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4 pointsGood reviews can not be used to slander someone, damage the ladies business, hurt a ladies self esteem or hurt her feelings. Bad reviews do! We are not dealing with tangible items here - these are real human beings so grading the ladies like a piece of meat or picking out all the shortcomings is just mean and easily exploited. Cerb will have NO part in that and you will never see negative reviews here. If you do (they can slip by at times) or any hurtful comments just REPORT THE POST and I will remove the posts! I have ZERO tolerance for anything like that and I don't care how beneficial some of the guys think that would be... We would close the site before allowing such things.
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2 pointsOne major misconception among both sp's and hobbiests is that membership on cerb somehow means you've crossed the line into a special club that makes you immune to bad behaviour. Simply because the tolerance of cerb doesn't allow you to behave publically on here doesn't change the actual real life mentality of a person who's a member here. Girls mistakenly assume because a client is a ''cerb member'' that he should be trusted. No way. Anyone can be a member until proven a problem. Another misconception is that because CL isn't monitored the same way cerb is that it should not be used to advertise or to find sp's. Of course I advertise there. More people in the whole world know CL and only a few thousand are on cerb.. and several are non-active members as you pointed out. I personally come to cerb simply because several of my other sp friends are here.. I don't ''work it'' to get new clients on chat... but clients do book me from finding me on here sometimes. Most however have booked me from E-C, CL or other sites including my own blog. I often see posts of disillusionment that a ''cerb member'' would do this. Cerb didn't provide a verification of personality or even gender when you signed up. All they know is your ip address and your email etc.. Remember.. always trust your gut and if someone stands you up.. don't get mad.. just let it go.. because the next guy will make your day. Yin and Yang people.. My boyfriend several years ago was a chiropractor and would make a special trip in on his day off to see a new client on several occasions. He would often change our plans to do something which I was completely okay with to create new business.. Almost 20% of the time he would do this the person was a no-show. Frustrating for him but part of doing business.. This was well over 10 years ago so it's not a new phenomenon and certainly not specific to our industry. Having said all that Emma.. your situation would piss me off too! what a nerve..
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2 pointsYou'd be surprised how many times we get a medical excuse. I would not allow someone to rebook with me if they have no-showed on me or other sps. It could be that the guy is telling the truth but I won't take the chance again. It's just not a good business decision. Sorry but it's true. I've heard every medical/car/work excuse in the book and it's always something drastic, like the guy couldn't possibly call because he was in an iron lung or his car stalled somewhere without cell phone reception. It's very very difficult to give someone the benefit of the doubt in this business. Sorry. Also, ladies talk. I've often discovered that no-shows are chronic no-shows after speaking with other ladies. There is no excuse for that and they ruin it for the guys who do have a genuine medical emergency.
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1 pointI may be paying for sex technically, But the instant I hand over the envelope I forget I did hand it over and an even am paying for sex. It just becomes me and her and no one or thing else (unless it is a duo, toys and things lol). Life's Good - LG
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1 pointIt made me laugh out loud, I was like WTF? :lol: well played. So one good turn deserves another .. and surprisingly no one mentioned Dallas.
