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If all the surgery is complete and she is fully a woman, I don't think she should have to reveal her medical details anymore than anyone else should. Of course, if there are still "spare parts', that should be mentioned fairly early in the deal. As to whether you have already been with such a person... if you couldn't tell, then there is no problem, right?

There has been a lot of activity this week revolving around words and their effect on people and situations. This caused me to remember a video I saw a while back. Give this one a look. It runs 1 min 48 sec. I'm guessing that around 1:26 you will say "Oh" or some such.

The street trade is the only area of the industry that's likely to be affected immediately and, judging by experiences elsewhere, even street sex work will not be fully curtailed or eliminated. In Sweden, there was an initial 40% reduction in street prostitution, but that only lasted a couple of years. Reports are that there are as many street sex workers plying their trade now as there were originally. This is probably because the penalties men face if caught are insignificant. In Canada, the great majority of street sex workers are aboriginal women who are addicted to street drugs and/or are mentally ill. LE doesn't take these women seriously, already, as the Picton murders demonstrated. Moreover, I know from my connections with the downtown east side, here, that the police are already over-extended when dealing with violence, drunkenness and mentally ill people in that neighbourhood. No one I've spoken with in any of the neighbourhood agencies thinks that the police will have any increased motivation for arresting street prostitutes. Social service agencies here are more concerned about what happens when no one knows where the women are. After all, these women are not just working for the money. Many of them prefer to be paid in drugs rather than in cash. LE does little to nothing about the drug trade in the neighbourhood. The drug trade is an essential aspect of the Vancouver economy to such a great extent that it is unimaginable that any genuine action will be taken to get rid of it in the near future. Attempting to get rid of street prostitutes just puts those women under the care of the drug dealers, many of whom already act as pimps. I agree, absolutely! I no longer think that there is any real, legitimate concern about safety and harm reduction. None at all. The federal government takes the position that they have no obligation to look after the safety of women engaged in street prostitution. The harm they face is the price they pay for being on the streets to begin with. Right now, we should really avoid fear-mongering. There is no point in raising anxiety. The federal government is not going to enact legislation while the matter is before the courts. That the Ontario Court of Appeal decision will be heard by the Supreme Court of Canada is a fait accompli. The government will be content to wait for the SCC to make rulings. In the meantime, regardless of what the Himel appeal decides, we can expect the current laws to stay on the books, as-is. I believe that all of the government chatter about changes in the laws means nothing. Even if the government does attempt to write new legislation and is successful in passing it into law, nothing really will change. I am convinced that it's only a smokescreen, or perhaps something that they will point to in future campaigns as an example of their focus on law and order. The government is not interested in prosecuting men for engaging in consensual sex, even if they pay women to be their consensual partners. The government is also not genuinely interested in doing anything that will make a positive change in the lives of women in the street sex trade. They don't consider those women to be constituents: they're aboriginal, they don't vote and they don't represent significantly large enough numbers to be important. Independent paid companions will not be subjected to police interference anymore than we are now. Most of us will carry on as before, increasing our screening requirements and perhaps raising our rates a bit, because we can; because the company of reputable, reliable companions is always a desirable commodity; and because slightly nervous but knowledgeable gentlemen appreciate having one less thing to be worried about and are willing to pay what it costs for that kind of peace of mind. What will happen to the agencies is less certain. In some places, we can expect some of them to close. In many cases, frankly, this would not be a bad thing. However, there are also some very good agencies across the country who may decide to close their doors for awhile, for the sake of expediency. So, for awhile, it may be more difficult to find a group of lovely women to provide care and comfort at bachelor parties, poker nights and Grey Cup parties. Is it a problem when someone has to do some work to find three or four women who are all available at the same time for the same event at the same fee, each? I don't think so!

There comes a time when we all face tough decisions and have to make difficult choices, let's show her some support and love by celebrating her sparkling eyes, witty sense of humor and wish her the best in her future path. We'll miss you Cindy!!

There is nothing wrong with disagreement anyway. If done in a respectable manner it usually helps (me ) see another way of doing things, everyone learns from disagreement and that is a great thing. :icon_smile:

Sometimes I feel I need a receptionist because at times I'm too busy to answer and I will miss another opportunity to see someone else. There have been a few times where I have had Angela answer for me since we work together. I also ask people to call or text me directly becuse I am not always on Cerb. I f guy calls me and they don't hear back, it is usually because I am busy and too much time has passed ( i.e. over 15 mins) for me to call them back. Or they will call me back. Discretion is key in these situations.

