Photo Shop- Victoria Meadows

[EmilyRushton 253356]

I'm not sure how you'd know this, but if you have proof then you should report those who make false statements as that's just unfair for the companion who is being denounced.

 

Maybe you should take a gander over to the "REVIEW BOARDS" and read the kind and lovely comments from men who admit to never have seeing a certain companion yet tear her photos to shreds. It exists everywhere and the ones who have never met ladies are usually the worst with their comments. Not everything in this business is fairies and rainbows.

[CristyCurves 169032]

Maybe you should take a gander over to the "REVIEW BOARDS" and read the kind and lovely comments from men who admit to never have seeing a certain companion yet tear her photos to shreds. It exists everywhere and the ones who have never met ladies are usually the worst with their comments. Not everything in this business is fairies and rainbows.

 

Hmm, fairies and rainbows, Miss Rushton it is you who often comments to this business as being about fantasy,lol. So when I get off my unicorn I'll have a gander at those boards, lol.

In all seriousness, if that's the case then why even bother mentioning them, they are obviously stupid and irrelevant. I'm sure their comments will be seen by the wise as such. After all, if someone hasn't seen the person how can they comment to their appearance. Ignore, ignore, is the rule for them. Many of us have been the brunt of ignorance, crude and stupid remarks. Noting their presence just validates them imo. Thanks for your response.

[EmilyRushton 253356]

Hmm, fairies and rainbows, Miss Rushton it is you who often comments to this business as being about fantasy,lol. So when I get off my unicorn I'll have a gander at those boards, lol.

In all seriousness, if that's the case then why even bother mentioning them, they are obviously stupid and irrelevant. I'm sure their comments will be seen by the wise as such. After all, if someone hasn't seen the person how can they comment to their appearance. Ignore, ignore, is the rule for them. Many of us have been the brunt of ignorance, crude and stupid remarks. Noting their presence just validates them imo. Thanks for your response.

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In reality yes we all provide a fantasy or an escape in what we do. However the reality is this business can be a VERY cruel one and the real truth is very visible on other boards which allow it. This site is a nice and friendly place where the cruel reality of negative reviews or comments do not exist. You would be surprised at how many new people wild believe a post from someone with a high post count (true or not). If we don't not the fact this BS goes on, it will only get worse and people need to be made aware of it.

[roamingguy 300292]

RG, that's fantastic to know, that you haven't been mislead , and your very fortunate , as there are some who have seen Elite service providers, that haven't been so lucky, it's true they are far and few between but my opinion is keeping it real,, no lies, just real :)

 

Really if you do know of ladies who have had professional photographs done that are a clear misrepresentation of themselves, you should report it in the Warnings Section of the city they are in. Your post, at least to me implies all ladies who have professional photos done are misleading potential clients. Even ladies I saw and couldn't recommend, their photos were accurate. And to say I have been lucky, I have partaken in this lifestyle since July 2010. Not one lady's photo a misrepresentation of her

I haven't been lucky, I do my research. A lady who misrepresents herself with photos needs to be reported in the Warnings Section, because fake or misrepresented photos are part of bait and switch

My concern with a thread like this, it paints all ladies who use professional photos as misrepresenting themselves. And ladies who invest in themselves by having professional photos shouldn't be painted with the same brush as those who use what I'll call fake photos

Your thread does a major disservice to many professional companions here on Lyla, especially the ones who invest in themselves by having professional photos done.

A rambling over cup number two

 

RG

[CristyCurves 169032]

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In reality yes we all provide a fantasy or an escape in what we do. However the reality is this business can be a VERY cruel one and the real truth is very visible on other boards which allow it. This site is a nice and friendly place where the cruel reality of negative reviews or comments do not exist. You would be surprised at how many new people wild believe a post from someone with a high post count (true or not). If we don't not the fact this BS goes on, it will only get worse and people need to be made aware of it.

We are now both going off topic, but I hope the op won't mind this response.

