Faking it?

[gimlee25 366]

I noticed my curiosity peaking on another thread so rather than take it off topic I thought I would start my own.

 

I am curious about the experiences both guys and ladies have in their sessions and how real life pressures, and expectations map into this industry.

 

Studies say that 90 percent of women have faked an orgasm, and that they do it 50 - 70 percent of the time I wonder how those statistics reflect on experiences and perception here.

 

To the ladies:

Do you fake orgasms with your clients? If so how frequently?

Do you feel the same expectation to fake an orgasm that you would with a real life partner?

 

To the guys:

Do you believe you give the ladies you see that level of pleasure?

Assuming that she is faking 70% of the time based on the above stats, does it matter?

 

Before we let our ego's lead the way and say we always give the desired result, or you always get off with clients, think about it. I am really curious what the perceptions are, given that most of what I have read on the forums is in opposition to what sexual studies say is really happening.

 

Looking forward to some interesting discourse.

 

Deepstrut

[Guest *l**e]

If I was one of the ladies, I wouldn't answer that; it's a no win situation. Realistically, no ones cums 100% of the time. If a lady states here that she never fakes, we all assume that's false. If she states she does fake sometimes, some guys will always wonder if what he encountered was true.

 

I say, go have fun, try your best to please whoever you are with, follow instructions/suggestions when they are offered and enjoy the fantasy.

[MightyPen 67414]

Before we let our ego's lead the way and say we always give the desired result

Make pleasure, and not necessarily orgasm, the desired result. That puts our sexual ambitions more in line with real human behaviour/capabilities/experience, and nobody has to fake anything.

[roamingguy 300292]

Isn't an encounter more than just about the "O". Isn't there pleasure in two adults getting together intimately. And it's a question, as Il Re says, you won't get a lady answering, it's a no win for her. She says she always has an orgasm, you assume she's fibbing, if she says she is faking, you as a client may be offended

A quote comes to mind, seems appropriate for discussions when the subject seems about orgasms, SOG's, MSOG's or whatever

 

 

And seeing a lady, just my opinion, is the encounter, is also metaphorically the journey

The destination, the orgasm. But if you focus solely on the orgasm you miss out on the journey...a journey which has enjoyment and pleasure too.

A philosophical rambling...hope it came out right :-)

 

RG

[Midnite-Energies 110563]

OMG I LOVE the journey. Sometimes it's about prolonging the pleasure not making it end with an orgasm. I love that sensual and sexual hum of energy that lights up your entire body.

 

I don't pay much attention to statistics because half the time the results are skewed from the beginning by where the participants are found and the screening process.

 

I think anyone who hasn't faked something at some point in life is lying, we're only human after all. However, that said, personally I don't fake much because I tend to look and find those things that excite and arouse me. If I cum, I cum. If I don't, I don't. What is heard between those points is all me.

 

I wouldn't want a man to fake anything with me and prefer open communication. I in turn, provide that as well. I know being of the mind that orgasm isn't the end all be all seems to be the minority but it works for me and I can only be me because everyone else is taken!

[Guest *l**e]

It's a proven fact; over 80% of all quoted statistics are totally fabricated.

 

(including this one)

[Ice4fun 78396]

Real... Fake.... all I can tell you is that statically speaking 99.999% of the time I leave my sessions Happy.... so if they faked it i don't care.

 

Just my opinion.

[mrgreen760 37785]

It happens way more than we think is does though some are much better at faking than others...

 

Peace

 

MG

[backrubman 64800]

I don't worry about this one bit. I know I can rock her world and I know I have many times and sometimes I'd rather just lay back and enjoy my afternoon like I did today and the lady didn't mind a bit, I'm very sure of it :)

[kmwq 5477]

I'm sure that none of the ladies have faked it with me...that's because I always cum first so to speak. If I am performing DATY which is rare, I don't do it long enough to give her real pleasure just long enough to get my fill and then I move onto something else. My goal is not to give her the big O. I want the suck on her nipples, do some DIGITS, play and squeeze her butt, kiss her neck and behind her ears, caress her legs and feet etc etc etc. There's too many things to do and too little time to do it. So no, no orgasm for her and she doesn't have to fake it.

