Is this a real job?

[PistolPete 61421]

Thought I would say something about this thread,

Is it a real job?-

 

Hell yes, dam straight...

 

if a lady is able to give her mind,body and soul to strange men, and make us gents feel amazing as a service, then it is the most difficult job on the planet.

 

What other job would you open up your office to complete strangers and put on a happy face, provide services,put up with daily bullshit from tire kickers(lets call them sales individuals) pay taxes within the year and try to cope with daily issues and then give that stranger a hug and kiss good bye or hello?

 

Yes it is a job, and I thank those women that have allowed myself into their homes/rooms and gave me their service and they always did it with a smiling face, I don't get that personal affect from my other business associates I deal with daily.

 

I often found the toughest part for myself, is that awkward moment after an hour and two hours saying good-bye at the door after you have shared the most important thing to a woman and man (or MFF FMM you get the hint), intimacy...pure intimacy.

 

I always have had the highest regard for a SP/MA over my time, and as far as I'm concerned I rather talk to them then a financial expert,lawyer,politician as the provider always makes a lot more sense and see's things a relative more simple manner.

 

You really have to know what you are doing as a provider, it is not something that is handed to you, because you think you know how to satisfy your clients, it is about budgeting,it is about ensuring quality or quantity, it is ensuring that your personal discretion is never jeopardized, it is about having that me time as well.

 

Yes it is a job, and must be a job that in some cities there is many are looking to get into it, as you see daily here on this site, more join here and on other sites for advertising we see more and new providers start up.

 

I thoroughly enjoy my business transactions with a provider, so thank-you ladies.

 

 

Oh by the way Cristy, tell those private callers/lurkers (stated get a real job) F-off to start, then ask them what are they doing for a real job?

[justmoved 100]

Did you ever consider to block their calls?

[slickvic 131]

I agree, seems a bit over the top to me.

 

Peace

MG

 

 

I would like to agree and recommend a second chance for Shayla

[MisterMike 1873]

From time to time I get a call from a "private caller" telling me to go get a "real" job. Do you consider this to be a "real" job?

 

This has been a very interesting thread.

 

I would say this goes way beyond the normal conception of a "real job" particularly for someone who is an independent. I would say "entrepreneur" is a far more accurate description. You are in essence a professional sole practitioner offering a service like a lawyer or accountant; a business person doing what you enjoy for as long as you wish to engage in it.

 

Since it is a highly interpersonal business you must accept the fact that you will encounter this kind of individual; simply hang up and forget it. It goes with the territory!

 

You are all fortunate in that you live in an enlightened country where paid companions and escorts are legal enterprises. It is not so here in the US and,unfortunately, this is not likely to change in the foreseeable future.

 

It takes a very special person with the right attitude and physical attributes to be successful in this profession. For whatever reason you ladies (and guys too) have chosen to share your intimate being to make others happy while staying safe, avoiding disease and maintaining your sanity; that alone is worthy of respect, at least from me.

 

Shyla is no longer welcome on this site, i find her comments rude and ignorant... Makes me sad that someone working in this profession looks down on it in such a negative way...... She stupidly lost cerb as a valuable resource and that is going to hit her where it counts!

 

In order to be respected you must be respectful of others and also of yourself. IMHO Shayla crossed the line and must face the consequences of being banished from the CERB community. However I would also state that perhaps this not be a permanent expulsion as hopefully this will be a learning experience for her. I believe that everyone deserves a second chance but not necessarily a third.

[Carrie Moon 68826]

For those who think she should be given a 2nd chance... think about your job. You go into work.. and one person who works there talks about how little he/she thinks of the job you both do.. whether it be gov't or working at McDonalds..

Heck I know people who work at Tim Hortons, McDonalds etc who take great pride in their work.. for very measly pay. That's tough to do in my opinion!

Certainly there are many grumblers as well.. which one do you want to work with side by side?

 

I can say.. hey. I only got into the gov't job/working at Tim's temporarily..

' I never expected to make it a career'. and that's all fine.. but I wouldn't walk into the place I work at present and say.. I'm not here to impress anyone or garner any respect from my fellow grunts (couldn't think of a good equivalent to h----ker). I'd be fired on the spot I'm pretty sure.. if it was within earshot of my manager.

 

I personally wasn't offended.. why? because I don't care if someone else that I don't know respects/values what I do (or in this case what she does). Happiness garnered through others opinion of me is useless. If I respect/value myself.. I'm always happy.

[CristyCurves 169032]

For those who think she should be given a 2nd chance...

 

Happiness garnered through others opinion of me is useless. If I respect/value myself.. I'm always happy.

