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Replying to a bunch of stuff from the last couple of days... You've stated your point of view, yes, but my question remains... Not a dirty word, perhaps (more on this below), but nevertheless a counterproductive one. Again: it's just not worth it. Right. And I'm arguing that any attempt to haggle is stupid and counter-productive in the long run, even if you do get lucky on occasion. Kinda like playing the lottery, but the odds are even worse. So, yes, I'm happy to concede that we all have the freedom to shoot ourselves in the foot if we feel so inclined. What I'm getting at, for the benefit of folks new to this (since this thread is in the "New To This" forum) is that shooting yourself in the foot is a really bad idea. And also, stupid. And yes, perhaps you do deserve to be ridiculed if you try it, having read this thread... Or ignorant of what they're missing out on, perhaps. May I suggest you go back and read cyclo's excellent post on the difference between haggling and negotiation? Although you keep talking about "negotiation", that seems inaccurate. What you advocate is haggling: you're trying to get a simple one-time discount, rather than there being any genuine give-and-take. Or if you disagree with that characterization of your position, perhaps you'd care to tell us: when you ask for a discount on a SP's rate, what do you offer in exchange? If you truly negotiate, you won't find that question hard to answer - and I'm sure I'm not the only person who'd be interested to know what that answer is. And while you may not think "negotiation" may not be a dirty word... can you say the same of "haggling"? Two things to say to this. First: if they began haggling, that's their right. It doesn't mean it's a good tactic for you to do so if they don't. Second: as I've asked previously, do you really think you got the same service for your reduced rate? If you do, please explain why... It's not that anyone wants to... it's just that some of us consider some ladies to be worth the effort. If you're that desperate, I suspect a lady with six pages of etiquette guidelines is unlikely to take last-minute appointments and you'd be better off calling someone else :) Still, I may be wrong... True, but I think most SPs would not be flattered by the comparison to McDonalds. But if you're OK with it... you said it, not me. I think you're dead right on this... and really, that's the audience most of us are aiming at. We all know this debate is utterly dead to anyone who's likely to join one side of the other. The prize here is the influence on the silent masses; alas, none of us will ever know whether or not we've won it. A word to those people: if you never post, you will never persuade anyone of your point of view, and things will never change. Obvious, yes, but perhaps it needs saying... But as I said earlier, this is no longer about them. It's about the audience, who are largely silent. My motivation here is simply to get them to think about the pros and cons of haggling before they try it. My thoughts on that are that the odds are so far against you that trying it is simply stupid, and I'm really looking for someone - anyone - to provide some sort of counter to that. Nobody has, yet. Two things here. First, there are some ladies who are clearly sick to death of being haggled with. You may not be there, but I get the feeling others are... and that this thread was borne of exasperation rather than anything else. Secondly, there are quite a few of people who feel that the wannabe hagglers should be shot down. Some of those are the ladies who are sick of it; some of the others are guys who don't really like seeing the ladies who may be friends having to put up with that crap. I suspect you benefit from this, even if you don't wish to read it. Or go ahead and argue the toss, if the mood takes you. That, too, is the Internet. Now this, my friends, is a man who understands how the Internet works :) Unless, of course, your tastes run that way. And remember, too, that this is a circle-jerk with an audience :)

RG, everything you say is absolutely true about a haggler trying to make what really amounts to a trivial monetary gain for himself from a lady at perhaps a vulnerable moment in time. Thankfully there are many gentleman out there who realise this and have enough class, and respect for the wonderful women we have the privilege of knowing try to defend the cause. I realise that men like you and I hold all of the ladies we know with a great deal of importance for the pleasure of the companionship (even friendship) they bring to our lives. So I understand why you choose to fight so hard against apparent disrespect for our friends and their livelihoods. Sadly, there are those "boys" among us that consider the SP's they visit as nothing more than the next cum shot. I have chosen to stay away from this thread beyond my first post because like you I have very strong feelings on this matter that would in all likelihood get me booted off CERB for expressing my real feelings on this matter. I have to agree with Miss Laurence I think you're wasting your valuable time trying to convert those wayward boys to see the ladies many of whom we consider our friends as something more than an object for their use. At this point you're only helping the one trick pony Craigyboy build up his post count. Let it go RG and send some of your friends a thank you for putting up with the bad ones out there so that we can continue to experience the joy they bring to our lives. Cheers from a surprisingly calm Chuck. As an after thought I decided to add this because there does seem to be a lack of understanding by some of the proponents for Negotiating/Haggling as to why many gentleman and ladies here seem to so vehemently defend our CERB ladies and friends on this issue. You see as a "rule", our Cerb community is one based deeply on respect and a mutual admiration that has built over time. There are many reasons why this has happened however this "Happy Hobbiest" post by Old Dog is a reflection of many of the relationships that have been built here over time. Some relationships going well beyond the physical interaction of clients and SP's to a level of friendship of sorts. If you read this thread you'll get a small glimpse of why some seem to attack you so harshly when it might be seen that you as a negotiator/haggler may not be applying what we deem to be sufficient levels of respect to those we may care about. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=436687&highlight=heart+attack#post436687

