Sp nichole, apologizing!!

[mrgreen760 37785]

My experience is that lots of pictures used are perhaps innocently a little misleading and in some cases purposely very misleading. And it doesn't seem to matter which site it is. Some pictures used may be of a less recent vintage, some are shot at the most flattering angle possible. Sometimes the age and other stats posted are out by a bit and some times out by a lot. Due diligence has never been more important than it is these days.

 

I don't worry too much about it.....fool me once shame on me.....fool me twice ?....Not going to happen.

 

Peace

MG

[mod 135639]

... to the gentlemen who when they see an ad on EC they know the photo has been verified

 

E.c. Only verifies photos is

(1) the ladies volentarily verify them (or)

(2) we ask them to do this due to complaints

 

An even biggerproblm (common more in winnipeg) is multiple ladies working off the same ad. One of them who actually is the lady in the photos so verification is pointless cause the still send a "substitute" when the actual lady is not available so the agency/group do not loose any business from the call.

 

Thank you all for the comments too. Our company is adjusting localescorts.ca to offer the text classifies (free at this time while we build these features) to compete with bp on that level but this all takes time... I have suggested that ec should be all verified photos and have a feedback system as well. Maybe someday we can implement that.

[BootyLoving 2441]

I haven't read everyone's input. But here is my perspective if it reflect anyone else's

 

EC to me use to be a reliable and trustworthy place. But with a few posters like Nichole and a few others I tried to contact, and EC continuing to allow her to post, it had evaporated my valuation of the reliability in EC. I've not bother looking at EC for a very very long time now. Maybe almost 2 years. In my current mind, If I had to always do my own legwork to confirm reliability of ads. I might as well start searching BP and CL. Which was what happened.

So sadly, I place both at the same level of reliability, one be because EC isn't updated as frequently, and might be out of date, and confidence level has dropped.

 

Nichole has written a very well thought out letter of apology and in and business, that really does count for something, and I respect that a lot. Maybe this could be the restarting point for her and EC.

[explorer69 3513]

I voted no, as many others have been banned from cerb for much more trivial transgressions. They weren't given an opportunity to ask for all the members forgiveness. They had to "suck it up" and bide their time.

Though maybe all bannings should be subject to a members appeal.

[cometman 35115]

Even though the majority of the ladies seem to favor leniency, I voted no for now......temp ban. When bans from here occur, I do not know for what reason, but often, nothing has transpired on the open forum for the general membership to understand. This site and EC are built on the foundation of trust and when that trust is betrayed, there must be a consequence. If she participates here and shows integrity, I am all for reinstatement.

[canuckhooker 19202]

Wow! What a lot of hard-asses. I am generally described as being just to the right of Ghengis Khan in matters of business, and advertising, however, I think that banishment is being unduly harsh in this case. I have no patience or tolerance for B&S, lies etc on ads. However, she was new, didn't know better and appears to have learned her lesson.

 

At best, we let her back in, and she is a model citizen. At worst, she screws up again and her ass gets banned for ever. This has been so public now, most people will be taking anything she says with a grain of salt.

[Phaedrus 209521]

most people will be taking anything she says with a grain of salt.

 

I suspect this may not be the case. Sure, those of us who are here regularly and read the board will know... but there's a lot of people who aren't, or don't.

 

Case in point: how often do we see threads started by a SP who's just had one guy too many who not only hasn't read the "new to this" threads, but is clearly also lacking in either common sense or common courtesy (or both)? It strikes me that a lot of people don't have the patience to do the legwork before they jump in. And even B&S providers who are widely known as such seem to get enough business to survive, at least for a while.

[withpassion 914]

However, she was new, didn't know better and appears to have learned her lesson.

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First, I actually indicated that she be given another, well policed, chance and no mercy if she messes up again.

 

But, I just want to point out the she is not "new" and she did "know better".

 

She was contacted by Cowboy Kenny on the fake pix on more than one occassion and she would take them down for a time and then re post after a while. This is how I got caught. Others told her directly and in person that she is not the girl in the pix.

 

Also, I don't feel her apology was that heart-felt as she is still making excuses for posting fake pix (ie. they just showed outfits I have).

 

But, words are cheap. So, that's why I want give her a chance to speak with actions and if she fails, then show no mercy.

