are all adults here, and every SP is free to chose who they see and under what terms. For another to openly comment on their business practices or professionalism on here is against the spirit of the board. The comments directed at the client speak for themselves. If a client is taking advantage, being a pest or is a danger, the SPs have a private section of this board where they can inform or warn (although that is a harsh word) their colleagues or "sister's in arms". Just as the clients can use the "Bait and Switch" section. I too, was appalled that an "until now" respected member of this board would make such comments in here. Perhaps those kind of views are best kept elsewhere, like someone's personal blog. Just my 2 cents, and if that is out of line than I apologize to the Mod in advance.

Wow... I really don't think she was attacking you.. I think she was making a statement. There are a handful of guys out there who seem much interested "making friends" more so than using our "services".. I get that you were joking around with your comments, but it did come off to me as one of these people who's looking more for a friend or "free time"... not that you are, was just my first thought reading your posts... I personally would never offer 'social time' to a new client.. I've done it before and it can turn into a big uncomfortable mess. I don't really see the point of this thread at all.. There are girls who offer social time, and on other ladies sites I've read that state; "This is not an offer of prostitution, you are paying for time and companionship only." Making this thread seems (to me,) to be more like a way of asking for lower prices because of lack of sexual services...

I said it before in another thread, I belong to other boards (Spud said it well) I just don't participate in them, as I find NO interaction within them, such as we do here. CERB is the best for all involved, as far I'm concerned.

*looks up from sucking a dick* Oh, what's that? Sorry, I was busy ;)