SP who Contact Clients On their Own

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

After reading your posts I still have to disagree. We, or at least I, pay for sex with professional escorts for their time and COMPLETE DISCRETION. When did this change? Express YABUTS here. :)

You can just as easily use pm on CERB(which I stated is acceptable in my earlier post) if you want to keep in touch with a touring ladies upcoming visit.

Was it Shakespeare who said "oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"? Making things too elaborate with separate phones, separate emails and other various protocols are just asking for something to go wrong. Why not ask the lady whose business it is to be completely discreet to practice discretion and use pm only.

Having said this, it's a free word so you can do what you like and be as careless as you want. But, if you're concerned about getting caught, I still recommend pm's on CERB as the preferred method for SP's to notify you of future visits to your city.

[Guest realnicehat]

After reading your posts I still have to disagree. We, or at least I, pay for sex with professional escorts for their time and COMPLETE DISCRETION. When did this change? Express YABUTS here. :)

You can just as easily use pm on CERB(which I stated is acceptable in my earlier post) if you want to keep in touch with a touring ladies upcoming visit.

Was it Shakespeare who said "oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"? Making things too elaborate with separate phones, separate emails and other various protocols are just asking for something to go wrong. Why not ask the lady whose business it is to be completely discreet to practice discretion and use pm only.

Having said this, it's a free word so you can do what you like and be as careless as you want. But, if you're concerned about getting caught, I still recommend pm's on CERB as the preferred method for SP's to notify you of future visits to your city.

 

Nope, it was Sir Walter Scott (Ivanhoe, Rob Roy) but these days it is more commonly attributed to Spiderman :)

 

Clearly everyone is going to have their own personal methods of contact that they feel comfortable with. If Cerb PMs make you feel the most secure then that is great but I'm not sure it should be touted as the best way not to get caught.

 

After all, what looks more incriminating in a browser history, Cerb or Gmail? Both would be suspicious but it is pretty hard to explain away something with "escort" in the title.

 

We all try to be as cautious as we can but sooner or later we slip up (I opened my laptop in a coffee shop the other day and cerb was right there on the screen).

[roamingguy 300291]

The only acceptable communication initiated by a SP is a pm on here. Maybe if a client has given you expressed permission along a specific line of communication it would be OK for them only. But what if his circumstances change and he forgot to notify you that it's no longer ok to email him next time you're in town? Oops! Now what?

 

If a client gives express permission to email him, then she should feel free to email him

If his circumstances change, how is the lady to know unless he lets her know. If he forgets to tell her, oops, it's his fault, yup his fault...not the lady's fault in the least.

If a man makes a mistake he should own up to it and correct it so it doesn't happen again, not blame ladies who email clients because they have been told it is ok to email him.

RG

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

I know what you're saying RNH but I was just trying to make a point with the SP's that unlike RG and nlwoodchuck et al, many of us who have gotten these emails(in some cases close to a year later) would suggest they use pm instead of email. I'm pretty sure in the bliss after an encounter I never told any SP it was OK to contact me via email but a year later, who remembers? For the sake of us who aren't like elephants when it comes to this, just use pm. Then we have to "actively" access the message and are properly prepared.

 

Additional Comments:

RG, I'll try to do better "owning" my mistakes and be a better man.lol

[roamingguy 300291]

After reading your posts I still have to disagree. We, or at least I, pay for sex with professional escorts for their time and COMPLETE DISCRETION. When did this change? Express YABUTS here. :)

You can just as easily use pm on CERB(which I stated is acceptable in my earlier post) if you want to keep in touch with a touring ladies upcoming visit.

Was it Shakespeare who said "oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"? Making things too elaborate with separate phones, separate emails and other various protocols are just asking for something to go wrong. Why not ask the lady whose business it is to be completely discreet to practice discretion and use pm only.

Having said this, it's a free word so you can do what you like and be as careless as you want. But, if you're concerned about getting caught, I still recommend pm's on CERB as the preferred method for SP's to notify you of future visits to your city.

