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Just thought I'd pass along an FYI. Was at the vet yesterday with my daughter's cat and noticed they are taking donations of pet food for Winnipeg Harvest. Makes sense if you think about it. We dropped off 2 big bags of dog food and 2 bags of cat food this morning. The receptionist said all the vet clinics are collecting food so you can do this anywhere in the city.

I didn't want to say anything, as the thread had already gotten very negative, but I totally agree with you and when I read whiteman's post it really ticked my off, way more than TRmans comments. How can you possibly be part of this board for so long and have this So Wrong? I am Not a Chinese Restuarant nor have I ever advertised myself that way!!! Just because I posts my prices to avoid people calling to ask my rates, does not mean anything and everything is up for grabs. No matter how much cash you offer me. It's not like I put in ads "offer me more cash and you get more mileage"! Pardon my french, but WTF?!? Inform me Whiteman, but exactly what wrong lesson am I teaching? And please tell me how I or any other SP is encouraging bargaining on This Board?!? And P.S. Even Chinese Restaurants can refuse to provide service, no matter how much you're willing to pay for your Chicken Balls.

I am uneducated formally, I have no degrees and my high school diploma was handed to me on the sole condition that I did not return for grade 13. Unlike the other ladies who have pursued formal education, I chose to take a different path, to care for the people I loved that needed care, raise a family and try to survive. I could not do what I have done in my life on a Tim Hortons salary. I realize I am not everyones cup of tea and many can't afford my consideration; the key is that I know I am eliminating potential clients because of my rate and I do so for a reason. I set my rate knowing the level of service I provide is of a quality that a certain niche seek; I present myself to ensure they understand that I offer luxury. They are willing to pay for it because they already know that they get what they pay for whether it be a car or an experience. Negotiating with me will not get you in the door. Ever. cat

I'm very fortunate and lucky to not only live in this great country but also have the resources to help those less fortunate than me. I give throughout the year because there's always a need but I feel it's more important to give now mostly because Xmas is all about kids to me. It doesn't take much to make a difference. Aside form the usual this year I took the money I normally spend on myself for fun and games ;) and donated it to a variety of charities. The adults in family will receive a card of thanks and a bottle of wine, the kids will get a gift and a card of thanks as it's never too young to learn about giving. Have a Happy and Healthy Holiday Season and if you can help those who are less fortunate. Peace MG

The majority of MA's do not offer digits. You should NOT try to do so without her consent. Ask first!

I believe most us know how long and uncomfortable it is to take pro pics, how much energy, time and effort is put into them and the cost! You asked for information/advice on what to do and she gave it to you! So why are you bitching back at her? I believe you have burnt alot of bridges here, so be greatful that someone was still willing to give you right and good advice!

My Christmas wish list! The biggest thing I have asked for this year is for people to donate some time to learn a little about Autism. It is possible to help a young child have a better quality of life if they get the help needed in the first 5 years of life. Please take the time learn the early signs and be proactive and get them the help they need. You might even have a friend that has a child with autism but do not know it. The best thing you can do for that friend is to blunt and come out and tell them. Lots of people are in denial and just say he is a late bloomer. This is the worst thing they can do for their child. Early intervention is key, a human brain develops the most in the first 5 years and Autism impedes the development causing different parts of the brain top develop outside of society’s “Standards”. Unfortunately the health care system does not recognize Autism to be a medical problem and will not help the young child until they are in a regular school. By that time the brain has developed and may not be reversible. Not all cases of Autism can be cured, but many of them can be helped at achieving a better quality of life. Be Proactive and not reactive like the government, please donate some time to read up on this matter, and help a family that is affected with this condition. Even if you can take the time to learn the routine of a child that you know, so that you can give the parents one night to go out or a night off, it could be the best gift you give the parents for Christmas. While you are with that child, you will see how much work is to have a child with special needs and might be shocked to see how intelligent they are, I know that I am amazed every day. Apex

Everyone definition of PSE differs enough that you should really ask the SP in question. One SP described hers to me as being raunchier.

