SC industry

[sonoma 431]

How do you think the SC business is doing these days?

 

I'm a day time guy, The club I frequent is pretty quiet, I doubt it will ever be as it use to be...

 

I guess the only good thing about it, Is in between dances, if you're a regular you have plenty of time to get to know the girls on a personal level, it can sometime be quite funny watching them work after they shared personal things about them:)

 

How's your favorite club doing? Quiet? Busy?

[r__d 12698]

How do you think the SC business is doing these days?

 

I'm a day time guy, The club I frequent is pretty quiet, I doubt it will ever be as it use to be...

 

I guess the only good thing about it, Is in between dances, if you're a regular you have plenty of time to get to know the girls on a personal level, it can sometime be quite funny watching them work after they shared personal things about them:)

 

How's your favorite club doing? Quiet? Busy?

 

While this may sound a bit equivocal, my own view would be that it can be difficult to generalize. There is probably some truth to the view that things are not as busy as they were in the 2000-2005 period but of course it depends on the particular venue.

 

Like sonoma, I'm more of a daytime attendee and have only rarely ventured out in the evening or late night in recent years, so it may be difficult for me to make a meaningful comparison of relative levels of daytime activity between what I'm used to recently and the way things were prior to, say, 2005 or so. Conversely, I'm not sure if things are more subdued at night now than in the 1997-2005 time frame, when I was more of a night owl.

 

Having said that, I do find Barb's to be somewhat less busy on Wed. - Fri. afternoons than it was around 2005-2010 - I often found it difficult to find a good seat on afternoons in those years, especially if arriving before 1:30 or so, but in the last few years I've rarely been denied a good choice of seats. Saturday afternoons seem to have been fairly consistent through the last several years.

 

Find it a lot more difficult to discern any trend at the 'Mate - perhaps I'm not there enough to really get a sense of the place - but it seems to be quite varied in terms of the level of activity. I've seen it close to moribund on a Fri. afternoon and surprisingly busy (for the 'Mate) on a recent Mon. afternoon.

[Beldivok 224]

With the shift in client's desires, the industry slides toward sexual services, instead of interpersonal connection. I find all clubs attendance have reduced.

 

Am I wrong to say I think the closure of the Silver Dollar accelerated this?

[Dunstan Ramsay 1882]

I'm not sure how the closing of the Silver Dollar accelerated the downfall of the strip club industry in Ottawa?

 

The biggest problems to the local industry are the clubs themselves. I could write a list as long as my arm of everything the clubs are doing wrong.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if all the clubs in Ottawa shut their doors for good. From my experience, the industry in other cities is much better.

[sonoma 431]

I have to agree with all answers especially when Beldivok writes the industry is sliding towards sexual services, instead of interpersonal connection.

 

I personally think this is what's killing the industry, it's amazing the things i was told were either ask for by SC patrons or things that some of the girls offer..

[Beldivok 224]

I'm not sure how the closing of the Silver Dollar accelerated the downfall of the strip club industry in Ottawa?

 

The biggest problems to the local industry are the clubs themselves. I could write a list as long as my arm of everything the clubs are doing wrong.

 

I can't really give solid quantitative data to support my opinion about the SD... I feel they brought in some other customers that did not want to go downtown they would migrate a little to another rural club, or downtown as the evening proceeded. My opinion from one years observation of course... Just an hypothesis...

[sonoma 431]

I really miss the days you were going to a SC to look at beautifull women and spend time with then in the CR instead of being offered all kind of services and be pressure if you're not interested

[r__d 12698]

I really miss the days you were going to a SC to look at beautifull women and spend time with then in the CR instead of being offered all kind of services and be pressure if you're not interested

 

On this point, I'm not sure what your regular daytime club is, but my view would be that the type of atmosphere and vibe you refer to is probably most in evidence at Barb's. At least in my (limited) experience there seems to be much less of the "pressure" to which you refer at Barb's, but, to be fair, I typically look for an ATF there, so I'm not as aware of the general trends of dancer behaviour as I might be.

 

At the 'Mate (the only other club I regularly attend, and not very regularly at that) I've found that whatever is "being offered" at least a few of the dancers provide the sort of experience you appear to seek even if, overall, the general vibe at the 'Mate is closer to the kind of thing you find less agreeable.

