Jasmine Rain 23126 Report post Posted April 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said: Very valid, and for myself I always have a stash of bitcoins. However, wondering how I claim that on my taxes as expenses leaves me puzzled. Believe it, I pay taxes as Sophia. So with out having advertising as proper expense sheet, I will be missing one of the biggest aspects of my business! This IS my career. I honestly feel we will evolve! And thats a good thing! Rough times ahead...probably. And if its bitcoin all the way, well I will see what CRA has to say about it lol. LL has a section that shows a record of your purchases and in Euro. It can be used as a receipt. Regardless of whether you paid by bitcoin. Under the ”gift card” section as if you are going to buy more. At the bottom. Click the order. You will have to screen cap it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jessica Rain said: LL has a section that shows a record of your purchases and in Euro. It can be used as a receipt. Regardless of whether you paid by bitcoin. Under the ”gift card” section as if you are going to buy more. At the bottom. Click the order. You will have to screen cap it. True...my accountant wont like me haha. But yes never thought of that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasmine Rain 23126 Report post Posted April 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said: True...my accountant wont like me haha. But yes never thought of that way. Mine can get pissy all she wants. A receipt is a receipt and I'm claimin’ that shit. Lol. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasmine Rain 23126 Report post Posted April 10, 2019 I wrote this on another forum LL was making a change before this girl went on a rampage. They were, from my understanding - looking at review site as well. Based on a new twitter handle I followed a couple of days before this happened. So I think the ”ownership” change was already happening. Bottom line folks, our industry is not ever going to be as simple as mainstream. As much as I don't want to get into crypto, almost every single site that we need, will take it. So maybe it is time to just hop on board. What is more important, food on your table or the convenience of a CC. As for prices, its a lot. When that is what you solely rely on. I bet women pay more on there then they do on Terb for a month. Diversity is the name of the game here. I have never and will never put all my eggs in one basket. Not for anything, personal, business etc. That is especially true for this industry. It sucks when things don't go the way we like or the way we think it should go. Yet we have seen that stirring the pot too much leaves us worse off. Bedford case, CL shut down then BP, now this. The storm will pass but how many people will learn this time. Learn how to adapt or learn how to change up your game by diversifying? Bottom line - men will always buy sex and women will always sell it. It is just a matter of how easy or hard you make that within the limits of the ever-evolving industry. I will say if the powers at LL are no longer using an EU based company for processing, then change the currency back to CDN. That is a pure cash grab if they don't. Which again, I recognize is their right and I will continue to pay so long as I want to have my ad on that platform and feel, I get an ROI. Right now a bump once a month is good for me. However, when I tour East/West, I'll use it and pay. If a $10 as is making $250 - I ain't bitching about price. Escort advertising is so cheap compared to the mainstream for real businesses. Hell, my print cost on flyers for just events at my job cost more than a year of advertising on TERB and that us just to advertise to customers I already have. Ladies have to watch, they think guys only look for sex when they want it. That is not true. They research beforehand. You don't need to have your ad up on the front page all the time, you don't need to only use LL on the day you are working. I say take this time to learn about other advertising venues or how to support those who have stay tried and true longer than CL, BP and LL combined. Which is Terb. Sorry, that turned into more than I thought. As a businesswoman, I get frustrated at how upset these women get. Only because I know if they just tweaked a couple of things in their game, they wouldn't have to worry as much as they do. I wish there was a magic handbook I could give out. I wish women would put 10% of every booking away for days like today. It would help pay that hotel when you found out after you checked in that you can’t place an ad LL. I wish ladies would use more then one site. It would make sure you had another place to advertise when now stuck in a pre-paid hotel and no LL. To be clear, I'm not mad at women. Just frustrated they have to go through this when I know a change here or there could have made this issue such a non issue for them as it is for me. I wish one person didn't decide for the rest what was good and what was not. First with Bedford and now this trans woman from Vancouver. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Jessica Rain said: I wrote this on another forum LL was making a change before this girl went on a rampage. They were, from my understanding - looking at review site as well. Based on a new twitter handle I followed a couple of days before this happened. So I think the ”ownership” change was already happening. Bottom line folks, our industry is not ever going to be as simple as mainstream. As much as I don't want to get into crypto, almost every single site that we need, will take it. So maybe it is time to just hop on board. What is more important, food on your table or the convenience of a CC. As for prices, its a lot. When that is what you solely rely on. I bet women pay more on there then they do on Terb for a month. Diversity is the name of the game here. I have never and will never put all my eggs in one basket. Not for anything, personal, business etc. That is especially true for this