Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 can be beneficial! What if the person you are contacting is on the other line? Would it hurt to say "hi, it's____, I missed you but I will try again, please don't call me." or "Hey, it's_____, I missed you please call me back before X." I have had a few people complain that I never seem to answer when they call...now they leave messages and we are all happy :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
renegade 11027 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 you mean your voice mail isn,t always full-i thought that was a prerequisate-lol-seriously though being able to leave a message is just great business i wish everyone thought this way !! it makes a difference to me because if i call more than twice and do not get through i will quit trying and call someone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E.D. man 691 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 It would be nice if some people cleared their voice mail box when they have clients coming. Can't leave a message if its full. And if you know your going to be more than 10 minutes late give us a call. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 Since I always keep my voicemail accessible...this never even occured to me :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
renegade 11027 Report post Posted April 6, 2011 thats just one of the reasons you are so well reviewed-you care about your clients !!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amelia Fox 9064 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 I think it's funny when you men can not reach a lady you'd like to meet, then get all SOUR but yet,there is men out there that don't have the courtesy to even call to cancel a meet that they have arranged with a SP. So if your getting a full machine,maybe it's carma lol..(Not every lady has voice mail) Of course this is my own Personal Oponion,hopefully I don't sound snobby,or crude,and no one takes offence to this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted April 7, 2011 No, you are not being snobby or rude. One little pet peeve of mine is when I go to retrieve a voicemail only to find out it was a hang up! Waste of my minutes and of my time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest T**E******s Report post Posted April 7, 2011 No, you are not being snobby or rude. One little pet peeve of mine is when I go to retrieve a voicemail only to find out it was a hang up! Waste of my minutes and of my time! Same here! I got rid of VC for a while, because I just so frustrated with it. I prefer a good ol' fashioned machine with a blinking light, you push the button and can continue doing thing or taking dictation. This wouldn't be good for those who don't have a private area, but would save a lot on minutes and the time YOU waste calling in and pushing buttons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sugarandspice24 100 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 No, you are not being snobby or rude. One little pet peeve of mine is when I go to retrieve a voicemail only to find out it was a hang up! Waste of my minutes and of my time! ditto I hate when you check your mail and its all hang ups or you can hear them putting phone on hold Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
renegade 11027 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I always always leave a message with a way or time to call me back -the whole point to calling is that i do wish to meet that person , and since i,m normally travelling 5 hours plus round trip you must confirm in advance. What i find happens too often is you try calling someone for two or three days and the mailbox is full every day and you send an e-mail that goes unanswered as well, so that tells me its a problem and then you hear back a week later with the sorry my phone was lost my computer broke down my internet is,nt working etc -lol-so now whether its fair or not- full mailboxes and unanswed e-mails tell me they are not the type of person i want to meet and i move on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotchJohnson 214078 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Here is a little something that happen to me and got frustrated once. I arrange a meeting with a lady 1 or 2 days ahead and she says to call her when I get close to her location on that day. The day comes and I travel over one hour away from home and call her at a gas station near her location. She does not answer and her answering machine is full, what do I do? I wait 15 minutes and call back, same story, wait another 15 minutes and now I'm passed my scheduled time and don't want her to get mad at me. I drive all the way back home and write her to tell her what has happened, she says she forgot about our arrangement. All this to say if she would have left a message saying "I will be away until x time on this day, sorry about missing you etc... It would have been better then wasting my time waiting in my car for so long. Just saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I've always asked someone calling a day or week before, to call the day of anytime will do, to confirm and give an ETA. I would also ask to call when ready to head over, and in your case that would be whatever time it is before you leave home or wherever you are starting out from. If you did not reach me, do not assume I am here, available, waiting, etc, and when you do reach me, you are on your