RobertDion 150 Report post Posted September 3 9 minutes ago, MikeyInHalifax said: Bro... Who hurt you? haha, a story for another time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealsweetie 162 Report post Posted September 5 On 9/1/2025 at 8:53 AM, RobertDion said: Seriously? That's low. Your excuse for needing someone licence and down payment and references... is that THAT will prevent you from being murdered??? I sincerely doubt any SP would be doing this line of work if you legitimately feared being murdered that much. You're counting on the client's honesty to simply not give you a fake licence, and WE are trusting that you won't blackmail us later by simply threatening to not sell our identity/info online. 100% noted to never offer you any type of services! thanks for showing your true colours on this post babe❤️ xoxo 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealsweetie 162 Report post Posted September 5 (edited) On 9/2/2025 at 5:55 PM, RobertDion said: Again, the initial conversation he started has conveniently gone unanswered. Exactly how does it make an SP feel more safe by them having a copy of my driver's licence? Imagine I go onto a gift shop, browse around, pick out an item, go up to the cashier, I have my debit card out and she asks me for a credit check.... "a credit check? I can pay cash, I have it right here". "Nope, I need to check your credit score before we can make this transaction, you know, in case you want to rob me, I'm protected" -- I fail to see the logic in this. Again, I don't to see how collecting and keeping a hobbyist's personal info protects the SP from violence. I found drakonis17's question to be a bit ridiculous, because just like Ms Manda pointed out, no SP in their right mind would do such a thing, heck half the ads on LL state "will not provide any more photos" ... but I was just pointing out therealsweetier's hypocrisy in her response. Don't kid yourself too much their Mikey, you'll out yourself. Because let's not forget; we're the ones not allowed to ask questions, we're the ones paying the cash, we're the ones having to verify our identity, we're the ones paying deposits, we're the ones going to their locations, we're not the ones setting the prices, they are (as it should be), perhaps your've been lucky and you haven't been screwed over Mikey, wether it's a reputable agency or independant or not... but I'll call the BS when I see it, make no mistake. There's no need to score brownie points with your virtue-signalling by saying they're already at a disadvantage. Not when they keep stacking up the claims that they're wanting deposits, and IDs and references and all this under the reasons of 'personal safety' --so let's CALM down---- let's not dig ourselves into a deeper hole. Because it looks like people are taking advantage of the situation in my eyes. Think io it - To what end will this go? Why not just ask for all the money up front? If what you're saying is true, and they are at such a severe disadvantage, then why not demand MORE safety and assurance?? Ask for twice as much and for all of it to be e-transfered up front? If all SPs did this, would we not have no choice but to comply? You know, for the safety and reassurance of everyone? To make it fair? Yes? Since the economics of this and supply-and-demand seem to be irrelevant. Why not evolve all this to its next logical step? Yeah? No? so we can give a trusted person your full name in case we end up disappearing so at least justice can be served in the worst case scenario… or if you decide to stalk, threaten, harrass, we have your name to take action. this attitude, way of thinking and behaviour from you is absolutely absurd. Edited September 5 by therealsweetie 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobertDion 150 Report post Posted September 6 On 9/5/2025 at 12:23 PM, therealsweetie said: 100% noted to never offer you any type of services! thanks for showing your true colours on this post babe❤️ xoxo You already have, you're welcome for not posting a review of the experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealsweetie 162 Report post Posted September 6 (edited) 44 minutes ago, RobertDion said: You already have, you're welcome for not posting a review of the experience. This is how i know you’re lying …. I took a break from this 2023-2025, i recently just started back up last month and i have only taking reputable clients on lyla. One of which you have not been. I Haven’t even posted a leolist ad yet or used a number. Strictly only seeing clients and using Lyla PM’s. Thank god or else i would have actually believed you! Also only strictly offering tantra which has nothing but good reviews for me thankfully as well 🙂 The fact you’re trying to lie and on top insinuate you saw me and got bad services just shows how much disrespect and hate you have for sex workers. which is a huge red flag and once again a reminder to NEVER offer you services as you are showing your true colours on this thread… It’s disturbing how hateful you are towards me because i ask my clients for ID verification. A HUGE red flag and i 100% would not feel safe seeing you. Edited September 6 by therealsweetie 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobertDion 150 Report post Posted September 6 I didn't question why SPs would ask for IDs until the backlash someone else got from the thought of asking an SP for her ID. I knew that wasn't a realistic ask, but the reaction people had at the thought of it made me dig deeper, I wasn't expecting all the BS, but it's understandable for being all defensive. But once I found out WHY you collect ID s and what you do with them, regardless of whether they are a negative client or not, well, let's just say I won't be handing over my ID anymore, now that I know the truth. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealsweetie 162 Report post Posted September 6 Just now, RobertDion said: I didn't question why SPs would ask for IDs until the backlash someone else got from the thought of asking an SP for her ID. I knew that wasn't a realistic ask, but the reaction people had at the thought of it made me dig deeper, I wasn't expecting all the BS, but it's understandable for being all defensive. But once I found out WHY you collect ID s and what you do with them, regardless of whether they are a negative client or not, well, let's just say I won't be handing over my ID anymore, now that I know the truth. You just tried to lie to sabotage my reputation. This is the last comment i’m making to you since you’re clearly a dangerous person. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobertDion 150 Report post Posted September 6 11 minutes ago, therealsweetie said: This is how i know you’re lying …. I took a break from this 2023-2025, i recently just started back up last month and i have only taking reputable clients on lyla. One of which you have not been. I Haven’t even posted a leolist ad yet or used a number. Strictly only seeing clients and using Lyla PM’s. Thank god or else i would have actually believed you! Also only strictly offering tantra which has nothing but good reviews for me thankfully as well 🙂 The fact you’re trying to lie and on top insinuate you saw me and got bad services just shows how much disrespect and hate you have for sex workers. which is a huge red flag and once again a reminder to NEVER offer you services as you are showing your true colours on this thread… It’s disturbing how hateful you are towards me because i ask my clients for ID verification. A HUGE red flag and i 100% would not feel safe seeing you. Yeah it was 2022, and no need to push your luck, you've dug yourself in this hole too much, no need for more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobertDion 150 Report post Posted September 6 Just now, therealsweetie said: You just tried to lie to sabotage my reputation. This is the last comment i’m making to you since you’re clearly a dangerous person. Not at all, I was just curious of the truth behind this whole "collecting IDs" thing, and I got the answers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobertDion 150 Report post Posted September 6 (edited) Don't know what you mean by true colors I simply asked some questions. Thank you all for the DMs and the insights on here. No need to try your rage baiting, I won't post up our encounter. Edited September 6 by RobertDion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustychris69 108 Report post Posted September 6 13 minutes ago, RobertDion said: Don't know what you mean by true colors I simply asked some questions. Thank you all for the DMs and the insights on here. No need to try your rage baiting, I won't post up our encounter. If your encounter was anything but good, I wouldn’t believe it anyways. Sweetie has been someone I’ve been seeing since 2020. Never had one bad experience with her. Sweetest girl. Being angry because she needs ID verification for a booking process is a bit dramatic. Amazing girl, amazing reviews, amazing time seeing her. Point blank period. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustychris69 108 Report post Posted September 6 15 minutes ago, RobertDion said: Don't know what you mean by true colors I simply asked some questions. Thank you all for the DMs and the insights on here. No need to try your rage baiting, I won't post up our encounter. Reading this thread I think you might be off the snow ranting like this. Gotta be. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exotic Touch Danielle 31823 Report post Posted September 6 This thread needs to be thrown right in the trash where it belongs, I can't believe it's still going 🗑 The ignorance and lack of respect towards us is fckn sad But threads like these show people's true characters thank God for that 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustychris69 108 Report post Posted September 7 9 hours ago, Exotic Touch Danielle said: This thread needs to be thrown right in the trash where it belongs, I can't believe it's still going 🗑 The ignorance and lack of respect towards us is fckn sad But threads like these show people's true characters thank God for that I do agree they should just delete this entire thread 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MsManda 25874 Report post Posted Sunday at 10:33 AM 5 hours ago, crustychris69 said: I do agree they should just delete this entire thread I think it should be left, for the post history, for both sps and clients, for