As someone who has been the brunt of such comments and tribulations I can believe how many will fall prey to and believe ridiculous and cruel comments. I've just stopped caring. I also learned that those who make them and those who like to spread their falsehoods want notoriety, so I still say they are better ignored. Those who are intelligent, have no agenda and those who are non-biased, whether they are new to the scene or not will not believe or have their opinion of someone affected by such rubbish.

This site does cater to positivity and is a step up from others however some of those on other boards I'm sure are here. Many still post their dislike or infer negativity towards someone they just do it differently here, that too I've experienced. No site is perfect .

It is a shame that anyone should have to defend their work, whether that be their photos, website, companionship, etc. No one here is perfect and we all should want one another to evolve, prosper and thrive, but sadly it appears to be not the case.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

Victoria, I find this thread to be distasteful and not in the spirit of this site. I truly feel an apology is warranted. It's one thing to discuss bait and switch (which you have indicated to not be the case), but you are critiquing those that photo shop their pictures to "an extent of changing how they really look".

 

It airs on the side of airing out dirty laundry. I can just see the pm's you must get saying "who are you talking about". Since you have read the sticky on airing out dirty laundry, you understand this is not ok. Especially after posting this:

 

I too was told of this site by another SP, and LOVE IT,,thankfully it exists,, I am truly grateful to this site! it brightens my day, no negativity, or drama, which in our line of work, is of up most importance,,we should be sticking together, helping each other, having each other's backs, the general public causes enough grief with the judgements and stigma, we need each other,,thank you LYLA!

 

If you can't support others, don't complain about those YOU feel are doing something you don't agree with. Either support others or stay silent please.

 

My civilian look is totally different then my business look. I'd hate to think that someone is going around saying I look nothing like my pictures. My pictures are 100% me. No retouching and no photoshop. I do crop them but that's it. I admire those that get professional pictures done and have no issue with them enhancing them.

 

I've never lost business because of someone else's business practices. I do my thing and do very well. I would never post a critical post like this.

 

If you know of someone who is blatantly posting pictures on THIS SITE that are not accurate, AND you have proof, post in bait and switch or notify mod. However insinuating otherwise is not cool.

[Guest **cely***r***ne]

Exactly!

I haven't had a single request for my civilian wear...not sure how many people think leggings or jogging pants are a sensual outfit!

And yes, if this is true and a knowledge of "fake" or pictures that are not a representation of the advertiser are placed on her add it should be reported. It is only a common courtesy to our lovely gentlemen friends.

 

 

 

My civilian look is totally different then my business look. I'd hate to think that someone is going around saying I look nothing like my pictures.

[Victoria Phoenix 3403]

MM I am sorry you feel that way, the post was in no way to be disrespectful to anyone, it was simply an opinion on photo shop over kill, and my feelings on it, not to start disrespecting anyone on photos of any kind , which I previously posted, I'm not sure how this offended anyone, but if it did I apoligize, I don't feel it's airing out dirty laundry, when you simply have an opinion, but I am new to Lyla, so again I apologize if the thread did offend anyone

[misterdiscretion2014 2032]

I have had the displeasure of people misrepresenting themselves with their photography in the past, but it was a bait and switch, not an over photoshopped picture.

 

As pro photographers get paid to make people look their best, I don't expect anyone to look exactly like they do in a staged photo in a controlled environment like a studio. Lighting plays a huge role in how you look in a picture, and a professional can emphasize a woman's best qualities in a way that a selfie will not, but I don't think that is necessarily misleading, it's just a photographer doing their job to the best of their abilities. There is one very beautiful woman who has commented on this thread with a wide variety of pro pictures, and while there may be some evidence of photoshopping here and there, I can say from experience that this woman does indeed look quite spectacular in person. I would be quite shocked if anyone felt mislead by her portfolio, and on a personal level, I think she looks much better in person ( with less make-up - another photography *trick* :p )

[roamingguy 300292]

MM I am sorry you feel that way, the post was in no way to be disrespectful to anyone, it was simply an opinion on photo shop over kill, and my feelings on it, not to start disrespecting anyone on photos of any kind , which I previously posted, I'm not sure how this offended anyone, but if it did I apoligize, I don't feel it's airing out dirty laundry, when you simply have an opinion, but I am new to Lyla, so again I apologize if the thread did offend anyone

