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I would argue that YMMV does apply in other service industries. And all of them, in fact. I don't think it's any different in the escort industry at all, it just seems that we talk about it so much more, and it's harder for some people to grasp the concept. In the rest of the business world (and the rest of life in general) it's just called common sense. :) As an example, if you are a regular guest at a restaurant and you are friendly, courteous, polite, gracious and tip appropriately, do you think you will get the same quality of service as some random rude prick who treats the server like crap? Simply, no. And if you think about it for a bit, you could apply this to any other industry, if you change the circumstances and situation. Each industry will have it's own set of factors, depending on the type of business, that will make the difference, and I strongly believe that personally, we do indeed have a lot of control of our own outcomes in our various business (and personal) dealings. When dealing with human beings, YMMV always applies. :)

Im sure we can ALL relate to this. Even Men. They seem to leave men out of these campaigns supporting self esteem. Men have heart, brains, and soul too. Only I guess it's less socially acceptable for men to have 'feelings' or 'body image issues'. Either way just wanted to share this link on how self critical people can be on themselves, yet the world sees them differently. ;-) Everyone has SEXY in them ;) Giddy Up!

For me, YMMV never depends on physical attraction. This is probably because I have never cared about looks, to me it is all about attitude. It is impossible for me to have a fun sexy time wt a gy that treats me badly.... and I' sure that is true for he hobbiest as well. My mood plays a part as well - put e in a bad one and chances are you won't be happy either. I've said it time and time again - SPs and those who hobby are first and foremost PEOPLE. We have feelings and emotions and we all deserve to be treated accordingly.

I have always thought that "open minded" meant non-judgmental. So, you could be open in asking about something a little off the conventional, "vanilla" sexual map. It didn't guarantee she'd say yes, but it does mean she wouldn't give you a hard time about the request. Lots of guys have quirks and fetishes and offbeat interests they might be yearning to pursue but nervous to ask about. To me, open-minded means "don't be afraid to ask". I *don't* think open-minded means "willing to renegotiate my stated boundaries", or secretly open to doing something unsafe.

Here is another thread on this for extra value... http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=142785 As has been said, the best way to know what it specifically means to a provider is to ask. In general terms, to me (YMMV) open minded means that you are open to different aspects of sensuality and sexuality AND you are also open to discussing non mentioned aspects in a respectable non-judgmental way. Your discussions are safe and could potentially lead to more based on the specific SP.

Hearing that my little baby is doing good , had her first walk outside-yeah!!!!!

I live in upscale, middle-age suburbia. It's also known as Genericanada. Neighbours are cautiously courteous in as much as we don't intrude on each others quiet enjoyment of the streetscape. We all wave at each other as we take the garbage out but we barely know each other's names. Sick, eh? If someone puts an appliance curbside, outraged people print-off messages & plaster them all over the offending piece of appliance saying this "Neighbourhood is XXX & doesn't allow this sort of thing". I'm serious and I'm ashamed to have lived with such dimbulbs. If the grass grows too long, we have the right to complain to city hall. F**k me, that has happened too. But speaking of grass. My neighbour's boy (who is an occasional visitor due to divorce) was cutting his dad's lawn. He did a good job on his dad's lawn, but he went a step further and did very nice thing (despite the neighbourhood policy of being nasty). He looked at my sorry patch of desert & cut my weeds too. Now, I barely have any opportunity to even say hello to my neighbour, let alone his boy. I know it was his boy who cut my lawn, cuz I saw him outside this afternoon on my neighbour's property. What should I do? I much appreciate the lawn cutting cuz my side was getting thick and shaggy. He seems like a good boy. I haven't had much of an opportunity to talk with the lad. My opinion - His dad is an asshole, but a quiet neighbour. His boy seems like a very considerate lad. How can I show my appreciation?

Although I agree with the majority about what open-minded is (non-judgmental, willing to talk openly, etc.), I also have to agree with what Fortunateone and a few others have expressed. I think the term has been abused by too many and as a result, took away any value it might have had at some point, if any. Yup! It reminds me of the agencies or indies that use the term "no restrictions". No restrictions? Really? Do you know what you are saying and understand the high risks it might potentially involve when read by the wrong people!?! Anyway, that's another topic altogether.