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1 pointYes, plus the style and tone of the ad itself first attracts the type of gentleman desired. I am sure we have all seen ads that lack this quality on sites other than CL? I don't think you would look at such an ad, regardless of where you see it, and think, "hey, there's a classy upscale lady",, and yet regardless of the location of my ads, I hear that alot. But if you hear enough people say the same derogatory comments about the people who use it (both clients and sps), there are going to be alot of people who start to believe it. And frankly, it is not logical. For one thing, the loudest detractors claim to never use the site. Then how am I to believe they have any idea about the ladies who advertise there, or the clients who use it? These sweeiping generalizatioons are misleading and scaremongering, and it really is offensive to many of us who use it to be swept along with such false accusations. Additional Comments: Pre internet days there were two ways to see escorts: the street view and an agency. The agency had ads in the papers and yellow pages,impossibly for an independent girl. The independents had very little options other than the sidewalk to "advertise". SWs are not (or did not use to be) all low rate car date encounters. SPs are very spoiled these days lol, able to advertise, have phone or emails to set up appts, work indoors, and so on. I do not see CL responsible for the issues going on in the industry, because these same issues have been going on for decades. The most infamous sps are the high track girls in Vancouver. Well known for super high prices, and really low service, including one shot is the goal so for 400-500 bucks you can spend 20 minutes with one of the hottest young women you have ever seen ... who won't let you touch, kiss or daty her. This was pre-internet days 10 years, 15 years, 20 years ago. Are there low rate sps advertising on CL? Yes, because there are low rate sps in each and every city. These desperate ladies used to stand outdoors as well,, but nowhere near those high track hotties, because there is no way they can get 100, let alone 500 from a date. I place newspaper ads. I have for almost 10 years, again, before the prevalence of internet advertising of ANY kind. One advertiser was pulled because she and her two friends ran a "my friend needs my help, plus my boyfriend just arrived, and he wants you out now" scam. She paid almost 200 bucks a month to run this scam lol. Now I suppose she posts online ads to do the same thing. My point is that CL is a symptom, not the problem. Any of the sps that take advantage of such a site would simply have done the same things thru other means. The difference these days is they are exposed much faster, and more people are more asware of them than they ever were before. Guys are realizing that this sort of thing is not supposed to happen, and are able to be more cautious and wiser. And that is completely new. Annessa's description of the typical client is totally correct. I was about to mention that I know of an older sp who has been doing this for a few years. What happens with some of these sorts of ladies is these sorts of sites are very intimidating. They can manage to post an ad or two on CL, but navigating a more complicated site, with discussion areas and perplexing decisions about where to place their ad, or the idea of coming on to check and send pms is just not worth it to them. Usually they find the existing members intimidating, and are afraid to break any rules. Many guys I see don't go online at all (paper ad clients) and have zero interest in using them. I am sure there are many sps who advertise where I do who feel the same way. Basically what I would like to see is a little understanding of the economics behind these choices (for the sps) and less misinformation. If you don't use it, fine, but don't pass judgment on something that you know nothing about.
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1 pointLefty, While agree with most of what you said, I have to draw the line on your comment about Emma's motivation to post a no show. This is a review board for Providers as well as Hobbyists. If this character doesn't fit into the CERB community of respectful and intelligent people, then they should be pointed out. If he booked an appointment and then called after the set time he was supposed to show that he had a medical emergency was disrespectful. There is probably more to Emma's story than she cares to share here in public. The ladies who travel spend considerable amounts of money for flights, suitable lodging food and they depend on hobbyists for a living. When a client books an appointment the provider set aside time for the prospective client and sometimes have to cancel other prospective clients to fit their schedule. I have often heard that its not uncommon for ladies to start preparing at least 1-2 hours before the client shows. They don't get compensated for this prep time. I can fully understand Emma's and other girls point of view on this. Yes shit happens and I'm quite certain that if she felt that the story was genuine, she wouldn't be ranting about. If I dare cancel my dentist appointment on the day I'm supposed to show up, you can be certain I will be billed for it. If you put yourself in the girls shoes for one day, you can understand how frustrating these situations can be for them Just my humble opinion. ATH