industry. It sucks when things don't go the way we like or the way we think it should go. Yet we have seen that stirring the pot too much leaves us worse off. Bedford case, CL shut down then BP, now this. The storm will pass but how many people will learn this time. Learn how to adapt or learn how to change up your game by diversifying? Bottom line - men will always buy sex and women will always sell it. It is just a matter of how easy or hard you make that within the limits of the ever-evolving industry. I will say if the powers at LL are no longer using an EU based company for processing, then change the currency back to CDN. That is a pure cash grab if they don't. Which again, I recognize is their right and I will continue to pay so long as I want to have my ad on that platform and feel, I get an ROI. Right now a bump once a month is good for me. However, when I tour East/West, I'll use it and pay. If a $10 as is making $250 - I ain't bitching about price. Escort advertising is so cheap compared to the mainstream for real businesses. Hell, my print cost on flyers for just events at my job cost more than a year of advertising on TERB and that us just to advertise to customers I already have. Ladies have to watch, they think guys only look for sex when they want it. That is not true. They research beforehand. You don't need to have your ad up on the front page all the time, you don't need to only use LL on the day you are working. I say take this time to learn about other advertising venues or how to support those who have stay tried and true longer than CL, BP and LL combined. Which is Terb. Sorry, that turned into more than I thought. As a businesswoman, I get frustrated at how upset these women get. Only because I know if they just tweaked a couple of things in their game, they wouldn't have to worry as much as they do. I wish there was a magic handbook I could give out. I wish women would put 10% of every booking away for days like today. It would help pay that hotel when you found out after you checked in that you can’t place an ad LL. I wish ladies would use more then one site. It would make sure you had another place to advertise when now stuck in a pre-paid hotel and no LL. To be clear, I'm not mad at women. Just frustrated they have to go through this when I know a change here or there could have made this issue such a non issue for them as it is for me. I wish one person didn't decide for the rest what was good and what was not. First with Bedford and now this trans woman from Vancouver. I agree 1000% of what you said here! My frustration seems to be more with that many of the men who enquire are NOT doing research. Perhaps its a local thing?? When I ask, such a simple question as " where did you find my ad" and I constantly get an answer of " the internet" it makes my nerves rattled. It is very imporatnat to me ( am I alone here?) to assess where my ads are being viewed. That way I can spread my advertising budge to where its going to be productive. Its also apart of my screening. Just today I had 2 enquires for someone else..umm no I am Sophia?😮 And flip side, if ladies didnt only depend on one site all the time, 1. One site could not have 99% or the monopoly and be given the power to gouge us. And 2. When change happens ( fact of life) then ypur not scraping the bottom of the barrel. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kitten 1281 Report post Posted April 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said: Very valid, and for myself I always have a stash of bitcoins. However, wondering how I claim that on my taxes as expenses leaves me puzzled. Believe it, I pay taxes as Sophia. So with out having advertising as proper expense sheet, I will be missing one of the biggest aspects of my business! This IS my career. I honestly feel we will evolve! And thats a good thing! Rough times ahead...probably. And if its bitcoin all the way, well I will see what CRA has to say about it lol. That is an incredibly valid point as well and may i applaud ypu for doing it right and covering your ass. You should be able to exchange it to a place with record. Sadly, this may mean losing a chunk to conversion. I would definately have a good chat with your accountant! Tellin' the truth i feel had an excellent suggestion however. Getting a good tech guy/intrenet securirty officer to help set up you own page may not be a horrible plan! Even if the major cc's refuse to work with that kind of content, there are other companies who will. Payoneer may be worth looking into if its still a thing, or perhaps take a peek at what the cam sites use to payout? Why even go through a third party? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) One of the reasons people look towards bitcoin and CryptoCurrency is the lack of tracking - so for instance hiding taxable income...Illegal activities paper trail is harder to pin down. As far as the comment on can a company survive on bitcoin and pay in currency - a bit of monetary policy and exchange rates come to play. For instance Venezuela https://medium.com/@melis.io/the-first-city-in-the-world-that-is-switching-to-bitcoin-c995e32ad549 Since the Country backs currency, and currency value is determined by monetary policy and the countries economic power, all you need to really do is think about what rate you buy it at, and what rate you receive when you sell it - so in a sense your are currency trading. You can walk into some places and buy a pack of gum with CC/Bitcoin - that's a real transaction. People can pay you with bitcoins - real transaction. You just aren't tracked, nor is your bitcoin backed by the bank of Canada, nor on bars of gold, nor indexed against the performance of a country such as the US... Edited April 11, 2019 by Guest removed some terms that might need further explanation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 11, 2019 5 hours ago, fac3fun said: One of the reasons people look towards bitcoin and CryptoCurrency is the lack of tracking - so for instance hiding taxable income...Illegal