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Yes Amelia I would agree that a "GOOD SP" would re-read the emails and be more organized but some would not care about this as long as the lady was pretty and excited them. We all have different standards and we all have things that bother us and things we can overlook. We all do not all put the same "VALUE" on such things as adequate or organization skills. It's like the people who come onto cerb and try to correct bad grammar in posts (Grammar Police). Most of the ladies here are not highly educated (a good portion are but we have a lot of high school drop outs as well) but that is the nature of this business. I personally have horrible grammar and I don't care as I do not value grammar like others do... but those who do value grammar look down at people like me. If they expect everyone to value grammar the same as they do they are just setting themselves up for a life of disappointment! You may NATURALLY have the ability to be this organized but a lot of people DO NOT have this skill naturally and it takes time to learn (if at all possible as some people are not able to learn such things). You may have grown up with parents who took the time to tech you respect and manners (Both are learned behaviors)... not everyone was lucky enough to have this guidance... some will need to learn this late in life (and that is not always easy). I feel that every generation becomes a little less polite then the previous. Maybe it is because we have such things as high divorce rates and dual income families, etc... parents are too busy to properly teach their kids, some parents don't have these skills to begin with, some parents are too young to have these kids, etc.... so kids are not being taught these values at home like they were in the 50's and prior when the woman would stay home with the kids. Cell phones are no longer luxury items, these younger people have grown up with them as part of the culture now (They are taken for granted) and etiquette that we "Older" folk expect from cell phone users is sometimes not even a consideration. (and it should be - I agree). You obviously are organized, polite and have a good business sense... you may come by this naturally but I assure you... many people don't. This lady may have the potential to be a great SP (and is doing enough things right that she is getting some praise by guys who may not have expectations like stevecurious has but she may never learn without enough people pointing out what she is doing wrong. You are either "book smart" or "experience smart" (Formal training or time)... the exception to the rule is that you naturally have good business sense (and this is surely a exception to the rule). If you really think every SP (even the new ladies just getting into the business) should naturally be well organized with proper etiquette and manners you will be disappointed. Let me state the obvious... -You do not need college education to be a SP (Or high school for that matter) -You do not receive training for this job -You do not need to have a resume to get a job in this business -You do not need to pass any test or exam to qualify being a SP Many ladies (Like Amelia for example) seam to get it! They realize that having your phone ring during the session is bad (and she may have known this on her first date or she may have learned this over time - I am not sure) - same with organization (She may naturally be organized, she may have some admin skills from a past job or formal training) but this NOT the case with everyone. Maybe I am the only one who will actually come out and say this... Many of the NEW ladies (New to the business) really have no clue about how to conduct themselves, how to run a business, market themselves, etc... they will either learn this over time and some never learn. Either way they will still succeed in this business (It's just that kind of business) but the ones who "Get it" and learn how to work the business properly will obviously do much better. Keep in mind that a lot of ladies (NOT ALL) turn to this business not because they LOVE the BUSINESS but because they have very little choice! The REALLY GREAT ladies LOVE THE BUSINESS!

I'm with Steve on this one. You should not have to ASK for good service. You should not have had to have had a previous date with someone in order for them to fulfill your requests in the next session. If the lady is on cerb there is no excuse for her to have not read about the ubiquitous cell phone complaints. No 'business training' is required for simple politeness and respect. I don't care if the ladies are busy. Being a good sp is about briefly re-reading the email of a client you are about to see and knowing, to the extent that you can, who he is and what he wants. That's just common sense.

I think it is very rare to find someone who does not have ANY sort of work experience. Even with a minimum wage as a teenager, you learn the importance of work etiquette and organization - you have to be at work on time for your shifts, you have to remember to bring your uniform/swipe card/etc, and you learn proper customer care [including remembering specific requests]. I've been a manager [with high school kids as employees], so I know that some times shit happens and things get forgotten, but I also know that the customer has the right to speak up when service is not up to par. It's disrespectful to say that because a "majority" of SPs do not hold a degree [high school, university, etc.] they cannot be held to a level of organization - these are skills we learn in grade school, even! On a side note, mod: You say that some people look down on you because you don't have the strongest grammar skills. I'll admit it - I wince when I see some of your posts, and some posts from some of the ladies out there. NOT because I am "looking down on them," but because it's painful to see someone in a professional aspect [we are, after all, self-employed and running our own businesses] projecting such an unprofessional image of themselves or their business. It's one thing to misspell a word here or there, it's quite another to completely butcher the English language when advertising services.