 

Well I still think she should be given a second chance, perhaps she opened her mouth before her brain started thinking, I know I have on more than one occasion and her attitude may be the product of being around idiots like the one that called me, or people which are many, who have a great distain for this industry. For whatever reason with the exception of murderers, child molesters, rapists, I think we all should be given a second chance.

As to others opinions, they will never change how I feel about or respect myself but a kind word will always make me feel happier and a mean word or statement will make me feel bad, more so for the person saying it, as they are the one with the problem usually. But I do get where you are coming from, understand and respect you for your opinion, thanks.

[Carrie Moon 68826]

Oh for sure Cristy.. I never said I didn't like kind words.. only that this is why her opinion of us as 'h----kers' didn't personally offend me. I don't get offended so easily.

 

BUT why give someone a 2nd chance who has obviously no interest in the board to begin with? I doubt she cares as much as others on here.. why do they care? Because they value the board. Makes no sense to me to worry about asking someone back who didn't want to be here in the first place.

 

Your case was very different. You wanted to be here.

[kechara 2526]

I was reading the messages from Shayla as they were going up. First one wasn't bad, however the next 3 were. I remember thinking O god on the second one.

 

If Shayla had realized she was offending others on the board with the term she was using and apologized after the second... maybe even the 3rd time, I could see giving her the second chance. However I never saw anything that was apologetic, it was more a what's you gonna do attitude.

 

 

I thought about it since someone suggested giving her a second chance. Since she never seemed to think there was anything wrong with what she was saying, and she really did offend some of the members here. I don't think a second chance should even be considered in this case. The mod definitely did the right thing since all of the ladies need to be able to feel comfortable and accepted here.

[Phaedrus 209521]

From time to time I get a call from a "private caller" telling me to go get a "real" job. Do you consider this to be a "real" job?

 

I must admit, my initial reaction to this was: "Private caller"? Why on earth are you answering in the first place? AFAIK many ladies simply don't pick up if the number is blocked, and I'm sure this kind of crap is part of the reason for that.

 

On the "real job" thing... Of course it's a real job! I know everyone else has already said this, but still, I'll say it again. I think a lot of this comes from people who are, quite simply, jealous. They're stuck in their own tedious 9-5 drudgery, trapped there by the need to pay the bills and their own inability to move onwards and upwards (or just.... out). Sure, they could set up their own business from scratch (as SPs do), but for whatever reason they don't, and I think they envy the freedom of those who have made that leap into the unknown and found that it worked for them.

 

And on the Shayla thing... I have to say, I was quite amused by that. I've never seen anyone commit career suicide in quite such spectacular fashion. As to whether she ever comes back or not... really, who cares?

[Guest Ou**or**n]

Whole question reminds of that great George Thorogood song...

 

Get a haircut and get a real job,

clean your act up and don't be a slob

Get it together like your big brother bob,

why don't you get a haircut and get a real job

 

.....

 

I hit the big time with my rock 'n' roll band,

the future's brighter now than I'd ever planned

I'm ten times richer than my big brother bob,

and he, he's got a haircut he's got a real job

 

--starts playing air guitar--

[Sweet Emily J 172062]

I have no objection to "Shayla" being banned, but I also wouldn't object to her having a second chance... I really don't care either way. I do think that she was disrespectful, and I really like some of the responses from many of the ladies. She just seems pretty clueless to me, and probably won't succeed at this profession anyways, even if she wanted to.

 

To me, I found the ideas she holds, and the tone of her posts a lot more disrespectful than the actual language. I understand the historical stigma behind the "H" word and "W" word, and I also understand that words can be very powerful. But to get upset about being called that is only letting the people who use them win. It gives them something to use against us. I feel that we should not get upset over these words, and rather reclaim them for ourselves, just like the way the gay community reclaimed the word "queer". That used to be a very derogatory term, and now it is a commonly used word, even used to celebrate themselves. I think we should do the same.

 

It's a lot easier for people to knock us down if we take ourselves too seriously. And if we don't let these kind of things get to us, they have no ammo left.

 

Just my thoughts...

 

Oh, and yes, this is definitely a real job. Is shouldn't even be a question. And yes, the best job, ever! :)

[Andee 220524]

I must admit, my initial reaction to this was: "Private caller"? Why on earth are you answering in the first place? AFAIK many ladies simply don't pick up if the number is blocked, and I'm sure this kind of crap is part of the reason for that.

 

And on the Shayla thing... I have to say, I was quite amused by that. I've never seen anyone commit career suicide in quite such spectacular fashion. As to whether she ever comes back or not... really, who cares?

 

I occasionally will answer a private caller and explain to them that if they want information or to book an appointment they must call back from an unblocked number. Some do, but most of course do not.