[backrubman 64800]

I'm sure that none of the ladies have faked it with me...that's because I always cum first so to speak. If I am performing DATY which is rare, I don't do it long enough to give her real pleasure just long enough to get my fill and then I move onto something else. My goal is not to give her the big O. I want the suck on her nipples, do some DIGITS, play and squeeze her butt, kiss her neck and behind her ears, caress her legs and feet etc etc etc. There's too many things to do and too little time to do it. So no, no orgasm for her and she doesn't have to fake it.

 

Well sometimes you you can get a lot of pleasure by giving some so your attitude seems a little selfish but that is certainly your prerogative as it's your dime so I hope you don't take offense in any way when I say that.

 

If I get the message (attitude, body language or even one of several verbal languages I speak) that the lady would definitely like to be pleasured I will put my heart and sole into it and have a lot of fun and satisfaction in doing so, but I certainly don't have to do that to feel like a man and there may be times I know she just doesn't really need that (maybe she just had that or perhaps she knows she will with her next guest - not my business).

 

I must admit that I once spent several hours with a lady and as sometimes the case we just never got around to it until the appointment was almost over and I'm rarely disappointed with that (it's only one aspect of professional companionship and at least for me isn't a must have) but she didn't understand that so she got pretty aggressive in the last 15 minutes of our multi-hour appointment and I knew the groans and moans were fake (they had to be) so it was such a turn off for me I just got dressed and said goodbye.

 

The lady I referred to in my previous post on this thread that didn't mind knows me very well and has way too much class to fake it :)

[LeeRichards 177238]

It happens way more than we think is does though some are much better at faking than others...

 

Peace

 

MG

 

Sounds like a politician . "Nope ....sorry .... I was faking being genuine again whilst I was fucking you. Cause I'm good"

[kmwq 5477]

Well sometimes you you can get a lot of pleasure by giving some so your attitude seems a little selfish but that is certainly your prerogative as it's your dime so I hope you don't take offense in any way when I say that.

 

No offense taken, I've stated this in previous post. It's all about me and what I need when I see a SP. It's not to say that I am rude and demanding with the ladies. I pride myself on being a perfect gentlemen during the visit, just a selfish one. Sometimes I get what I need and sometimes I don't but that's life.

 

It's also nice when the ladies tell you that they are enjoying it or that it feels good and all the sweet nothing's. It completes the fantasy. However, I do have to say, I find it hard to believe that it's common to find a lady that can have an orgasm with the limited time we spend with them let alone with multiple clients throughout the day, so do the math. The odds are against you. I'm sure there are ladies that can manage that but few and far in between.

 

Finally, faking it has nothing to do with whether the lady has class or not. Faking it and making the client feel good about themselves and about the visit is part of the whole fantasy or illusion.

[backrubman 64800]

...Finally, faking it has nothing to do with whether the lady has class or not. Faking it and making the client feel good about themselves and about the visit is part of the whole fantasy or illusion.

 

Well I suppose you are right in a way but I still disagree in some sense. I was totally put off by it because I knew she was faking the moans and groans and it wasn't "honest" (just a show for my benefit, but unnecessarily patronizing me). I felt the time remaining for a proper physical encounter had long since passed but she had probably not encountered many that the physical part of the encounter is secondary and not something I ever absolutely "require". In fact I've long since decided if this doesn't happen more naturally it is something I would really rather skip entirely and have quite a few times but the truth be told it usually does occur.

 

There is a little more to this story: We did have a lengthy and very interesting conversation that I enjoyed but I was aware (although I didn't call her out on it) that she was lying about a lot of things. For instance, she mentioned that she had lived overseas in a particular city I am very familiar with so I would say something like, "so what do you think of this restaurant?" and she would cagily respond well it might be more your style but I didn't find it anything to write home about, of course there is no such restaurant in that city :)

 

If the lady is a pretty simple country girl from Dust bowl Oklahoma I find that more interesting than a pack of lies to make her seem to be more world traveled than she really is, and I would find some of her insight about growing up in Dust bowl more interesting than grandiose lies about overseas living :) For me, it's a lot better when a companion can just be herself and not have to try to convince me she is something she is not as even the simple country girl without much world travel is a very special person indeed who honours me with her presence and attention and has no need to be something fake.

