Getting an escort pregnant

[checkingoutpei 100]

This may sound odd but I was thinking about something. If I get an escort pregnant (and tests prove it's mine), what are my legal obligations? This is strickly hypothetical, but I'm curious.

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

Same as if you got a 'civilian' woman pregnant ;)

[roamingguy 300292]

Not a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination, but I would guess, if you got a escort pregnant and she had the baby, you would have to pay support payments. Other issues such as custody and visitation would have to be addressed to.

Remember, child support is about what is doing what's right for the child. The fact that it was an escort that was impregnated and had your baby doesn't mean you are less responsible for your paternal obligations

My humble opinion

RG

[fortunateone 156618]

For some reason I get the impression you have already decided that 'since it's only an escort, then I am not responsible ..."

 

If you get any woman pregnant, and a baby appears, regardless of what she does for work, the laws are the same.

 

I think the only legal way to absolve your sperm from parental responsibility is donating via sperm bank. There must be some kind of release form that protects you from child support claims.

 

 

* The only reason I am replying at all to this is that is seems to be a common fantasy by some that an sp who may accidentally become pregnant. I don't know many sps who don't have a method of birth control, or, should there be a condom mishap, wouldn't automatically go in for a morning after pill to ensure there would be no pregnancy.

 

 

If all of that fails, then why , if such a thing has ever happened, wouldn't she simply get an abortion? And if that didn't happen, how, 9 months later, is she supposed to be able to get ahold of all the clients who may be the father in for DNA testing, and have them cooperate? And after all that, supposedly is going to be able to collect child support from that one, apparently, unlucky guy.

 

 

I ask because there are so many single mothers unable to get their ex-SOs to cough up child support, so how is she going to manage to get a virtual stranger to do it?

[Grizzly Slushie 1487]

.....this thought has occurred to me a few times in the past few years but knew that I would never experience such a life altering change.

 

1) I damn well look out for any cuts or holes on the condoms I use with an SP, either she provides or I do.

 

2) If the topic of whatever "protection" she has going on (IUD, pills, tubes tied etc.) does ease my mind.

 

3) I have low amount of sperm to begin with HA! Sucks for my own future family, but for now I am quite satisfied.

 

But if that event, of a lass coming to me, SP or one night stand or an ex, with a child in her arms. I will be set back, but if the child is mine, yes I have become a Father and missed his/her birth. I will be there for that child forever. If a Man takes no responsibility for ANY of his actions, you are not a Man at all.

[backrubman 64800]

I find the question doesn't really need to be asked as the answer is pretty obvious EXCEPT that said, I think many clients do go to an SP with the expectation that she will have this risk somehow covered for them (birth control and even morning after pill in the event of a condom malfunction) and this is usually the case but at the end of the day there is still a risk of this occurring and it is one reason among many other reasons I always use my real name when booking and show my passport or driver's license to the SP as:

 

I can't imagine that I would make a baby and not want to know about it and I would also want to be very much a part of that child's life and provide all the support I could, well beyond what I was legally required to do.

 

To make a long story short, I once found myself kind of depressed in a 3rd world country at the bar drinking a little too much (and going to be there for some time yet). My associates called me on my cell phone in a panic as the Asian markets were opening, they had a lot of exposure on and didn't know what to do as it wasn't going their way, so I told them well if I wasn't drinking this what I would do but I also wouldn't listen to me right now :) I then went back to my room and collapsed on the bed without even getting undressed after having had too much to drink.

 

The next day I am woke up around noon by the phone in my hotel room ringing, they were very excited because against my advice they had taken my advice and made a lot of money. I think as part joke and also part because they really did care and were grateful (who really ever knows about these things) they told me to go to the lobby as a present would be delivered for me in about 30 minutes.

 

She was the most beautiful girl and the person delivering her was careful to point out that the fee had already been taken care of (and then some) for the next two weeks. Just one very big problem (for me), she was young enough to be my daughter and that's just not for me, so I put her in her own separate room, we became the best of "friends", it stayed totally platonic, we had the most wonderful time and after two weeks or so I had my favorite driver take her home with the offer to drop her off an easy walk from her apartment. But she wouldn't hear of it, I had to meet her baby daughter and the rest of her family who she had been in contact with every day while she was on "assignment".

