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This morning while I drink my coffee and read the boards here, I?m struck by how many complaints we have about the guys who take advantage of some aspect of our services and then treat us badly. There are active discussions about men who: Try to negotiate or bargain clearly-stated non-negotiable fees Try to pay less than the agreed fee after they arrive Try to get services that were not agreed on before the date Complain about our screening questions Don?t bother to take a shower, brush their teeth or trim their nails before seeing us Assume that we're likely to rob them Threaten to write bad reviews and/or aren?t believed when they write good ones Insult us, our need for safety and even our looks when we don?t give in to what they demand No one is forced to read our ads and websites, look at our photos, contact us, discuss our services with us, or meet with us. It?s all voluntary and initiated by the client. The client has needs, feelings, preferences and curiosity, but why do so many refuse to take responsibility for themselves? What they express as anger, self-righteous indignation and personal entitlement is really projected self-hatred. I want to sit these men down and say: If you don?t want to see a paid companion, don?t do it. If you decide to seek out a companion, that's your decision. What you want is not what everyone else may want. That?s usually a wonderful thing. Recognize that we?re not like cheap candy that you can buy daily. We?re more like fine dining to be enjoyed occasionally. Plan accordingly. If someone?s prices are too high for you, either wait until you can afford her, or find someone else. Meanwhile, don't blame her for your lack of funds. Recognize that she charges what the market will bear. That means that there are plenty of others who can afford to see her. Always be polite and considerate. No matter what. Even if you feel confused, disappointed or insulted, be polite. Remember that companions are human beings, just like you. We have needs, desires, dreams and things we?re worried about or afraid of, just as you do. We will protect both your health and our own. Fair is fair. If you're worried about your safety, know that she's concerned about her safety, too. No matter who or how important you are or think you are, the one who is taking the most risks is always the companion. Always. Relax.

Dear Samantha, Your concerns, and that of other recent posts, are very disconcerting. At this level these concerns should only be an anomaly and not of a regular occurrence. I fear that this thread and it's message may become lost in time. -Advice for Gentlemen ... A "Do Not Do" List http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=11288 -A heartfelt letter to a creepy client .... http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=11601 Might I suggest, (with feedback), that all of the major concerns be consolidated and presented as a permanent post that would appear on the "Newbies Rule and Regulations section". There should be the availability for Providers to work with Mod to update the list as new concerns become apparent. Further, might I suggest that the first line within the Cerb window, on sites such as Escorts-Canada, have a "Read Before Contacting Service/Experience Providers", where as the link would bring them to the Newbie section with a post that might be called: "Valuable Information Prior to Contacting Provider". There could be a section on Grooming, Contact, Do's, Do Not's, etc. We still have Newbies making inquiries that could well be answered by a thread such as suggested. I know that I first discovered Escorts-Canada prior to accidently discovering "Cerb". For me it started with the list of acronyms and then I discovered the wealth of information that has led me to wonderful experiences and a wonderful community. Tigerclaw

Thank you all for your participation in and contributions to this thread. That we can have a sensible discussion about things that affect all of us is one of the very best things about CERB. However, I must say, with all due respect, friends, that if everyone really knew the things we've pointed out here and elsewhere, a lot of the discussions I was grumbling about wouldn't happen, or perhaps wouldn't be so long and involved. For example, with no offense meant to anyone, I'd like to point to the discussion about what a client should do with his wallet when he visits a companion. Everyone should be careful with their valuables wherever they are. That's axiomatic, I think. But the long discussion in that thread largely revolves around the false assumptions that not only is the client the one who has the most to lose and who is at greatest risk when he sees a companion, but also that companions are likely to be thieves. Unsubstantiated, anonymously-made allegations about unnamed companions are cited as evidence or proof that the concern is legitimate and pressing. Of course, not everyone is honest. It's true that some people may not resist the temptation to take what doesn't belong to them, given the chance. It's also true that people are sometimes negligent and misplace things, even though they're sure they haven't. (I've returned a couple of watches and a cell phone in the last few weeks.) Maybe some of the suspicion and at times thinly-veiled hostility that runs through the threads I've referred to is a product of a society that considers sex to be wrong, dirty or sinful. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that most of our clients are married men and quite a few of them feel guilty about what they're up to. It could be something else. My point is that I'm not really preaching to the choir. These topics are under discussion because some of us need to report on the things that have happened to us, often with clients whom we've screened the best ways we know. On the other side, clients also want to report experiences they've had where they felt they didn't get what they expected. If we all had the same expectations and assumptions, our experiences would be more alike and we'd have less to complain about.