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1 pointeveryone is going to have a different experience. I have had both good and bad experiences on Cerb and the same 50/50 experiences on CL. I'[m not saying my experience is the right one, but I think if we can all learn from each other's mistakes, we should also acknowledge each other's good experiences as well. I have many polite regulars who only use CL, its not that they dont know about cerb but they just aren't the types to join a board and are a little bit old fashioned...everyone does things differently and we should respect that. I certainly would not lump them into the category of time-wasters or rude clients just because they're on CL....just as I think it would be unfair to say all cerb members are bad apples because of the no-shows and time-wasters ... they exist on here too but I would never rule out cerb...therefore I dont feel we should rule out CL. Expanding our market as SPs to other sites shouln't mean we are not thinking to the future of this industry if we are sticking to our guns about our rates and respecting our self-image as escorts. The girls or pimps and scammers that advertise poorly on CL are only shooting themselves in the foot and they are certainly the ones who will not be getting repeat business or regulars searching CL to find them again. One more positive thing to think about for Cerb is that a very large percentage of clients I have seen said that they first heard about cerb through a lady they initially met on CL. So its sometimes not strictly the ladies' marketing thats benefiting from having their ads elsewhere. lol...well said ;) puts things into perspective
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1 pointThanks Meg. xo True... Now I'm not saying this applies to her, but I think in many cases we try to treat the addiction and not the underlying cause. Unfortunately, you can tell someone over and over again how much you love them and it won't make their lives any better or their memories and problems go away. If you take away someone's drugs and they lead an unhappy life.. where does that leave them? (Some) People become crack/drug addicts to "get away", relax, forget... You need to give them counseling, other means to relax, ways to feel proud of themselves.. incentive to face their problems and move on. Life is not supposed to be all roses and sunshine, but some of these people addicted to drugs are obviously having a rough time coping with that. If you take a look at women's shelters.. a lot of them have good models for helping women start new lives. We need to expand on that...
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1 pointI will also start by saying that this is not a dig at mod, but i do support what the ladies here have said so far.... many of us cerb ladies also advertise on CL....we have to make the best of all the options available to us to get the most traffic possible....not so many gents are as lucky to know about cerb and it doesnt mean that the ohes who dont know about cerb are all rude or disrespectful (as many ladies will claim of the guys that phone them up via CL)....just the same as the guys cant generalize all the gals who post on CL as pimp-ruled scam artists (not saying anyone has said that...by any means) I definitely agree that if you choose a lady off of CL and are going off of zero research then you are indeed taking a chance....a huge chance. Thats why I feel it is so important that you not judge the source of the information....or the tingle in your pants at the sight of the photo.......but the easy tool of escort research.....google a name and city of a gal! go by a girl that has been reviewed *somewhere*......but take a stab in the dark at a "too good to be true" price and picture of someone whos "new to the biz" and if you ignore your conscience....you have only a hard lesson to learn. Dont bash the site....bad apples exist everywhere...even on here (before they're ruled out of course)....dont let the bad apple ruin you, let it make you wiser in the future.
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1 pointI am the luckiest man alive! I won't get into details as to how all this came about, but this wasn't advertised and I ended up spending time with two incredibly amazing women last night! First Cleo, this woman has the body of a godess! Since I find tatoos to be completely intoxicating, she makes me tingle when I look at her. She also has the most beautiful blue eyes, I could stare into them all day long! Next Kayleigh, a spinner like no other. I swear she is so tiny and so sexy...the perfect spinner in every way. She's like a little energizer bunny, and has the sweetest personality! I'm never really one to give much detail as it's always YMMV, but I figure a little bit won't hurt this time. I was greeted at the door by Kayleigh with the sweetest hello and then a huge kiss. Then a big smile and hello from Cleo and huge kiss for her as well. There I was in presence of two very gorgeous women wondering why someone was smiling down on me! Right away I was led into the bedroom for some threeway kissing. Both women are phenominal kissers, and I couldn't get enough! After a couple of minutes the clothes started to fly! All I will say is this, having both women in every position possible, getting several bbbj's from both ladies and watching Cleo and Kayleigh go down on each other was an amazing experience! They are completely different women, which made for a very unique experience that you don't generally get. I am the luckiest man alive to have had it happen to me. I'm pretty sure this was a one time deal, but would I repeat...absolutely! Thank you Cleo and Kayleigh, I will be forever greatful to both of you!
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