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I would argue that YMMV does apply in other service industries. And all of them, in fact. I don't think it's any different in the escort industry at all, it just seems that we talk about it so much more, and it's harder for some people to grasp the concept. In the rest of the business world (and the rest of life in general) it's just called common sense. :) As an example, if you are a regular guest at a restaurant and you are friendly, courteous, polite, gracious and tip appropriately, do you think you will get the same quality of service as some random rude prick who treats the server like crap? Simply, no. And if you think about it for a bit, you could apply this to any other industry, if you change the circumstances and situation. Each industry will have it's own set of factors, depending on the type of business, that will make the difference, and I strongly believe that personally, we do indeed have a lot of control of our own outcomes in our various business (and personal) dealings. When dealing with human beings, YMMV always applies. :)

Im sure we can ALL relate to this. Even Men. They seem to leave men out of these campaigns supporting self esteem. Men have heart, brains, and soul too. Only I guess it's less socially acceptable for men to have 'feelings' or 'body image issues'. Either way just wanted to share this link on how self critical people can be on themselves, yet the world sees them differently. ;-) Everyone has SEXY in them ;) Giddy Up!

For me, YMMV never depends on physical attraction. This is probably because I have never cared about looks, to me it is all about attitude. It is impossible for me to have a fun sexy time wt a gy that treats me badly.... and I' sure that is true for he hobbiest as well. My mood plays a part as well - put e in a bad one and chances are you won't be happy either. I've said it time and time again - SPs and those who hobby are first and foremost PEOPLE. We have feelings and emotions and we all deserve to be treated accordingly.

I have always thought that "open minded" meant non-judgmental. So, you could be open in asking about something a little off the conventional, "vanilla" sexual map. It didn't guarantee she'd say yes, but it does mean she wouldn't give you a hard time about the request. Lots of guys have quirks and fetishes and offbeat interests they might be yearning to pursue but nervous to ask about. To me, open-minded means "don't be afraid to ask". I *don't* think open-minded means "willing to renegotiate my stated boundaries", or secretly open to doing something unsafe.

Here is another thread on this for extra value... http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=142785 As has been said, the best way to know what it specifically means to a provider is to ask. In general terms, to me (YMMV) open minded means that you are open to different aspects of sensuality and sexuality AND you are also open to discussing non mentioned aspects in a respectable non-judgmental way. Your discussions are safe and could potentially lead to more based on the specific SP.

Hearing that my little baby is doing good , had her first walk outside-yeah!!!!!

I live in upscale, middle-age suburbia. It's also known as Genericanada. Neighbours are cautiously courteous in as much as we don't intrude on each others quiet enjoyment of the streetscape. We all wave at each other as we take the garbage out but we barely know each other's names. Sick, eh? If someone puts an appliance curbside, outraged people print-off messages & plaster them all over the offending piece of appliance saying this "Neighbourhood is XXX & doesn't allow this sort of thing". I'm serious and I'm ashamed to have lived with such dimbulbs. If the grass grows too long, we have the right to complain to city hall. F**k me, that has happened too. But speaking of grass. My neighbour's boy (who is an occasional visitor due to divorce) was cutting his dad's lawn. He did a good job on his dad's lawn, but he went a step further and did very nice thing (despite the neighbourhood policy of being nasty). He looked at my sorry patch of desert & cut my weeds too. Now, I barely have any opportunity to even say hello to my neighbour, let alone his boy. I know it was his boy who cut my lawn, cuz I saw him outside this afternoon on my neighbour's property. What should I do? I much appreciate the lawn cutting cuz my side was getting thick and shaggy. He seems like a good boy. I haven't had much of an opportunity to talk with the lad. My opinion - His dad is an asshole, but a quiet neighbour. His boy seems like a very considerate lad. How can I show my appreciation?

Although I agree with the majority about what open-minded is (non-judgmental, willing to talk openly, etc.), I also have to agree with what Fortunateone and a few others have expressed. I think the term has been abused by too many and as a result, took away any value it might have had at some point, if any. Yup! It reminds me of the agencies or indies that use the term "no restrictions". No restrictions? Really? Do you know what you are saying and understand the high risks it might potentially involve when read by the wrong people!?! Anyway, that's another topic altogether.