God I swore I was done with this but you in fact hit the nail on the head whether you knew it or not, and why I'm opposed to negotiating. Negotiating, well really haggling is for the man (not gentleman) his way of getting something from the lady at less than her rate. Yes maybe he is happy...really f**kin good for him, because it was taking from the lady at her expense. I wonder how she feels during and after the encounter, probably not happy at all. The lady in all likelihood was in a financial situation where she had to accept or maybe run the risk of no income. It is unfortunate but true, many ladies may be in this lifestyle paycheque to paycheque as it were, and the loss of just one encounter may mean unable to pay the rent, put food on the table pay the car payment etc. To me negotiation, well haggling just preys on a lady when she is at her weakest, just so a man can get gratified. Ladies provide a wonderful service, companionship, intimacy, sometimes friendship, and it requires of them to give themselves up body, mind and soul. It has an intangible value exceeding the rate requested. With the bonus of discretion and no strings attached. To haggle her price when she provides such a gift, yes gift, frankly I find offensive I don't expect to change any hagglers minds, but to those who are reading, keep in mind that haggling becomes a zero sum game...that whatever a man gains from haggling, is done at a ladies loss. Instead this lifestyle should be mutually beneficial, for both the lady and gentleman I'm now out RG

Just a post of thanks to the ladies of CERB. Maybe you don't hear it enough, but you provide a very unique and special service, one that does not compare to any other business or service or should be compared to any other business or service. You allow us men an escape, companionship, intimacy and in some cases friendship with no strings attached. You do require a donation, but the value of this escape has an intangible value far exceeding any donation you have asked for. Speaking for myself, you should know you are respected and appreciated And for the escapes and companionship you have provided, thank you RG

RG, as usual you are a man of class and a great example of how clients should view their experiences with the wonderful ladies of CERB. Thanks for taking the lead in expressing the sentiments of a whole group of clients who try to hold themselves to a higher standard for the betterment of everyone in this industry. Ladies, I whole heartedly express my thanks as well. There might be those out there that might roll their eyes and mouth the words "ass kisser", however as I've been fortunate enough in my short time on CERB to lay my lips on some very fine bottoms of you ladies I'll be the first to admit, "I love kissing ass". Stay strong, beautiful, unique and awesome ladies. Kisses from Chuck

Of course the more graphic ads draw attention. Do they get more bookings? I don't know. I am a personal fan of ads that show the type of provider they are. If they enjoy graphic ads that bring in a specific type of clientele, all the more power to them. If the sp enjoys playing with words, and creating a climate that the hobbyist understands her style, then go for that. I think that everyone is unique, and if they are expressing their uniqueness in their ads, that is where everyone wins.

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Honestly I think the fetish porn is the best avenue at this point. Clients there have very specific interests and will send you script ideas. I really only do custom videos now and then post them on clips4sale if they appeal to a larger viewing audience as well. With specific and fetish requests they can't get what they want on free sites as much so you have a niche in that case. It's very hard otherwise to compete with 'free' :) I constantly have fans asking when I'm going to shoot more porn but they are 95% the ones who view it on free sites so they don't hire me for custom. Then I also have the rare client who wants to shoot himself in a video.. that works well for me for an extra fee.

is not acceptable! This isn't a flea market. Take the time to find out what options a lady offers (ie length of time and corresponding donations) and either book with her or continue your search! BTW "can you do x amount of time for x amount of donation?" is akin to negotiating!

I love my toys! Have quite a collection ....which i love to use or have used on me. I'm just wondering what you views are?

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I'm thinking the reason the ads get more clicks is its the provocativeness that draws people in. It's like omg she wants what? Wow she naughty, she must be so horny and wild! What else does she have to say. Since its not everyday a beautiful woman says this. In real life most guys aren't afraid to show they are horny. Although I don't see or hear woman express or show this much. Although these ads may seem to draw more attention I wonder if it draws more actual calls. For me personally I like to please a woman but seeing this ad may add more pressure into can I satisfy her? Also I'm not always into just raw dirty sex I want a sweet sensual time too sometimes so this may turn me off as well thinking she doesn't want this. I must say I really love ready creative ads. I read these ads all the time even when I'm not looking for an encounter. IMO the best ads to attract a client is the ones that give off the a bit on sense of personality. Then again I like to connect with the lady.

