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The Following is a reply to a new friend (hobbyist) as a reply to a request for some Info on a couple of well reviewed ladies here and else where.. I think I made a couple good points so I thought I'd send it out to all and LOL I'm even sober tonight!! All names have been removed to protect the guilty especially myself...... Dear new Hobbyist ....Please read on I'll get to your specific questions after the lecture :smile: ... U can find out any thing that I can tell about these two or any other of the ladies on here or any of the other sites by Doing your own research! I say this not to put you off or with any malice; but it is a tried and true statement and any one that has been in this hobby for any length of time will agree. Every one of us is different both hobbyist and SP's we all like different things and different personalities, some times even our own likes and dislikes wants and needs change for a while. That is why so many Reco's or report's are followed with YMMV "Your Mileage May Vary" I can honestly say that the best experiences I have had in this hobby ( that I have been in since 1981) are the ones that I put the time in to do my research and the bad ones are the ones I either jumped in impulsively or on the advise of a hasty Reco by someone else.... In the early days I'd visit the local Strip Club 3 or 4 weeks in a row chat up all the girls before I'd decide which one to "date" (yea back then you could actually take one home :smile: sometimes even before the shift ended) Being new to the hobby my first advice is do a little soul searching and be sure You know what you like and want, then research to find that sort of Lady, Then contact a couple (or more) of them ..your research will let you know the best way to get in touch.. These ladies are all very approachable (or they wouldn't be in the business LOL ) Now to your Original questions. I have seen one of these girls (you know which one) she is fun to be with enjoys her self (with me) YMMV, her services are well documented on her web site she is very safety conscious every thing covered. The other I have emailed with some time ago but have not seen, not for any other reason than the opportunity has never been there.. She is well reviewed here and elsewhere and her services are also well documented on her website ... So now that you are armed with the wisdom of a long time hobbyist ..... Happy Hunting and send an occasional report back from the field for us vets :cool: Loki318

I saw Shay's profile here on cerb this morning and I decide to send her a text message. I ask her if she was availeble to see me this mornig. I made it to her suite downtown. When Shay's open the door I saw the nicest young women. After some chit chat I went on to take a shower. Shay's really easy to talk to she also like to talk. We started with some 69 , she has a nice kitty it smell so good and the taste was fabulous. Everything Shay does is safe. She is very flexible, she did the reverse cowgirl with her shoes on, what a good equilibrium she as. From there we went to doggy style and that was the end of the first round. I will not go into details yes there was a round 2. Thank you Shay you put a smile on my face and I needed one xxxx Carlos:razz: PS she's from out of town here for 20 days

I?m new here and want to say hello and introduce myself properly and share a few good ones with you. I have done many things including Massages, Fetishes, Role-play, Fantasy, Submission and Domination.. As of now I am currently not working. After years of working in the adult field with you and having had the pleasure of meeting all kinds of different faces from all sorts of places near and far, I?ve concluded that it is a small world after all... For example I?m sure every Client and SP (massage girl, escort..) have had their own stories to tell, but, I have a few that I?d like to share that top the Bizarre list BUT? If you have some to add to the Bizarre list, I?d love to hear them. I?m positive the majority of Sp?s have had similar experiences? Such as When you are out shopping in the grocery store and in the same aisle is a ?Regular?, Wife and Kids in toe BUT..Not realizing this until you make eye contact from five feet away.. Of course I smile and continue shopping while I notice the terrorized look in the Clients eyes, the color from his face is drained and his white knuckles clenching the cart in a death grip seconds away from what seems like a total nervous system overload. In a normal head-on head on collision the Client and his ?on the side release? would just walk on and you can hear the sigh of relief from the next ailse over BUT?Not me it?s days like this that I learn more than I want to and my side career has just been life interrupting. My seemingly normal collision went sour when.; I probably wouldn?t have even noticed ?Bob? if his 2 kids didn?t notice me first running down the aisle shouting at the top of their precious lungs my ?Real? name clinging to me with their oh-so-familiar bi-weekly hugs. I recognized his wife first and me having bad eyes, only recognized her by her jacket and the kids. so I kept in the same aisle..Of course since for the last year and a half she has been my Play group Mommy buddy and while the kids play on we gab on about everything. Once I walked over and got within five feet, I knew then what I had just stepped into. That?s when I was introduced to ?Shawn? , the hubby I?ve heard so much about. His terror filled eyes were slightly different from the normal ?Client passing?s? Could it have been because as I wrapped my arms around his babies knowing that I had just wrapped my hands around him just a few hours ago or that I spend 5 hours a week with his wife or was it the icing on the cake when I was introduced as the ?One I?ve been telling you about? and then I was invited for a BBQ??? You?d figure that I would have lost a client. Nope! I started doing happy ending massages as a way to pay for my higher education (little did I know that this world is an education in itself). I thought that it would be a much smaller audience than my first thoughts of stripping BUT..at the end of the day I think I would have been accepted more as a stripper than a miss-understood massage girl. It didn?t take long before I realized that the majority of men know what goes on and where (Like a Sexdar).. Is it just me or do other girls find that when you end up grabbing a cab to work that within a few hours that cab driver shows up at your work and wants everything for sixty bucks? The only major problem I?ve had were 95% cab drivers, and since most places don t let you reject a Client?I?ve learned a heck of a lot more than massages that?s for sure.. Like how to handle these guys, how to run the business without the owner around, Self-restraint and not strangling my co-workers or ?bosses? BUT..Mostly Customer Service and how to deal with a variety of different people and all sorts of situations Such As.. Knowing how to act at the reception for my then Fiancee Father?s funeral at his Uncle and Aunts house. It was a lovely reception at his Uncle and Aunts beautiful home. I kept to myself or gagged with the ?Aunties?. It wasn?t until I was introduced to my future Uncle-In-Law that the reception was promptly ended. My future Uncle-In-Law was also a client, the cheap old cotton-top kind that wants to get their eighty bucks worth any way they can. I really hoped he didn?t recognize me so I lured the dog over and began petting it BUT..That?s when I heard his gasp and noticed the common look of terror in his eyes..He thanked us for coming and showed us to the door ASAP, and even walked us to the end of the driveway to show us where we parked. BUT..Not before his wife invited us to a dinner date and an open invite to drop in anytime..I raised my rates for my future Uncle-In-Law after that. YUP He came back! Like I said, I?m sure everyone has had their own run-ins..Any like mine? Or how about the time I temporarily married a Client for a whole hour? BUT..That?s one for another time. It?s a small world after all..It?s a small world after all It?s a small small world Thanks JuliasUndies

Berlin, I understand the point you are making; however, I would ask is it better to incarcerate a person a small cell for the remainder of their life? Is it any better than death for one's sanity. (And I admit that I am in no way educated enough to answer this myself). I used to share the exact same view. One shouldn't kill period. But if there is sufficient non refuted evidence that someone has done a heinous crime why should they be imprisoned for life and taken care of by the community they wronged. (not a strong enough word, but I can't think of a better one). I suppose I haven't come up with a good explaination for the term punishment. It may be mistaken, but the impression I get is a white collar criminal stealing money can be punished more severly than a rapist or murderer. Something doesn't seemed balanced to me.

For having worked in massage parlors, I've seen these practices in Montreal... Oil is gross anyways... Baby powder with corn starch (Johnson) works even better and even helps skin problems...

When I was 14, I welded some coat hangers together to make a frame for a Hershey Kiss Costume. Only I forgot to leave holes for my arms... Was a real long day with everyone able to take free shots at me...

When you see posts on any site, whether CL or other, report the posts each and every time. CL has a whole section for reporting abuse and harrassment. fwiw, they will remove such posts within an hour or less, but you must report them. abuse @ the name of the site will reach them as well as the online contact report form in the abuse/help/faq section. CL does not allow others to post info without the consent of the one being posted about, so you always use that as the reason for removal. For review forums, the best defense is a good offense. Post threads, without using caps, exclamation points, or hyteria, and state what is happening. That way, if/when something shows up, you have already addressed it and new handles or posters will be treated with suspicion. the board admin should respond quickly to your requests to remove personal info, they do normally anyway, so it should not be difficult to have them be proactive.

We hit the sheets and talk dirty later.lol.