silverado17 12689 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 i've noticed today that i lost some of my post count has this happened to anyone else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Yes, I believe it is because MODS have deleted posts that were made POST BILL C 36 being in effect. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spud271 47779 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 The MODS have just started to get everything in line for Bill C-36. Expect to see more posts deleted over the coming weeks. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxAxxx 21016 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 There is also some PM adjustments being made .. certain acronyms are being replaced with "........." I thought I had received the weirdest PM ever until the writer clarified a bit more. "Hi Alexxxis, I wanted to inquire about .... and ..... " Additional Comments: Those same acronyms have already been blocked for our ads as well, tried to put one on as a "tag" and the system asked me to not use them before I was allowed to post. I've also notice a few "....." in some ad headlines as well. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Best to voice call for details guy's. This is for your protection, and well as you can see the MODS have made it so that NO abbreviations will be shown. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Best to voice call for details guy's. This is for your protection, and well as you can see the MODS have made it so that NO abbreviations will be shown. Remember, if a client asks for any specific ......., it is considered solicitation. Just sayin... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomer 33202 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 What happens if the term is written with out abbreviations (longhand) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxAxxx 21016 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 If an acronym is deemed unsuitable, I am assuming the "long form" term which is undoubtedly more obvious must also be banned. Again, this is just my assumption. If I can't say 3 little letters (which were considered "secret code" for SEXUAL ACTS) I highly doubt mod would let me spell it out in plain English. Afterall, the acronym could have been short form for "anything" whereas the full on terms are rather straightforward and quite explicit. If anything, the long form would/should be banned before any acronyms. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 What happens if the term is written with out abbreviations (longhand) Word blocker still kicks in. Yes I am aware of what soliciting is ladies. But they are not going to have every cell phone in Canada tapped either. Besides, you don't have to sell those activites to say what do not enjoy personally. With that, I do not offer a menu but will establish my restrictions for safety in a code form. Just pointing out, safer to NOT email or PM or txt these questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300291 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 I think, and just my opinion, but ladies are going to have to get away from menu driven ads and gentlemen are going to seek companionship avoiding references to menus. A good example of how ladies can proceed is in a post by Emily Rushton http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=641091&postcount=2 in this thread http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=197803 BTW the word blocker blocked out the acronyms she used in her post LOL In a lighter vein Gabriella Laurence in this post http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=644034&postcount=8 basically suggested no menu isn't the end of the world It was from this thread http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=644034#post644034 Pick the fights you can win. Which is more important. Continuing to partake in this mutually beneficial lifestyle? Or seeing ads websites and posts with menus in them? Seeing an escort for time and companionship is legal. Seeking the ........ of a ........../sex worker/hooker for sex for money (or is that money for sex) is illegal. I will be legal, and private details will stay that way Do I like C36, no. But instead of head on battles about advertising/reading menus, is that really the immediate concern, or is partaking in this non exploitive mutually beneficial lifestyle the issue at hand. A rambling RG 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxAxxx 21016 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Yes I am aware of what soliciting is ladies. meant no offense, I'm just aware of how many gents have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER about C-36 and I didn't want them to read this thread thinking PM solicitations were no-no and phone calls were OK. My comment was more for their knowledge than yours :) Gotta dumb things down as much as possible for the users who can't be bothered to read a bit and to educate themselves on things that are obviously pertinent to them and their lifestyle choices. Ignorance is NOT bliss, whoever came up with that must have been pretty flippin' ignorant themselves if you ask me! ;) Edited November 10, 2014 by xxxAxxx typo + more comments 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Alexis, Sophia was directing that at my post. I certainly don't want guys to think they can call up a provider and ask her what they will get for their money. If, however, SHE wishes to tell a client what she enjoys during her encounters, that her choice. I just don't want guys to think THEY are a allowed to initiate a conversation on what specifics they will receive. That would be illegal and therefore they shouldn't do this. Time and companionship guys. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Pardon me? Perhaps re reading my post will clear that up. I stated I can state what I do NOT enjoy, in a voice call. There is no soliciting being done when I say I DO NOT enjoy A or B. All my ads and site state I am a paid for my time. I have always been paid for time, not for acts. No need to throw me under a bus here. I see many ads that state they do not like to travel to Greece, and I do not share fluid drinks ....I am not even posting that on my ads, just in voice calls for my safety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxAxxx 21016 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Best to voice call for details guy's. This is for your protection, and well as you can see the MODS have made it so that NO abbreviations will be shown. No need to throw me under a bus here. I see many ads that state they do not like to travel to Greece, and I do not share fluid drinks ....I am not even posting that on my ads, just in voice calls for my safety. No one is throwing you under any buses, yes you're right you are allowed to mention your restrictions, you are in fact allowed to do anything you want as long you don't pay any 3rd parties to advertise for you or allow any one to profit off of your avails. You're first post, which we both commented on, said nothing about restrictions. You just said phone calls were OK, which was very vague. We only both pointed out that soliciting over the phone is not OK, neither of us "accused" you of soliciting sex; we both just spelled out the minor details a tad further for the uninformed reader. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado17 12689 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 i can see this post is going down the wrong track...just saying 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Alexis, Sophia was directing that at my post. I certainly don't want guys to think they can call up a provider and ask her what they will get for their money. If, however, SHE wishes to tell a client what she enjoys during her encounters, that her choice. I just don't want guys to think THEY are a allowed to initiate a conversation on what specifics they will receive. That would be illegal and therefore they shouldn't do this. Time and companionship guys. I read the post you are referring to and she never said she would tell them what she "enjoys" during her encounter. Which is why it's always best to clarify what someone means rather than assuming. As for answering questions by voice call, I have no problem doing that to a certain extent. Besides, it is not illegal for us to discuss these things on the phone. Yes, guys shouldn't be doing this because it's technically soliciting sex for money. But that doesn't mean they still aren't going to and we need to come up with well prepared answers. It's going to take some time to "train" them on the new etiquette. I have been working in-call for years and was technically breaking the law, but no-one seemed to worry about that. Honestly I don't see much changing except the way I word my ads and answer written correspondence. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294340 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 i can see this post is going down the wrong track...just saying I agree. I think what the poster meant is to call for further details. Nothing was said about soliciting ......... It is best to call for further details as code words can be better used in conversation. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Ok - so when a guy calls a new play who is offering a unbelievable special, and he asks for "details of what she will do," and then finds out its a sting. Is his defense going to be "I was told it's best to ask by phone." I'm sorry, but I feel we are giving a false illusion that text and email is not ok, but voice calling is, and is doing them a disservice to them. They should be able to understand by the ad itself. My point is that clients should not be asking for details except to clarify rates and locations. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxAxxx 21016 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) I agree with Meagan, neither of us ever said she (sophia) is soliciting sex via phone calls, we simply both said (more than once now) that we are simply adding more details to her VAGUE comment; which could be misconstrued by a reader. The amount of gentlemen PM/emailing me etc without ANY knowledge of this bill at all is somewhat overwhelming. I will continue to elaborate anywhere I feel needs elaboration in hopes of educating the less informed. If a guy is gonna solicit you via phone, it's his ass on the line not yours anyways. But i think a lot of guys who aren't aware of this being a criminal act would be happy to know rather than "find out the hard way"... Many, MANY users here are frequent TOFTT on BP kind of guys. Where else would you find the potential "stings" that may (or may not) occur? The conservatives will be looking for some proof of the validity of their actions, surely? In order to continue brainwashing the unsuspecting, uninformed general public... Edited November 10, 2014 by xxxAxxx 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunValerie 8573 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Thank you for this thread. I am getting a better idea of what I can and cannot post to stay out of trouble and help keep everyone out of trouble. Thank you, Everyone! I only ever sell time. It is not my fault if money makes me happy. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kate von Katz 49953 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 I think the biggest task is going to be re-training clients, as Angela mentioned. Especially here in BC where this industry has always been pretty accepted and things are fairly open and easy-going here. Personally, I am not the slightest bit concerned about my local LE busting me for anything - even if I do choose to get into details over the phone. However, not all municipalities take as tolerant and benevolent a view on our industry and as a rule, I think it's a good idea to stick to basic information and key phrases like "open-minded" (can we still use that? Surely, I would think we can). Clients will just have to learn to read between the lines. And in the end, I find clients that don't want a menu are almost always better clients than the ones who are eager to reduce your companionship to how good your .... skills are or other such things. It's been said by many ladies, and it bears mentioning again: this is chance for us girls to bring back some of the tact and elegance of our companionship. Yes, many clients will not catch on as they are either unaware of the new law and/or they're just stubborn. Ultimately, you have to decide for yourself what you consider to be okay in terms of how you interact with clients before meeting them. If you're comfortable going into detail over the phone, just be aware of the risks involved. There are many advocacy groups in many cities around Canada, and I see no reason why you shouldn't contact them and/or speak to the liason officer at your municipality's police department about the reality of this law. Afterall, while a law may be on the books, the reality of enforcing it may not be so severe. It's good to be informed so you can make a choice that you are comfortable with and that works for you. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300291 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Says it all RG 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jabba 18389 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Mods must be having an interesting time adjusting to unknown variables. If I were an IT guy, I'd be pulling my hairs (starting with the nose). Who knows how far they have to redact past posts. For those who are counting lost posts, have you also lost corresponding rep points? I'm just a ......, but apparently my posts are ...... and ...... ......oh .......! They found me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado17 12689 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 the best way to handle it all is to wipe everyone clean and start all over.... would make it easier on mod...just saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294340 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 I am ...... And I'm located at..... All kidding aside, the Mod has a very difficult task right now to keep this community going and also abiding by the laws. I think he deserve some credit with this huge undertaking. Posted via Mobile Device 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