I have avoided this thread because this is not the attitude I enjoy buying into however I do want to make one statement and that is some hagglers, while trying to gain a better price for themselves are actually taking advantage of the ladies and their situation. Yes, you ask and then politely state "it's too much" and the lady comes back with "well, how much do you have" however why do you think this might be? This business is dynamic, it ebbs and it flows. Ladies set their rates base don their own set of criteria however like anyone else, they have bills to pay. Unlike a normal work situation, they do not get paid if business is slow. They may need to take a cut rate whether they want to or not because they have bills to pay, children to feed, families to take care of. They may not WANT to but they HAVE to and they may in turn feel like crap that they have had to "give a discount" on their worth. They may then provide great service because they are good people and good businesswomen. This does not mean they enjoyed the process. The men may think they struck gold but at what cost? Discounts in this business are earned by good customers who the lady appreciates. be thankful for this, don't expect it. The main point here is this is a business of PEOPLE, plain and simple. You are haggling the price of a person. Think about that. Whether you want to pay the price asked or not, think about that. If you wouldn't haggle the price of your sister, mother, brother, SO or anyone else close to you, why do you believe an SP does not deserve the same respect? Find someone you like who is charging a price you want unless they specifically say they negotiate. It's so simple yet such a very big issue.

Annoyingly, I couldn't reply directly to this, so here's a picture. I don't care if my views are challenged. I welcome it. But Phaedrus, I do not appreciate words being put into my mouth as you did here. Nntsci's claim on not bargaining for anything under the sky seemed a bit surprising to me. It was not a major consideration to even warrant a post and prolong this thread even further, so I left a rep comment thing. To draw from that and imply that I meant to compare SPs and cars was in poor taste and presumptious. I was about to let it go till I read you doing something similar again here. Again you've taken the words out of context and done a simple 'SP to something else' comparison to prove a point. She could've used anything to make her case; it's the act of politely telling a client once again what the prices are when asked that she was trying to convey. I can't speak for all SPs, but here is one example of someone who doesn't seem to mind that question. To shut her down like that was imho, a bit rude. I'm sorry if this will derail the thread, but I will not have words put into my mouth, especially when it is something offensive like this.

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"I realize that bartering is considered the norm in other cultures and countries but for lack of better words, you're bargining for what is supposed to be an intimate service and this is insulting." I want to preface this by saying that I NEVER try to bargain -- on anything -- it goes against my Anglo-Saxon upbringing. Definitely have never tried that with SPs. With one exception. A couple times I've asked for something special like asking her to wear the skirt in her photos... and tipped for the added feature... That is I am prepared to pay more, but never ask to pay less. But I wanted to point out that intimacy really doesn't have anything to do with the issue of negotiation. In my experience, marital sex is pretty much always a negotiation, LOL. Rings, jewellery, retiling her bathroom (the soaker tub in the ensuite that I never use), cooking dinner, taking her to Nevada, or Paris, etc.. (I'm joking).

Open minded can also mean that they are open to specific kinks and fetishes usually with a non judgmental attitude. They may or may not offer such a service but you can feel comfortable asking about them and not like you'll be lambasted for it. Open to communication. As Meghan said, always be open about sharing your needs and desires as it will guarantee you the experience you're looking for!

re: Haggling. The only time I've seen someone enjoy haggling is on the beaches or in markets of third world countries where people are hawking their wares. The first time I saw it I was uncomfortable.. then I got used to it.. but I never initiate a haggle.. I say no.. but if I look a bit wistful.. they inevitably start the process and I eventually get over my discomfort and a price is set that I can't refuse. Because let's face it.. this issue isn't about negotiation. I think we've clarified that what insults is the haggle. As a brand new unknown client you've got no position with which to negotiate. Even negotiation in the true sense of the word isn't something we look forward to unless like has been well pointed out there's also something to gain for us.. like a retainer client. Now within the sex industry.. haggling is what most of us associate with streetwalkers and pimps.. getting the quickest amount of money in the shortest amount of time for drugs. Not one woman will get herself excited to have you visit with her if you've successfully haggled her to a lower price. In fact most will blacklist you. BUT you who like to haggle won't care about that? You'll just go on to the next girl til you find one who will. That's okay! Doesn't mean because you found your 'gem' who is willing to haggle that it's something now to be admired.. for you not to be ridiculed. You still will be! If you say you can't afford a service and she offers to lower her price.. good for the 2 of you. I don't do that.. and most of the ladies I know don't either.. but hey good for you. Win/win. Believe me when I tell you though.. she would have been much happier if you paid her rate. Is she happy to have your business at all? Are things tough for her? Maybe and probably. It's still a win/win.. so there you go. Isn't that all you really wanted? (I"m speaking to hagglers only). You have the freedom. No-one is saying you don't. Meg was saying it was unacceptable to her. It's unacceptable to the large majority of us. Want that to change? It won't. You will be blacklisted.. the large majority of us find it distasteful, disrespectful and un-arousing. Is it going to educate a haggler not to be one? perhaps.. but doubtful. Most of us want clients who not only pay our rate.. but do so happily. My greatest clients are so grateful for our time spent together that they never bring up my rate even to say 'you're worth every penny'. You've got to remember.. you will always find someone in almost any line of work willing to haggle or negotiate with you if that's what you enjoy. BUT even someone selling a house can be offended by a low-ball offer. Never by a larger one.