I think Cub's main concern is her posting ads under 2 different names when in my opinion the right thing to do would be to be honest which from my point of view would involve the person in question post availability either in the female announcement one without having to give any details on her previous identity or in the transexual ads section but the perception I get from Cub's post is that the fact of her having 2 online identipties may mean she probably is not truthful about other things and that although he mentioned the transexual part it was mostly to explain why he decided not to see her and to ask if others consider the 2 identities issue right or fishy. I may be wrong, hopefully the OP will correct me if that's the case. To me the SP should choose how she wants to advertise and not have 2 names. Posted via Mobile Device

When I was an educator and telling kids about "life long learning', or when I was in workshops and seminars where I was on the receiving end of that message, never in my wildest dreams did I believe that one aspect of my life long learning would be in the area of sex workers and language development. Slut. Whore. Prostitute. Queer. Words. The first time that I received a communication here from a lady who used some of those words to define herself, I was in a state of confusion. "But she seems like such a nice person", I thought to myself. I was rather quick to write back, questioning her on the choice of words, explaining that for me, they all came with negative connotations, thoughts and attitudes. Did she not demean herself by using them? And thus, another aspect of my education had begun. She was quick to respond, and took time to try to explain how those words are being 'reclaimed', and that she and others have adopted them again with pride. I know that in the spring of this year was the first that I heard of slut walks in various cities around the country, and even at that time I wondered, but those events had already started me along the path of accepting that some women WERE redefining language, and doing it positively and emphatically. Reality however cannot be ignored. Lifelong learning is a concept, but a life time of having LEARNED something is a very very difficult thing to overturn, or at least to overturn quickly. How many generations has it taken to achieve equality between races, and no, we are not there yet either. I am trying desperately to reconcile. I know with certainty that my thinking has changed 100% in regards to a woman using those terms towards herself. I understand why, and I understand and respect them for doing so. And I think to myself, "Good for you. Be who and what you are." We live in a society, and some of us have lived in it longer than others. I have a sense that many of the men here on CERB are 'older" while many of the women are a lot younger and therefore of a different generation. Even with what I have learned to this point, I honestly in my heart would find it virtually impossible to refer to a woman as a slut. It is ingrained. It has been forever. And the curious thing is that no one ever specifically taught me that. It just seems that it was, and is, disrespectful for me, who likes to think of himself as a gentleman, a respectful person, to address someone with that language, and yes, there is even a 'tone' associated with it in my head. As I said, ingrained. I have seen over and over here in various threads that women enjoy meeting with respectful, polite, gentlemen. Is there a contradiction there, or does the contradiction lie solely with me? I cannot and should not presume to speak for a generation of men, but, I wonder if others are having difficulty 'unlearning'? Respect for others is something that I believe all of us believe in and try to practice. The respect from others for being who you are and what you are and the language that you define yourself by requires a huge jump by perhaps many of us in that 'older generation'. It is a curious phenomenon that right now, I DO respect the choices that people make in terms of language that they apply to themselves, to their choices of living openly as queer, or prostitutes. I respect the choices and I respect the women who choose that for their right to decide and be and act and define themselves as they wish. But yes, and there is a but here, education is key and that education will take more than simply becoming open with who your are and your semantics, or explaining it once. There is a generation such as myself, who have, who truly have the best of intentions to accept and respect the words/terms and language, but we have many years of indoctrination to overcome. It will take time to change the thinking and attitudes of a generation. I am trying. I am there to a large degree. I am not yet ready to call you a slut. So, where am I in reality? A lifelong learner I am.

i never meet shortcakes, but i like her tattoo. the avatar is also great.

good luck and it's to bad that people write bad stuff on that other board

I've only met her once, but I like Soleil! i think she's sweet :)