 

As for Shayla, she shouldn't be that affected by not being here because after all, it's not a real job...according to her.

[CristyCurves 169032]

I must admit, my initial reaction to this was: "Private caller"? Why on earth are you answering in the first place? AFAIK many ladies simply don't pick up if the number is blocked, and I'm sure this kind of crap is part of the reason for that.

 

To answer your question, I didn't answer this call, it was left in a voice message. But I have to say a few of my clientsinsist on calling from the hotel phone, which is their choice and alot of the hotel phones now come up as blocked or unknown, even though I've explained this time and time again to a few, they still feel better using that phone instead of their cell and alot of times won't leave a voice message, so if I don't answer I'll lose that business.

 

 

As to my response to Shayla's comments, well I'm a very kind hearted person, ( and that is not intimating that others here are not) her comments were hurtful, as I said and, yes, very disrespectful, but I still feel sorry for her and as I said before, feel most of us deserve a second chance. So many people can be crass, rude, disrespectful, misspeak, it is usually these people that need the most understanding and sympathy, jmo.But in the end it was mod's decision as to wether she should stay or leave, she is gone, so that is that.

[newboy 4919]

Well at least three people have met Shayla and enjoyed her company...

 

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=99309

[roamingguy 300291]

I understand completely why Shayla was suspended, she showed no respect for this board, it's values, nor for this lifestyle. Imagine saying she is doing this because she is too lazy to do anything else. That is not a professional escort, and I hardly think she is attracting any clients with that attitude, nor does she have anything in common with the professional companions who are on CERB.

But the members wanting to give Shayla a second chance should be applauded. They recognize that what she did was wrong, but feel that given a second chance, she might be a contributing member of this community. Those members show what is right with this community.

Should Mod and Council reconsider, I have no problem with her coming back. But I completely understand if Shayla has used up all her chances

and isn't allowed back. But for those who want to give her a second chance remember, Shayla probably doesn't even care one way or the other. You all for wanting to give her a second chance, well my hat's off to you. And I think you all reflect what is good about CERB

A rambling

RG

[JoyfulC 132299]

I was a little surprised that Shayla got banned. Her remarks seemed more self-destructive than harmful to the community. I hope she does get a second chance, because I also hope that being exposed to people who think the way most people do on CERB might be a good and very much needed influence on her. Here, she has a chance to be exposed to men who use our services and respect us, who choose to focus on the SPs that provide a quality service rather than wallow in bad reviews, who choose to talk with SPs rather than talk about them.

 

And here, she can be exposed to other SPs who have self respect, who respect the business and respect the men who use our services.

 

That's the kind of exposure Shayla really needs.

[slickvic 131]

I belong to most hobby boards across Canada and some in the US. Although every board has rules and guidelines, we are human at the end of the day. I do not condone what Shayla said but life is about learning and I think she probably has learned a tough lesson here. I would hope that warnings and forgiveness are also part of our life lessons that we pass along.

I've read her posts several times and being that they are in a form of words only and we cannot get a true sense of tone, many may conclude differently what her intent was. Having said that it was likley a 'reaction' she was seeking with her intent but we really don't know.

I would hope that Shayla could be given a second chance as I have witnessed worse dialogs on other boards with smaller punishments.

I'm sure she would be grateful as I anticipate there is not many options to advertise for Halifax and Charlottetown and being banned from CERB is likely more detrimental to her location then say if she was advertisng in Toronto or Montreal. My two cents.

[crankF 12893]

For those who think she should be given a 2nd chance... think about your job. You go into work.. and one person who works there talks about how little he/she thinks of the job you both do.. whether it be gov't or working at McDonalds..

Heck I know people who work at Tim Hortons, McDonalds etc who take great pride in their work.. for very measly pay. That's tough to do in my opinion!

Certainly there are many grumblers as well.. which one do you want to work with side by side?

 

I can say.. hey. I only got into the gov't job/working at Tim's temporarily..

' I never expected to make it a career'. and that's all fine.. but I wouldn't walk into the place I work at present and say.. I'm not here to impress anyone or garner any respect from my fellow grunts (couldn't think of a good equivalent to h----ker). I'd be fired on the spot I'm pretty sure.. if it was within earshot of my manager.

 

I personally wasn't offended.. why? because I don't care if someone else that I don't know respects/values what I do (or in this case what she does). Happiness garnered through others opinion of me is useless. If I respect/value myself.. I'm always happy.

I was just reflecting on CarreM's thoughtful post and it made me think of two of dear old Mom's favorite sayings and how they pertain to this whole thread:

 

1)"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" .