I think my problem with all this is that no one is responsible for teaching these SPs good manners, ESPECIALLY not the client. I don't think this is an environment in which nurture and growth are the responsibilities of cerb, the client, or other SPs. This is BUSINESS. Not group therapy. If these girls don't know how to fulfill a simple request or turn off the phone, it's no one's problem but their own. Good manners and common sense have nothing to do with 'natural ability', previous work eperience, or 'polite parents.' This isn't a situation in which we all need to be a little more understanding about bad service because it's reflective of greater societal problems, or because the real issue is the victimization of the next generation by an unjust society and ill-equipped parents. Cell phone etiquette and politeness are taught to children as early as kindergarten. There's no excuse for bad service. I, for one, am not going to invest in an overused and feel-good mantra about nurturing poorly-mannered prositutes because really it's not their fault. If I go somewhere and get bad service, I don't go back. The last thing I would expect these hard-working and high-paying clients to do is sit down and wonder how they might help the sp be a better sp. The sp sucks? She sucks. Not your fault, not my fault. See another girl.

I don't think a girl saying no to a 3rd shot with 10 mins left is disrepectful at all. Yeah, you should get the time you paid for, but these aren't machines you're dealing with. Out of that 10 mins, how much time were you allotting for her to get dressed and clean herself up a bit afterwards? Or have a polite exchange to say thanks for coming and good-bye? Should that be outside of the hour? I wonder where the disrespect came in...

I think this is a really interesting discussion. I know I've only been here a short time, but I know I and other women here are proud of our skills and don't expect to be excused for poor service just because of the nature of the industry. This work is not easy (although it can be rather enjoyable :) ) and certainly there are many victims in the industry, but many of the women on CERB do not fall into that category. I don't think poor upbringing, lack of education, whatever other reasons people might have, are not excuses for plain rudeness. Cell phone mannerlessness (ooh, talk about bad grammar, sorry) is my biggest pet peeve.

I agree with Annssa actually I believe that if a sp/ep fails to follow through on a agreed upon special request weather it be attire,fettish.fantasies.or a specific sex act it is just another form of bait and switch. Personally I am not comfortable discussing these things beforehand I prefer to check out a sp/ep recos and web sites before hand to get a good idea if she is someone I would like to spend time with. Sever months ago I did have a similar experience as Steve with a sp/ep I had seen a few times before we had exchanged several pm's with a couple of special request on my behalf when I arrived she had no recall of these request even though she had replied to all of them for that matter I'm not sure if she even remembered who I was. That was several months ago and she is also a well reviewed lady here on cerb I have not been back and have no intention too the way I see it if I can take the time and read through several pages of recos and web pages the sp/ep should take the minute or to it would take to check a few pm's before our date.

Indulge me here if you will on a bit of a rant and reminder regarding NO SHOWS. Apologies to anterlman for cutting in on his rant turf!! :) I've heard a number of complaints and concerns raised in the past while from various providers regarding clients who pull no shows and how frustrating it can be for them. I agree entirely that no shows mean time wasted, frustration and lost income and in the end they are just plain rude. In this day and age of communications tools ridding on our hips with a touch of a few buttons we can send a text, email or even an old fashion actual phone call to explain that we might be late, or possibly unable to attend. While it's still frustrating and lost income, the courtesy of the communication is appreciated and expected. I'd like to point out that the same frustrations are experienced from the client's perspective and that hopefully those new to the hobby or just not aware that when a provider pulls a no show it can be equally frustrating, is certainly a waste of time and can also result in lost income. I'm not sure that some providers take that into consideration when bailing out at the last minute or just not showing up as planned. Having recently had to dance through hoops in some cases to meet some established and well recommended ladies only to have the appointments booked and re booked or plain out canceled with little to no notice. Twice this has happened in recent weeks and twice it has ticked me off. I understand that life happens and shit hits the fan every now and then but I would hope and expect that the common courtesy of a phone call or text to explain why you've been waiting in a hotel lobby for 30 minutes is not to much to ask, is it ? This isn't directed to any one in particular by rather to serve as a reminder to all to do unto others as you would have them do to you. Thanks for hearing me out!