activities paper trail is harder to pin down. The problem is how this currency is too often associated with the black and grey market, cyberterrorism and money laundering. Economists and serious investors are still quite divided on it's viability and relevancy, making it volatile in term of value. It was a goldmine for those who jump very early in it. I would personally be very careful about buying too much of it when many countries are debating if Bitcoins are legit or too much of a tool for illegal activities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, Greenteal said: The problem is how this currency is too often associated with the black and grey market, cyberterrorism and money laundering. Economists and serious investors are still quite divided on it's viability and relevancy, making it volatile in term of value. It was a goldmine for those who jump very early in it. I would personally be very careful about buying too much of it when many countries are debating if Bitcoins are legit or too much of a tool for illegal activities. Took the words rigjt out of mouth! Was going to write this last night..but I got bit busy. Lol. Not to also mention, it wont help in ending the stigma that surrounds our industry. SW are fighting to reconised as legitimate rights to work in our professions and for our humman rights. This I fear only will set that movement back! #sexworkiswork 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said: Took the words rigjt out of mouth! Was going to write this last night..but I got bit busy. Lol. Not to also mention, it wont help in ending the stigma that surrounds our industry. SW are fighting to reconised as legitimate rights to work in our professions and for our humman rights. This I fear only will set that movement back! #sexworkiswork On that note: I just may pull my ads regardless from Leo List. I want to boycott the bitcoin system. Only criminals use bitcoins! I dont want to feed into system that supports crime orgs to fund thier human trafficing, drugs, gangs, terrorist. I am going to research this deeper tho. And also, dont think I want to feed a site that gouged us so bad. I dont mind paying advertising of course but that was insane! Also, I dont want ONE site to gain monopoly over me ever again. If you dont see me there, find me here: Lyla Vip Favours Massage Republic Tryst link Nigth away And of course my own website ( soon will be on top of SEO for Maritimes) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said: Only criminals use bitcoins! I dont want to feed into system that supports crime orgs to fund thier himam trafficing, drugs, gangs, terrorist. I wouldn't go that far. There many legit people and businesses who use and make a living on Bitcoin. Like everything, it has it's good and bad. But as the mainstream global market never really took it seriously, it lacks the regulations and transparency one should expect from a parallel economic system. And because of it, it's became a lucrative currency for those with questionnable intentions. Eventually, global governments, banks, markets and law enforcement will have to establish if the currency should be regulated or banned completely. The status quo won't be viable forever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Greenteal said: I wouldn't go that far. There many legit people and businesses who use and make a living on Bitcoin. Like everything, it has it's good and bad. But as the mainstream global market never really took it seriously, it lacks the regulations and transparency one should expect from a parallel economic system. And because of it, it's became a lucrative currency for those with questionnable intentions. Eventually, global governments, banks, markets and law enforcement will have to establish if the currency should be regulated or banned completely. The status quo won't be viable forever. My decisions that I am weighing is not soley based on bitcoin. Although it a big part, perhaps the catalysts to be thought process. I do have a livelyhood to maintain of course. But there are plenty of succesful woman who stopped LL ages ago. And the same goes as far as my feelings on how LL gauged and took advatange of the market. Something like 1800% hike in costs with in months! Didnt even now 1800% inflation was a thing! Hahah. I will ponder and see. I have a stash of bitcoins atm. I will sit on it for while. I eant to give these other, much beyter sites my attention in the mean time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vegeta85 1675 Report post Posted April 11, 2019 I wish I had bought up some bitcoins 5 years ago when they were cheap. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 11, 2019 48 minutes ago, Greenteal said: I wouldn't go that far. There many legit people and businesses who use and make a living on Bitcoin. Like everything, it has it's good and bad. But as the mainstream global market never really took it seriously, it lacks the regulations and transparency one should expect from a parallel economic system. And because of it, it's became a lucrative currency for those with questionnable intentions. Eventually, global governments, banks, markets and law enforcement will have to establish if the currency should be regulated or banned completely. The status quo won't be viable forever. My decisions that I am weighing is not soley based on bitcoin. Although it a big part, perhaps the catalysts to be though process. I do have a livelyhood to maintain of course. But there are plenty of succesful woman who stopped LL ages ago. And the same goes as far as my feelings on how LL gauged and took advatange of the market. Something like 1800% hike in costs with in months! Didnt even now 1800% inflation was a thing! Hahah. I will ponder and see. I have a stash of bitcoins atm. I will sit on it for while. I want to give these other, much better sites my attention in the mean time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 11, 2019 Everyone who really wants to learn what is happening with Leo List monopoly