way and I'm waiting on you lol. But I really recommend regardless of whatever you think is set in stone, we as sps have had a thousand in stone appts set up with 900 not following thru, so that's where we often start off from when someone calls ahead of time lol. I have lots not follow thru, when the day or time came, but I haven't had many problems with the confirmation before heading out method. Oh, and my messages are always changed, to provide info, such as not available (meaning not near my phone, out for an hour, or the day) and I'm in, call back in 20 or call back in 5. All messages checked within half hour or hour most of the time, returned if it is a reasonable time to call back, and cleared immediately. Someone who doesn't keep up with their voicemail, email, etc etc, sounds like someone who needs to not be working as an independent, or at least getting themselves a big mail box or an assistant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jughead 45 Report post Posted April 9, 2011 The only time I prebooked an appointment.....As per her instruction I left voicemail message all along the way. No help she still got confussed, her normal state I understand, I do not think the last too long. I have no objection to voicemail it is good for leaving a message but then I got to assume that you actuall are checking them, if your not then.......I perfer to talk to the lady in person less chance of confusion and hard feelings on either side. So if I do not call back please do not take offence It is just my second choice answered the phone where as yours went right to voicemail. Sorry it is just the way it goes. I have never had to make more than one phone call to book an appointment, I have been lucky that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted April 9, 2011 Here is a little something that happen to me and got frustrated once. I arrange a meeting with a lady 1 or 2 days ahead and she says to call her when I get close to her location on that day. The day comes and I travel over one hour away from home and call her at a gas station near her location. She does not answer and her answering machine is full, what do I do? I wait 15 minutes and call back, same story, wait another 15 minutes and now I'm passed my scheduled time and don't want her to get mad at me. I drive all the way back home and write her to tell her what has happened, she says she forgot about our arrangement. All this to say if she would have left a message saying "I will be away until x time on this day, sorry about missing you etc... It would have been better then wasting my time waiting in my car for so long. Just saying. For my guests who pre-book a few days ahead, I ask them to confirm with me at least one hour before the appointment or when they are setting out (in the case of travellers) as I have clients who come in from places like Cornwall, Brockville, Renfrew, etc. I set my alarm to remind me to be cognizant of the phone ringing. That way, I know they are on their way and they know I will be here when they arrive. Perhaps if the lady doesn't suggest it, you confirm with her and if she doesn't answer or call you back, then at least you haven't wasted your time travelling over an hour for nothing. Just a suggestion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamanthaEvans 166766 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 From time to time, a lady will get a real winner, who calls 25 times, leaving messages each time, all within a 30 minute period. In other words, don't jump to the conclusion she is too unprofessional to check messages and return calls, it is possible she is being harrassed by someone (not always a would be client, fwiw). I had this very thing happen to me less than two weeks ago. A guy made a dozen obscene calls to my number. Then, when he got my voicemail, it looks like he was doing his best to see if he could fill up my voicemail inbox by calling over and over again from a blocked number, hanging up each time, until the mailbox was full. He did that three times over three days. However, private and blocked numbers aren't as private or blocked as many people assume: my cell provider records the numbers of all callers, blocked, private or not. They were able to confirm that the hang-ups all came from the same number which--amazingly!--was the same as my obscene caller. I reported all of this to my cell phone company and then to the local police. The calls stopped completely, so I'm assuming that someone got through to him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake_1957 1301 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 :bigclap: Good for you Samantha, hopefully this unstable person is now in a local mental institution recieving the medication he requires. We can only hope. I had this very thing happen to me less than two weeks ago. A guy made a dozen obscene calls to my number. Then, when he got my voicemail, it looks like he was doing his best to see if he could fill up my voicemail inbox by calling over and over again from a blocked number, hanging up each time, until the mailbox was full. He did that three times over three days. However, private and blocked numbers aren't as private or blocked as many people assume: my cell provider records the numbers of all callers, blocked, private or not. They were able to confirm that the hang-ups all came from the same number which--amazingly!