 

So she has the most beautiful daughter in who is the product of a condom failure during a 30 minute encounter with an Italian tourist. There is no hope of her ever finding him as she never even knew his name; so somewhere out there in the world is a man who has the most beautiful daughter and no idea he even does. To make the story even more gut wrenching, she told me she'd marry me in an instant (as all the men in her country are pigs in her opinion and she'd never met a real gentleman before) and her daughter was not yet old enough to know I that wasn't her real father and never having had any children of my own, well the thought did of course cross my mind, poof, instant family. Her mother was also a very nice and real person and I can't imagine how she wouldn't make a nice mother-in-law. Hmmm, guess I'm still thinking about her offer :)

[billybob 20128]

Sometimes I think people ask questions like this as a joke, a way to get the folks here at cerb riled up. I guess it's a big world and it takes all kinds but the fact that someone thinks getting an escort pregnant is different than getting any other woman pregnant seems outrageous to me.

[backrubman 64800]

Sometimes I think people ask questions like this as a joke, a way to get the folks here at cerb riled up. I guess it's a big world and it takes all kinds but the fact that someone think getting an escort pregnant is different than getting any other women pregnant seems outrageous to me.

 

I agree billybob but aside from the original question, it never hurts to bring it up so that perhaps someone will see this discussion and recognize that this is a real risk they perhaps hadn't reconized or considered (no matter how small and infrequent, it can and does happen). I "try" to look at questions in the most favorable way and I suppose someone could assume that the law has something to say about this and, well it does have much to say about it but makes no distinction nor should it.

 

We have to "judge" and "assume" that the OP wouldn't want to do the right thing to be critical of him or just say "there are no stupid questions".

 

But all that flowery stuff aside, shhh... don't tell anyone but I agree with you.

[Parker 19761]

This may sound odd but I was thinking about something. If I get an escort pregnant (and tests prove it's mine), what are my legal obligations? This is strickly hypothetical, but I'm curious.

 

"legal obligations"...

There's a big difference from them being there are you being forced to follow through with them.

 

I know few clients who would want to take responsibility for this... but I personally know absolutely no escorts who would either a) go through with the pregnancy or b) if for some reason they did go through with it, would want the father to be involved or supporting them in any way.

 

Obviously these types of people could exists, but I've never met or know of any at this point in time.

 

When I think about it, I can't see anyone making a big fuss over it.. A woman in this situation may not care about the stigma or what people say about her, but she will worry about how people treat her child.

Which is why, I'm guessing, you don't really hear about this situation much... other than in hypothetical questions on escort forums.

[Athos 108589]

Well, for me at least I don't worry about getting anyone pregnant. After my SO and I decided we were done having kids I went to see the Doc and got snipped! I've seen the test results and this musketeer is definitely shooting blanks!!

[mrgreen760 37785]

No worries here, have had vasectomy (and yes they can fail) years prior to getting in the game and no f/s......makes me 100% fool proof :)

 

Peace

MG

[Secrets of Victoria 7208]

I can't believe someone actually asked this.

 

It's pretty simple, a child produced = an obligation.

 

All responsible sp's have precautions in place, but there is no fool-proof 100% guarantee that it will never happen.

The only guarantee that it won't happen is not to partake.

 

I have been asked what precautions I utilize and have no problem is saying I use an iud. I also use condoms, but as I said, nothing is fool-proof.

 

If the author of the thread is concerned, or thinks that the onus is strictly on the sp, take a look at the 'family law act', outlines it fairly simply there.

[Kennidikummings 9755]

just out of curiosity, who hypotheticlly thinks of this stuff???? COMMON SENSE would say your ARE obligated to any child regardless of her "occupation". And if you Sleep with an escort unprotected then your even more at fault for lack of common sense and your safety...I would say this hypothetical question might be your guilty conscience asking for advice???

[drlove 37202]

Regardless, I'd say the chances of something like that ever happening are pretty remote at best.

[spud271 47779]

This thread makes me ill! As a human being, and I use that term very loosely, you have a moral obligation to care and protect your children! My son is 20 now, and I would still lay down my life for him!!! His mother and I only dated, we were never married. Not only was there a legal obligation to care for him, how could I not care for my own child!!! I have enough guilt about leaving to go off to war so many times while he was growing up, but I would do anything for him. If you get anyone pregnant, you should be utterly ashamed of yourself if you abandon both the woman in question and your child!

[mickey64 109]

You may be interested in this news story from Australia.

http://www.news.com.au/national/married-man-refuses-to-pay-prostitute-child-support/story-e6frfkvr-1225765009352

[backrubman 64800]

You may be interested in this news story from Australia.

http://www.news.com.au/national/married-man-refuses-to-pay-prostitute-child-support/story-e6frfkvr-1225765009352

 

Doesn't change a thing in my mind, I read the news article you refer to and re-read my post #6 in this thread, nothing changed. Seems even he owned up to it until it became inconvenient or a financial burden. Can't think of a more wonderful financial burden to have or any better purpose for my money and time than to fully support any child I would cause to be brought into this world under any circumstances with every fiber of my existence.