[Guest *****en***e]

I attend at three clubs: Pigale, Barefax and Barbarellas. During the past year I've witnessed a severe reduction of clientele in all three bars. It's hard to pinpoint a specific reason for this. I would say that in general the SC industry has simply failed to renew itself, to create new interest in attending their establishments. No need to elaborate in this blog, it is obvious nothing has changed for years now and people are just tired of the formula.:?:

[LittleDirtyBirdy 410]

I feel like as much as SCs are super fun for an evening out, there hasn't been a lot of changes since their establishment. Like every other adult service has had to grow and change with clients needs growing and changing but SCs (or at least the ones I have been to) have had minimal changes over the years.

 

People always want more and new and better. There needs to be changes.

[sonoma 431]

I have to disagree with the last 2 post, and this is why respectfull post like this one are fun but the way I experience it, the SC industry has change alot in the last 10 years...

 

Anyone who frequented SC 10 years ago will tell you that what is now being offered by numeros girls in clubs these days was not or rarely offered back in 2006... this must have a domino effect on the business of the ladies fron this site

[daredevil8888 407]

I have only been going to SC for the last 16 years, and agree the clubs could do a bit more. As for services, I haven't seen much of a change in what is offered. I have been offered the full range. I do miss the 10 table dance that used to be more or less a standard at most clubs.

 

I would really like to run a club but I am not sure if what I like will appeal to everyone. Last year I spent a few late nights at the fax and mate. Both clubs were quite busy after 10 pm. The fax was mostly full of people about half my age. Funny the dancers say they like guy$ my age better.

 

Enjoy while it lasts

[Talia Ciarra 3360]

The clubs are less busy these days but there's still money in the business and you can still have fun!

[tim1 286]

I was thinking that one of the reasons why it is quiet in the strip clubs is because the economy is not great. Everything has gone up in price over the years and people's salaries have not kept pace. Its just a theory but perhaps the strip clubs expensive $7+ beers, $20 dances, $6 cover charges are influencing people to not go there. On top of that the strip clubs could provide better service and facilities. For example when i went to the nuden earlier this year, it was so dark, it was hard to see. The champagne rooms had lousy couches with no backing so you were practically lying down in there. Plus there was no privacy in the champagne rooms, it was basically 1 big room. Maybe the strip clubs should do a little more to warrant their high prices.

[thepartypigeon 1096]

I know they'll never come back, but ten dollar dances would get a lot more guys into clubs and staying longer and buying more from the bar and would keep a lot of dancers busier than they are now. In Montreal I go to Cleopatra which I think is the only place in the city with ten dollar dances and it's a great time and the girls are mostly very busy. I'm someone who if he likes a girl gets a lot of dances from her so $100 is a lot easer than $200 and she's still making good money at $100 for a little over half-an-hour.

[Phaedrus 209521]

$10 dances might not be a bad idea at all. I almost never go to clubs since I discovered the delights of MAs and SPs, but when I do go I have a budget. I'll spend pretty much the same whether it's $10 or $20 a song, and if that takes longer then I'm likely to spend a bit more on drinks, which is good for the club.

 

The other thing is... they *really* need to crack down on the dancers who screw you over on the number of songs. I hate that, and unfortunately it seems that it happens more often than not.

[Ice4fun 78396]

I have been hitting strip clubs throughout Canada for over 30 years... I guess i predate in many clubs the introduction of the champagne room and certainly contact dances. Years ago when I traveled for work it would be a regular part of every trip to either hit the club early in the night before going out or hit it late at night (lol always the most dangerous) and the clubs were normally very busy but let's face it there was no webcams or Internet porn and the escort business was quite different... now there is all kinds of competition for the interest of us friendly perverts and frankly with the introduction of contact dances it can be very expensive to spend the night at a club...it certainly is not hard to blow through $500 so for me I have concluded that I can have way more fun spending that same money by booking an appointment with a Lyla lady.

 

There will always be a reasonable business for SCs but th world is different now.

[nth_dimension 460]

10$ is the way to go. I've been visiting the clubs off and on for a long time now and there has absolutely been a big drop in business.

 

If dances were 10$, the club would benefit from more customers, and indeed, the girls would benefit too. How often have you wanted to try a girl out in the CR but were saving your cash for a favorite? If the price was just a little less then I think customers would spread it around, and girls would have to hustle less for that one guy who makes their shift.

 

The losers in this would be the few top girls at the top clubs who are churning through 20$ dances all shift long as it is.

 

I think everyone else would benefit.