It is good to be optimistic (and yes fear mongering is wrong) but at the same time one has to be realistic and ready for the most likely scenario (hence being realistic pays off too). I am not sure on what basis you are predicting what you commented... For example you predict that the Federal government is not going to enact legislation while the matter is before the courts. It is my understanding that whenever a private bill is introduced in the parliament it is voted on within a few weeks on average or a few months at most and the bill will be introduced in September and the Federal government has a majority (I warned you not to elect a majority conservative lol!!!!). The parliament is a separate entity and independent of courts. So not sure why you are so sure that parliament is going to sit ideal for about 2 years until the SCC decides!! I also read that in Sweden business dropped by 90% first few years not 40% so not sure where the 40% came from but yes it has been on the increase since no one yet has been sent to jail but just fined heavily and disgraced publically (as bad). No one is sure same thing would happen in Canada. People may go to jail so why do you thing the Cons are planning to spend billions on prisons lol!!!. In fact they are firing scientists at Environment Canada in order to hire prison guards and that is a fact (I told you NOT to vote for Cons lol!!!). You predict that only street action will be affected. Again I don't see why you predict that because when buying sex becomes illegal and criminal it includes every type of sex for money, incalls, outcalls even at the privacy of my own home to have a date and give gift to my date becomes illegal. As stupid as it seems (and it is) that would be what the law would say...When it becomes criminal it is enough for me (and many others who have never broken any laws in our lives) to stop altogether so business for on-line escorts will be adversely affected too so again respectfully I don't understand your logic. Yes I agree that this bill will not address the very important safety aspects of sex workers and even would make the working environment a lot more dangerous for everyone including clients and sex workers (as per my earlier post in this thread). Enforcement would be easy and not costly. They have to do what they do now at street level and that is placing a few undercover agents among the on-line escorts or even board members and a few well publicized trials and scare everyone off. Mind you a review would become a confession to a crime committed by reviewer (in fact a recommendation would be against cerb rules as it is against the rules to discuss anything illegal on the board) so likely very few reviews if any and therefore harder to know or meet established escorts. Again I can't understand why you believe established SPs will not be affected or even charging more!!!!. This government is the most right wing regime ever in Canadian history and not sure whay you may think they don't mean what they say and it is all smokescreen. They have to show results in 4 years time and that is a significant drop in prostitution as like in Sweden. I believe quite the contrary. I believe we have to say it loud and clear (to galvanize opposition NOW) what it would be if it the bill passes the parliament (totally undemocratic and backward and counterproductive) right now, so that it will never passes the parliament. Provide statistics as in those countries that this law will not protect but rather endanger sex workers and has not been effective in long term and email the results/videos to our MPs when it comes to voting time later in the fall. Understating the effects and glorious optimistic predictions would only help those who want to pass the bill as those opposed would sit ideal and do nothing because they think that nothing would change for them and it would be business as usual or even better as you said they can charge more!!!!. I sincerely hope that you are right in your predictions and that I am wrong in what I call a more realistic scenario if we allow this stupid bill becomes law. And yes most likely your post would be a lot more popular than mine as readers would like to read what they wish to hear lol.

a good summertime sailing song :

Best birthday gift ever? When I was out yesterday with my friends to celebrate my birthday, 9 of my female friends all showed me their boobies. I swear it was heaven. Nothing can beat that.

I just plain adore Cato as a man, and a God. ;)

Just about anything by Steve Coogan, most notably I'm Alan Partridge Saxondale http://youtu.be/j7ppcHDV-C8 Also stitches me up... The Peep Show How Not To Live Your Life

I can't believe I read this whooooole thread... And on a Friday night, even! That's probably saying a lot about my lifestyle I'm not comfortable with. :s I think the only aspect of the industry that would be noticeably impacted by Joy Smith's Bill would be street trade, simply because it would be manageable to enforce. LE targeting outcall or incall indoor work would be just as difficult and costly, hence as rare, as it is today. Realistically, they could use existing laws just as effectively now as they would any new law. But, the street workers are easier to pick off, from a LE standpoint. Another question that should be asked is the practicality of legislating the Bill. As the Himel case has shown, legislation regarding sex work is extremely difficult because of the intricacies of Charter/Constitutional implications. The Swedish Model would be exceedingly difficult to introduce because it would be so open to challenges by opponents based on Charter Rights. Not that it isn't worrying, but for me it's more worrying because it is taking the discussion away from the direction it should be going. None of this addresses safety and harm reduction, which should be the key concern.