Shayla should have realized early on that peeps were agitated. If she would have backed off and taken stock, she could've made a conciliatory statement or not replied at all, but she couldn't shut up.

 

2)"The Lord( choose your own Higher Power) helps those who help themselves". People shouldn't be ashamed of their work. Anyone physicaly able, who contributes to commerce, whether on her feet at McD's or on her back(lol),is of a higher order than the bottom feeders. I myself have done things as varied as shoveling shit, and managing a new car franchise( for th at job I had to be full of shit, lol).

I'm a believer in second chances, having had some mysel,f and Shayla deserves a chance, after a good long time out to reflect on her actions.

[fortunateone 156618]

You know what Ian Fleming says:

 

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.

 

 

By the 3rd post, it seemed she was asking for at least a suspension.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

Is the "H" word actually banned here? I took a quick look at the rules and couldn't see anything specifically on point. If not, maybe it should be banned if its going to inflame passions like this.

 

Other than Shayla's use of that term, and the use of that term in reference to this board, she seems to just be expressing a point of view about whether this is a job or not. Its the minority view, and most would disagree, but wasn't that the whole point of Cristy's post to begin with? Of course its a a job, but that's my opinion.

 

And before anyone comments on this, or adds another comment to this string about Shayla's posts, they really ought to go back and read them as it seems to me that many have not. Again, try to forget the references to the H word, and I dont see how the posts are disrepectful. In fact, she makes a point of accepting other people's points of view and says that she enjoys working as an SP. And her other posts on other topics are nothing out of the ordinary.

 

The absolutely worst thing that can happen to this community is someone to get banned. It should be a last resort and only after there have been warnings and an opportunity for people to change. This is not about someone violating the soliciting rules, or spamming ... its about someone who expressed a point of view about something that people found offensive. I just find that really sad.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Is the "H" word actually banned here? I took a quick look at the rules and couldn't see anything specifically on point. If not, maybe it should be banned if its going to inflame passions like this.

 

Other than Shayla's use of that term, and the use of that term in reference to this board, she seems to just be expressing a point of view about whether this is a job or not. Its the minority view, and most would disagree, but wasn't that the whole point of Cristy's post to begin with? Of course its a a job, but that's my opinion.

 

And before anyone comments on this, or adds another comment to this string about Shayla's posts, they really ought to go back and read them as it seems to me that many have not. Again, try to forget the references to the H word, and I dont see how the posts are disrepectful. In fact, she makes a point of accepting other people's points of view and says that she enjoys working as an SP. And her other posts on other topics are nothing out of the ordinary.

 

The absolutely worst thing that can happen to this community is someone to get banned. It should be a last resort and only after there have been warnings and an opportunity for people to change. This is not about someone violating the soliciting rules, or spamming ... its about someone who expressed a point of view about something that people found offensive. I just find that really sad.

 

Sorry I have to disagree with you to a certain degree. Opinions, point of view, freedom of speech are all things we should not take for granted but this is a private board and when someone goes against the rules and regulations that she intially accepted as the terms of joining this site, she violated all of them that day. Respect towards others is one of them. Being a member of this board is a privelege, not a right.

 

Does she deserve a second chance? I really couldn't care less. I've come to the conclusion that everyone has opinions and are entitled to them and there really are no right or wrong ones. This isn't how about how she is only in this for short term or what she thought of the job herself, it was how she inadvertantly and then blantantly showed disrespect towards others who are doing the same job. The terms she used such as "------" and "------ board" said it all.

 

Even if she was given a second chance, do you really think that will change how she will react towards others here? Most likely not. While it's nice for others to be the bigger person and give people a chance they may or may not deserve, she probably doesn't even care. Sad, yes but if she knew how to be a professional in her business and not being so lax about her job, she would have a made a wiser decision with what she decided to put into words that day in her posts. Life sucks but she now has deal with the cards she has been dealt with. Next....

[billybob 20128]

Next what?

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Next what?

 

"Next" as in this is becoming rather mundane.lol.

[aubreyxxx 20240]

Nikki - I continue to love the replies you make to this thread, as well as what someone had said earlier, If she wanted the freedom to make those comments, she has to deal with the consequences that comes with saying them

The thing that bothered me most about her posts, was the "I dont give a shit" attitude and the lol she made at the end of most of her posts which shows a flat line of ignorance to what others opinions were on the topic .

I am totally fine with the fact that everyone has the freedom of speech and opinions, but in respect to that, if you want to say what you want and have your own opinion, dont show disrespect when someone else utilizes that same right

[Liana 689]

I agree. This is a real job. Everybody else who wants to mock or not believe that we actually work and do well at this have no right to say otherwise. Just ignore those negative comments.

We do what we do and do it well.