[mod 135639]

At this time 74 people voted YES and 43 voted NO... That is a LOT of people in our community that do not want her back at this time. Majority usually rules but with that many people against her coming back I think my decision will stand that she needs to prove over the next 5/6 months that she is building her reputation. I will advise EC to not turn her account back on at this time but maybe in the future once she re-establishes herself as a honest advertiser and quality provider. (Maybe get a recommendation thread here from some of the members - that would most certainly help her case)

[Jabba 18389]

Prudent approach IMO.

No sooner did she offer her apology on this forum, did I see her advertising on BP with the same old deceptive photos. Sincerity didn't appear to be a priority.

 

I've seen the lady so I know how different her pics were vs reality.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

My original post deleted based on Jabba's comment.

[nichole 653]

Responding to Jabba, why I don't know but I am.

 

You said that I am back at it again and not too long after posting my apology I posted fake pictures again on --------.

 

That could not be further from the truth, you may not think that I am pretty, slim, stylish or anything but I AM.

What I posted on -------- under the heading:

Party - BUSTY BLONDE Slim SEXY SECRETARY submissive student BAD TEACHER --Toys LATEX+ up til 6am - 27

Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:23 PM

are 1000% ME in every picture.

 

Just because you have seen me (when I don't know?) and have looked at the pictures doesn't automatically mean that the pictures are not me. They are and if you have some tangible proof please forward it to me or to the CERB mod otherwise keep your comments to yourself. Negative speculation is not helpful.

 

EC has a verified photo of myself, The Red Zone has never had an issue with me and believe me Monica from TRZ NEVER allows fake photos. I know now the next step is for Recommendations from CERB members so I will await that to happen to further my legitimacy.

 

I have seen numerous regulars and multi-hour new clients in Ottawa, Gatineau, Belleville and Brockville over these past 2 months so hopefully one will write a recommendation.

 

I have never asked anyone to post a recommendation and over these past two months I have just started with CERB I don't even know where to post my info quite yet but I am learning.

 

The Mod said I should prove myself for 5-6 months so that's what I will do. For sure there are no FAKE PICS of me anywhere as I said in my apology. If people don't believe I am who I am well there is not much I can do but continue down the right path and always do my best.

 

Nichole

[mod 135639]

Nicole does have a point, if fake photos were posted somewhere after her apology it would be good to see the photo here -- I DO ASK THAT IF SOMEONE POSTS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DAMAGING IN REGARDS TO FAKE PHOTOS THAT EVIDENCE BE PROVIDED AS WELL -- (and you can always PM it to me for review with a link to the ad if you do not wish to post it in public).

 

I would like to see Nichole here on cerb upload some photos to her album, post a few ads here on cerb and see if the cerb community will welcome her. As I said it will be a uphill battle for her but all hope is not lost of she can prove she has changed her ways.

[Guest **l****uz]

I understand girls trying almost anything to get clients... it's a tough business... honesty & showing guys they can trust you works the best. Hope it works for you.

 

Agreed 100%

[Jabba 18389]

Responding to Jabba, why I don't know but I am.

 

You said that I am back at it again and not too long after posting my apology I posted fake pictures again on --------.

 

That could not be further from the truth, you may not think that I am pretty, slim, stylish or anything but I AM.

What I posted on -------- under the heading:

Party - BUSTY BLONDE Slim SEXY SECRETARY submissive student BAD TEACHER --Toys LATEX+ up til 6am - 27

Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:23 PM

are 1000% ME in every picture.

 

Just because you have seen me (when I don't know?) and have looked at the pictures doesn't automatically mean that the pictures are not me. They are and if you have some tangible proof please forward it to me or to the CERB mod otherwise keep your comments to yourself. Negative speculation is not helpful.

 

EC has a verified photo of myself, The Red Zone has never had an issue with me and believe me Monica from TRZ NEVER allows fake photos. I know now the next step is for Recommendations from CERB members so I will await that to happen to further my legitimacy.

 

I have seen numerous regulars and multi-hour new clients in Ottawa, Gatineau, Belleville and Brockville over these past 2 months so hopefully one will write a recommendation.

 

I have never asked anyone to post a recommendation and over these past two months I have just started with CERB I don't even know where to post my info quite yet but I am learning.

 

The Mod said I should prove myself for 5-6 months so that's what I will do. For sure there are no FAKE PICS of me anywhere as I said in my apology. If people don't believe I am who I am well there is not much I can do but continue down the right path and always do my best.

 

Nichole

 

Interesting.