Absolutely! I had a rough day at work today, we were shortstaffed due to "long-weekend-itis" so it was nuts. Stopped in at Sbux on the way home, I go there about twice a week. There's about fifteen people in line, ugh. Plus they are all yuppie types and I'm all grimy...I live in a pretty snobby neighbourhood. Then I see this girl behind the counter who usually serves me, and she waves at me and starts making my "usual", she handed it over the counter to me when there were still five or six people ahead of me waiting to pay. Oh mystery Starbucks girl, you so fine. :chug:

In my experience "open-minded" just like "GFE" means nothing. In this business many ladies will just use the "phrase of the day" in their ad's to catch a potential clients attention. NEVER make any assumptions in this business about what anything written in ad's mean. Always, communicate directly with the lady and express what you desire from your encounter and confirm that what you desire is what she provides and is comfortable with. If you choose to just take ad's at face value you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. Just as an example, a while ago I visited with a lady, last minute, "spur of the moment" and she advertised as both "GFE and open-minded". When I go there she confirmed after we entered the room that, there was no kissing, no anal play, and the service was completely safe. I could live with that so we continued. It was a completely mechanical, detached, zero eye contact session. In fact she even seemed a little put out that I lasted so long and said, "can you just cum already". LOL. Now I know for a fact that I am a fantastic client with a YMMV factor that is very high but in this case although she advertised as both open-minded and GFE I would classify my mileage factor as very low. Perhaps she was just having a bad day who knows. However, I learned that I'll never do "last minute" spur of the moment again. I'll always want to have ample opportunity to chat with the lady and convey to her what I like to experience in my sessions and have her explicitly confirm that she also enjoys all the same things from a session as I do. Communicate, communicate, communicate! FYI, you might be able to tell but I haven't had my morning coffee yet and I'm still a little short on the trigger.

Be aware of what? "Throat cancer is considered to be uncommon and a small percentage of people with HPV develop cancer because of the virus. The finding does not suggest abstaining from oral or vaginal sex." Pretty sensationalist headline for something that we don't really need to worry about don't you think? Ladies, just so you know, for every pussy onesquared doesn't eat, I'm going to eat two! :-D

Many ladies offer incalls out of their homes, and follow safety protocols, so I don't see why they shouldn't do this. I know some women who have happily been doing it for years. As for gentlemen inviting SPs to their home, I have been trusted to do so on many occasions. There have been multiple circumstances: sometimes it's with a gentlemen I have met previously at my incall, so he's built up the trust; sometimes it's with a new client, but we've emailed back and forth significantly, so he's built up the comfort level; and, I've even been invited to someone's home for our very first meeting after our first communication. I delete the address information as soon as I'm gone, so even if I'm invited back, I need the info again. I don't keep my clients personal information (unless I'm asked to, which has happened). And I do of course have a safety call who knows where I am, and when I should leave. Now, I once was invited to a man's home during our first text conversation. He wanted me to go to his home, in the outskirts of Ottawa, for a home-cooked meal. I denied this request. Going to a secluded area, for a meal cooked by a man I'd never met = RED FLAGS. I told him I was happy to join him for dinner if he came to me, and we went to a restaurant. He declined. Which made me feel happy I had said no. When you've been in the business a while, and I'm also assuming when you've been a hobbiest for a while, your gut does a fairly good job of telling you when you should say yes, or when you should say no. Mine hasn't led me astray yet!

