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My experience, here in Ottawa, has been that most providers only offer location during an immediate pre-meeting phone call. Doesn't offer complete discretion but does limit the risk of that being easily and inappropriately shared. At this stage I'll choose not to comment further, (oh yeah, I've got waaay more thoughts on this but they stray too close the edge of lyla rules) so I'll simply post two video links: one from Arlo Guthrie and the other from the Canadian treasure, Willie P. Bennet. I've shared WPB with Greenteal before but the message hasn't been recognized. Willie and I shared harmonicas at the Ottawa Folk festival back in the late 90's (something that doesn't happen these days!) : Anyway two good questions to address. I know where I stand. I do, and always will, stand with my sex worker friends

Have to totally agree. Alot of initiative to bring this board back to what John Hartford described as "the Goodle days" (google it, lol). Lydia's initiative is what's needed to involve new users and share the love! Of course her thoughtful, generous attitude indicates the love be shared among the many wonderful providers and clients here on Lyla! That being said, I see her initiatives, posts and ideas as directing lyla in a positive direction. We all need to step up and support her.

RG I totally agree with your opinion. In the early 60's, whenever we visited my grandparent's house which had a cheese factory about 100 yds (yeah we didn't use m back then!) there would be a nickel, dime, quarter, whichever left on the table downstairs for me. Any coin would provide me with a monstrous bag - 2 lbs. or more - of fresh cheese curds shortly after I awoke at 6 am. That little boy ate alot of cheese curd breakfasts! Heading to my local store now to buy some fresh St. Albert cheese curds. Thanks for the insiration, my friend!

Notch: that is simply what happens when you 'live life one orgasm at a time'! Keep doing that buddy, it works :)

Your post here is an excellent firt step: better advice wlll come from the ladies but following all their screening steps is a very good start. :)

Yeah, I get what you're saying...Fortunately you appear to have the option of only seeing 'licensed' attendants.... I, personally, have no interest in licensing as I'm not convinced it adds any 'security' to my visit. The only way to protect my health is to be frequently tested myself - my responsibility - as for 'priors' (whatever that means) I don't believe that really provides any information - what would being aware of a conviction for street racing 8 years ago (and if it prevenged the lady from getting a license) do to make any positive imrovement to her circumstance as a massage attendant?

as he didn't understand industry workings

Lol: Donald Trump's new campaign slogan!

I selected the term 'Companios' as that is what I had agreed to pay for. Many times, I've let a lady know while chatting with them prior to our 'session' that they could ask me to leave and I would do so happily: chemistry is important and respected. Hasn't happened yet and I hope it doesn't, lol - but I absolutely would comply. I also like the tern 'sex worker' as there's no ambiguity in what's being contracted. I think that clear, consistent communication is respectful and important. Communication: the source and solution to all of our interpersonal problems.

RG: not just a viciously supportive link but a gently supportive one. Much needed. And beyond that you know the difference between you're and your. Kudos

keep the 2 m....

Happy to pay

Was led to these links which provide some additional perspective to this thread - stumbled across them from the massage discussion forum for Manitoba - this stuff happens to me when the Ontario and Ottawa forums are all quiet 😞 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-public-health-order-covid-19-violation-body-rub-parlour-skincare-centre-1.5563662 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-nail-salons-private-club-shut-down-after-operating-in-spite-of-public-health-orders-1.5543039 And yes, Lydia, that Edmonton coucillor needs a rub! I think Greenteal accurately identified his motivations.

Not sure if this was a 'reporting' error on the part of CBC but they referred to one of the ladies interviewed as a "a licensed escort and body rub practitioner." Licensed escort? Curious to know if this is something in Edmonton? Can anyone from Edmonton chime in? Here in Ottawa there are a number of 'licensed spas' and others that aren't but they all still have a storefront and presumably pay taxes - as well as providing a safer work setting. Back in the 'cerb' days there got to be some sort of dispute among the spa managers as the 'licensing' was used in their advertising.... Edmonton is about the same size as Ottawa and I was gobsmacked to read they had 32 licensed establishment cause there for certain aren't that many in Ottawa - certainly different demographics for these cities. An interesting, thoughtful thread. No fear that Joy Smith will be joining it, lol

Yeah I worked there for a year and travelled back 6 years later to ski the Birkebeiner (a ski race - I came in 12th "in the over 70 age category".... unfortunately I was only 28 at the time! lol) and i also skied over the two highest mountains in Norway. If you get a chance to travel there go. It's a truly spectacualar country and amazing people too. Save your pennies first. Anyone who reads these anecdtes and recognizes them will know precisely who I am. Welcome to lyla if you do! On attempting to take a picture of Mark Hamill on a Tauntaun I was identified as a possible spy for 'BattleStar Galactca' which precipitated another whole complicated interaction - I managed to sell myself as someone who only spoke a Norwegian dialect from near Bergen (I had to remove all Canadian flags from my clothing to provide the opportunity to learn Norwegian - they only wished to practice their english on a nateve anglophone!). I was even offered a job as a continuity double for Luke (we're about the same size) but I chose to go skiing - even managed to mess up one of the clips by skiing Into the background of a shot behind StormTroopers in a snowy trench along with my Danixh pal, Mans. Too much fun. I feel so guilty..... NOT!

Mine is Empire Strikes Back ....... because I was on the Ice Planet Hoth for the filming! I ate breakfast sitting next to Luke and Han in the ski hosten at the base of the Hardanger glacier in Finse, Norway (aka the ice planet hoth). There are numerous funny stories surrounding my interactions with the film crew but the shortest one to describe is my puzzlement at seeing these stickers on various pieces of equipment: (context - I hadn't, at the time, seen the 'first' Star Wars and was completely ignorant of the fact that there was movie shoot going on) On the various 'snow cat' tractors (unusual to see those in the Norwegian mountains) was sticker with "The Empire Strikes Back" on it and right underneath was a sticker with the Red Ensign (Union Jack) on it. This made no sense to me as the Norwegian people of very proud and patriotic, with good reason I should add, It was explained to me later that this was the work (and great sense of humour!) of the British film crew on site was in response to the many "Empire Strikes Back" stickers on everything around the film set. Miss those adventures but at least the Force is still with me :) May the Fourth be with you!

Totaly agree. Done the same. While it's possible there may be a long period of anticipation I'll plan to enjoy that too!

Yeah Notch, I agree with Katie - that guy needed to learn a lesson, doesn't seem he was likely smart enough to do that but at least you pointed him in the right direction. Hope you're safe and I believe you probably spared other potential victims from him. We need to stand up in these very trying times.

A good sentiment to acknowledge the provider positively - I agree. My last two get-togethers with providers were the end of February and mid March and I had an awesome time and no ill effects but, being high risk, I'm done for the time being. wrt the antibody testing we don't have any indication that it tells us anything very helpful and I think it's going to involve longtime, slow, careful science before we do. Wish they'f test a Lyso and Clorox cocktail on Pvt. BoneSpurs.

Katherine: shit happens. I'm writing from Ottawa and we haven't met - though I think we've swapped posts here on Lyla (ok, more likely cerb). This has Happened to me and I've simply paid the provider and also paid for our next visit. Many circumstances are beyond our control, certainly for SW's - I believe that we need to hold the time-wasters and no-shows to account. I hope your clent who had to have a delayed visit reads this. You're too generous, but I already knew that.

Yeah Jessica, I'm relying on my close friend, Palmela Handerson, to manage all my needs. That being said, I'm ready to get laid and join you in Jamaica :)

While this doesn't address issues unique to the SW business it does indicate how little is known, so far, with covid-19. I found I had to keep pausing to read the english subtitles but this interview with a top South Korean medical researcher and it outlines a number of the concerns I noted above. This physician/researcher was interview in a previous video by the same young man and his credentials were outlined in that first interview. Here's a current status https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwoNP9QWr4Y

I voted to take time off - we still don't know much about transmission mechanisms for this virus including surfaces, clothing, etc. but it's very clear it can be spread easily. Watched an interview with George Stephanopolous and his wife on youtube: he is completely asymptomatic and his wife was very ill for three weeks and they've both tested positive. Another issue is that there's not testing available yet and a test only tells you whether you infected at the time the swab was taken. We don't yet know whether a person is 'immune' once they've developed antibodies. My underlying health issues push me to this action. That being said, I've already paid for four different visits at a future date so I'm hopeful!

I tend to think of myself as a client. Just like I'm a client of my local garage where I go to get an oil change..... :) I also enjoy developing a 'servcie provider' 'client' relationship so I don't treat it like one of hobbies. And to help convince folks that I only occupy myself with the world's truly great problems, lol, I view the word as 'hobbyist' :) https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?101147-quot-Hobbyist-quot-v-quot-Hobbiest-quot My years fo editing leave me cringing over spelling and grammar.... you know, things like pervasive use of the possessive 'your' when what was meant was you're..... it makes reading something smooth and effortless. Singed, a man with many problems lol

Not his best song but very timely - hell even Lyla is rising from the ashes!