Absolutely! I had a rough day at work today, we were shortstaffed due to "long-weekend-itis" so it was nuts. Stopped in at Sbux on the way home, I go there about twice a week. There's about fifteen people in line, ugh. Plus they are all yuppie types and I'm all grimy...I live in a pretty snobby neighbourhood. Then I see this girl behind the counter who usually serves me, and she waves at me and starts making my "usual", she handed it over the counter to me when there were still five or six people ahead of me waiting to pay. Oh mystery Starbucks girl, you so fine. :chug:

In my experience "open-minded" just like "GFE" means nothing. In this business many ladies will just use the "phrase of the day" in their ad's to catch a potential clients attention. NEVER make any assumptions in this business about what anything written in ad's mean. Always, communicate directly with the lady and express what you desire from your encounter and confirm that what you desire is what she provides and is comfortable with. If you choose to just take ad's at face value you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. Just as an example, a while ago I visited with a lady, last minute, "spur of the moment" and she advertised as both "GFE and open-minded". When I go there she confirmed after we entered the room that, there was no kissing, no anal play, and the service was completely safe. I could live with that so we continued. It was a completely mechanical, detached, zero eye contact session. In fact she even seemed a little put out that I lasted so long and said, "can you just cum already". LOL. Now I know for a fact that I am a fantastic client with a YMMV factor that is very high but in this case although she advertised as both open-minded and GFE I would classify my mileage factor as very low. Perhaps she was just having a bad day who knows. However, I learned that I'll never do "last minute" spur of the moment again. I'll always want to have ample opportunity to chat with the lady and convey to her what I like to experience in my sessions and have her explicitly confirm that she also enjoys all the same things from a session as I do. Communicate, communicate, communicate! FYI, you might be able to tell but I haven't had my morning coffee yet and I'm still a little short on the trigger.

Be aware of what? "Throat cancer is considered to be uncommon and a small percentage of people with HPV develop cancer because of the virus. The finding does not suggest abstaining from oral or vaginal sex." Pretty sensationalist headline for something that we don't really need to worry about don't you think? Ladies, just so you know, for every pussy onesquared doesn't eat, I'm going to eat two! :-D

Many ladies offer incalls out of their homes, and follow safety protocols, so I don't see why they shouldn't do this. I know some women who have happily been doing it for years. As for gentlemen inviting SPs to their home, I have been trusted to do so on many occasions. There have been multiple circumstances: sometimes it's with a gentlemen I have met previously at my incall, so he's built up the trust; sometimes it's with a new client, but we've emailed back and forth significantly, so he's built up the comfort level; and, I've even been invited to someone's home for our very first meeting after our first communication. I delete the address information as soon as I'm gone, so even if I'm invited back, I need the info again. I don't keep my clients personal information (unless I'm asked to, which has happened). And I do of course have a safety call who knows where I am, and when I should leave. Now, I once was invited to a man's home during our first text conversation. He wanted me to go to his home, in the outskirts of Ottawa, for a home-cooked meal. I denied this request. Going to a secluded area, for a meal cooked by a man I'd never met = RED FLAGS. I told him I was happy to join him for dinner if he came to me, and we went to a restaurant. He declined. Which made me feel happy I had said no. When you've been in the business a while, and I'm also assuming when you've been a hobbiest for a while, your gut does a fairly good job of telling you when you should say yes, or when you should say no. Mine hasn't led me astray yet!

This grey wet weather is getting to me and I needed a laugh, post your funny picture to give us all a good laugh, come on:) there are lots of them out there, :) Sent this one out to some of the guys as one of my new titty pics, lol, thought that was funny:)

Disclaimer: I realize that the majority of you are paying for a sexual service and that your needs should be met within the boundaries of the escort in question. That is the service I am providing. However, that being said, I would like to call attention to what I like to refer to as "jack-hammering." This is basically extended penetrative sex and nothing else. You may be convinced that good sex requires only penetration and stamina--as well all know, women want a man who can last (I hope you can sense the sarcasm there), or perhaps it is purely selfish on your part, you do want to get your money's worth after all. So you pound your paid sex partner, over and over, squeezing in every possible available second. In which case, I am not a blow-up doll. I am not an object solely for your use. Keep in mind, I do not think it is a problem, for example, if you would like to simply pay to receive a blowjob, provided you realize the skill and time involved in administering a good blowjob. And I do not think penetrative sex itself is bad. But if you are interested in engaging in a full range of sexual behaviour, please realize that "sex" does not simply equal penetration for as long as humanly possible. After awhile it is painful, un-stimulating and rather boring. If a woman is not turned on, she doesn't create those delicious lubricating fluids that can make penetrative sex so wonderful. So take the time to pay attention to things like kissing and groping and licking and nibbling and so on. If the first thing you're going for is penetration, you have skipped so many amazing, naughty fun things to do to one another. While we are providing a very intimate service, aimed at generating your pleasure and satisfaction, we have emotions, and physical limits. So keep that in mind the next time you're with your favourite lady. Happy pooning!