Once in a while you come to realize that so many of our members really don't "get" the whole hobby experience, or rather, they understand that there are rules but believe they are somehow exempt. So let's help them. Let's give some handy tips to make this a more wonderful experience for all. This is a pleasant place so let's keep it constructive... and be aware that the rules shouldn't just be for clients, you can also add some helpful tips that may help a new provider too! Here goes: 1. Appointment time is at 2:00 pm, what time do I arrive? Ummmmm. Hmmmmm. What part of 2:00 pm is ambiguous? A 2 o'clock appointment means you are at her door at 2. Not 1:55, not 2:10. It's seems petty but when you screw up her schedule, you may be screwing up MY schedule. I may be the appointment at 3. I have things to do... and my schedule may not be as loosey goosey as yours. I may be using a very small window of time or I may have "commitments" that see me arriving like clockwork elsewhere. Regardless, when the little hand is at 2 and the big hand is at 12, be where you are supposed to be. 2. "I am awesomely wicked good in bed, and I often masturbate to pictures of myself nude, because I am that good looking. Can we negotiate a better rate?" In a word, No. Would you go to a restaurant and say, "I am a really good eater, can I get a better price on that steak?" Would you go to a lawyer and say, "I am an awesome criminal, can you represent me for free?" Would you go to the dentist and say, "My teeth are so bad that you should fix them all for $50!" A service provider gets paid at a set rate because she is a professional. She is good... no, not just good... wickedly awesome good, at what she does. Your part is the compensation, her part is the wicked awesome part. Pay the pretty lady and be happy. 3. Cleanliness is next to godliness. Ever step into an elevator and stand next to someone who smells like they have never met a bar of soap they liked? Ever met someone that looked like they were an extra in the Walking Dead? Have you ever gone into a bathroom after someone and wondered if they ate something dead? Step one. Go to the potty. Do your business. Wipe. Wipe again. Wipe again. and then, wipe again. Do the optical test. Last wipe. Is there any residue? If yes, start over. If no, then proceed to step two. Step Two. Shower. Clean EVERYWHERE. Rinse. Repeat. Did you pay attention to anywhere in particular??? Hmmm??? Go back to those places. Make em sparkle. (at this point I do suggest that artificial glitter is NOT necessary.) Get out of the shower. Towel dry (for pete's sake use a clean towel!)... apply a generous amount of deodorant/anti-perspirant. Brush your teeth. (if additional grooming is required, please do that too.) Step three. Clothing. Go to the place where you keep your clean clothes. No. Not the place where you put the stuff that you THINK you can wear again. The CLEAN clothes. You know that stuff that you just took from the dryer and folded nicely?? That's the stuff. Wear that shit. Uh oh... what if I have to do step one again?? Then repeat ALL the steps. Cuz skidmarks are not sexy. Febreeze showers are not acceptable. 4. I have to cancel, what do I do? Give your head a smack. With a hammer. Stop. Now take a pointy thing and stick it with great force into your upper thigh, avoiding the artery. Now, go to your car. Start it. Open the door, put your foot beneath a tire and have someone put that car in reverse. Cancellations? NOT COOL. We all know that shit happens. A death in the family. A sick kid. Decapitation with farm machinery. Thermonuclear war. Explosion of your planet from a death star ray. That shit is acceptable.... but you still owe the pretty lady an explanation AND a cancellation fee. When you cancel, providers don't eat. When providers don't eat they get distended bellies and look like kids from the CARE commercials. When you cancel, providers give not only you, but also your city, a bad reputation. This makes you masturbate more. Because you will never get laid again. Ever. You will over develop muscles in only one arm. Your clothes will fit poorly. People will figure it out and suspect you are the notorious masturbating king of cancellations. They will hunt you down and kill your family. Let's keep little Bobby and Joanie safe. If you make an appointment, keep that appointment. Your family will love you for it. 5. "I'm a little short on cash. Do you think she will notice if the envelope is a bit short?" In a word, yes. She will also point out that your penis is a bit short.... and that your skill level is a bit short... and that you cry like a bitch when you have your pathetic little man-gasm. Do you want that??? Do YOU WANT THAT, bitch??? Wow. That was a bit over-emphatic. Gonna step away from the computer and take a valium. BACK!!!! Where were we... yes. Shorting your provider. Not COOL. Remember, providers have special powers. They communicate telepathically. As soon as you walk out that door, she will know and so will all of her allies in the super friends. They will combine their superpowers and make sure that you never get wood again.... and if you do, it will be at inappropriate times... like at funerals or family gatherings or when talking to your grandfather or something like that. Seriously?? Give your head a shake. If you are short then GET the money and make sure you have it set aside BEFORE you book. You will have a wickedly awesome good time... just pay the pretty lady what you agreed to and enjoy! 6. Can I pay her in drugs? Hmmmm. Does your banker take drugs in lieu of money? Have you offered Rogers drugs in return for their cable/home phone/cell phone/internet bundle? When you get groceries at Loblaws, do they have a special drawer that says "financial equivalent in drugs?" You know the answer. "No, you addled-pated simpleton." Remember the distended belly part from above? Providers take cash because cash buys groceries, pays bills and looks pretty. Carrying cash will not get you arrested. Using cash is the engine that runs our capitalist society. "All you need is cash, cash is all you need." The Beatles sang that, I think. Your turn....

Egypt! Since I was young I had this passion with old Egyptian mythology, life,pharaons...one day...

I agree with Chantal, grab a card and write the same sentiments in it that you did here. Let him know that random acts of kindness shows great character and is appreciated. Perhaps a small gift card from Best Buy or Tim's or Starbucks. Cash even! If he is like most kids from a divorce who is aware and considerate; asking his folks for money isn't something he does unless absolutely necessary. Something in his wallet just for him so to speak. It's good to read stories like this... cat

I just wish more people would see with their heart and not their eyes.