future reference 9 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trustingusto 6 Report post Posted Monday at 06:29 PM I understand that sex workers want to feel safe, but requiring identification or deposits isn’t standard practice in other industries involving intimate or private services, such as waxing or hairdressing. For example, when getting a manzilian, I don’t need to show my license or send a deposit. Many waxing services and hairdressing are provided by licensed estheticians or barbers operating out of their homes without a public storefront. Similarly, private psychologists working from home don’t typically require such measures. If we justify these requirements for sex work, it logically follows that they should apply to other professions where clients and service providers are alone together.Additionally, clients have reason to be cautious of SPs’ ads, as many are fake, even those with verification badges on platforms like LeoList. It’s easy to superimpose a cell phone or piece of paper with a date to deceive a manual review, undermining trust in these verification systems. LeoList, in particular, is rife with scams, making it difficult to discern legitimate providers.A potential compromise could be to forgo the deposit and instead have clients send a photo of their license with sensitive information, such as the master number and address, redacted. This allows the service provider to connect a name to a face and confirm the client’s general location without exposing personal details that could be misused, such as for opening a line of credit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exotic Touch Danielle 31823 Report post Posted Monday at 06:31 PM So DONT contact someone that requires I.d or deposit problem solved!!! It's really that simple 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trustingusto 6 Report post Posted Monday at 08:32 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, trustingusto said: I understand that sex workers want to feel safe, but requiring identification or deposits isn’t standard practice in other industries involving intimate or private services, such as waxing or hairdressing. For example, when getting a manzilian, I don’t need to show my license or send a deposit. Many waxing services and hairdressing are provided by licensed estheticians or barbers operating out of their homes without a public storefront. Similarly, private psychologists working from home don’t typically require such measures. If we justify these requirements for sex work, it logically follows that they should apply to other professions where clients and service providers are alone together.Additionally, clients have reason to be cautious of SPs’ ads, as many are fake, even those with verification badges on platforms like LeoList. It’s easy to superimpose a cell phone or piece of paper with a date to deceive a manual review, undermining trust in these verification systems. LeoList, in particular, is rife with scams, making it difficult to discern legitimate providers.A potential compromise could be to forgo the deposit and instead have clients send a photo of their license with sensitive information, such as the master number and address, redacted. This allows the service provider to connect a name to a face and confirm the client’s general location without exposing personal details that could be misused, such as for opening a line of credit. That said, some professionals, including estheticians, salons, and even photographers like myself who have shot weddings and events, do require deposits. If a client prefers not to provide a deposit, they can choose an SP who doesn’t require one rather than dictating how an SP should run their business. RMTs (registered massage therapists), who are licensed professionals that give full-body massages, non-sexual of course but still quite intimate, and they generally don’t ask for ID or deposits despite working in private settings. However, some of them do ask for deposits when booking. This incentivizes the client to actually show up, and the RMT isn't totally without money that could have been earned if they had booked someone else. It really comes down to how one decides to run their business, there is no right and wrong here, it's a matter of choice. Also, while these services may not be as intimate as what some SPs provide, they involve similar levels of personal interaction and trust. I can understand and appreciate that sex work is stigmatized and some clients may think they can treat SPs with less respect than others. My advice is to go with your gut on this one, if the prospective client gives you a bad first impression then just don't see him. Also, my suggestion about a redacted ID isn’t about taking sides but offering a balanced solution for both SPs and clients to meet halfway. Edited Monday at 08:45 PM by trustingusto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustychris69 108 Report post Posted Tuesday at 07:58 AM (edited) 11 hours ago, trustingusto said: That said, some professionals, including estheticians, salons, and even photographers like myself who have shot weddings and events, do require deposits. If a client prefers not to provide a deposit, they can choose an SP who