--was the same as my obscene caller. I reported all of this to my cell phone company and then to the local police. The calls stopped completely, so I'm assuming that someone got through to him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado17 12689 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 can be beneficial! What if the person you are contacting is on the other line? Would it hurt to say "hi, it's____, I missed you but I will try again, please don't call me." or "Hey, it's_____, I missed you please call me back before X." I have had a few people complain that I never seem to answer when they call...now they leave messages and we are all happy :) that's a good idea as long as the voice mail is not full nothing worse than trying to contact someone and there voice mail is full and there not answering Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwertyaccount 15793 Report post Posted April 14, 2011 I'm single so I don't have a problem leaving a voice mail, but isn't that how Tiger Woods got caught with no plausable deniability? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Expensive Tastes 100 Report post Posted April 14, 2011 ditto I hate when you check your mail and its all hang ups or you can hear them putting phone on hold Same here, but I've gotten to hate the phone. I talk on it as little as possible...and cell phones? Nobody talks on them anymore. i saw four guys at the airport all with their cellphones out...all texting, lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamanthaEvans 166766 Report post Posted April 14, 2011 I'm single so I don't have a problem leaving a voice mail, but isn't that how Tiger Woods got caught with no plausable deniability? Why would someone need plausible deniability? If you leave a voice message and give two or three times when the companion could return your call, trust that she'll do that or, if she's not available during those times, she won't call you at any other times. There's no need for your message to be graphic. A simple, "Hello, I'd like to arrange a meeting with you when you're available. You can reach me directly if you return my call on <day> between <time> and <time> or on <day> between <time> and <time>. Thank you." I can't think that there's anything compromising in this, but if you should need to say anything, you can always claim that you must have called a wrong number. If she doesn't call during the times you've offered, assume that she wasn't free to speak to you in private. Try e-mailing her or sending her a PM if she's here at Cerb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 Well, I met a wonderful person today and it was all because he left a message. When he called, I happened to be in the car and was unable to answer. Once I arrived at my destination, I called him back as per his request and we set up a time to meet. It was a great rendez-vous and I thank him so much for taking the time to LEAVE A MESSAGE!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 I'm single so I don't have a problem leaving a voice mail, but isn't that how Tiger Woods got caught with no plausable deniability? Actually I think it was text messages. BTW I delete my texts after an encounter, but hell, what a legend I'd be if my friends knew the ladies I was seeing...but then again I'm seeing the ladies for me, not to impress anyone else, so I'll keep on deleting And I'm a single guy too, only one that could get jealous is my boat LOL RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 I am another escort who frequently hears complaints that I never answer my phone. Up until this week, I still had classes and I'm not about to answer my phone in the middle of class. When I'm at home, I don't carry my cell phone around with me to every part of my apartment, so maybe I was in the shower, or on the landline with my mother. Who knows? The point is, leave me a message and I will call you back. Just the other night, I was on the phone with my mother and my cell starts ringing and I ignore it. This person then went on to phone me 8 times in a row, once a minute. I kid you not. I had to put my mom on hold to answer my cell just to tell this asshat to leave a message. If I didn't answer the first time, I'm BUSY/UNAVAILABLE. What is so hard about leaving a quick message? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 If I don't reply immediately when the phone rings, I can't...either I'm driving and can't pull off the road, or people may be around when the phone rings Like I said, I do prefer a text, but phone call if preferred by the lady, no problems RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gentleman11 10508 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 Voice messages, full mail boxes, auto generated out of the area messages, full mail boxes, unanswered calls, stupid, insensitve repetitive callers are a new reality in my view - and yet,just another minor challenge to deal with in the grand scheme of things in our world. The challenge is to market the SP / hobbyist product in the most effective manner. Hmmmm; CERB;& Escorts - Canada comes to mind, PM's, continued private call blocking and all the other measures I'm sure our experienced SP's are very familiar with. As a hobbyist, I feel badly for the ladies but know that the leadership (& solutions) will prevail, and yes the world's oldest profession will continue to prosper, thankfully. Thank you ladies, you all make my day more often than you know. Musings from a techically challenged, but an eager student.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