Boner I should make you my marketing manager! I've had a few emails about this place none of them favorable. I decided to scope things out and gave "Dave" a call from the call I discovered that Dave is in fact Marty, like that's a shocker. His speaking style was exactly the same as Marty's witting style, and that's not saying much. The same erratic all over the place randomness and jumping from though to thought. It was apparent that he was on something. He made no sense describing the girls, he would ask a question and then not allow time to answer until he jumped in again with another, it was freaky. He was very vague about the descriptions of the girls, would not be specific about restrictions, or more importantly ages. He just kept going on "oh yeah they're hot, hot and wet buddy...what's your address. You seem like a good guy I'm going to give you another 40 dollars off, cause your going to want to come back, yeah she's wet and waiting..." what a joke. They seem to have faded away for now, but will likely be back with a different phone number and location, but no matter where they relocate definitely a place to avoid .

This is an extraordinary thread. Thank you to all. It struck me however, that the title has "Gentlemen" in it. If one is truly a gentleman, much of this advice would not be necessary. Perhaps, we need a "finishing" school for all the lads who have not quite become accustomed to the proper ways of treating people, men and women, but especially our delightful courtesans who care to our fragile needs.

Actually in Canada as long as you are not in a public place you can openly discuss sex for money. Some ladies prefer not to and some don't realize that it is perfectly legal for them to do this. You can also discuss particulars about sex for money in private but if you discuss this in a hotel lobby, a hallway, a public coffee shop, etc.. your in deep trouble! If however you work in a brothel (including a massage spa or even a stripclub that allows sexual acts) it than becomes risky to discuss sexual acts with people even in private as the acts are not illegal but working in a brother is very much illegal - and you are admitting to breaking the law. Prostitution in Canada is legal (I know some of you don't beleive this but are too lazy to go read the law and learn this for yourself - the internet is your friend spend a few hours and do some homework)! What is not legal is solicitation (discussing sex in a public place) - the internet is not considered a "Place" so it is not illegal to discuss sex acts online. A magazine or print ad is also not a "place" so you can make ads explicit for services if the medium would allow you to BUT if your breaking the law by working in a brothel, underage, pimping, etc.. than your discussion in private is still bad as it's evidence that you are breaking the law. So... if the lady does incalls (Even is she is the only one working from that location) she probably will not discuss details. The law tends to ignore the ladies who work privately in residential area's but are very interested to know about commercial places such as spa's, stripclubs and actual brothels. Let's face it, the lady working by herself in a incall location is more safe than doing an outcall so forcing them to do outcalls to keep it legal is not what that law was intended for. The law is againt pimps, brothels, streetwalkers, underage girls/guys and all the really bad stuff. Drugs is also a big thing they watch for and discussion of any kind involving drugs would bring unwanted attention.

The lady was right to be upset with you. The term GFE does NOT imply any services. It is a style of service. You did not ASK for a BBBJ you assumed that GFE included this (and you were WRONG). You owe this lady a big apology and money! Most people here would agree that leaving and taking the money you agreed to pay her for the time was very wrong and since it was a mistake on your part you should repay her for her time or you are stealing from her. I would suspect your number and name to show up in the bad date lists because of this. This is unacceptable.

I like the flavoured ones, too, Mandalay, but they're significantly more likely to break during intercourse. They're great for oral, though!