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Sometimes assholes produce the best kids:) I would show thanks in person and I would give him a small gift, movie tickets, fast food coupon, something. Hearing that someone appreciates you is a great gift as well and may be all that's needed. It is your choice but today not enough people show their gratitude and it can be hard for some to do it while having good intentions so again I say approach him, take the step with or without a gift and tell him that what he did was very nice and much appreciated and ask him if he ever should need something don't hesitate to ask:) You never know this may be a little boy that's never told thanks or that he does good so hearing it from someone just might make his day:) and give him cause to do more selfless acts.

What is there not to absolutely love about Meg!

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Without kissing and cuddling it is more of a cold experience. The intimacy is what a lot of us crave not just the act! Kissing and cuddling is about intimacy to me and makes me feel like the sp cares and wants to spend time with me instead of just doing the act and waiting for the next client.

Funny or what?

I like Emiafish because he obviously has good taste in women, because Midnite-Massage does have very sexy eyes.

Totally depends on the nature of the session. Most of the time I'm after some mutual affection and a sense of connection at least as much as any sexual "release". For these GFE sessions there's lots of gentle intimacy, strokes and cuddles, and laughter -- humour is one of the most important parts of a human connection for me and lets me know I'm comfortable and in a natural shared headspace with my companion. Plus kisses, cuddles, and just curling up and feeling each other breathe. But that said: sometimes I'm after something a bit more purely lustful and irrational, a little darker and fetishy, maybe with some roleplaying that makes the situation purposely artificial. In that case... sometimes that shift in context is part of the point, and affectionate strokes and cuddles would get in the way of that other emotional space you're actually aiming for. It's a matter of: which part of my sexuality wants to come out to play today? What I can tell you is that if I'm after that second kind of encounter, the lady will know in advance so we're both on the same page from the start (!).

Yep, I'm big on keeping that whole area as clean and smooth as possible. My advice: - soak the region well with soap and water during a nice, long shower beforehand - then apply plenty of shaving gel/foam to the "work area", and let it sit there for a few minutes so everything gets nicely moistened and lubricated. It, uh, doesn't hurt to manipulate the whole area and gently rub the foam against the skin to, uh, you know, help the process along. Ahem. - Then use a good, sharp razor for the shaving part. This ensures you don't end up tugging and tearing the coarse hair and stressing your follicles. I hardly need to say: don't rush. Be thorough, and enjoy the process and exploring one of your favourite landscapes up close. - Rinse and then apply moisturizer afterward (for as long and, uh, vigorously as you "need" to...) to the whole shaved area to soothe any stressed skin. That's my routine and it's never given me any problems. If I skip steps (other than the fun ones), I end up with a rash, soreness, or worse. :/

Thats a nice pussy Miquelon!!

Those are great places if a "Massage" (not FS) is what you want. This is posted in the FS section though. Lots of recos here for all the blondes, brunetes, redheads, spinners, curvy and bbws...your preference is likely represented right here on CERB

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Do not bother with BP if you are a newbie -- you are bound to get burned because the pretty pictures will overpower your eyes and dick -- and those pictures are not always what you are going to get. The descriptions are not always truthful, as well. Stay within the warm and comfortable playground that is CERB, young grasshopper. Once you have some hobbying experience, have chatted with some SP and MAs and understand this hobby better, and done your homework by reading all the valuable knowledge that is on CERB, then you might be successful venturing into the shark tank that is BP and not get eaten alive. I speak from experience have started my hobbying with girls advertising on BP and only recently joining CERB, and can tell you that this is where the best-of-the-best can be found.

We have 38 THOUSAND members. 10 confused is not really cause for concern is it.... But we are always looking for suggestions on how to make the site more user friendly but the site is complex and things are the way they are for a reason.