Initial contact with Carmen through PM was replied to instantly. Each review above me is true, and she does provide consistent, wholesome, fun and honest experience. Visited her the other day. Carmen's clean - has a stylish bush (soul patch?), minor tatoo, one or two piercing, but nothing dramatic. We spent a little bit longer than anticipated catching up on stuff, conversation that was really easy to connect to, and just getting to know each other. Very much like a date that actually clicked. She's built tight, toned, youthful and strong. Not starving model boney, but really lean and great muscle tone. Fantastic body, fantastic ass. For a change, she's got a little soul patch very neatly trimmed above her honey pot. Really really cute. I booked half hour, ended up staying for 2. I got so comfortable with this one, I wanted to bring her home to introduce to my folks. "Hi Mom, this is Carmen, I met her ... umm ... online!" Performance wise, I needed a lot of assistance today because <insert excuse here>. But was carmen was helpful and managed to make magic happen. There are just those days where (because of old age), you just want to make out. This was that. Anyways, once the game was on, it was on, and soon enough I went off. I much enjoy her quiet sensual deep breathing. She's not s screamer, not a loud moaner, I much enjoyed that. I doubt Carmen will remain available in this industry for long. She's definately the hot girl next door that was always nice to you, but you never had the balls to ask out. She's the hot baby sitter who drops hints you didn't have the courage to act upon. Here's our change guys. I will definately repeat! She was fun, and lovely to be with. Time and money well spent.

For my fellow potty mouths :D

I'm happy to see a comment about this. Since I've started advertising that I have a strap-on, I've received multiple requests from men stating they are a sub and looking for a woman to dominate them. I am not a dom. I am not looking to dominate a man. I will, however, help him enjoy anal sex by using a strap-on with him. A lot of people can't seem to understand that by doing this, I'm not being a dom. Anal sex is about receiving pleasure - at least it is to me, when I've been on the receiving end (although I don't offer greek any longer), and when I'm on the giving end, it's about giving pleasure. No domination involved in either situation.

See, i can do this too :

That comment as well, there is no way in hell that my huge fingers fit on that small type surface of a Blackberry and yes the larger screen is a bonus especially when you are on this site looking at women while I should be working :)

I went away....and then I came back, and boy am I ever glad I did! :icon_smile:

Bridgette will post her schedule in her 'about me tab'; she is both day time and evenings, about twice a week... http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=44586 and she is gorgeous!

Illegal as in the letter of the law or illegal as in what is currently practiced in Ottawa? Currently, roughly 96% of charges for prostitution are "soliciting in public or within public view" which is what joeblow1969/gagagaga was talking about. Bawdy houses are not currently being prosecuted in Ottawa unless there are exceptional circumstances. The practice of the law is much more relevant than the letter of the law.

Don't take this the wrong way Samantha, but you, as all other SP's, are ladies. Whether I know you from reading posts, or pm's or from encounters, each and every one of you are ladies to me RG :-)

Words do have meaning and a force either taught or by cultural assimilation. For me, faggot is always a bundle of sticks and fag a cigarette. *shrug* There is no need to call someone a slut or whore just because they reclaimed the word. As long as you understand the context in which it is used the words themselves would take the meaning the speaker intends. Call the ladies in the polite manners in which you were taught.

tongue firmly in cheek... why the over 35 crowd gets the girl.... 1. Multiple shots on goal means a three day booking 2. We are extraordinarily grateful that someone will even stay in the same room as us when we are naked. 3. Nap time is on the clock. 4. Cuddle time may just be the best we can do. 5. Less likely to stalk, we barely even remember where we live. 6. While we remember to bring the envelope, we might not remember why we came. 7. We can help with history assignments in post secondary courses. We were there when it all happened. 8. Arthritis prevents us from being too grabby.

As the ohhhhh so lovely Kimberly and Meg have stated, we have rules and one of those rules is that we don't discuss things that are illegal. CERB provides a great opportunity to express views, share stories and generally have fantastic discourse between business person and client. I really believe that this industry is a pioneer in open and frank dialogue - and this outlet, our beloved CERB, is one of the safe havens where you can develop and foster a real understanding of the concerns that are out there. Sometimes we all make errors in judgment. We assume that people will be on board with our personal sense of humour, our moral code, and our sense of joy or outrage at world events. We push the boundaries of good taste, we make light of other's misery, we dismiss other's beliefs because they do not align with our own. That's life. That's reality. That's also the rationale for having rules. The rules, let's face it... the rules are pretty damn liberal. We talk about stuff here that would make our moms blush. It's lively, it's serious, it's lighthearted, it's sexy... and it's all ours. The few rules that we have are there to protect our collective derrieres. We may not always agree. We may regret what we have written. We may have to sit in a corner for a week or two (mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa...) for being too lively in our discourse or intercourse (hehehehe I said intercourse!!!) - but warts and all, you will NEVER find a better group of people with a sense of commonality and community than we have at CERB. That's just one cents worth... I am saving my other penny for the champagne room ;)