[slacker 1290]

And yet the one club that allowed contact in Vancouver, Number 5 Orange, charges $50 a song and is still going. I remember blowing a huge pile of cash on one girl out there four or five years ago because she reminded me of a young Teri Hatcher.

[Guest pagypie]

i can write an essay on this but the ownership-dancer dynamic is out of date and out of touch.

 

dancers are expected to work as contractors; pay ownership for time at the club and solicit customers.

 

with attendance decreasing this method is ridiculous. it's devolved into cultivating a list of regulars if you can or offering extras beyond your comfort zone. you still pay to be there and may not even see any customers. meanwhile the ownership still charges for drinks and mandates stage dances etc. some clubs protect house rules, others don't.

 

anyways i think its a shitty way to treat dancers and they should be earning a wage to be there. and when it comes to prices, dances, in a perfect world i see that as being set by each dancer to be whatever she wants with whoever she wants.

[r__d 12698]

And yet the one club that allowed contact in Vancouver, Number 5 Orange, charges $50 a song and is still going. I remember blowing a huge pile of cash on one girl out there four or five years ago because she reminded me of a young Teri Hatcher.

 

It looks like an interesting and fun club but $50 per song.....yowza!

 

To revive one of the themes in the 'Barb's' thread from a while ago, this perhaps should make us just a little bit thankful for what we have here in the nation's capital, at Barb's and elsewhere.

[Talia Ciarra 3360]

When they banned smoking in the clubs that really affected business for a year or two afterward also.

[tim1 286]

It looks like an interesting and fun club but $50 per song.....yowza!

 

To revive one of the themes in the 'Barb's' thread from a while ago, this perhaps should make us just a little bit thankful for what we have here in the nation's capital, at Barb's and elsewhere.

 

wow, $50 per dance is a bit much. I know I would not do it. Probably a good thing they don't charge that much in Ottawa otherwise the clubs and the dancers would go bankrupt.

[Dave in Phoenix 753]

And yet the one club that allowed contact in Vancouver, Number 5 Orange, charges $50 a song and is still going. I remember blowing a huge pile of cash on one girl out there four or five years ago because she reminded me of a young Teri Hatcher.

 

Memory lane - I was there in 1999 and the Marble Arch. If I recall correctly (maybe not) the way they got around the no contact rule in the B.C. ABC requirements was the door going upstairs was technically a hotel so you were doing legal outcall going to "your" room. But my memory is faded.

 

Some of the dancers were actually entertaining. Usually I have no interest in gwacking at dancers but only interested in contact laps. However, this is from my 1999 report from Number 5:

 

The choreography, athletic ability and "show" of the dancers was actually very good. One cute gal was in a Captains outfit doing a Love Boat routine. Another was very athletic doing naked hand walking across the stage and really using good muscle control sliding her nude body on the pole and doing a head stand etc. These were really good dancers dong more than just teasing and thrusting their ����� lips at men from the stage.

 

Number 5 and Marble Arch also had roaming massage gals one of which actually gave great neck and shoulder massages I noted.

 

Ever since then I avoided Vancouver since very restrictive at strip clubs, and the MP and SP scene very expensive. For escorts fell in love with Victoria (when all the incalls were in Saanich before the sheriff moved them to downtown Victoria.

 

But for strip clubs and what I enjoy the most - nude reverse MP - nothing could beat then the Niagara Falls and Mississauga strip clubs (thanks Ms Hazel 90 yr old ex-mayor) and the MPs in Sauga which is still my favorite adult activity in Canada.

 

As everyone has indicated, however, things have changed. The clubs use to be full contact but no penetration which following the old Supreme Court ruling from a Montreal case ruling strip clubs not brothels as long as no penetration.

 

But now it's more about more extra's pressure often from dancers, although I still enjoy just contact laps at many of the Sauga clubs. Niagara Falls still has the great Sundowner, but my favorite club now closed except on weekends and business has been steadily declining over the last 10 years for the reasons others have noted.

[tim1 286]

I know they'll never come back, but ten dollar dances would get a lot more guys into clubs and staying longer and buying more from the bar and would keep a lot of dancers busier than they are now. In Montreal I go to Cleopatra which I think is the only place in the city with ten dollar dances and it's a great time and the girls are mostly very busy. I'm someone who if he likes a girl gets a lot of dances from her so $100 is a lot easer than $200 and she's still making good money at $100 for a little over half-an-hour.

 

i think there are still $10 dances in the Montreal area. Laval has a few clubs and they were $10 a dance (last year). I am not sure about other clubs on the island.