Please note that I used the word "deceptive" not "fake". I'm not trying to be manipulative here; I chose my words carefully. The photos used in your previous ads were repeated in the post-apology BP ad to which I refer. These are the same pictures for which, I believe, got you suspended from EC (and as a result prompted your apology). Am I mistaken?

 

CK has raised concerns on his site as have reviews on another site. With respect to your photos and performance, you will find my review on you, and from several other customers. If you care to do a search, I'm certain you will find the information about our encounter.

 

I encourage your efforts for sincere, continuous & professional growth. I look forward to seeing recommendations for you on this site.

[mod 135639]

Lots of make-up, lighting and a good photographer can make photos deceptive. This is part of the fantasy however (build anticipation) and I can see why sometimes when you have these wonderful sexy/elegant photos it can cause some disappointments (why really professional photos can sometimes be counterproductive) but we do NOT condone the ladies for using REAL photos that are deceptive... that would not be right, but some feedback in a productive way would be nice.

 

For instance if the lady have all elegant photos for instance and she showed up in track pants, hair rollers and rubber boots (maybe sexy for some?!?) I could see some serious disappointment as the ad and photos should represent how the lady presents herself.... if her photos on the ad were in a elegant dress, makeup and hair done... one would expect that is the way she normally shows up at calls. Anything other would be bad and misleading unless discussed ahead of time.

[nichole 653]

Hello again,

 

I do not want to go back and forth on this issue because it is boring and does nothing to make more people (except for the existing people) come and visit CERB so I will say this once and say nothing about this EVER EVER AGAIN. Mr. Jabba you are mistaken and here is why: I was pulled/suspended from Escorts Canada because they were getting complaints that the photos in my ads were fake. Then I sent my verification photo to EC and then they knew it was not my photos on EC so I told them that I had FAKE PHOTOS on BP so they eventually suspended me and told me that if I repaired my reputation then I could return to EC.

 

Now as I said in my last post here on CERB and in my apology that ONLY SOME OF THE PICTURES on BP were fake IN THE PAST and that I have now ONLY POSTED 1000% true pictures of myself and will only continue to post true pictures of myself.

 

My first step to 1000% true pictures were posted on BP under the heading: Party - BUSTY BLONDE Slim SEXY SECRETARY submissive student BAD TEACHER --Toys LATEX+ up til 6am-- - 27

Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:23 PM

 

SO HOPEFULLY YOU DO GET THAT JABBA, 1000% ME in every picture. Plus every picture on Escorts Canada was 1000% ME.

 

My photos are not overly glamourized but my eyes do have dark makeup which I do not always wear and use that in pictures to try to hide my identity. My photographer said I had great BOOBS which I Do so its just a matter of people who have had a great experience writing a recommendation on CERB.

 

Many have mentioned my BIGGEST FAN "CK" Diary but all I can say to his comments is that I just recently read them and he has cited what has already been said in the past and what I have already apologized for. He sent me texts saying you are on the Diary but I just disregarded them because I thought is was some prank site. If he wrote me an email maybe I would of thought the Diary was something serious. Anyways I know I will never appear on that thing again because I will not use Fake pics.

 

Now Mr. Fredsmith asks why no post on CERB and as I said in my "Concrete Evidence Please!!" post that I am just learning about CERB and it will take time before I post my ad here. I have a tour back in Canada in the summer/fall so I will post around that time.

 

Patience is a virtue and when a client feels inspired to post a recommendation he will I think my last positive recommendation was in the summer of 2011 so not all hope is lost someone obviously thinks I am cute.

 

I have recently read past comments and really hobbyists WHAT WAS THE POINT in writing a negative review through a PM or on some other review board. Why not just send the girl a note/text after the session saying your peace. If more people would of sent me these comments to my email which is posted everywhere my phone number is posted than it wouldn't have taken from late June 2011 when I first posted on EC to October 21, 2012 to have something done. And Mr. CK it is not nice that every time a topic was started on me on any review board that you said go read your comments on The Diary and never said reach out to NICHOLE. All this sneaky chit chat behind my back but NEVER A NEGATIVE WORD TO MY FACE or in my inbox.

 

I really never knew what people felt and they couldn't have felt that bad if I continued & continue to get multi-hour bookings while frequently returning to many cities. I mean if the guy doesn't want to be rude he books half hour or an hour at the most. Please don't tell me that he books 3-5 hours to avoid being rude. That's why I think some of these comments are band wagon jumpers who wish this and wish that but never say a thing and possibly secretly return to see the girl.

 

In future if its me or someone else, please hobbyist just send a note of displeasure to that girl and then maybe you and she can work it out.

 

Nichole

[piano8950 32577]

Alright, I haven't said anything here before because there was nothing I could add except my vote. Since the topic of "deceptive" pictures, and talk of makeup and lighting has come up, I thought I can share some light on the matter.

 

Just a heads up, I don't have a stake in whatever the outcome is, but I did find some of what was said above to be a bit concerning. Regarding getting pictures taken by a photographer, there are extents that he/she goes whenever taking boudoir sort of pictures. With some clients, most who are normal people, I take liberties with accentuating their qualities and masking parts that they aren't too comfortable with.

 

So if my client has great breasts, but on the larger side of things, I usually ask her to lie on her back. If a guy has a double chin like yours truly, I always shot from his eye level or higher in a fashion that he looks down on me, provides for a subconscious appearance of domination. Little tricks like that make more difference then you'd imagine.

 

And then there is lighting. Photographers rarely point their flash straight forward because in real life, your eye balls are not light sources. We like using light sources from the side and top (some like lower, I hate it). Sometimes you notice the golden glow as if you can feel the sun rising through the window. All of that is done to literally put someone in the best possible light.

 

 

Now for clients, I start doing other things. By enhancing the size of the eyes for a 45 year old woman, it often has the effect of erasing 5 years. By clearing the bags underneath her eyes, beyond the makeup that is, there is a drastic difference in appearance. Wrinkle lines, double chins, etc.

 

Just to give you an idea:

 

Here is a breast enhancement

 

Here is an example of skin softening and massive airbrushing

 

And just to show it's not limited to females, here is the British Prime Minister David Cameron

 

 

 

My point with all of this is that from Nichole's pictures, I don't see evidence of any drastic alterations. I could be wrong, the photographer might be very good. But judging on the lighting, the poses, I don't see anything that differentiates this set of images from many others I've seen here.

 

I'm not sure what happened before any of this mess started. But it seems rather simple to figure out. Anyway, fwiw, that's how some pictures are taken in a nutshell. I do hope this gets resolved one way or the other. I don't take lightly to warrant-less accusations or being duped. And it seems one is happening right now.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

Nichole, thanks for your spirited response. Just to clarify, I never texted you, I don't text scammers. However I have sent emails to your ads in the past with no response. I have responded to threads on boards where your ads with fake photos have been featured. It's never been sneaky chit chat, the forums are open to you and you're welcome to join in, my email is clearly posted at the top of my website.

 

I'm not sure why you think I need to reach out to you or anyone else to advise them that it is clearly wrong and deceptive to post photos of people other than yourself in your ads. You'll find that most providers get that basic concept. Similarly you could have reached out to me it's not like I'm a hard guy to get a hold of.

 

You are correct, time will tell and I'm eager to hear from your happy clients, sadly I've only heard from those who were not so happy. Kuddos to you for trying to turn things around. I think it might go a long way in your favor to post some photos here sooner, rather than later , given that photos are at the stem of this whole controversy. If the whole exercise here is to rebuild your reputation, then a few pictures will speak a few thousand words.

 

I'm not expecting you to answer, as you stated you are done discussing this matter, and so am I. I'm simply responding as you've addressed specific points regarding me in your retort and I'm providing my input.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I am the type of person who likes to think there is good in almost everyone and would say give Nichole a second chance.

 

From one provider to another, reputation and integrity are two of the utmost important traits/qualities to have in this business. Especially if you're trying to create a name for yourself. While many have accepted your apology here, now is the time to put your words into actions and move forward.

 

This is a great community here and I believe you could benefit from it to grow as an SP.

 

I wish you nothing but the best of luck. :)

[Peter Smith 808]

I say give her another chance. Hopefully she has learned a lesson. Take it from me we all make mistakes. If she screws up again then you hit her hard.

[v20492 150]

Very brave and honest to come clean the way you have done Nicole.

Hopefully others learn from your example.

Best of luck

 

Veater

[sprinter29 120]

I have seen worst people turned into the best, so why not give her another chance. Good luck Nicole :)

[tbaymike 130]

I believe that if no blatant wrongdoing is present, we must give her another chance. Benefit of the doubt and so on. Apology accepted Nichole. Peace all. xo.

[Tonka 110]

Excellent thread. I am torn between "second chance" and "once a cheat, always a cheat" (I would know). So good luck Nicole.