Most of the time I visited MP, I always asked for reverse. First, good chemistry must occur between you and MP. Once you and MP is "click", the rest is just question of how you can persuade her to accept such action (digit). I would teas her first with good technic by gently massaging her inner thighs and move up gently to her lips and clit. Do not concentrate only on her lips and clit, but rather keep moving up and down her inner thigh and linger a bit on her lips. Such sensation will make her in a kind of trance. With gentle persuasion you may be allowed to enter her with your finger(s). Good luck.

What you describe seems like card skimming. Debit cards are considered equivalent to cash and the actual terms of services allows the bank to consider purchases with debit as final. Credit card use to be treated differently, liable for only the first $50. However the new chip cards have a different terms of services. Read yours, mine says I'm now liable for all purchases. Ugh! a 4 digit pin isn't going to stop anything. What does help is the fact that I have to slot the card in plain sight. Makes it much hard for thieves to skim the card. But still...... Bottom line, credit card is safer then debit card but cash is always king.

I agree with your points. To me, outside of the "naughty" words which CL blocks (btw, naughty is one such word), there is no excuse for bad grammar, punctuation, use of ALL CAPS, and spelling errors. It is an advertisement, not a text message to friends after all, and the person posting it is running a business (her own or maybe it is an agency posting ads). There is no excuse good enough for a shabby presentation in advertisements, imo. Because at the end of the day (seen here in this thread) for those it matters to it matters a GREAT deal, and for those it doesn't matter to it won't make much difference. But for the first group, they will not see such an sp. For the 2nd group, they will see an sp who spells correctly too. So the sp who spells correctly, takes the time to present herself professionally, will see guys from both groups. The sp who does not, will only see half of the potential clients. So, an sp who does not take the time and care to write a proper ad is not taking her business seriously. An sp who does not take her biz seriously may be assumed to be an unprofessional and unconcerned sp in general in every aspect of that business, meaning she can be assumed to provide bad service. Yes, a lot of assumptions, but what else does a reader have to go on other than that first advertisement, and what she has chosen to do and not do when posting the ad? The thing is, for the clients representing the first group, that is exactly what they assume. They will stick to the sps who advertise as Angela mentioned, and they will take the time to tell the sp exactly why they are contacting her. (I get the same comments all the time as well). So an sp can choose to be complimented and chosen based on the quality and care she takes with this initial presentation (the Ad), or she can sit around and wait for the guys from the 2nd group to check out her ad. 8)

I've had a sales position for the past few years and the one thing that shocked me when I started was people asking for deals, bargains and discounts right off the bat. Just last week someone tried to negotiate the price of one my most expensive products because it had been on sale several weeks earlier and it was Christmas (and she was quite rude about it from the start, which really didn't give me any incentive to cut her some slack). I had never even considered haggling for anything growing up but to a whole lot of people it's second nature. Having said that though, haggling for an inanimate object is one thing, but for a woman's time and the privilege of her company? Classless and ignorant. It's boorish, Neanderthal behaviour and the idiots who do it should be ashamed of themselves. Problem is, as I believe Naomi stated, they simply don't care. If they see a problem with their behaviour it makes no difference to them. The only advice I can offer the ladies is that if they fail to see how worthy you are and "bargain" for you, realize how unimportant, trivial and worthless they are. They don't value you the way you should be valued so you shouldn't feel upset in the slightest showing them the door. These are the kind of guys who steal from Salvation Army Santas and kick puppies. Of the women I have had the privilege of meeting and talking to from this community, they have been warm, intelligent, articulate and even passionate. They deserve respect and dignity and to be appreciated for the treasures they are. Anyone unable or too dumb to understand that isn't worth a second thought.

Uneducated? Give me a break. I've got two undergrad degrees already, I'm almost finished a third, and I'll be headed to graduate school in a year. Have you ever considered that we CHOSE this profession, from a myriad of other professions as the best choice for us? As for the thread, negotiating the rate not only makes you look like a cheap asshole, but it tells me that you have zero respect for me. If you can't afford my rates, you've got two options: see another provider with lower rates, or save up until you've got enough to see me. End of story.

