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I have been following this thread. I know the lady in question, and I can tell you this is not the first time she has been messaged her in this manner and the member didn't end up booking - thus wasting her time. How is she to know that "tonight is the night" based on past experience? That's like phoning up a restaurant and telling the Maitre'd - yes, I am am thinking of coming to eat at your restaurant. The Maitre'd, maybe flattered the first time, will soon tire if you keep calling saying the same thing, asking about the ambience, the menu, etc. and never make a reservation. So that third time he is "rude" to you, then you call his boss and say, "I was going to actually dine at your restaurant tonight, but your maitre'd was rude to me.". Same thing. How many time do we play the back and forth game before we are convinced it's really going to happen. This can literally take up hours of our time. Perhaps you got the lady at a time when she was just not willing to play the game. Sorry if you got caught in the cross-fire, but just put yourself in her shoes for a minute. If everyone did what you did, we would be pm'ing back and forth, literally for hours every day. I don't know any sp who has that kind of time on her hands. Again, if it's an appointment you are looking for, what's wrong with simply asking the question. Are you available tonight at such and such time. Period. Sorry, not to say I would have been as curt as her, but I would have put a halt to the back and forth pms (in the form of chat) pretty quickly. I have done this before and like I said, literally wasted hours of my time. Sorry, but when I want to chat, I go into the chat room. My opinion. If you think she was rude, then you are entitled to think that - so just accept it and move on. Obviously the appointment with her was not mean to be.

Seriously to the gents who are doing this, get your act together you make it harder for those of us who follow the rules to get things done. There's nothing wrong with short notice appointments, suddendly the mood strikes, or your schedule opens up... there's no harm in asking. But don't rely on email or pms as the primary source of communication, that's just plain crazy. This is why the police do not have a 911 email address :) And to those who've scolded a provider for not promptly returning your last minute pm looking for company, shame on you. Maybe they couldn't answer your pm because they were already busy with a client who booked in advance, maybe they were at work, school or otherwise leading a life. To expect a prompt and speedy reply for a possible appointment by way of PM is about as logical as expecting a prompt reply by canada post.

I was away for a couple of days, and I apologize to both ladies for my tardiness of putting this rec together, but work got in the way. Cleo and I were sending pm's about arranging an appointment together (strictly solo at that time) where I had noticed that Sara MQ was online here at CERB. I wanted to see Sara before she traveled back to Thunder Bay, and I thought what an opportunity to see her! and if lovely Cleo would be accommodating to entertain a nice threesome.So much has been said about the lovely attitude, and humor of Sara and of course her oral accomplishments in other reco's in TB.:bjs: Cleo was such a sweetheart and said "YES". A picture for the viewing audience of Sara MQ, very sexy lady! and one of my favorite pictures of her! And a updated picture of the Sexy Cleo Catra So now you have a visual gentlemen, and I will let you know there was absolute immediate attraction between both ladies, and well of course I was also very attracted and very hard during the hour plus session. Both Cleo and Sara hit it off meeting each other prior to my arrival, when I did arrive Sara is the type of lady is the life of a party, she is funny,attractive,talkative (unless of course there is something in her mouth) and loves the attention in a small gathering. I was totally amazed how both ladies were able to communicate share their affection for each other and please me. Without getting into very graphic details lets just say, that both ladies were very wet and responsive to all interaction. I was able to have Sara ride me in the cowgirl position, and she is one most excellent ride, her kegel muscles were pure heaven. Another thing about Sara, was her ability and full marks in oral linguistics she was able to really surprise me. After having my pleasures with Sara, it is always very nice with Cleo in her and mine favorite position:bddog: and then followed off in mish with Cleo and I got to play and lick Sara, while she was pleasuring herself so close to us. Cleo really gets turned on by the position we both enjoy,plus she gets vocal while enjoying it. All I got to say, if it is offered again, I'm in. I want to thank Sara and Cleo for the amazing time together, and if something does happen where Sara is in Ottawa more often? I will be ringing again! Ladies thanks for keeping me on edge for over an hour until I finally exploded! It was "funsexuality is where it's at" The thread that was going on about tattoo's, http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=32252 well the canvas of beautiful art work with both ladies was such a pleasure to be surrounded by. When you are having skin to skin contact, you are visualizing the beautiful ladies,eyes,mouth,eye contact,their bodies and of course the body art,I love it, so a big 2 thumbs up! Thanks Ladies again! You both have excellent attitudes and great personalities!