No worries Penny !!! Cover yourself in ketchup and I WILL EAT YOU :) again and again ;) and again....

Thanks for the warm welcome. If only I lived in Ottawa...

I think it is a good idea, and one who's time has come. Everyone seems to get bigger "balls" on the internet when they think they are anonymous. I don't think anyone should have anything to fear with disclosing their real identity to a reputable site such as Huffington. They are not going to de-cloak you. You can still post with a pseudonym, and they are not going to "out" you. But they can shut you down, or if you break the law identify you to authorities. That should give the trolls and trouble makers something to think about before posting.

I concur, Holly Raye is a class act

Discovering THIS website - http://catsandcocks.tumblr.com/?og=1 It's like they're blogging right to me.... amazing

Holly is one of a kind! I have seen her many times and repeat every chance I get!

So, there's a couple of related questions that come up occasionally. If you can't say anything negative on CERB, how do you know who to avoid? And if a SP has no recommendations, or only a few, or nothing recent, what does that mean? And does it mean she's no good? One thing to get out the way immediately: yes, the fact that you can't come out and say someone's no good (unless they're worth a post in the "scams and warnings" section, which is rare) is a limitation. However, the ethos of this board is that we accept that limitation in return for the generally more pleasant atmosphere that results, and consider the exchange worthwhile. There are other boards for those who wish to read the negative stuff, and there are plenty of folks who use them in tandem with this one. But, it must be said, trying to work out who to see - or whether or not to see someone you're considering - is kinda tricky. The point of this post is not to try and provide a solution, because there will be as many solutions as there are readers; the idea is simply to throw some thoughts out there, and hopefully to mention one or two things that the reader may not have considered. Bear in mind that there will also be one or two things (or more) that I haven't considered, so hopefully others will fill in the blanks... and also chip in if they disagree with what I've said. It is undoubtedly true that some ladies have MUCH larger reco threads than others. However, there are a great many reasons for this, and surprisingly few of them have anything to do with how good a time you'll have if you go and see the lady in question. First up: you have to actually LOOK at a reco thread to evaluate it. Some consist only of recos, but others have a lot of cruft. I'm talking about posts along the lines of, "Thanks for the reco!" "How do I contact her?" "Her website's at ..." "Is she still in the business". Officially, these should be pruned out; in practice, that tends not to happen. And that means you, dear reader, have to go and see for yourself how much of a reco thread is genuine recommendations and how much is extraneous fluff. Post-count alone doesn't tell you everything. Second: a great deal depends on how many clients a lady sees. Someone who sees several clients a day will probably have more recos than someone who sees a few clients per week. Someone who focuses on longer appointments will probably see fewer clients than someone who specializes in shorter ones. Third: people leave and re-join this business all the time. A lady who's been inactive for a while will have a blank period when she can't possibly have acquired recos. Fourth: traveling SPs may well have one reco thread in each city they visit, and those threads will necessarily look short compared to those for ladies who stay in one place. Fifth: SPs who are new to the industry tend to pick up reviews more quickly than those who have been around for a while. Sixth, and related to the above: most of us guys will write a reco once, when we first see someone and like her. We don't write another reco for the second visit, or the third. Maybe we'll write another one after several visits, but I think that's quite rare. This means that SPs who are acquiring new clients all the time will garner far more recos than those who rely on happy clients coming back for repeat visits. I suspect that some of the best SPs are almost invisible on the board, both because their clients won't write a reco for the fifty-third visit, and because they have so many repeats that they don't need to actually advertize for new clients. Seventh: a very few ladies are on the "Do Not Review" list, and there are others who prefer not to have reviews or recos written about them. Others ask us to limit what's written ("No gory details, please" is not uncommon) and this may discourage potential reviewers. Eighth: spinners tend to get more recos than BBWs. And yes, I know there's many other body types... but you see what I'm getting at, no? I don't actually know why this is, but I suspect some guys fear schoolyard-level judgement if they own up to liking bigger ladies. Ninth: younger SPs tend to get more recos than older ones. I suspect the reasons may be related to the previous point. Tenth: SPs seem to generally get more recos than MAs, and dancers hardly get any at all. I have no clue why this is. Eleventh: this is rare, but some reco threads have been deleted - ISTR this was something technical related to deleting posts from long-retired members. I can think of one SP who I've written a reco for but you'll never find it, because her old reco thread is gone. You'll have to make do with her new, shorter one. Twelfth: some ladies ask for recommendations during or after (or even before!) a meeting. Different guys may react to this in different ways; I don't actually know what net effect this has on the lady's reco thread. Okay, that's a dozen things, which is enough for now. Doubtless I've forgotten one or two (I'll probably think of another as soon as I post this). In the meantime... I hope that was at least somewhat helpful to those of you trying to navigate the maze of tantalizing options we have available, and I hope that it's given you something to consider when you come across a lady who tickles your fancy but seems not to have too many recommendations compared to some others.