Seriously? LOL, Common now... now you're trying to make people mad? Very 'adult' of you. I hate when people tell me to get an education (especailly since I already have one.)... not that this was directed at me. It's just funny how some people get off on assumptions.. Anyways... This whole thread, while a good idea, has really been over done. Good gents won't bother trying this, the guys who will aren't going to stop because of some random thread on Cerb. Either change your advertising or ignore them... because you can't really just write a thread and make all the shitty clients go away.

Me just don't understand:-?...would any hobbiests out there be willing to negogiate their salary with their boss for a reduced income. And don't the hobbiests who do that to the ladies (I hope few and far between) realize how demeaning, disrespectful and insulting it is. And as much as the ladies provide a illusion of a date, and do so very well, they have bills to pay, mortgages, car payments, rent, food etc...how would any guys like it if at the end of the month they couldn't pay some/all of their bills If you can't afford to see a lady, don't book an appointment with her...at least she can get an appointment with a hobbiest who will treat her like the lady she is...with respect. RG Additional Comments: Employee: Excuse me sir, may I talk to you? Boss: Sure, come on in. What can I do for you? Employee: Well sir, as you know, I have been an employee of this prestigious firm for over ten years. Boss: Yes. Employee: I won't beat around the bush. Sir, I would like a raise. I currently have four companies after me and so I decided to talk to you first. Boss: A raise? I would love to give you a raise, but this is just not the right time. Employee: I understand your position, and I know that the current economic down turn has had a negative impact on sales, but you must also take into consideration my hard work, pro- activeness and loyalty to this company for over a decade. Boss: Taking into account these factors, and considering I don't want to start a brain drain, I'm willing to offer you a ten percent raise and an extra five days of vacation time. How does that sound? Employee: Great! It's a deal! Thank you, sir! Boss: Before you go, just out of curiosity, what companies were after you? Employee: Oh, the Electric Company, Gas Company, Water Company and the Mortgage Company! LOL

This is always something that comes up, no matter how long you have, or have not been into this hobby. I think I can speak for many ladies when I say that discussions through PM, phone, or email are always good and can build the chemistry, as well as help communicate all the do's and don'ts of the date. I have no problem with the abbreviations. I think they are a clear way to clear up what is on the menu. HOWEVER, I do find that some questions can be conveyed in a rude way. Ex. "Hey babe, just wondering if I can drop a load on your face and tits" This is NOT acceptable. Not only will you likely not get what you are looking for, you'll probably get a rep for being a jerk with the beautiful ladies on this board. Honesty is the best policy. If you ask for what you're looking for, you're more likely to get it. Personally, I strive to be the Ultimate Fantasy for every client I see, and so I make an effort to ask before hand, "what are some of the things you enjoy?", or "is there anything special I can do to make our time together unforgettable?". Get to know the lady before you see each other. It is sure to make your time together exactly what you are looking for.;)

Agree. However, I admit that I am a bit biased. Having worked as an executive assistant and transcriber most of my adult working life, bad spelling is one my pet peeves. I hate to sound judgmental, but I believe its says something about a person's character when they don't take that extra care to review the spelling or grammar in their ad. If a person is disabled so to speak in this area, perhaps have another person look it over for them. When I do office work, I would never dream of submitting a report that was fraught with typos. I'd get fired! I suppose most would-be clients don't care, but I have had some tell me they chose my ad because it was the only one on CL that morning they saw, that "didn't" have typos. I think now days with a lot of younger people or people who's first language is not English, we are seeing more and more bad spelling and grammar. It's truly unfortunate, but reality. My nieces for example, use short forms when texting and in chat, and their regular writing is horrible. They don't seem to care - just shrug it off as "oh well". I see far too many people rely on spell check when words can be taken out of context or have variations in spelling (e.g. there, they're and their).