Playmates open at 4

Here's how I cook 3 packs of bacon a week... 1) With a sharp knife, trim as much fat from bacon as you can (after buying meatiest (low salt) pack at store. Thick cut preferred. Slice-able slab bacon is good too). 2) Pre-heat oven to 380. 3) Line large cookie tray with tin foil. 4) Lay out bacon strip-by-strip with a little over-lapping. 5) Crack fresh pepper over bacon to taste. I like a decent amount. 6) Put in pre-heated oven and cook for 15 mins before flipping. Use thongs to flip by sliding opened thongs under one side of the bacon, close thongs, and then flip the whole 'cooked-together' piece of bacon over. Whereby it was over-lapped a little, and cooking for 15 mins, it usually sticks together decently well enough to flip it all at once. If not, flip all strips accordingly. 7) Drizzle maple syrup over flipped bacon and spread thinly across all strips with back part of thong (no need to dirty a spoon or whatever - just something else to clean.) Don't leave pools of maple syrup. 8 ) Cook for another 7-15 minutes depending on desired crispiness and stove heating patterns. 9) Line large plate with paper towel. 10) Removed cooked bacon from oven (and turn off stove). 11) Again, most times in one cooked-together piece, remove bacon and put pepper side down on paper towel. 12) Dab top side of bacon with piece of paper towel to remove built-up grease. Maple syrup may be a little sticky, but not bad. 13) Pull cooked fat away from all around the meat of bacon and throw away (ex: strings of fat which holds meat together vs. corners of fat chopped off in step 1. 14) Eat 'fat-free' maple peppered bacon and enjoy with the least amount of fat and guilt possible! Takes about 1 hour to do a pack this way (including .1/2 hr cooking time). (I used to use an iron frying pan, but it was more labourious and dirty (grease splattering everywhere) than the oven method. As well, the strips curled in the pan vs. they stay flat and just shrink-up some in the oven.) Great with maple beans, sammiches, hot dogs and in pancakes, etc! Kids love it, and they aren't gobbling down bacon fat. [PS: With using tin foil, just let the left-over liquid fat coagulate and then fold up and throw-away. Saves a lot of cleaning, with no need to maintain a bacon fat jar, nor pour it down the drain :-) If no holes in the tin foil, there won't be any grease left in the cookie sheet. Sometimes a tiny hole can let a little fat dirty the sheet, but easy to scrub off with hot water and soap. Wash thongs now in prep for next round of bacon ;-) ] :) I Love Bacon! :D ...and Alts ;) hehe

Most clubs will be open but with limited hours. Can't help you with specifics, but I'd be surprised if anywhere would be open for lunch.

Funny or what?

No hugs? WTF No cuddling? Ditto No Kissing? Deal breaker. Did too much of that stuff with pros in Europe years ago before GFE. Now I would rather take care of myself if those are off limits.

As a new comer I have floated around the site. But now I feel at home. What a Sight. Thanks EM and All Keep it up

Those are great places if a "Massage" (not FS) is what you want. This is posted in the FS section though. Lots of recos here for all the blondes, brunetes, redheads, spinners, curvy and bbws...your preference is likely represented right here on CERB

Don't know about the other clubs but Barbs is opening at 5.

Having fun making condom balloons. http://31.media.tumblr.com/507166e970ca9953fd38f7d40c7f329e/tumblr_mf7gj8X0uC1rid001o1_1280.jpg

Do not bother with BP if you are a newbie -- you are bound to get burned because the pretty pictures will overpower your eyes and dick -- and those pictures are not always what you are going to get. The descriptions are not always truthful, as well. Stay within the warm and comfortable playground that is CERB, young grasshopper. Once you have some hobbying experience, have chatted with some SP and MAs and understand this hobby better, and done your homework by reading all the valuable knowledge that is on CERB, then you might be successful venturing into the shark tank that is BP and not get eaten alive. I speak from experience have started my hobbying with girls advertising on BP and only recently joining CERB, and can tell you that this is where the best-of-the-best can be found.

Well said as usual RG.... I am going to ride your coattails on this one. ;)

Open minded can mean many different things in this business. I would recommend getting in contact with the lady and getting some idea as to what may be on the menu. Remember though, just because it is on the menu does not mean it will be offered to you. It is always your millage may vary.

Mine is that moment afterwards where we are lying beside each other catching our breath. I close my eyes and let my senses go into overdrive. I feel her warm soft skin up against mine. With our arms wrapped around each other. It's as if I'm feeding off of her energy. I feel all warm and my mind and thought begin to slow along with my breath. With every exhale she make I can hear and feel, which send a light shiver down my back and begin to get small goosebumps. I can feel a light tinkling feeling inside my head. All my worries and stress melt away as I nothing in the world is greater than this moment. I begin to remember what it feels like to be alive and loved. As the blood flow through my body its almost as if I'm being striped of all the negative stuff and being healed. The power of this intimacy is so strong and soothing I try to savour it for as long as I can.

That is something that can happen, which is part of the reason why some people, both women and men, don't want others touching that area. The fear/embarrassment/queasy, etc. And I totally respect that. I personally like anal, a lot. I've had some of my most intense orgasms that way. But as pointed out above, there always IS a possiblity that something 'unpleasant' may be visible on the condom afterward. Before an anal session, many girls (myself included) do some sort of preparation in order to prevent this from happening - but nothing is 100%. My attitude is, you wanted to fuck my ass, you need to be prepared for that small possibility. If that will gross you out, then it's not an activity we should share. There defintiely have been times when I've been on the giving end of anal play and things are there, but I don't bat an eyelash - I always have tissues and wipes right there, and it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all. The pleasure anal sex can bring to both women and men is way worth the small chance of a mess.

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Ya I agree too. I've seen holly raye and I found her to be great. She is beautiful, very easy to talk to and get along with, not a clock watcher at all, offers great service, and a real professional at what she does. Seems to really enjoy herself. Can't believe someone would have something bad to say about her.

I've only had the best experiences with Holly Raye so I hope he wasn't referring to her.

I have intel on her. If anyone wants it, then PM me.

I do agree that Holly is fantastic. And of course as someone who has seen Emily we know that she is a dream come true :-) Of the local ladies that i've seen i have chosen Lynn to be my gift to myself for my birthday treat tomorrow :-) Happy birthday to me!!!

I love, Love, LOVE kissing cuddling and snuggle time with my guests! It gives each of us time to chat, snuggle and just run our hands all over each others bodies. Lots of heated passionate kisses before and sweet little pecks and smooches after while in each others arms is a perfect encounter for me! As an MA I find it very important to offer a very intimate and personalized in the moment encounter, finding my way there through kissing, and cuddling is all part of the fun :) Kisses! XoX

Bah ha ha... So true! But we still love them :)

You guys need to wake up and stop outing our identities. Did you ever consider the shit this causes for us. We get preyed on by criminals, pimps and other indies or agencies. This shit prevents us from getting jobs and apartments and shames us out of public places. Give your heads a shake! If we did this to you would you get it then!! you lack discretion big time. how notorious for winnipeg. I speak from experience. You have made this provider very unsafe. Anyone who wastes time out of their day on that hateful, malicious site to read slander that a person can't get removed should get a more positive hobby. That shit gets read by potential employers and landlords and family etc. How would you like being posted on it?!!

It is one thing that she's been posted on the dirty.. but is it necessary to "out" her real name here on this board? That's a very very uncool thing to do.

The Fairmont Queen Elizabeth requires a key for the elevator to certain floors. If you decide to meet your date for a drink downstairs be cautioned that there are two bars at the lobby level...you'll want to specify which one you will be in. I was at the St-Martin yesterday and my date met me in the parking lot and we walked in together, the back doors are right by the elevator so no need to pass by the front desk. ;)

We've all met shallow people, those who judge the people around them by the aesthetic beauty on display... and usually we find them distasteful. They fail to see what YOU see in others. The problem is, most of us are incredibly shallow when it comes to our own aesthetic beauty. We focus on the aspects of ourselves that fail ... whether it be dark circles under our eyes, a heavy midsection, a receding hairline or whatever - when WE look at the mirror and see ourselves, we don't concentrate on the fantastic, we micro-analyze the miniscule. The problem with that? We sell ourselves short. A little Old Dog story.... I was a heavy kid. Not morbidly obese, but HEAVY. At the age of 18, something happened within my metabolism and BOOM. I wasn't heavy anymore. Problem was... HEAVY Dog was still in my brain. I sold myself short. I was interested in so many young women but HEAVY Dog said, "you're not worthy. She can do better." I was fit. I was tanned. I was a golden blonde and had all my hair. But still HEAVY Dog ruled. Eventually I became more confident, and became engaged to a beautiful woman... (I didn't know then she was Lucifer's handmaiden) ... but when the word got out that I was getting married, something happened. Women came out of the woodwork. Women that I always felt that were completely out of my league... and all of them in one way or another asked a single question, "Why didn't you ever ask me out?" I was flabbergasted. I had no idea. These were women of my dreams - beautiful, charming, funny and at one time or another extremely available - but I was so sure that I was too hideous to even merit their attention, I was oblivious to the fact that there was indeed, a great deal of attention. The moral of that story? Be happy in who you are. Be happy in how you look. Be confident and charming and witty and beautiful... because somewhere out there, right now, is someone that is thinking about YOU. They don't see your imperfections. They see the beauty that resides in each and every one of us. They see your beauty whether it is on the surface or surrounding you like a glow.

Here's the male version.