I've seen many client early in the morning as early as 5am But only booked in advance the evening before ,Studies show that sex in the morning is more effective than caffeine

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I agree completely! Many people prefer different things. Some may be open to a kink, fetish or style or maybe willing to try new things, all you have to do is ask and be specific.

Generally this refers to those options she is willing to perform. IE, open minded about kissing - she kisses, or open minded about greek, she performs anal. Still remember if there is something specific you crave, ask her if she is open minded about this. Some people use this term, but in fact still have some restrictions.

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I would HAVE to agree with Victoria Catherina. In fact in her case....you won't need coffee after seeing her first thing in the morning. However, you might need to re-hydrate and some help staying upright for a little while :-)

It may be multiple reasons. 1) She may be in vacation and not accessing her emails. 2) If she use gmail (Which seem rather popular) and you use hotmail, live or yahoo, the email may go directly in the spam box. It has happen a multiple time in my case 3) Some SP will not answer inquires emails if not ALL of what she required is in the email, no matter how polite you are. 4) May be lost in the interweb If I were you I would resend an email saying something like Hello xxx, I've emailed you 5 days ago. I was wondering if you receive my previous email, I'd love to be able to meet you !

I have shot a fair bit of porn both here in Canada and in LA. Some of it (like the rest of life) I enjoyed and some I did not. What I mostly dislike about porn that differs from escorting is the extreme lighting that is needed on set.. it gets very very hot and you end up covered in sweat by the time the shoot is over. Also you need to get a good 10-15 min or more sometimes of each position rather than just going with the flow and enjoying yourself. Most partners on set I met 5 minutes before shooting. Most were great to work with... and I met some fantastic people who welcomed me with open arms to the industry before I had 'proven' myself.. so that was a really pleasant aspect. I loved my time in LA.. pornstar karaoke being my favorite weekly venue on a Tues night. Porn doesn't pay well compared to escorting now.. especially with the all the free downloading so I don't keep up with it much. Running my own porn site was way more work than it was worth so I don't do that either anymore. I've seen many sites come and go so other people in the industry have found the same thing but many keep trying. In order to make a living you really have to shoot content that is available new online every single day. The sites that still do well upload new content 3 times or more/day to keep their subscribers happy. I enjoy my escorting business more for that reason alone.. I can relax.. one-on-one or 2-on-one :) in the privacy of my big cool A/C room with my comfy king size bed.

I couldn't agree more with what EvaAdore wrote in both of her posts. Of course, I adore Eva and would agree with anything she says! She's a smart cookie and first-rate provider. These women are giving us something precious, and at great personal risk to them. It's not like seeing a lawyer or an accountant. I must say I've been tempted to question rates, when for example the multi-hour rate is higher per hour than the single hour rate. Doesn't seem to make sense to me (I like long appointments) since it's a more efficient use of an SP's time to spend three hours with me than to have three one-hour appointments, with clean-up and transportation in between. I often think it's just bad math when some of these rate cards are set. But I haven't raised those questions out of respect for the woman. It's her body, and it's her business. And remember, you often get what you pay for. I'd rather have a higher rate with a lower-volume provider than be part of an assembly line approach.

Very much agreed!!! It's his fetish, so let the man enjoy it...no reason to sit here and judge him for it!!! I hope he finds someone who can accommodate him!

Good afternoon, Just wanted to take a moment and say it was great to be back in St. John's. I had a lovely low key visit and look forward to seeing you again in September. Sending sunshine your way, xoxo Emily

Quite frankly, if you have to haggle over 20 dollars, maybe you should consider that you can't afford to see escorts.

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If really are short of funds and want to use a credit card, you could always get a cash advance. This would solve the disputing issue.

I'll second what Gabriella said. EMail money transfer is great. No need for a client to carry a large sum of money with him to the encounter. No need for the lady to carry a large sum of money with her after the encounter For ladies that I know and trust email money transfer is the way to go RG

Mod is absolutely correct. Instead, what you could do is take advantage of electronic money email transfers. It works like a charm too! If you don't know how, have a look at this thread.

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When people ask me who is my service provider. I still always freeze for two seconds before saying Bell.