My nature is to do what I said I would do. Therefore when I book an appointment, I will do everything in my power to make it happen. I've have had to cancel around 5% of my appointments due to sickness or emergency. Always with 8hrs or days of advance warning. It really irks me when others (both hobbiests and SPs) don't operate this way. I'd say I've been jerked around plenty by SPs but I expect it to a degree. SPs are running a business and shit happens. I'm OK with SPs cancelling for any reason they have. Just please be upfront and don't leave me hanging. I don't even need an explanation. I've changed my mind is good enough. Here are some of the Cool - Not Cool behaviors I've experienced: - showed up on time, no one is there (Not Cool). Later I realize I got cancellation email 20minutes before appointed time (Cool). After an appologetic email this lady is still in my good books (Cool). - had confirmed appointment , called 1hr prior as arranged for exact loaction. Called 2 more times, no answer (Not Cool). Apologetic emails after the fact (Cool). - get an apologetic email the day before cancelling (Very Cool) Thankyou. - date and time arranged, waiting for final email confirming appointment. Never get any emails. Days later, politely inquire what happened? Is everything OK? No response (Not Cool) It's a complete mystery. - get an email the day before saying time X isn't going to work anymore, how about time Y (Cool) I can understand that SPs that get jerked around by clients (ie no shows) are not going to feel too guilty jerking around clients. So hobbiests if you want to improve things, please don't be a no show. It seems to be one of those "what goes around comes around" situations. If everyone treats others as they expect to be treated, then everything would be very cool.

Hi Rosalie. we have a SP ONLY (Private area) with a BAD DATE list here on cerb. PM me about gaining access to this area. This is not the appropriate place to post into like this so I am closing this thread but if you wish to post a bulletin to warn other ladies when this sort of thing happens the SP ONLY area is the place to do this.

To further comment on the MOD post it is more than just the ladies that experience these issues. I can, and will only speak for myself about anything but when requests are made, be they large or small, they should be fulfilled! When a lady requests that her donation be placed on the table before the session starts I don't wait until I am leaving to go home to give it to her! The same should hold true for the SP's! I like to think my time is just as valuable as their time is, so please let us all respect each others time and requests! That way SP's will have repeat clients and we (the clients) will be more than happy to return!

I will not repeat what Buggernot just said but I will totally agree with him though! I'm very sorry to hear what happened to you and how scary it must have been to be in this situation... I can only imagine! :-? I don't want to cause a negative wave of energy here but a few questions keep coming back to me and I keep asking myself; - "Where did she get her reference from?" - "Did she at least ask for references?" - "Did she know the neighbourhood?" - "Why not leave when he didn't have the donation?" - "Why go to the bank with him?" In no way do I want to make you feel like you are responsable for how the gentleman(men) conducted themselves with you... I guess I'm left wondering why not every Lady who is involded in the industry doesn't require at least one reference from another Lady companion for a first time rendez-vous (especially in a private residence) and why put herself in a risky situation when it can be avoided! I mean no offense to Ladies who don't ask for a refence but I would like to know how else you protect yourselves. :confused: Stay safe Rosalie! xox

This might sound a little silly but could some of you explain to me why a "second round of pleasure" would not be shared during a rendez-vous (when time permits) or why it would actually cost more when the gentleman is already giving his companion a donation for the time he is spending with her... It doesn't make any sense to me! Thanks! :) xox

Myself as well and I get very few complaints! As long as you are aware and conscious of the fact and you make an effort to be gentle all is good!