I'm thinking if the Sp has such a strong aversion to intact men, she should state it upfront. I'd be pretty pissed off if I was put in the situation the OP was in. This is not quite a ymmv thing if she has a hard rule about it.

Ditto the comments for Holly and Sonya. Spent 2 hours with Holly. Fantastic lady. Sonya-well she is just mind blowing. Recommend them both. Additional Comments: Yes Zoe is a pro and makes you very comfortable She is slightly BBW and gorgeous with red hair.

Bah ha ha... So true! But we still love them :)

You guys need to wake up and stop outing our identities. Did you ever consider the shit this causes for us. We get preyed on by criminals, pimps and other indies or agencies. This shit prevents us from getting jobs and apartments and shames us out of public places. Give your heads a shake! If we did this to you would you get it then!! you lack discretion big time. how notorious for winnipeg. I speak from experience. You have made this provider very unsafe. Anyone who wastes time out of their day on that hateful, malicious site to read slander that a person can't get removed should get a more positive hobby. That shit gets read by potential employers and landlords and family etc. How would you like being posted on it?!!

If it is against the rules to save a lady's photos, mod should make it so that you cannot right-click and save photos, which you currently CAN do without needing to screenshot. I have seen websites where this is disabled and if you truly want the photo you have to screenshot it...Making the disabling almost useless as I'm sure most people know how to screenshot ANY internet page...And yes, it is possible for someone to print screen while you are on cam and they will have a saved photo of whatever your cam was showing the instant the photo captured the screen. And for the record, a client you "know" also can (and probably would be able to) capture the screenshots of your cam. As for the comment made in regards to having a copyright logo in the bottom corner....Too easy to crop it out! What you need is a banner logo across the center of the image, diagonally. Next to impossible to remove its existence, yet also still possible to mask. If you are worried about photos of yours being shared/taken/stolen whatever you wanna call it, keep them off the internet COMPLETELY, period. NOTHING else will be 100% safe.

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Could be wrong but looks like Madison/Maddy. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=129596&highlight=maddy Cheers,

I absolutely love this commercial!!! I'm very big on helping promote self-esteem and have worked in the past with several campaigns and groups back home in the UK on this and it was a great privilege to do so!!! Also, it is very true that men suffer from self-esteem issues as well. Have had many conversations in chat with male members who lack self-esteem and I hope I was able to help them in any way possible.

Well said! Men have many of the same issues. We just keep it to ourselves most of the time

Self esteem is definitely a problem in society today. Unfortunately it's easier for people to be brought down than it is to be put up. You can have a dozen compliments but that one negative seem to stick out. When I was a kid my mother use to always say very hurtful things like I was worthless, useless, no good and to this day even though I know I'm not those things I do find myself sometimes believing it. The point is when we're young we're easily brought down and can impact the rest of your lives, so I think it important to teach this at a young age. Make people aware of the good in them and leave out any negative. We all have flaws so stop pointing them out and start pointing out the good qualities, cause that is what make you beautiful.

Wow! That's a great video. Very powerful. They should play that in schools. I have nieces in school that suffer from body image and self esteem issues. They're physically attractive and nice kids but still pay more attention to what they perceive as their flaws. Even as adults, too many people derive their self worth from what others think of them, yet don't fully take to heart the compliments they receive. I have a cousin who weighed almost 200 pounds. She lost 65 pounds and gets lots of compliments but says when she looks in the mirror, she still sees herself at 200 pounds. She thinks the compliments are just people trying to be nice and not necessarily sincere. I'm much more comfortable in my own skin now than I was a few years ago, yet I'm still somewhat uncomfortable receiving compliments. It doesn't matter what people say, you have to feel it yourself. Hopefully videos like this will help people feel better about themselves.