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This is a discussion I get very passionate about. Having sat on both sides of the fence I can say with certainty that it is a community effort to provide quality industry wide. Here is a little insight into both agencies and indies that many do not understand. Both serve a specific clientele and are necessary. Some may find it interesting reading, others will not. AGENCIES The agency acts as an AGENT for SP's that choose not to handle the business side of this industry. The Agency works for the SP. Here is a situation that can be ideal for ladies who are not business oriented, do not want their bodies plastered over the internet for a myriad of reasons and make a choice to allow someone else to do the tasks they do not want or can't do. It is the easiest gateway into this industry and a perfect place for a beginner to get her feet wet. Beginners, tho the demand is high for them, are the most unstable and unreliable group to deal with on a day to day basis due to their age and inexperience. You never know how this business is going to impact them mentally, physically and spiritually. Agencies need staff stability so their SP's are on shifts which means they may be working when they would rather be home in bed. Agency staff have to be receptionist, negotiator, schedule manager, counselor, confessional priest, fashion adviser, bookkeeper, trouble spotter, deescalation expert and last but not least task master just to name a few of the hats they wear simultaneously. If there is more than one person on the phone at a time they are lucky. Good Agency staff have more on their plate than anyone imagines. If their plate is not overflowing, they are not doing their job. I had many wonderful girls come to work for me that seemed very well suited and by the third week they were a mess. Why does this happen? I constantly tried to improve my agency to ensure my girls were cared for. 10 years later, I am proud to still call many of them friends. So what was the problem? The only factor that was consistent and I had no control over was the clients. Many men who use agencies do not treat the SP as a person. A girl can run 5 appointments in an evening and it only takes one to screw her night up. This is not a business for the tender hearted or thin skinned. Because Agencies have a younger SP base, the girls take things personally and there can be serious damage done to their self esteem. The damage can be cumulative, and 6 months after a sweetheart starts she can end up seeming hard, uncaring and cold if she is not protected and cared for by her Agency. Many Agency SP's carry shame about what they are doing because they are still operating on the belief system our society instills in most of us. All it takes is one client that has that "your disposable" energy and she's hit. He doesn't even have to say anything, it's a feeling and once it touches you, you can't scrub it off you with stainless steel wool. Younger SP's haven't yet found their inner strength as a woman, let alone make friends with the wildness within. Most struggle with living a secret life and trying to reconcile who she thinks she is with who she truly is. This not just a job, it is a challenge to ingrained beliefs that have been there for generations. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to jump into this industry. It takes perseverance and a rare determination to stay in it long term. Running with an agency can be incredibly hard even for a seasoned pro. More often than not, SP's arrive on the Agency steps with more baggage than a luggage carousel. No little girl grows up wanting to be an SP. 99% of the time life hands them circumstances and they end up in a bind for $$$. They look to this income to fix their problems. What they don't realize is that $$$ doesn't solve the real problems, just alleviate the symptoms. So if an agency SP doesn't live up to her ad, take a look at her age and try and imagine her circumstances. You very well maybe the nice guy who's booked after the jerk. That said, if you are not happy with your service, an agency has more leeway to rectify the situation by offering a next time discount or some other type of perk to keep a customer. But it is up to you to call immediately and let them know. They can't fix it if they don't know it's happened. There are many ladies who thrive with an Agency because they are people oriented and take their work seriously. You will find they are either older or have a maturity that is unusual for their age. A truly good Agency does not have a problem keeping staff, SP's or clients. There are certain markets that make it challenging for an Agency to maintain staff, and I take my hat off to Agencies that service Ottawa. This is not an easy market. Agencies in Ottawa charge what the market will bear and in my humble opinion you get what you pay for. Indies Indies are a different breed of woman. Most started with an Agency but figured out quickly that we like to have more control over our business. We understand the responsibility and dedication it takes to run our own business. Younger Indies are learning as they go. The difference between them and their Agency counterparts is that they can take the time off when they need/want to and do not usually maintain a regular schedule. Do Indies have bad days? Of course they do. We have the option of canceling our day, but we seriously risk damaging our reputation. We have the same "ah ha" moments as Agency SP's, but we have no one to blame when they happen but ourselves. We alone are responsible for who we entertain so when things go wrong we carry the burden, when things go right we carry the glory. We have to wear the same hats as the agency owner and be our own cheer squad. We also come to realize our faults and weaknesses quicker because we are a 1 man show. Indies are usually more comfortable with who they are and what they do. They are more willing to take responsibility when things go wrong. Who does a client complain to when an appointment with an Indie awry? Most clients say nothing, chalk it up to experience and move on. The client should let the Indie know so she can fix it. We go the extra mile because we understand the long term financial impact of losing a client. Are Indies better value? That all depends, what is valuable to you? cat P.S. I had more to write about Indies but my "s" button popped off!

Every so often I think about the ladies I've met that I don't see anymore. There's still contact on cerb, but months go by without hooking up again; meanwhile I am meeting others and occasionally posting about those encounters. This world definitely has a transient nature about it - girls vanish with no warning and clients fall off the radar with regularity. There is also the thrilling aspect from the client's perspective of seeking out something new, something different and wanting to experience that intoxicating unfamiliarity again elsewhere. Yet occasionally I feel a small pang of regret that I have not reconnected with several people that I had some great times with. Now if I had a million dollars, I wouldn't go see the other Barenaked Ladies, I would probably do this a bit more often, and have the resources to go back and revisit certain girls whom I would love to see again. But I don't. Chances are I won't be either - starting to scale back my adventures. So it makes me wonder if there's a slight feeling of loss or a bit of curiosity on the sp's part when this happens. I know it is understood some people embark on this very rarely, others love variety, and a dozen other reasons where this is shrugged off as an afterthought and nothing else. A thick skin is no doubt a prerequisite for this occupation. But are there times when a girl kicks back and thinks, "What happened?" Not in a 'what's wrong with me' kind of way, but more of a reminiscent, 'would be nice to see him again' manner. The professional, stock answer is to say, 'That's how it goes and it's ok', but surely there are exceptions to the rule?

This is a great question, and everyone will have a different perspective on it, depending on their preferences. Personnally, variety is of interest, but at the same time, when you find someone that you had a great experience with you want to repeat. For me that means to find a few that you connect with and then make sure you plan some visits with them from time to time, but explore the new adventure too and enjoy a new experience. Always looking for something that might be a bit different and exciting. So, some balance between the two points, I would say for me.

This is very reminiscent of my own experience. When I was a kid I too didn't know that ejaculation was the result of physical manipulation. In fact, I didn't even equate those nice feelings I had when I looked at pictures of naked women with contributing to the sex act. I just thought there was something magical about the vagina, so that if you inserted your penis in it, "sperm" would come out. At least that's how sex education of the day described it. Of course I now know it is actually true, the vagina is magical... although it's power is much greater than I first suspected... it's capable of getting a man to do just about anything. :lol: Okay, back to the topic. I came from a very sex-less upbringing. No talk, hint, suggestion or innuendo of it. I learned of the birds and the bees from my best friend. No, he didn't show me. He just told me everything his mother was telling him. I was amazed... but also clueless, as you can tell from the paragraph above. I first heard about masturbation from another friend of mine when I was about 12 (actually I didn't hear about masturbating until a little later because he called it jerking off). He told me how his older brother (by a couple of years) and his friends would have circle jerk contests in the basement and about how this one guy would always win (apparently in both delivery time and volume). I was amazed... and envious. My first experience with masturbation is similar to Cato's. I was about 13 and I had a huge crush on one of the well developed girls in my class. This is about the time when the girls you didn't know existed in your class the previous spring, were all of a sudden women you lusted after at the start of the new school year. My friends and I would hang out with the girls at the neighborhood park in the evenings. One night I was lying in bed thinking abut this one particular girl who seemed to also like me. I so badly want to explore her budding body and I began fantasizing about it a bit. Without realizing what I was doing, I guess I had started to rub myself against the mattress... and it started to feel soooo good. Not too long later, just as Cato described it, I was overwhelmed by the most intense wave of warm feeling ever. It was indescribable. I didn't want it to ever end, but then I felt the sticky warm wet spot I was lying in and I was scared. Didn't quite know what I would see when I turned on the lights. Amazingly, I didn't really see much. Although I guess my Mom saw plenty the next wash day. Anyway, I will always remember that special moment and the girl that inspired it. Lily, wherever you are, you are the girl of my first wet dream! Oh btw, I'm happy to report there have been many more wet dreams about many more girls since. 8):wink:

Vanessa, when you say this: "how ever I am puzzled regarding all of the the unprotected activities people are willing to take part in ..so my question is this (to the SP's)....do these "no restrictions" policies apply to whomever you meet with????", it does sound like your judging a bit... But that's ok. ;) I have of course some restrictions but only a few. I'm not comfortable discussing publicly what they are but I still can answer some of your questions. First of all, just a little clarification: it would be nice if people stop assuming that SPs who are more "liberal" only care about making good business. Some of us want to enjoy ourselves sexually as much as possible and that's why we share some specific intimate acts with the men we meet. For example, I really like kissing and that's the main reason why I offer it. I voluntarily meet only a few men weekly so the "volume" is not an issue for me. Would I be so open if I was seeing several men a day? Probably not. Do I offer the exact same type of service to every men I meet? No, I don't. I'm hoping the people I select are smart enough to understand that chemistry and personal hygiene plays an important part in how I will interact with them. Don't get me wrong, I always do my best to please whoever I spend time with. But that "best" is influenced by the context of the encounter and it's only natural that the more we hit it off, the more giving I will be. I never had a situation where my partner told me they were upset because I did not do this or do that. I never even sensed it. If the day comes when someone tells me they don't accept my personal limits, I will have to explain to them that eventhough I'm an escort, I'm first and foremost a human being.

GFE is a "Style" of service (Not specific acts and definitely not meaning a "superior erotic service"). GFE (Girl Friend Experience) means that the meeting will not be cold and to the point (Mechanical) it is a more intimate experience and does not imply or include any specific services. Questions like this are really answered with common sense. Chemistry plays a big roll in a successful intimate experience. If the guy is a dick or the lady does not enjoy her job intimacy will most likely not be on the menu with anyone (Indie or agency). Many Agency booked ladies have been recommended over the years. The agencies job is marketing the ladies, booking the ladies, answering calls, emails, scheduling, etc... The ladies often choose to work with agencies when (1) they are new to the business and (2) when they do not wish to do all this work themselves. Without the agency the lady has to pay for her own expenses like phone bills, advertising, etc.. and has to make additional time for scheduling, answering emails, placing ads, etc... etc... (This takes up a LOT of time)... Often well worth the cost of having the agency do this work for you. Don't assume that because the lady works with an agency she is not going to give you the same service. A reputable agency will not continue to book ladies that they get negative feedback as it damages the agencies reputation and in turn other ladies will not wish to work with them as the guys will not want to call them to book the same (or other) ladies in the future. It would just be bad business to keep the ladies who the customers complain about. Don't be lazy when choosing a lady (Like cutting out 1/2 the ladies by saying agencies are not as good as indies) do your homework. Find recommendations that sound interesting to you. Look for things that you value that someone else has experienced and don't be afraid to book a lady through a agency if she comes highly recommended! Keep this in mind... Good agencies have happy ladies and lots of business - bad agencies have unhappy ladies and unhappy clients (as they do things like bait and switch and demand the ladies work ridiculous hours - and often take too much $$ and not enough calls) A highly recommended lady is not going to work for a bad agency for long but many do not wish to work for themselves so they will seek out good agencies to work with. With well run agencies... the agency works FOR the lady (Not the other way around)