I just wish there was a nicer term for it. "Greek" always makes me think that feta cheese and tzatziki sauce are involved, and that's not something you want to be thinking about back there!

Cerb newbie Erotic Emily has a great hard body. Here's a view I like: Thank you, Emily.

So a couple days ago, I was walking through the rideau centre and bumped into THE ex-girlfriend. Yes, not just an ex-girlfriend, THE ex-girlfriend. I've dated numerous girls in the past, but nothing was ever too serious with any of them, except THE ex-girlfriend. We dated for three years, which might not seem like a lot for some of you, but for me that's like a dating decade. I hadn't seen or heard from her in almost a full year, and we bumped into each other. There was some awkward talk.... HER: Well it was nice seeing you, we should catch up some time? ME: Sure, that sounds great! (I don't really mean this, it is just saying no, would be kinda awkward) HER: What you doing now? Want to grab some starbucks? My treat? ME (in my head): FUCK ME (in real life): Sorry, I would love too, but I'm actually headed out to grab lunch with someone. (I really was!) HER: Oh ok... ME: K, well I have to go, it was nice catching up with you! Most awkward conversation of life. Anyways, earlier this afternoon I got a text from her asking me if I wanted to meet up. First off, I didn't even know she still had my number, because I didn't have hers. And I had to decide what to do.... I turned on the PVR in my brain and rewinded back to how it ended..... ************************ I'll admit, this is the one girl that has left me heart broken. I use the word broken, because when we broke up, I actually felt physically broken. Like, I no longer was hungry, I'd sleep in & always go to work late, I was like a vampire and hated sunlight, would listen to Coldplay all day, and thought everything in the world sucked. Needless to say, I was being extremely over-dramatic, but at the time it did feel normal. Listening to sad music all day like Snow Patrol didn't help at all. I was sad, bitter, depressed, dejected, all rolled into one. I was so sad, almost like the sad you would see when you leave your apartment, and the dog keeps barking and is thinking... DOG: What are you doing? I don't understand! (yes, dogs have thoughts too!) I didn't understand the break up at all. We were so wonderful, happy, and in such a good place. We would be happy going to a fancy restaurant, we would be happy staying in, ordering pizza, and watching a movie, we would be happy just being together and laughing at all the stupid bullshit in the world. Immediately after the break-up, I would only think about the fun moments, I refused to remember the bad. The truth was there is always bad, by to my silly brain it didn't exist. I realized about 3-4 months after our break up, a better understanding of it all. That the sadness does go away. I can eat my food, I can hug & kiss without feeling guilty, that its ok to have a crush, and I that I can like someone else for a minute, a day, a month, or however long I want. I've come to the realization that love comes slowly, but your first love comes intense, emotional, and slippery, and that's the same way it'll exit... intense, emotional, and slippery. I realize there's no need to rush, and now when things don't work out (which happens often, lol), the end doesn't feel like a monumental clusterfuck. Look at me now, I'm me. I'm so much different a person then when I was dating her before. I don't fall so deeply in the puddle of BS like I used too, I'm more mature, and wiser. Hell, now I got a real job, I do big-person things like groceries, laundry, and pay my bills. I'm an adult!! ROAR!!! I'm free to see who I want, I'm allowed to think that girl at Starbucks is cute, I can have flings with friends, but I also know that the real thing does exist and will be there waiting for me regardless of how long I decide to take. Because why rush? ****************************************** So what did I text her back? I just told her no. I'm over with it. I was over with it before, and today confirmed it. The whole point of this post? Forget about silly people in the past, and be happy with yourself. You will get over it. You know why? Because you will be a better you. Just move on. *imaginary high five to anyone who has had their heart broken, because now we're all so much better*