This is addressed to all the Gentlemen on the Board looking for short notice appointments (same day, within the next few hours)..... I had someone PM me and ask for an appointment within 3 hrs of the pm. When i didn't respond in time, was then told how "irresponsible" i am. Well as i have said time and time again, but will say once more..... I'm not always near a computer. I'm usually not even home. If you want to reach me short notice, CALL ME. I have a cell phone, which is always within arms reach and is on 24/7 for that specific reason. If you are shy and not comfortable calling, text me. Thank you gentlemen and have a wonderful day ;););)

The title says it all.......

It's funny how guys are quick to defend and point out that in other forms of business this wouldn't be the norm.. or that if they are pm'd to talk to another hobbiest they aren't rude.. but you are easily somehow forgetting the uniqueness of our business.. it's the business of sex.. no other business deals with guys literally wanking on the phone.. no other business deals with the type of rude questions we deal with. No other business literally sells our bodies.. think about it a bit more.

For the most part we don't sit around looking pretty checking cerb. Half the time I'm doing other things. I've had this happen to me as well and I have always said the quickest way to get a hold of me is to call. I've had many people fault me for not having a blackberry and not being able to check email. I had a blackberry and it was attached to my hip 24/7. I choose not to live like that anymore because I could never seperate my work life form my personal life and enough was enough. I have made it clear in my ads to call so if someone PMs me and gets upset that I don't answer in 1 minute, that's their problem. Life happens. Also take note that we could be busy with clients. That's why it's always great that I have another SP answer for me when I'm busy. I always try to pre-book on cerb or state in my ads to call me for same day bookings. 90% of people have complied with my request.

I was inspired by Luxie's post where she reveals some things about herself so we can get to know her better. I thought it would be fun if we shared some things about ourselves - nothing too personal or revealing, just fun facts. I'll go first. 1. I still hold a motorcycle license I got in 1984. 2. I have stood on sacred Indian land at the four corners of Arizona, Utah, Colorado and New Mexico. Nothing short of awesome! 3. I always wanted to get Alice Cooper's autograph, and I managed to! 4. I don't smoke cigarettes (never have). 5. I was at Expo '67. 6. My hair is real - it is not a wig as someone suggested one time. 7. Even though I consider myself a rocker, I own an Abba Greatest Hits CD. 8. I attended Ryerson when it was a Polytechnical Institute and you didn't need to swipe a pass card to get in the doors. 9. I hate licorice or anything that resembles the taste. 10. The first time I had sex, I was 16 and he was 24.

I ran into this today and had a good laugh and thought I would share?God I hope I?m not like this guy although my hairline is getting close http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6695715/

today I moved my daughter to Montreal. She is going to MC Gill university, that was the hardest thing I ever done. If you think man cant cry you are wrong. I just felt that I needed to share that.

LOL! Okay but I still don't think you just slipped it in the conversation, not bad though and pic worthy. Here's a few of my favorite quotes: The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity. -Voltaire I prefer to be a dreamer among the humblest, with visions to be realized, than lord among those without dreams and desires. -Kahlil Gibran The question to ask should not be: Do we have something in common - reason, self-consciousness, a soul - with other animals? (With the corollary that, if we do not, then we are entitled to treat them as we like, imprisoning them, killing them, dishonoring there corpses). I return to the death camps, the horror that convinces us that what went on there was a crime against humanity, is not that despite a humanity shared with their victims, the killers treated them like lice. That is too abstract. The horror is that the killers refused to see themselves in the place of their victims, as did everyone else. They said 'It is they in those cattle-cars rattling past.' They did not say, 'How would it be if it were I in that cattle-car?' They did not say, 'It is I who am in that cattle-car,' They said, "It must be the dead who are being burnt today, making the air stink and falling ash on my cabbages.' They did not say, 'How would it be if I were burning?' They did not say, 'I am burning, I am falling in ash.' In other words, they closed their hearts. -J.M. Coetzee