 

If your preference is PM fine, but don't speak for all of us that it is the only way of communication. What is fine for you isn't necessarily fine for me, and it's kind of presumptuous of you to speak for everyone saying PM is the only method of contact

Discretion isn't just the lady's responsibility, it's everyone's. And if you don't want a lady emailing you, then don't give her permission to do so problem solved

I'm single but still use common sense protocols. Except for using the same phone for this lifestyle and as a home phone, I have two emails, and I open the emails when there is privacy. And I delete my browsing history Nothing careless. I just exercise common sense and discretion on my part too

BTW what happens if your SO found out your on CERB, how do you keep that discrete from her. And if you can keep it discrete, then not any harder to keep a separate email private too...it's not rocket science

RG

[LeeRichards 177238]

Ya know what I think ... we all have different preferences and opinions. Till the day we all die.

 

Now my opinion for the moment is.................

 

Let's all drop our pants and hang a moon to the self righteous, inglorious bastards that shun the sex industry.....they sure as "fuck" don't know what they are missing ;)

 

Then flip them the bird, raise our glasses for a "Cheers" to Cerb and sex and then shag like Armageddon is cummmmming sooooon .... Oh Behave.

 

That a hijack ?

[Guest realnicehat]

The only acceptable communication initiated by a SP is a pm on here. Maybe if a client has given you expressed permission along a specific line of communication it would be OK for them only. But what if his circumstances change and he forgot to notify you that it's no longer ok to email him next time you're in town? Oops! Now what?

 

If a client gives express permission to email him, then she should feel free to email him

If his circumstances change, how is the lady to know unless he lets her know. If he forgets to tell her, oops, it's his fault, yup his fault...not the lady's fault in the least.

If a man makes a mistake he should own up to it and correct it so it doesn't happen again, not blame ladies who email clients because they have been told it is ok to email him.

 

I'm not sure I'd refer to this as a "mistake" but rather an unfortunate set of circumstances that doesn't necessarily need to be "owned" by anyone. I don't know too many guys who have had the time to prepare an exit strategy should they decide it's time to walk away from this lifestyle.

[Athos 108589]

I know what you're saying RNH but I was just trying to make a point with the SP's that unlike RG and nlwoodchuck et al, many of us who have gotten these emails(in some cases close to a year later) would suggest they use pm instead of email. I'm pretty sure in the bliss after an encounter I never told any SP it was OK to contact me via email but a year later, who remembers? For the sake of us who aren't like elephants when it comes to this, just use pm. Then we have to "actively" access the message and are properly prepared.

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As I said before, much depends on context. The ladies who contact me tend to be people I see regularly or semi-regularly. i.e. Everytime they come to town I'm likely to want to see them if our schedules line up. So, in that context, I certainly don't mind them reaching out. If, however, I'd seen someone once, or even twice, but not really made an effort to see them again, then contact might be a bit unexpected. Certainly if I hadn't seen them or heard from them in over a year then contact would be very unexpected.

 

This is also made more difficult/complex by the fact that some of us interact with ladies both through this board, but also through other media such as twitter. The rules regarding contact seem a bit more fluid then they once did.

 

So much of this depends on good judgement, and personal preference.

 

Porthos

[Wolf Knight 29667]

I'm not sure I'd refer to this as a "mistake" but rather an unfortunate set of circumstances that doesn't necessarily need to be "owned" by anyone. I don't know too many guys who have had the time to prepare an exit strategy should they decide it's time to walk away from this lifestyle.

 

 

LOL....I guess I might be in the minority but my little head always defers to my big head. A previous career life of "risk management" has caused me to plan for everything and have backup plans for my back up plans. I "try" to leave nothing to chance. Every now and then I get handed a curve ball but hey that's life.

 

So I guess you know one now ;)

[roamingguy 300291]

I'm not sure I'd refer to this as a "mistake" but rather an unfortunate set of circumstances that doesn't necessarily need to be "owned" by anyone. I don't know too many guys who have had the time to prepare an exit strategy should they decide it's time to walk away from this lifestyle.

 

Maybe mistake a poor choice of words, but if a client gives a lady permission to email him, then his future circumstances change and he no longer wants a lady to email him, but he doesn't tell her that, who really should bear ownership of any consequences of receiving emails.

The ladies are professional, and if told not to send emails anymore, they won't. But if not told, how are they going to know not to send emails

Of course keeping this lifestyle separate from civilian life is something we all have to do, ladies and gentlemen alike, you combine both your just asking for trouble

RG

[Guest realnicehat]

The only acceptable communication initiated by a SP is a pm on here. Maybe if a client has given you expressed permission along a specific line of communication it would be OK for them only. But what if his circumstances change and he forgot to notify you that it's no longer ok to email him next time you're in town? Oops! Now what?