 

Some very classy and skillful ladies have the ability to make a "connection" with you (particularly during a lengthy appointment) which is uncanny. To call that innate ability "classy" may be the wrong term but to me it puts a lady that posses this ability and is able to read you like a book in a different "class" entirely. This mostly intangible ability is what makes some SPs so much better than others that either weren't born with this gift it or haven't developed it fully just yet.

[kmwq 5477]

On that we may agree my friend, I'm a one and done kind of guy and I very much enjoy the conversation afterwards especially if we find something in common.

[jafo105 39057]

I don't think we need to put that kind of pressure on the ladies. If I can make her smile and laugh and she is asking to come back and visit. Then she has been satisfied in some way and enjoyed her time with me.

 

Just relax and enjoy your time together. I think most ladies care more about the man making her feel special and desired and appreciated. But what do I know I am just a guy.

[Guest **cely***r***ne]

In my opinion, it seems like it would take way too much energy to 'fake' it. I would rather tell you to change what you're doing if you want me to orgasm, if that doesn't change anything I would have no problem telling you it is just not going to work...and maybe some other "activity" can take its place (such as toys or mutual masterbation...etc)

[roamingguy 300292]

Just for a little levity

 

 

A Seinfeld episode for every occasion

 

RG :-)

[backrubman 64800]

In my opinion, it seems like it would take way too much energy to 'fake' it. I would rather tell you to change what you're doing if you want me to orgasm, if that doesn't change anything I would have no problem telling you it is just not going to work...

 

That's excellent and really what the client deserves. No two ladies are exactly alike so unless she tells us it takes time to learn about her. No sweeter words are spoken when I don't yet "know" the lady than this is what I really like and exactly how I like it :)

[Andee 220524]

Apparently Harry told Sally he could tell when a woman was faking it?

 

What do you think of Sally's response?

 

[Guest D***el B***e]

Totally agree with Il Re ... 90% of people will quote this statistics properly ... but the other 20 will never have heard of it ... ooops my numbers don't add up ... my stats must be off ... lol lol

 

 

It's a proven fact; over 80% of all quoted statistics are totally fabricated.

 

(including this one)

[Brad 49548]

In my opinion, it seems like it would take way too much energy to 'fake' it. I would rather tell you to change what you're doing if you want me to orgasm, if that doesn't change anything I would have no problem telling you it is just not going to work...and maybe some other "activity" can take its place (such as toys or mutual masturbation...etc)

 

Always nice when a lady is willing to make suggestions. Not only do I think it makes for a better time for everyone, but when the lady is engaging in this way and sharing her thoughts or offering ideas, it tells me she's really engaged in the encounter and not just passing time.

 

Obviously the tone and expression makes a difference. Suggestions don't have to sound like criticisms, they can be fun playful and teasing, or at least encouraging and eager.

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31682]

99% of the time i do cum with daty I absolutely love it enjoy it and promise to never fake it

But I cannot promise that I will always cum with sex but that doesn't mean it doesn't feel good ....maybe I am just having one of those days or I have a lot on my mind

I was never one of those porn star fake fucks so if I don't yell and scream don't take it personal lol

Xo

[VedaSloan 119179]

If a client is trying to pleasure me and it's not working for me, I say so. I would much rather tell him what I do like than send him off to the next worker with terrible skills that he thinks are just grand. Plus, I like orgasms. I'd also rather try to get off than just fake it.

 

While I can't speak for anyone else, I can always find something to like about a client--their smile, their voice, the way they kiss. I've had some rather unassuming guys turn out to be wonderful lovers.

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

I do think SP's "fake" it and any guy who thinks they don't fake it is pointing out his own ego issues. Any SP who say's they never fake anything is being an astute business person and knows where their bread is buttered, to use a colloquialism.

Now I'm not suggesting that SP's or any woman fakes it "all the time" or that it is always loud earth shattering screams of "OH GOD, OH GOD!" However, there is occasional faking going on. I also don't define faking in a negative sense of deception, but more as an improvisation or making something seem satisfactory. What's so wrong with that?

I'd be more concerned about someone who insists it doesn't happen than accepting the fact that it does.