ENJOY! :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen: http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx17/Ava_Foxx/sextape.jpg

It's also uniquely a business where the client has to sell himself to the escort. It's not a cut and dried product based business with customer support. Escorts often ''fire'' their clients. Escorting and seeing an escort has more similarity to getting a date than it does securing a job... and like Megan pointed out you can do this job very badly in many eyes and still make a decent living. It's completely unique in so many ways.. but the fact does remain it was rude. It's brought up a completely different discussion but part of it started out as a he said/she said.. My point canuckhooker wasn't meant to be guys against girls.. because both guys and girls have been for and against. I should have said unless you are a male escort you have to think a bit more about what it must be like to sell your body.. not because of the danger factor.. simply because it's completely different than selling a product or even another service. How about being a hairdresser.. or RMT.. or physiotherapist or even psychotherapist where you have a much closer contact with your client and can also 'fire' them or refer them if you are not a good fit. None of these would be rude to a prospective client in that way..likely. But again as Megan said ...In this business alone does bait and switch take place where clients still often pay! In this business can you even be rude to a client and eventually that client may call back or even win his way back to being a client. I doubt a client of any other business would do that.. I know I'm probably spelling out the obvious but many clients also don't have a clue what other guys are doing. Some are surprised that they aren't the only nice guy you see and that others must be all hard on us in one way or another.. smelly or what not. Other clients are surprised at how easy it is to book. This is all still a learning process in communication. I mean how many of us can put up our hands and say we've never been rude to a complete stranger for no good reason other than they were in our way at the time. I've certainly flipped the bird to someone cutting me off on the road. I've said worse to others. The anonymity of the internet makes it one less step removed from that of a phone call and several steps removed from an in person communication.

I appreciate where you are coming from but I believe we all bring a unique perspective and unique experiences and depending on where we are in life this will be reflected in our actions. We have to have some flexibility and offer allowances for that as we don't know the story here passing judgement on someone else just doesn't seem fair without full disclosure. We don't know what happened, we do know we were not given the entire story and we don't know the other lady involved nor do we know what her side is. Like you I have extensive experience outside of this industry and I apply that knowledge to this industry. I will however agree with Carrie that it doesn't always apply, I can't imagine what HR would say walking into this work environment. :shock: :lol: In regards to this situation it reminds me of an RFP I was working on back in another life. For months we were putting the proposal together, everyone was on it but the client kept making changes, altering the deadline, changing the scope, etc. Everyone on our team was getting frustrated as we were sinking hours of work into it and there was no end in sight. Eventually there was a meeting held, everyone on the team was there and despite this being a potentially huge account the decision was made that we would not pursue the account anymore. There had been another push back on the request, analysts, researchers, writers, BD execs, even the interns would all need to sink even more hours into this account and we wouldn't see a penny on it for months and that was if we were to win the proposal. At that point everyone was angry, frustrated and no one had a kind word to say about the company. Now in a large company they have someone senior and client facing to contact the client and diplomatically withdraw us from the RFP process. What's important to remember about this industry is that most ladies are young, new to the business world and running a one lady show. What do you think would have happened had my company asked the intern to please contact the company? :ablow: We learn with experience and a lot of the women out there are doing the best job they can and are doing a great job for taking a first or second job that is fully independent. This can be a pretty high stress job with a lot of responsibilities and a lot of work, I think it's unrealistic to expect them to be working at senior management levels right from the start.

Yes cerbites, lets take this opportunity to show our appreciation and extend our thanks to our mod for his very hard work, strong fair and decisive moderation and therefore for making cerb such a friendly fun classy community to be proudly part of. Congratulations mod on your 3000 posts and thank you so much for eveything.