doesn’t require one rather than dictating how an SP should run their business. RMTs (registered massage therapists), who are licensed professionals that give full-body massages, non-sexual of course but still quite intimate, and they generally don’t ask for ID or deposits despite working in private settings. However, some of them do ask for deposits when booking. This incentivizes the client to actually show up, and the RMT isn't totally without money that could have been earned if they had booked someone else. It really comes down to how one decides to run their business, there is no right and wrong here, it's a matter of choice. Also, while these services may not be as intimate as what some SPs provide, they involve similar levels of personal interaction and trust. I can understand and appreciate that sex work is stigmatized and some clients may think they can treat SPs with less respect than others. My advice is to go with your gut on this one, if the prospective client gives you a bad first impression then just don't see him. Also, my suggestion about a redacted ID isn’t about taking sides but offering a balanced solution for both SPs and clients to meet halfway. That’s all non comparable to someone offering services at their most vulnerable state (naked) especially ladies inviting strangers into their personal space. It’s understandably very dangerous and valid as to why SP’s would ask for ID (which I never have a problem providing) And just to add, everything you’ve named off has booking processes, to go to get a wax you need to give your name and history many personal health questions on those sheets. They may not be asking for ID, but they still want to know exactly who their client is. The only way for SP’s to do so in this industry unfortunately over text would be to ID someone to make sure they are giving valid info. Edited Tuesday at 07:59 AM by crustychris69 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pamela Luscious 281 Report post Posted Wednesday at 03:23 AM Get a tattoo? You need ID, deposit, and health screening for Hep B, HIV, etc. Get clinical esthetics like microneedling or microblading? Same thing. ID, deposit, and health screening. See a sex worker? Obviously we require the same. Stop comparing our job to hairdressing, waxing, massages, or building a patio. Sex requires being over 21, being healthy, and yes, a deposit. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamSandler 304 Report post Posted Wednesday at 03:25 AM 1 minute ago, Pamela Luscious said: Get a tattoo? You need ID, deposit, and health screening for Hep B, HIV, etc. Get clinical esthetics like microneedling or microblading? Same thing. ID, deposit, and health screening. See a sex worker? Obviously we require the same. Stop comparing our job to hairdressing, waxing, massages, or building a patio. Sex requires being over 21, being healthy, and yes, a deposit. Not arguing but genuinely wondering what tattoo shop does health screening? Everywhere I've gone just makes sure everything is sterile and only use brand new unopened needles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pamela Luscious 281 Report post Posted Wednesday at 03:40 AM 13 minutes ago, AdamSandler said: Not arguing but genuinely wondering what tattoo shop does health screening? Everywhere I've gone just makes sure everything is sterile and only use brand new unopened needles. All tattoo shops I've been to requires you to fill a health sheet. Looks like we're not screening tattoo shops either before going. Smh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamSandler 304 Report post Posted Wednesday at 03:44 AM 1 minute ago, Pamela Luscious said: All tattoo shops I've been to requires you to fill a health sheet. Looks like we're not screening tattoo shops either before going. Smh Maybe different regulations for different provinces. I absolutely look into the shop before going and never went to any sketchy shops. If they don't open a new fresh needle in front of me I'm not getting anything done. It's been a while though so maybe they do health screenings now in NS but they certainly didn't years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harboursmoke 3107 Report post Posted Wednesday at 10:27 AM 6 hours ago, Pamela Luscious said: All tattoo shops I've been to requires you to fill a health sheet. Looks like we're not screening tattoo shops either before going. Smh I'm full of tattoos and piercings and I've never had to do a health screening, like the one listed above. But I could see the reasoning behind it. As for IDs, if you don't want to play by the SPs booking requirements then move on to the next SP. The free market is an amazing thing, go enjoy it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyK 217 Report post Posted Thursday at 02:11 AM Sorry to say, anybody who share their vital IDs like DL or Passport are absolute nuts. Be it a client or a provider. Who would risk their identity and sensitive information for the sake of this hobby? It's okay to send a deposit but DL? Cmon! NB: There might be CEOs who give away IDs to providers here. As we have witnessed recently (on concerts), CEOs are not as smart as we think anyway right? 😀 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites