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Doesn't sound too good to be true just plain sounds bad...IMHO gang bang, fantasy or real is just waiting for someone to get hurt, usually the woman. I'd rather spend some quality time with one woman for an hour or two than stand in line waiting for my turn I also think from the sounds of it, some guys (if not all) are going to end up get rolled for their money, and won't be able to do anything because of embarrasment And how many would see an sp if there was a line up of 10 guys ahead of you??? Stay away My 2 cents RG

Trust me... We (or at least I) am feeling the effects of this recent storm of no-shows out East, too. I have had more guys not show up/cancel last minute/book and then not confirm than actual clients lately. :confused: Not trying to start a pity party or anything, but guys, this is our job. Please do not leave us hanging, it could leave us (and our kids, if we have them) hungry, broke, or even homeless. On a lighter note, thanks to all the great guys I have seen who have been respectful and so much fun to visit! You make it easier to look past the negative and enjoy what I do. :boobies:

I have noticed a recent comment or two referring to hobbying as paying for sex. I beg to differ and this is my personal view. To me hobbying is NOT paying for sex and I do not get upset by it at all and these are my reasons: I invite a lady to my home as a guest(or she invites us to hers for those who do incalls) and I pay for lady's time and companionship only. By all means she is a guest in my house (or we are a guests in hers, if incalls) and is treated like one (and many like myself do their best to ensure they feel like guests). What happens after is between two consenting adults. They do not have to do what they wish not to. And they can leave if they wish too. In many cases when I invite nude dancers there is no FS. In most cases the visiting lady has equally good time (I can tell by her wet ......and hot body and flushed face lol) and thank us for the great time she has had. It is a date (RendezVous) not pay for sex. The only difference is that I use cerb (or internet) to find my date instead of going to a dance bar or night club and I donate for her time and kindness with material value in an envelop rather than dinner or jewelry or ring, etc. The reason for hobbying in my case is the "Variety" factor. I love variety. It is possible to do this in certain cities like Montreal (where I lived for 6 years before moving to Ottawa) by going to a night club or dance bar or at the university social events and every Saturday night (with a good chance) to come out with a different lady. I used to do this myself for 6 years (besides as student I didn"t have money to hobby). This is not possible in a relatively small city like Ottawa. Therefore if I want to do what I enjoy most (playing the "variety" game), then I have to hobby (or go back to Montreal where likely I won't have a job). I consider visiting ladies as guests and I hope that they are equally feel like being a guest and having a real good time. How many of you would agree that we should enjoy our time and be happy and how many would disagree that in fact hobbying is indeed paying for sex or we should be upset about it? Am I too optimistic living in a fictitious imaginary world of my own, or at least some of you would share my view?. Views from lady providers are specially welcomed. I do hope that this post does not offend anyone, otherwise I would have to request the mod for its removal. PS - This post is not in any way with reference to any individual or individuals and only expresses my personal views on hobbying.

Why bareback is dangerous: STDs/STIs. A lot of people aren't well educated on the subject. For one, you have to trust that the other person gets tested regularly. And the statistics on that are horrifyingly low. Secondly, even if they do get tested regularly there are some diseases (like AIDS) that can be carried by you and trasmitted by you but can sometimes not show on a test for months. This means even someone who gets tested regularly could still give you more than money or a good time. When it comes to my health I don't trust anyone but myself. And any SP who values her health will not partake in any activity that jeopardizes their health. Go play Russian Roulette - the gene pool doesn't need further degredation. Posted via Mobile Device

To this question, in my experience, I never had knowledge of an SP offering all BBFS; and I would run away if somebody would offer that to me. In a way, if some SPs do offer BarebackFS, it would be a good thing to know, so that everybody with common sense would avoid them. Here at CERB, there is an ethic about this hobby; we are here for pleasure and fun, not to risk our lives, and when I say "our", I am speaking about the hobbyists, the SPs,, MPs, and all that share this community.

I have to agree with MasterOwls. Personally, if I don't take the time to stop to break a 20 so I can hit an odd amount, then it is on me. I drop the even amout that came out of the ATM in the envelope and the extra is a tip. I mean really, is 10 bucks really that big a deal.... Come on. Just my opinion.

on top of what Megan said they are the clients we look forward to seeing and anticipate an encounter from, definitely the ones who make us feel special and like we are the cream of the crop and have us smiling for the rest of the day. not a money related sugar daddy thing at all IMO....then again, I currently dont have a sugar daddy but I'm not saying it wouldnt be possible for him to make me feel great if I did have one...jus saying it wouldnt be because of the cash. I think I may have just confused myself there but does that make sense? lol

Everyone pays for sex one way or another. I don't think we can really say it is a bad thing...especially on a board like this. So nobody has said so. I understand what SA is looking for in an SP, and that is fine but not all SP's can provide it.

What is wrong with people when the person (Reddog01) who suggests this could be done in a more respectful way is the one who ends up apologizing. I understand we all get frustrated at times and yes we are free to express that however we choose, but in order to share it with others (especially if posting) in my opinion one should find a way to do it so that nobody feels uncomfortable by it. When the negotiation mentioned in the original post is compared to how a boss/employee would react well, normally an employee has a salary not a rate. We (sp's) do not have a boss nor a salary so is not the same. However, people who do business in any field working independent or having a boss often try to negotiate or get deals and constantly get no for an answer, then they decide if go for another option or taking that one if it covers their needs and suits their budget or look somewhere else. I do know some men think our profession is different and allows them to ask for things they wouldn't ask for anywhere else but Miel as you mentioned you are classy, so just decline that way and if they are the kind that don't listen just say 'I have already said no so will hang up now, thank you for calling' Now, Old Dog, is such a shame that happened to you but is a complete different situation as in your case they stole something from you, this is not the case here as asking for a discount or extras is not stealing from someone, some consider it disrespectful yes but still is different.