really needs to read this blog. Found on Night Away ca see Escort blogs. "Title is Trusted sites by Me" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Studio 110 by Sophia said: My decisions that I am weighing is not soley based on bitcoin. Although it a big part, perhaps the catalysts to be though process. I do have a livelyhood to maintain of course. But there are plenty of succesful woman who stopped LL ages ago. And the same goes as far as my feelings on how LL gauged and took advatange of the market. Something like 1800% hike in costs with in months! Didnt even now 1800% inflation was a thing! Hahah. I will ponder and see. I have a stash of bitcoins atm. I will sit on it for while. I want to give these other, much better sites my attention in the mean time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Greenteal said: Not sure what your meme means?? Go to night away and read the blog. The math is all there to see, of you are confused over my post on inflation hikes on LL. Its a very inforamtive blog. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, Studio 110 by Sophia said: Not sure what your meme means?? Go to night away and read the blog. The math is all there to see, of you are confused over my post on inflation hikes on LL. Its a very inforamtive blog. You replied to me twice the same post. Was just making a joke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Greenteal said: You replied to me twice the same post. Was just making a joke. Ohhhj hahahah funny must have been a glitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted April 12, 2019 Here is today in NB. 10 bumps. 32 Euro! Is 54 CAD . I BUMPED AD 2 HOURS AGO. Already 27 post down. I would go threw 10 bumps in 2.5 days to remain visible Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumac 1105 Report post Posted April 12, 2019 Not a fan of LL as there seems to be a crazy number of "con" ads. I have found this site to be wonderful as the SPs provide clear professional information and there are respectful reviews. That said, Sophia's listing of others advertising sites and creating alternate communication methods is bang on. Never being primarily dependent on one advertiser is just smart business. Also lets you negotiate alternate payment methods like 'pre-paid credits", if they want your business. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 5310 Report post Posted April 12, 2019 So... considering you pay for bumps. If I owned a website where you post advertisement. Where you pay extra to remain at the top. So you pay more if there is more traffic.... And the industry is notorious for fake ads..... and I happen to be out to make the most money (which all business are) ... (and I'm not very honest).. I would flood it with fake ads... (within reason.. otherwise customers stop using it entirely) Makes it look popular (thus must be worthwhile) plus forces real advertisers to pay more to remain relevant. Not saying LL does this... but certainly would be something they have considered unless they have no strategic vision. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TorontoMelanieJolliet 4458 Report post Posted April 12, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 7:24 PM, sacha said: You missed my point. Major credit cards, have refused to profit from businesses like leoslist. I understand that I am in the minority and I offer my services of my own free will. My question is, the new owner of leoslist, is only excepting virtual currency. Can a company survive, accepting virtual imcome? But must pay employees, with real currency? Maybe that part of it is 'none yo business'. 🤭 😉 No need to worry about their employees. Just worry about ourselves. 😄 (none of this is meant disrespect, just trying make a point, for everyone, not just you hun) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TorontoMelanieJolliet 4458 Report post Posted April 12, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 1:17 AM, Studio 110 by Sophia said: Very valid, and for myself I always have a stash of bitcoins. However, wondering how I claim that on my taxes as expenses leaves me puzzled. Believe it, I pay taxes as Sophia. So with out having advertising as proper expense sheet, I will be missing one of the biggest aspects of my business! This IS my career. I honestly feel we will evolve! And thats a good thing! Rough times ahead...probably. And if its bitcoin all the way, well I will see what CRA has to say about it lol. Ok..I have to ask..why would you want C R A to know about you using bitcoin for advertising? It will just bring heat. I know that you want to be legit but we have to remember that legit-ness, being completely open and honest, at the expense of taking down another option to advertise..is kind of shellfish. Sometimes you have to recognize that honesty is not your privilege and that others need to be able to go about their business without paying for someone's else 'honesty'. I see so many confessions on these boards (admissions even to banks about their chosen profession) when ppl don't want to hear the truth. And when they do, they have to act. All in the name of protecting trafficked victims. I think sometimes you just have to find a way without exposing the whole industry, even if you want to be completely open...that's a luxury some of us don't have. (no offense, I just wanted to point this out hun. Please don't take it personal 😉🤗) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TorontoMelanieJolliet 4458 Report post Posted April 12, 2019 What I'm trying to say is..is it not enough that society doesn't like us? Some trans girl in BC takes it upon herself to push us into the shady world of crypto currency because she was being selfish, it was for her own 'justified' needs, and she thinks she is doing everybody else a favour. And by opening this can of worms, for your own 'justified' needs, you can be turning the rest of us into criminals. (maybe exaggeration, but it's not far from it) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites