"Best of" threads

[Annessa 22743]

Annessa isn't the sum of all your parts your private life and isn't that what 99.999% of ladies in this business strive to keep away from clients? The reality is that none of us are, or should be, in this expecting to find a bff and in real life religious, political, environmental etc. views are important but maybe irrelevant to adult entertainment choices.

 

As Cato said we need to remember what we are in this for and, for me, a lady's appearance is way more important than her opinion of Harper or Obama so I will continue to look at pictures and use that as part of the decision making process.

 

I agree about the different perspectives on what is best and, assuming they continue, maybe in future the threads could be "IMOAP" (in my opinion aesthetically pleasing).

 

I'm not sure how you arrived at the sum of our parts meaning our private life.?Our mind is definitely no open book to clients and neither is our personal life. I am happy that you will continue to look at photos...no one is saying you shouldn't, in fact quite the opposite. Referencing photos (when the entire album has been looked over) is a great way to form a decision as we've all already said. But I think we can all agree that we base our choices on looking at more than one photo.

 

As for remembering what we are "in this for" I definitely have never lost sight of that. :-)

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

:lol:

 

True but I am sure that they feel the need to express their thoughts here this way because more than probably, they can't express them at home.

You're challenging me to better state my position, and I like that!

 

To be perfectly honest, I don't post my pictures so guys can drool over a collection of ass pictures. I post them for potential clients to get an idea of what I look like and what I'm like! That being said, I do understand they may want to fantasize about my bum/breasts and that is why I do post pictures. But I don't want to be a part of a roster.

 

To make a comparison, when I walk down the street dressed in a nice outfit, I don't expect men to not notice. I am realistic lol and I have no problem with men noticing. But to stare to the point of making me uncomfortable is rude IMO. That is what I meant about thoughts vs actions. I don't want to be the thought police!

[nutty 153]

Thank you for this. The thing that bugs me about this thread is that it's hobbiest after hobbiest defending the threads without appreciating what us ladies are saying. I think that instead of defending' date=' hobbiests should take a step back and listen to what we are saying! Thanks again.[/quote']

 

The converse is also true Megan. Perhaps you should be listening to what your clients are interested in and what we want as opposed to being critical of our indulgences or means by which we enterntain ourselves. The notion of "the client is always right" seems to be lost in your business model, or am I missing something? This is a business to you, right? We are the source of your income, correct? Please correct me if I'm wrong on that point...

 

This is recreation for us clients and it's a very profitable business to the SPs. My suggestion to you is to be less critcal of what form of recreation we seek, indulge in or prefer. If we want to look at or comment on bums or boobs and spend all day oogling at them, so be it. That should be our perogative. Wouldn't this behaviour just serve to promote your business further anyhow?

 

Is it a bit juvenile to be checking out pictures of boobs for hours - perhaps. Is is morally questionable to reduce women to their body parts? A fair assessment. Is it morally questionable to be frequenting the services of escorts (while married or not)? Most would say yes. So can we dispense with the moral high road all the time and get back to what we're here for - recreation? If we chose to be juvenile about it, who are you to question that? You can chose to not read the posts if they bother you so much, but please don't assume you can tell the rest of the community how they should spend their time on CERB.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

You're challenging me to better state my position' date=' and I like that!

 

To be perfectly honest, I don't post my pictures so guys can drool over a collection of ass pictures. I post them for potential clients to get an idea of what I look like and what I'm like! That being said, I do understand they may want to fantasize about my bum/breasts and that is why I do post pictures. But I don't want to be a part of a roster.

 

To make a comparison, when I walk down the street dressed in a nice outfit, I don't expect men to not notice. I am realistic lol and I have no problem with men noticing. But to stare to the point of making me uncomfortable is rude IMO. That is what I meant about thoughts vs actions. I don't want to be the thought police![/quote']

 

Thank you Megan, I knew I could get you to state the point more clearly so that all of the previous posts could possibly now be understood! EXACTLY what the point is in my opinion!

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

The converse is also true Megan. Perhaps you should be listening to what your clients are interested in and what we want as opposed to being critical of our indulgences or means by which we enterntain ourselves.

I'm very interested in what my clients want, in terms of the services I provide. I have sought advice from CERB in the past, such as my new lapdancing endeavour, and I also appreciate open communication from my clients on what they enjoy during a session.

 

I'm also very good at communicating what I enjoy, what I like, and what makes me feel good. Many unselfish clients care about that and appreciate that I engage in open communication.

The notion of "the client is always right" seems to be lost in your business model, or am I missing something?

I don't believe the client is always right. I don't believe any service provider on here would believe her clients are always right.

You can chose to not read the posts if they bother you so much, but please don't assume you can tell the rest of the community how they should spend their time on CERB.

This forum on CERB exists to engage in discussion and that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm not commenting on how hobbiests should spend their time on CERB, but rather I'm commenting on how I like pictures of myself to be used and what makes me feel good. Again I will suggest what Annessa brought up, and that is to ask the lady permission before posting her picture in the thread.

 

I will also note that I find your posts to me to be quite condescending. I started this thread to engage in discussion and it's very possible to do so while still respecting each other.

[Guest s******ecan****]

I'm not commenting on how hobbiests should spend their time on CERB' date=' but rather I'm commenting on how I like pictures of myself to be used and what makes me feel good. Again I will suggest what Annessa brought up, and that is to ask the lady permission before posting her picture in the thread.[/quote']

 

....which seems to suggest you have no objection to the threads per se other than the unauthourized use of your photos in them? In other words it should be a personal choice of other SP's to be or not to be a part of these threads which ceretainly seem to have their fans (25,000 plus views currently).

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

....which seems to suggest you have no objection to the threads per se other than the unauthourized use of your photos in them? In other words it should be a personal choice of other SP's to be or not to be a part of these threads which ceretainly seem to have their fans (25,000 plus views currently).

Absolutely! If hobbiests and providers want to do the threads and the providers approve the use of their pictures, go for it! I have no objection to that whatsoever. We're all adults here.

 

I'm just expressing the way I feel about them and while I think quite a few providers feel the same, not all will and that's fine. I can't tell anyone how to feel about something.

[tiimde71 176]

The converse is also true Megan. Perhaps you should be listening to what your clients are interested in and what we want as opposed to being critical of our indulgences or means by which we enterntain ourselves. The notion of "the client is always right" seems to be lost in your business model, or am I missing something? This is a business to you, right? We are the source of your income, correct? Please correct me if I'm wrong on that point...

 

This is recreation for us clients and it's a very profitable business to the SPs. My suggestion to you is to be less critcal of what form of recreation we seek, indulge in or prefer. If we want to look at or comment on bums or boobs and spend all day oogling at them, so be it. That should be our perogative. Wouldn't this behaviour just serve to promote your business further anyhow?

 

Is it a bit juvenile to be checking out pictures of boobs for hours - perhaps. Is is morally questionable to reduce women to their body parts? A fair assessment. Is it morally questionable to be frequenting the services of escorts (while married or not)? Most would say yes. So can we dispense with the moral high road all the time and get back to what we're here for - recreation? If we chose to be juvenile about it, who are you to question that? You can chose to not read the posts if they bother you so much, but please don't assume you can tell the rest of the community how they should spend their time on CERB.

 

Oh good god man you really need to get some perspective. Before you go off on some tangent of the customer is always right you should remember that every business is a people business. Stephen Covey one of the most respected authors in the business world wrote in his book 7 habits of highly effective people that business dedicated almost half the book to what the ladies are trying to say. Three of his key points are think win/win or no deal, seek first to understand, then to be understood and synergize. So before you start lecturing these ladies on business learn a bit yourself.

 

I get paid more an hour than many of the sp's here and I fire clients who have a know it all I am the client attitude. There are always clients who are more fun to do business with. Ladies you can read into that my meaning.

 

Don't you dare tell these ladies that because of the service they provide and by the way you use that there feelings or Beliefs don't matter. Even the men on your side if the argument have not taken it that far.

 

These ladies know why we are here and provide great service our part of the win win is to treat them with the respect that any woman deserves.

[Chanel Reign 28097]

There is another side to this that has been stated and sightly brushed off. I am not meaning to sound bitchy (me too, no coffee) but (and this is a generalization), what CERB ensures is that these pictures is of the Ladies and are their own property, on their own page.

 

Having them reposted, albeit in the same community, should not happen without the Ladies consent. My opinion of the "Best of's" is irrelevant here. The point is, is that one should be sure that the Lady in question is ok that her images are reposted somewhere other than her page.

 

Peace

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

I get paid more an hour than many of the sp's here and I fire clients who have a know it all I am the client attitude. There are always clients who are more fun to do business with. Ladies you can read into that my meaning.

Thank you for your post.

 

I have no problem in turning down clients if I feel we are not a good fit. If I took on every client who wanted to see me and took the attitude "the client is always right" I would be a very miserable massage provider.

 

I love what I do because I do what I enjoy only, and I seek out the right clients.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

I fire clients who have a know it all I am the client attitude. There are always clients who are more fun to do business with.

 

In my previous "life" I also fired clients without remorse. In this new incarnation, I do the exact same thing! My sanity and happiness are worth way more than anything else!

[PistolPete 61421]

you are very correct in stating that the pictures are property of the ladies.

 

If this is such an issue with some of you ladies, I would think you collectively as a group of ladies should take a vote on this subject,if you feel that it is subjective,and uncomfortable of posting your pictures.

 

Quick question though,will it be next that we should not comment on a photo of the ladies as well, or on their profile page?

 

I like to mention when the photo albums started to appear on here,well before some people's time on here there was no boundary or rules stated about re-posting the photo of a lady.

 

I have posted photo's of ladies in a rec thread (I have done that to give the realistic view of the lady that I met for other gentlemen) I always thought that itself is/was a bonus and a great marketing tool for a lady.

 

Years back we had the Sunshine girl posts, and that dropped off to way side for the actual women that we admirer here on this board.

 

May we fantasize,dream or whatever it always been done in very good taste IMHO.

 

I would say the ball is in the ladies court, if the issue is that your property(photo) cannot be re-posted without consent.

 

 

 

There is another side to this that has been stated and sightly brushed off. I am not meaning to sound bitchy (me too, no coffee) but (and this is a generalization), what CERB ensures is that these pictures is of the Ladies and are their own property, on their own page.

 

Having them reposted, albeit in the same community, should not happen without the Ladies consent. My opinion of the "Best of's" is irrelevant here. The point is, is that one should be sure that the Lady in question is ok that her images are reposted somewhere other than her page.

 

Peace

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Quick question though,will it be next that we should not comment on a photo of the ladies as well, or on their profile page?

I don't know if it's like this for everyone, but I have to approve each comment and posting on my profile page. I like that.

 

I have posted photo's of ladies in a rec thread (I have done that to give the realistic view of the lady that I met for other gentlemen) I always thought that itself is/was a bonus and a great marketing tool for a lady.

According to mod, you have to ask permission first:

 

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=33777

 

I think recommendations and pictures are great marketing tools for the ladies, but I still think it should be up to them. They may not be looking for new clients or they may want to do so in a specific way.

 

Moral of the story: just ask :) I'm sure it'll be appreciated!

[PistolPete 61421]

Of course the lady and I have done that.I think I have been around the block enough to understand, plus I was the one that forwarded that suggestion...thanks :)

 

 

I don't know if it's like this for everyone' date=' but I have to approve each comment and posting on my profile page. I like that.

 

 

According to mod, you have to ask permission first:

 

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=33777

 

I think recommendations and pictures are great marketing tools for the ladies, but I still think it should be up to them. They may not be looking for new clients or they may want to do so in a specific way.

 

Moral of the story: just ask :) I'm sure it'll be appreciated![/quote']

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Of course the lady and I have done that.I think I have been around the block enough to understand, plus I was the one that forwarded that suggestion...thanks :)

Sorry Pete, I think I misinterpreted your post. I thought you were asking if we have to ask permission to post pictures in the "best of" threads, what's next? We have to ask permission to post a picture in the recco thread?

 

Sorry for the misinterpretation!

[Cato 160314]

Having promised to say no more on the issue, I will however add that I find these suggestions very sensible, and would have no trouble renaming the threads, checking before posting etc.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Having promised to say no more on the issue, I will however add that I find these suggestions very sensible, and would have no trouble renaming the threads, checking before posting etc.

I don't want you to stop posting in this thread, Cato! And I'm glad you checked in.

[Chanel Reign 28097]

you are very correct in stating that the pictures are property of the ladies.

 

If this is such an issue with some of you ladies, I would think you collectively as a group of ladies should take a vote on this subject,if you feel that it is subjective,and uncomfortable of posting your pictures.

 

And that may very well happen, now that you've mentioned it.

 

Quick question though,will it be next that we should not comment on a photo of the ladies as well, or on their profile page?

 

Pete, that is a given when the photos are posted. Although I do believe one has the option to not have comments allowed at all. I could be wrong on that one, I forget. And yes, the comments are moderated by myself as well. I decide.

 

I like to mention when the photo albums started to appear on here,well before some people's time on here there was no boundary or rules stated about re-posting the photo of a lady.

 

And that was then and this is now. Was the rule changed for a reason? Was there already a "vote" or complaints? Is this a rehashed thread? I don't know. I'm new here and still learning.

 

I have posted photo's of ladies in a rec thread (I have done that to give the realistic view of the lady that I met for other gentlemen) I always thought that itself is/was a bonus and a great marketing tool for a lady.

 

That is different in that you are recommending someone and not "rating" their body parts.

 

May we fantasize,dream or whatever it always been done in very good taste IMHO.

 

Agreed.

[Guest *o****ea****t]

i love a good debate. can't say who the master-debator is though. so many valid points from both sides. i was flip flopping from one side to the other. speaking only for myself, i don't have the time to check every album that gets posted. i wish i did but the reality is life is busy. i have looked at the "best of" pics which has led me to further explore a ladies profile, album, recos and website. if someone looks at one pic, gets glazed over, forges ahead with the little head in control & is disappointed then he is a fool. chalk it up as a lesson learned & next time do your due diligence.

 

i have read all the posts & probably don't remember every point that was made but what i am getting out of it is this. . . .

 

- i don't think abolishing these threads altogether is the answer. it can (and should) direct traffic to the ladies & it provides some entertainment for the fellas. someone suggested naming these threads "favourite" instead of "best of". sounds like a much better idea to me. i wouldn't consider that a form of ranking. i didn't think "best of" was a form either but wording is important to some & i am good with that. we should be smart enough to realize we all have different tastes. your favourite might not necassarily be mine but in the spirit of good gamesmanship i'd enjoy seeing what revs your engine. if something bothers me then i just won't look.

 

- some ladies are uncomfortable with their photos being used without permission. fair enough. since we have a DNR list we should also have a NUUOP list. No Unauthorized Use Of Photos. i appreciate the fact that not all would want their pics included in a thread but to have to get permission from each lady is crazy. she might get 50 pm's asking to use a pic, does she answer them all, does she answer one & ignore the rest, how long will it take to get an answer, etc.

 

darn!! i think now i've forgotten some other things i wanted to comment on. ah well, if it comes back to me i'll let you know.

 

keep smiling people. . . .the sun is out :-D

[Chanel Reign 28097]

Perhaps the Mod could include this as an option on the ladies page?

[Capital Hunter 18263]

I haven't read all the posts (this damn infuenza is killing me lol), but it seems a real consensus is emerging thanks to contributions from everyone that the best of threads can go on as is (except that may be the title needs asjustsment a bit) except that pictures posted should be authorized by the ladies (absolutely so). It is great to see people with diverse views debate and reach a consensus. My hats off to everyone.

[PistolPete 61421]

Response in blue Chanel..

 

And that may very well happen, now that you've mentioned it.

 

good for you ladies,I like to see the outcome of that

 

 

 

Pete, that is a given when the photos are posted. Although I do believe one has the option to not have comments allowed at all. I could be wrong on that one, I forget. And yes, the comments are moderated by myself as well. I decide.

Yes you keep deciding and are moderated by yourself

 

 

 

And that was then and this is now. Was the rule changed for a reason? Was there already a "vote" or complaints? Is this a rehashed thread? I don't know. I'm new here and still learning.

 

No votes or complaints that I know of just this long winded thread

 

 

That is different in that you are recommending someone and not "rating" their body parts.

 

I don't think there was any numbers in the threads rating body parts, other then a "word" used- "Best of"... but there is numbers in the recommendation section.

 

 

Agreed.

[Chanel Reign 28097]

That is different in that you are recommending someone and not "rating" their body parts.

 

I don't think there was any numbers in the threads rating body parts, other then a "word" used- "Best of"... but there is numbers in the recommendation section.

 

I'm pretty sure quite a few of the Ladies consider The Best of, a rating. Having not visited the reco section but once ....I just found it the other day :roll:, that is where it should be I believe. As I said, for this thread my opinion on this is not relevant, I'm more concerned about whether a Lady would want this happening to them or not under the banner of Best Of.

 

I completely agree and understand the Threads are all in good fun, even though they should be renamed. I think I may even have posted a comment or 2.

 

If a poll or vote should happen, I wont be me initiating it. I will leave that to the better informed women in our community.

[nutty 153]

Megan, my apologies if you feel that I have been condescending. It was not the intent of my post. When I read your post that included

 

I think that instead of defending' date=' hobbiests should take a step back and listen to what we are saying! [/quote']

 

I also took that as you being condescending to us clients. My response likely took on that tone in return, and for that I apologize.

 

That said, the notion of this thread began as essentially a criticism of why we men like "Best of" threads and how the SPs seem to be polar opposites in that regard. It has evolved over the course of the posts to include very positive suggestions with respect to reposting and ownership of pictures on this board. And I fully agree with the suggestions and ideas that have surfaced as part of the discussion, but I also can't help but feel like I'm being chastized for wanting to read and participate in the "best of" threads - case in point:

 

Now I feel terrible. I just said on the Bresty thread that you had the best breasts on cerb. Honestly, Megan, I do not reduce you to body parts. You are a wonderful human being who, who among other things, has gorgeous breasts.

:-D

 

Should we be made to feel bad for this? And make no mistake, this thread has done just that for many clients on here.

 

I get paid more an hour than many of the sp's here and I fire clients who have a know it all I am the client attitude.

 

Wow, what does your salary have to do with anything? Are you trying to sound important and lend some level of authority to your statement by including that little tidbit? If I made more than you, would that lend more credence to my view? Sad...

 

Don't you dare tell these ladies that because of the service they provide and by the way you use that there feelings or Beliefs don't matter. Even the men on your side if the argument have not taken it that far.

 

Nor have I, and if you want to talk about condescending, your post has to take the cake. Either way, their feelings certainly do matter to me, in fact I'll be the first to jump to their defence if someone is trampling on their feelings. All I'm saying is that the door swings both ways. We shouldn't be made to feel bad for the way we want to pursue this hobby either.

 

Nobody here is exploiting these women or making them post or do anything that they aren't ok with. They put their own pictures on this board - freely - and the expectation of privacy of those pictures is out the window at that point. Reuse of those pictures on this board can and is governed by the rules of the board - but if someone decides to steal a pic from here and post it on CL tomorrow as her own, there's no recourse, no expectation of ownership anywhere away from this board.

 

And when I say "the customer is always right", I may have overstepped a bit - obviously a client can't force a SP to do anything that isn't on the menu, and YMMV is a given - so that notion is wrong in many ways. I agree with the win-win business model, but when a client is made to feel bad about the way they are going about their recreation, it can sometimes seems like WIN-win

 

These ladies know why we are here and provide great service our part of the win win is to treat them with the respect that any woman deserves.

 

At least we agree on this part...:roll:

 

And by the way, just because I happen to be one of the lone voices with respect to these topics in the threads, it should in no way reflect that I'm alone in my views. I've been getting multiple PMs (more than I ever expected) from hobbiests that are applauding my points of view including statements like "thanks for TOFTT on this". The majority of them don't want to post in public for fear of reprisal in quality of service... There is a silent majority/minority that is pleased that I'm representing them in these discussions.

[PistolPete 61421]

LOL round and around we go! Chanel!

 

I have a hard time digesting that ladies feel that they are being rated in these threads. But I do concur that if the title needs to be changed in the Best Of threads so be it.

 

If ladies wish to seek permission to use their photo's so be it as well.

 

 

 

 

 

That is different in that you are recommending someone and not "rating" their body parts.

 

I don't think there was any numbers in the threads rating body parts, other then a "word" used- "Best of"... but there is numbers in the recommendation section.

 

I'm pretty sure quite a few of the Ladies consider The Best of, a rating. Having not visited the reco section but once ....I just found it the other day :roll:, that is where it should be I believe. As I said, for this thread my opinion on this is not relevant, I'm more concerned about whether a Lady would want this happening to them or not under the banner of Best Of.

 

I completely agree and understand the Threads are all in good fun, even though they should be renamed. I think I may even have posted a comment or 2.

 

If a poll or vote should happen, I wont be me initiating it. I will leave that to the better informed women in our community.