I honestly don't see how having or not having tattoos should have an effect on whether you find someone attractive or not. I am a heavily tattooed woman, and I will admit to finding tattoos hot on others - however, I've been attracted to, and dated, many people without them, because I liked the person. And I've had many people tell me that they generally dont' find tattoos attractive - however they find ME attractive, because there is something about me they like,not just my skin. I would seriously be disappointed if I found out someone came to see me just because of my tattoos. I can obviously understand them being a factor, but to me, they're not what stand out about myself. I love the way I look and would feel the same, with or without the ink. I do think there is a stigma of sorts attached, and one I don't actually understand or know how to explain. But to anyone who says I've tarnished my skin, or anything of the like, I could just as easily pass judgement on your hairstyle, or choice of clothing - but why would I do that? To each his own, and I think it would be sad to miss out on spending time with a great person just because they put ink into their skin, or because they didn't. Also, just to throw this out there, even WITH all of my tattoos, I have worked in fine dining establishments, been a bank manager, and worked for the government - and DAMN I looked fine in my business suit, with no visible tattoos at all. And the men who found me sexy then were never disappointed to peel that suit away and see the colourful images beneath it. Just my two cents.

This just baffles and astounds me. We call the ladies in here SPs because they provide a service. We discuss professionalism and aspects of the business. Some of the complaints in this thread show a fundamental misunderstanding of how client focused businesses work. I can't think of any business where you deal with clients that you don't have examples of them failing to read instructions, asking silly questions, being demanding etc etc. Not all of the clients, but some of them. It may be annoying, but it goes with the territory. How you handle them is what is important. The SP in question had several choices: she could have ignored the message (takes no effort) or she could have responded politely and tactfully saying something like "I don't carry on conversation by PM, please contact me when you wish to book or have a question not answered on my website." The latter response took the same amount of effort as answering rudely and probably would not have cost her a potential client. Was the satisfaction of making that response enough to compensate for losing that potential client, and possibly others to whom he could have told the story? I have worked in client support in IT, the hospitality industry and in retail. In none of those fields would that type of rude response be tolerated and that behavior could result in an employee's termination. It would certainly not be good for business. Working Tech support I had an employee show up wearing a T-shirt that said "RTFM". Do you think I let him anywhere near a client wearing that? He got sent home, and the incident was noted on his performance evaluation as a serious lapse in judgement. If I could have fired him I would have done that. To answer Ava's point, again I am sorry but all that extra time is called "marketing" or client management. I work retail selling sporting goods. Do you think that my only job is taking money from a customer and handing them their goods? No, I have to advertise, promote, talk to customers, tell them why my product is better etc etc. The money I make on the goods I sell, factors in all of that extra work. In the case of an SP, answering e-mail enquiries, phone calls etc is just part of you attracting, and keeping clients. Not every client I talk to buys my stuff, but if I don't talk to them, I can be pretty sure my sales are going to be a lot lower. I would wonder how an SP would get a client without advertising or taking the time to respond. Not every response results in a "sale", but if you don't respond you don't make many "sales". I know clients, customers etc can be annoying at times, but we have to deal with them if we want to remain in any business. I am sure 90% of the people on this board, SPs and clients, deal with things of this nature on a daily basis. If you don't like dealing with people then maybe you are in the wrong line of work.

As someone who hates planning to far ahead ......:ablow:..... shit allways seems to happen. I tend to be more of a call and see kind of guy. Knowing this I also realise more times than not I won't be able to get an booking at the drop of a dime and am more than happy to try again another time. It's just so inapropriate to blame the lady if you can't get hold of her in time. Don't we all have lives to live?

Any of our service men and woman, especially those in Afghanistan putting their lives on the line day in and day out. We complain about the summer heat, and no a/c, those soldiers are in full combat gear in an environment so hot that our summer heat wave looks like a nice spring day Also anyone in the public safety (law enforcement/firefighter/ambulance etc) and health care fields And as a side note, there was a repatriation ceremony not that long back (one of too many) I was on the Highway of Heroes Every bridge crossing the Highway of Hereos, there were vehicles, firetrucks, police cars and people standing. Very emotional to see. RG

I have been guilty of short notice requests as I seldom know in advance when I will have some free time. Afternoons can sometimes mysteriously clear themselves and it can’t hurt to ask if someone happens to be available. I would never however, hold either a lack of response or a lack of availability against an sp. It is not their fault I am so poor at planning ahead. I also would recommend trying a different means of communication in addition to the pm for short notice requests. “Logged on” does not necessarily mean sitting in front of the computer.

As the contact info wasn't included in the initial review, thought it would be useful to add it here: E-mail: [email protected] PM: Annessa2009 Phone/text: 613-203-5748