"White Gentlemen Only"

[cat 262460]

I agree there can be many non racist reasons why a provider excludes certain groups but "White Only" doesn't leave a lot for interpretation. Of course that is just my opinion.

 

Actually, it does. When I singled out East/West Indian it effectively eliminated Indian, Black and Asian. All three of these races populate the West Indies so it was easier to say whites only rather than outline who I wouldn't see...

 

cat

[roamingguy 300291]

I agree there can be many non racist reasons why a provider excludes certain groups but "White Only" doesn't leave a lot for interpretation. Of course that is just my opinion.

 

When this SP posted "White Gentlemen Only" in her ad she doesn't want or need an interpretation. She just clearly and simply states who she will see, so there is no need for interpetation

RG

[WriteOn 3250]

Actually, it does. When I singled out East/West Indian it effectively eliminated Indian, Black and Asian. All three of these races populate the West Indies so it was easier to say whites only rather than outline who I wouldn't see...

 

It doesn't matter what reason you have for excluding clients, it's your right. Maybe the SP had a similar reason to you and maybe she's white and is most comfortable with her own race.

 

It's my opinion that more often that not the reasons are not as unique as yours.

[Canadiansnowland 740]

As consumers we have the right to choose where we spend our money for shopping, eating , etc... Some people may shop at Superstore while others may go to Sobeys. Now, for all the times I have walked into any one of these stores, I have never noticed a sign that said "White People Only". Now the only thing that makes the situation with this SP any different is the fact that nobody would dare report the situation to the authorities. Don't try to down play it, it's racism. Plain and simple, racism.

[Jabba 18389]

As consumers we have the right to choose where we spend our money for shopping, eating , etc... Some people may shop at Superstore while others may go to Sobeys. Now, for all the times I have walked into any one of these stores, I have never noticed a sign that said "White People Only". Now the only thing that makes the situation with this SP any different is the fact that nobody would dare report the situation to the authorities. Don't try to down play it, it's racism. Plain and simple, racism.

 

Just cuz the SP is advertising a service doesn't mean they're legally obliged to open their legs to everyone that walks in off the street. This is a business & therefore SPs have business principles regardless if we agree with them or not. Rather than being discriminatory, I prefer to call it "Selective Selling". :icon_wink:

[Hector17 9215]

Don't try to down play it, it's racism. Plain and simple, racism.

 

I dont see the big deal here, as do many others.

I make my picks based on my preferences, and why shouldn't the ladies have the prerogative to select their clientele.

If excluding a type of client helps in their screening process in the early stages, then where is the harm?

 

Getting groceries is hardly a personal and intimate activity... a useless comparison.

 

Cat made several excellent points and reasons why an SP might exclude a race....

 

So...No....it's not just racism, not plain to me, and not simple...it just may not be racism at all

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

This reminds me of a time I had a call from someone who sounded obviously immature. He was turning 18 and wanted a "hooker" for his birthday. I informed him that I have a minimum age and sorry, I could not see him. He stammered and stuttered and got quite angry at me. I politely declined to see him.

 

5 minutes later his "father" called me. Claiming he knew a lawyer, and that I was discriminating on the basis of age. I explained to Dad, that I have a right to see who I choose - end of discussion. Call your lawyer, but my lawyer will tell your lawyer that there is no discrimination here, just preferences.

 

Dad then decided he wanted to see a "whore" (his words) and when could I be available. Well, of course, the Irish came out in me, and I politely told him that I don't see men over the age of 30, so therefore I could not see him either.

 

The silence that followed was truly priceless.

 

Some people just don't seem to understand that as escorts (or whatever term you want to call us), we have the right to choose who we see and do not have to explain why we decline to see some people.

[roamingguy 300291]

As consumers we have the right to choose where we spend our money for shopping, eating , etc... Some people may shop at Superstore while others may go to Sobeys. Now, for all the times I have walked into any one of these stores, I have never noticed a sign that said "White People Only". Now the only thing that makes the situation with this SP any different is the fact that nobody would dare report the situation to the authorities. Don't try to down play it, it's racism. Plain and simple, racism.

 

It may be racism

But there are other possibilities too as previously mentioned in other posts.

But even if racism, a lady still has the right to have sex, or not have sex with whomever she chooses...it is her body not anyone else's. She cannot and should not be pressured, forced, coerced into having sex with someone she doesn't want too, even if her reasons are perceived to be wrong reasons by others. Forcing her, that is almost akin to sexual assault.

And if a gentleman chooses to see white only companions, does that make him racist? I guess guys have an advantage here, they can keep such preferences if they have them a secret.

Finally, which is better of the two. The lady announcing publically white gentleman only to avoid a potential conflict, or not announcing it, but if a non white gentleman shows up for an encounter, she refuses to see him

RG

[Canadiansnowland 740]

We are talking about consumers and businesses. It has nothing to do with sex. Being a SP is a business (and yes, it is a business) and the SP is refusing to provide service based on race. It is no different than a hairstylist or stylist shop refusing to provide service to people from the middle east. None of the other reasons matter or hold any real value, it's racism.

[Hector17 9215]

We are talking about consumers and businesses. It has nothing to do with sex. Being a SP is a business (and yes, it is a business) and the SP is refusing to provide service based on race. It is no different than a hairstylist or stylist shop refusing to provide service to people from the middle east. None of the other reasons matter or hold any real value, it's racism.

 

 

WAY different !!

 

 

Cat and many others have made good points

 

As well RG has pointed out that...so what, if it is racism...?

[roamingguy 300291]

We are talking about consumers and businesses. It has nothing to do with sex. Being a SP is a business (and yes, it is a business) and the SP is refusing to provide service based on race. It is no different than a hairstylist or stylist shop refusing to provide service to people from the middle east. None of the other reasons matter or hold any real value, it's racism.

 

Except this business is unlike any other business, and yes it is about sex.

It isn't about going to Sobeys, the Superstore or going to a hairstylist. Encounters are of a most intimate nature, sex being a part of that intimacy

I do agree with you in one respect, in most likelihood I do think the post white gentlemen only is her racial bias. But even that said, she should not be pressured and coerced into being intimate with someone she doesn't want to see. And irrespective of being a business, it is also her body, no one else's. And only she can decide who she will have sex with.

RG

[voodoo999 332]

it's good to see there are still people out there who don't just jump right on the witch hunt band wagon. most times the very hint of racism causes people to just lose their minds!

the escorting business cannot be compared to a grocery store. a grocery store is a necessity...people must eat or they will die. you going to die if you dont get to spend an hour with one specific female? i doubt it.

[cinelli 22184]

Some people may shop at Superstore while others may go to Sobeys. Now, for all the times I have walked into any one of these stores, I have never noticed a sign that said "White People Only".

 

Big difference between being a cashier and being an SP.

[WriteOn 3250]

I agree with a lot that has been said here but I would like to point out one thing that I find very interesting.

 

Is denying a service based on race different than being a store owner and having a sign on the door "Whites Only"? Honestly I don't think so. Is offering sexual services very different? Yes it is. But how is it less racist to deny a service or selling a product based on race?

 

Does the SP have the right to offer her services based on race? Well, does the store owner? Let's say they legalize Prostitution, would it be legal then?

 

How about a RMT, can he or she advertise "White Only"?

[bowser11 844]

Haven't read an interesting thread like this in a while. If sexy black SP's make my dick hard, is the little fella racist? Or does he just remember the best blowjob he ever had?

[roamingguy 300291]

I agree with a lot that has been said here but I would like to point out one thing that I find very interesting.

 

Is denying a service based on race different than being a store owner and having a sign on the door "Whites Only"? Honestly I don't think so. Is offering sexual services very different? Yes it is. But how is it less racist to deny a service or selling a product based on race?

 

Does the SP have the right to offer her services based on race? Well, does the store owner? Let's say they legalize Prostitution, would it be legal then?

 

How about a RMT, can he or she advertise "White Only"?

 

First it may be very much racist. And if racist just as racist as a store owner having a sign on the door saying whites only

But the posts in this thread have also suggested that an SP may have other reasons to restrict her clientele to white gentlemen only.

But if her reasons are racist, then they aren't less racist, they are pure and simple racist

Second, prostitution is legal in Canada

Third a lady can offer her services to whoever she chooses to. There is no law I am aware of that would force a lady to see any man who plucks down the required amount of money

While offence is being taken to a lady restricting herself to white gentlemen only, no one seems to take offence when a lady restricts herself to men of a certain age. And some ladies may not see clients who have physical disabilities. All ladies have certain boundaries, and have to be respected

Remember, just because a lady is a paid companion doesn't mean every man who has money is entitled to see her. She still gets the final word on who she agrees to see based on her criteria

Done with this thread, makes me uncomfortable

RG

[WriteOn 3250]

First it may be very much racist. And if racist just as racist as a store owner having a sign on the door saying whites only

 

 

It's against the law to discriminate, the store owner cannot have such a sign. There is no provision, that I'm aware of, in the Charter of Rights that says it's OK to discriminate based on your profession.

 

I find it amusing that you are OK with racism if the person who is racist is an SP.

[roamingguy 300291]

It's against the law to discriminate, the store owner cannot have such a sign. There is no provision, that I'm aware of, in the Charter of Rights that says it's OK to discriminate based on your profession.

 

I find it amusing that you are OK with racism if the person who is racist is an SP.

 

I never said I am OK with racism if the person is an SP. I am not OK with racism period. As someone who has had to deal with my share of discrimination in my life I find that statement ignorant and offensive.

But I see there is a balancing act in this situation. If the lady is racist and sees white men only, what is your solution. To allow non white men to see her even though she doesn't want to. A man allowed to have sex with a woman who doesn't want to have sex with him, but she is forced to, that is sexual assault to me. I am not OK with racism, I am also not OK with sexual assault.

As for obvious counter argument, she should find other work then, well maybe economic circumstances force her into this profession, and maybe she wants control of one thing that is hers, her body

Now I'm out

RG

[zorobaby 4121]

I find it really funny to see people comparing SPs and MAs to regular shop clerks and hair stylists. In this industry its all YMMV, if a provider offers, lets say greek for the sake of an example, and she does it for one man but not the next person through the door... is that discrimination? No... its up to her to do what shes comfortable doing with certain men. Now the same applies for race, im Caucasian and havent had to deal with this, its always YMMV and not racism or discrimination.

 

I have the right to browse photos and choose who i see, as has been said already. If say i choose not to see providers that are a visible minority, does that make me racist? Does it make me discriminatory against other races because im turned on soley by a certain skin color? The major difference is that i personally dont have to advertise who i want to see... i dont have to post an add looking for "white women only".

 

Now to clarify before people start to light the torches and dust off the pitchforks... im not racist by any means, all ladies are beautiful, and we all bleed red. I just dont agree that some people are considering this blatant racism when it isnt, its a provider choosing who she is comfortable seeing. Its the same as posting in an add that you cannot smell bad... if you were alegic to water... would you file for discrimination? or just move on with your life and find someone else?

 

this is becoming a bigger and bigger ramble...

 

im done for now

[Brad 49548]

Does the SP have the right to offer her services based on race? Well, does the store owner? Let's say they legalize Prostitution, would it be legal then?

 

WriteOn, the answer is yes, a lady has the right to offer or refuse her services to whoever she chooses, based on whatever criteria she chooses. Be it age, gender, hygiene, number of dimples, favourite sports team, and yes, even race, it is always her choice to make.

 

Whether or not you or I or anyone approve of her reasons is completely irrelevant. It is her body, plain and simple. And the comparison of a lady to a grocery store is just...wrong.

[zorobaby 4121]

WriteOn, the answer is yes, a lady has the right to offer or refuse her services to whoever she chooses. Be it age, gender, hygiene, number of dimples, favourite sports team, and yes, even race, it is always her choice to make.

 

Whether or not you or I or anyone approve of her reasons is completely irrelevant. It is her body, plain and simple. And the comparison of a lady to a grocery store is just...wrong.

 

 

"what do you mean you wont see me because i am a leafs fan?!?"

 

lol

[LeeRichards 177238]

Well I would read the ad and go..... hmmmm...she has a reason for this and perhaps there is a particular experience that has caused her to reign in and focus on her preferences on who she wants to meet

 

or she is racist woman.

 

Either way I would promptly move on and forget about that shit because it is her life and I don't fit in to her life preferences obviously.

 

Cause I am white.

[ladyluck 10787]

That's how I interpreted it:"How do I handle her rules?"

 

I was immediately reminded of a very similar question on the other board. The thread turned pretty ugly. I wondered if this one was going the same route.

 

To me it seems common sense, but I guess some people like to overthink things. And like I said, most who have these restrictions state them clearly in their ads. Although one SP I know likes to make clients park in a spot she can see from her apartment, and then turns off her phone if she doesn't like their looks.

 

I knew an SP like that. She'd see them on security cam & not answer her phone. I thought how awful to waste the fellow's time. We scream constant about no show's & what not it should go both ways. What's to say what he had to do or reschedule to make it to that appointment. You men chose woman sometimes on nationality.

[Guest ***rgi*****9]

You men chose woman sometimes on nationality.

 

 

Holly you make an excellent point... for example some men will not choose an Asian SP, or will only choose a Caucasian SP, etc

 

It is everyone's choice who they see and that is all of our rights. I say just go out and have fun that's what this hobby is all about.

[Canadiansnowland 740]

she appears to be French... I won`t see French women.