 

If I found out I might be a father, I would gladly want to know if it was so, and take full responsibility for my actions and then some.

 

Interesting the brothel may be liable also though (in this case), thanks for the link.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

Interesting the brothel may be liable also...

 

For clarity's sake, I'll just mention that this potential liability is in regard to the claim that the father was making, based upon Australia's Trade Practices Act:

 

Mr Lilley argued an implied term of the "contract" between clients and sex workers was that women would take measures to avoid pregnancy... The magistrate noted the door might be open for the dad to launch legal action against the owners of the brothel or escort service - or the mother individually - for damages ...

 

In the case in question, the court ordered the father's support payments to be continued on an interim basis. The father's claim under the Trade Practices Act was ruled as being outside of that particular court's mandate, which was only to apply Australia's existing Child Support Scheme in relation to the interim support payments.

 

I haven't found anything on the net to indicate that the father later pursued his argument under the Trade Practices Act regarding the purported professional obligations of the sex worker to avoid pregnancy.

 

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FMCAfam/2009/868.html

[BrawnLasagna 100]

If you get someone pregnant, and they aren't 'supposed' to be pregnant then there are few options, but to fund an abortion really.

[sandimoon 72517]

I am ideologically, politically, militantly pro-choice & even

I don't think the above is an appropriate post.

 

And from this woman's perspective,

any human with a penis can be a sperm donor & create a baby.

However, it takes a MAN to be a father.

World of difference.

Sandi

 

Additional Comments:

Comment: I agree! While the lady may consider this and has every right to the sperm donor has no say.

Very true, but that's Nature's fault. Well Section 7, too.

I have a solution though:

B.Y.O.C.

Bring your own condoms.

Responsibility should precede procreation.

Especially in this hobby. Women too.

On that note, back to the OP.

I'm sorry, but the last thing an SP wants is to get pregnant by a client.

I mean really. Not one bit.

You don't know my real name, I may not know yours,

you may be married, I might be, you could be 30 years older,

or a colossal ass. lol

I also have too much respect for the discretion alone of the gentlemen I meet, much less do something so irresponsible that could up heave their whole world.

Not to mention SELF respect.

Sandi

[SamanthaEvans 166766]

I don't have much to say that hasn't been said already, but I do want to endorse the general principle that if you're concerned that your sperm might somehow find their way to fertilize a woman's egg, you need to prevent that from happening.

 

To have responsible sexual contact one has to accept the fact that no conventional form of birth control works 100% of the time. If the potential risk of condom/birth control pill/IUD/etc. failure is too high, and if you're not willing to accept responsibility for any children that may be conceived unexpectedly, you know what to do: Don't have sex.

[backrubman 64800]

...

I have a solution though: B.Y.O.C. Bring your own condoms. Responsibility should precede procreation.

 

Given that there have been several cases in the news (and courts) of mental defect (I don't know what else to call it) where the man intentionally compromises a condom with a needle hole because be wants to leave as many children in the world as he can, I would think that BYOC would be frowned upon?

[spud271 47779]

Given that there have been several cases in the news (and courts) of mental defect (I don't know what else to call it) where the man intentionally compromises a condom with a needle whole because be wants to leave as many children in the world as he can, I would think that BYOC would be frowned upon?

 

See, that's just messed up! What the hell is wrong with people?

[Parker 19761]

Given that there have been several cases in the news (and courts) of mental defect (I don't know what else to call it) where the man intentionally compromises a condom with a needle whole because be wants to leave as many children in the world as he can, I would think that BYOC would be frowned upon?

 

I agree, though I'm not always worried about a guy messing with the condom... sometimes they're simply not stored properly, (in a wallet or glove box for weeks or months,) which makes them fail/break/tear very easily.

 

They need to be kept in a cool, dry place away from sunlight and the expiry dates should be checked regularly.

 

If a guy insisted on using his own condoms, I'd pass.

[piano8950 32577]

Actually, I was wondering about the BYOC thing as well. I didn't know the protocol of who gets the condoms (SP or me). So I bought a box of condoms the day of, kept the receipt, and did not open the box. It was still sealed. She ended up having a lot of them herself though, so I need not have worried about that.