 

If a client has given a lady permission to contact him via email and his circumstances change and he no longer wishes for her to contact him, it is up to him to let her know that...not her fault for continuing contact with him via email if he hasn't told her to stop.

 

If a client gives express permission to email him, then she should feel free to email him

If his circumstances change, how is the lady to know unless he lets her know. If he forgets to tell her, oops, it's his fault, yup his fault...not the lady's fault in the least.

If a man makes a mistake he should own up to it and correct it so it doesn't happen again, not blame ladies who email clients because they have been told it is ok to email him.

RG

 

Maybe mistake a poor choice of words, but if a client gives a lady permission to email him, then his future circumstances change and he no longer wants a lady to email him, but he doesn't tell her that, who really should bear ownership of any consequences of receiving emails.

 

RG,

 

In regards to my point about ownership, Steve brought up a scenario in which a client might be put on the spot should he receive an email. It was offered as a real situation that can and does occur. If you read it again, he in no way insinuates blame upon the provider for this situation. He is simply illustrating why he prefers PMs.

 

It is only in your posts that we find mention of "fault" and "ownership". Certainly this thread has shown that we all have different expectations or preferences and with the exception of what turned out to be a misunderstanding early on, this thread has remained fairly civilized. I fear that your insistence on where fault should be found might take us in another direction.

 

You have made very some good points in the thread but I'm wondering if this "ownership" idea might be worth letting go? I don't feel like anyone was placing blame and I can think of far more interesting things to do with my fingers than point them. :)

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

I agree, RNH. We can all do as we choose and I won't force any of you to "own" it. I simply believe pm's are the easiest and safest choice for an SP to "initiate" contact regarding a future visit. But that's just me, I like keeping things simple and not needlessly complicate matters.

[drlove 37202]

I remember a few years ago, I was seeing a 22 year old Jennifer Aniston look alike on the clock. We developed a good rapport and she would call me from time to time to see if I wanted to "set something up". She was so good looking that I had been seeing her exclusively for about half a year+, and I was single at the time so I didn't have a problem with it.

[LeeRichards 177238]

RG,

 

In regards to my point about ownership, Steve brought up a scenario in which a client might be put on the spot should he receive an email. It was offered as a real situation that can and does occur. If you read it again, he in no way insinuates blame upon the provider for this situation. He is simply illustrating why he prefers PMs.

 

It is only in your posts that we find mention of "fault" and "ownership". Certainly this thread has shown that we all have different expectations or preferences and with the exception of what turned out to be a misunderstanding early on, this thread has remained fairly civilized. I fear that your insistence on where fault should be found might take us in another direction.

Which direction were we heading ? What was the question I kinda forget now ?

 

You have made very some good points in the thread but I'm wondering if this "ownership" idea might be worth letting go? I don't feel like anyone was placing blame and I can think of far more interesting things to do with my fingers than point them. :)

 

Precisely !!! or write paragraphs on a puter...Put your fingers on boobs man !!! BOOBS ! ....boobs BOOBS !!!! ;) Pleasure or medicinal .....

Being the big speaker I am....I was once in a great debate ! He spoke... I said "You Win " and I partied. Just cause I am a happy fella....and I like to party.

[Katherine of Halifax 113931]

Precisely !!! or write paragraphs on a puter...Put your fingers on boobs man !!! BOOBS ! ....boobs BOOBS !!!! ;) Pleasure or medicinal .....

Being the big speaker I am....I was once in a great debate ! He spoke... I said "You Win " and I partied. Just cause I am a happy fella....and I like to party.

I think Lee Richards is one of the happiest men in Canada . We can all learn a great deal if we listen to this rascal!

[Ice4fun 78396]

Now as I come back to this thread and read all the posts I can only conclude that I took this topic to lightly with my previous tongue in cheek response....

 

Bottom line for me... we are all responsible for our own communication so think about what you do before you do it. I hate when businesses cold call me so I would be no different with a SP I have never seen. With the few ladies I have seen regularly I take it upon myself to establish a protocol for future contact. Because I am married and want that to continue I have ensured that those with who I play only have means to contact me that keep me safe. I feel the onus is on me to do that.

 

All that said.... the ladies I regularly see have never left me with the impression that they want to put me at risk...in fact I think they are often overly protective of my privacy and their own. this issue has thankfully never been a problem for me and maybe that stems from the fact that all the ladies I meet are extraordinary professionals.