 

You've given no real examples of ladies using photo shop overkill as you put it, hence it comes across as any lady using professional photographers (who use photoshop) are misrepresenting themselves. It does a disservice to many ladies out there, and leads prospective clients (especially newbies) to think professional photos are misrepresenting the ladies

If you could cite facts to back up your opinion, then the response you're getting would be different. But you've cited no facts, just posted an unsubstantiated opinion

And your unsubstantiated opinion has to be offensive and disrespectful to each and every lady who invests in herself, time and money, getting professional photos done.

Said as someone who has been fortunate to see many ladies who have had professional photos done, and the ladies in person, if anything are much more beautiful than the photos they use to represent themselves

 

RG

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

MM I am sorry you feel that way, the post was in no way to be disrespectful to anyone, it was simply an opinion on photo shop over kill, and my feelings on it, not to start disrespecting anyone on photos of any kind , which I previously posted, I'm not sure how this offended anyone, but if it did I apoligize, I don't feel it's airing out dirty laundry, when you simply have an opinion, but I am new to Lyla, so again I apologize if the thread did offend anyone

 

I must vent

 

This is where I have an issue. This site is about positive issues. By "venting," it changes what this site is about. We are not allowed to vent.

 

I'm sorry this issue bothers you, and you feel it's important to point out what others are doing (again this is your opinion not necessarily shared by others, and I still don't understand why you felt the need to vent about).

 

Now, if you were talking about public figures (like Halle Berry making herself appear white in her recent pictures), that's an entirely different matter. However, to mention being 20 pounds heavier, buck teeth and such, sorry, it's not ok ON THIS SITE.

 

Unless you have something positive to say...Please stay silent about these types of issues. Thank you for apologizing.

[fortunateone 156618]

You've given no real examples of ladies using photo shop overkill as you put it, hence it comes across as any lady using professional photographers (who use photoshop) are misrepresenting themselves. It does a disservice to many ladies out there, and leads prospective clients (especially newbies) to think professional photos are misrepresenting the ladies

If you could cite facts to back up your opinion, then the response you're getting would be different. But you've cited no facts, just posted an unsubstantiated opinion

And your unsubstantiated opinion has to be offensive and disrespectful to each and every lady who invests in herself, time and money, getting professional photos done.

Said as someone who has been fortunate to see many ladies who have had professional photos done, and the ladies in person, if anything are much more beautiful than the photos they use to represent themselves

 

RG

 

 

I was going to say something like this, For example, we see a picture that is obviously photo shopped. But there is no reason why we also must assume that the photo is not longer representative of the sp herself. That was the point i was trying to make.

 

There is a style of photographs that are meant to attract a specific type of clientele, this is what i was referring to when i said professional photos tell a type of client that the sp is heavily invested in her reputation and her business, and for that type of clientele, it signals that she is the exact sort of escort he wants to see. This is not a client who is impresses by selfies, he is impressed by what professional photos & marketing tell him more about the escort.

 

There are escorts who know who this clientele is, and you can see from their pro photos that this is their main target market. Some agencies are aware of this as well, so they have a tendency to use that same style of photography on all their escorts pages. it isn't misleading, it is doing exactly what it intends to do.

 

i haven't met the sps who use this type of photography, so it isn't my place to decide that they are using photo shop to mislead. If i met face to face all of the escorts who have chosen this type of photography (as in that type of client) then maybe I could claim that i know it is all misleading to use retouching.

 

This is a different market, it is not one that i make claims to try to access. However, I can recognize that the style works, and it is meant to draw in that kind of client. Also that these clients are comparing sites/photos/info from many different escorts or agencies, and all of those are using the same style photography. if the word 'elite' has meaning, this is where it would show up. Elite (wealthy, traveling, business class) clients seeking elite escorts (discreet, professional, attractive, mature, able to blend in social activities, and so on).

[Miss S. Lane 67128]

To each their own. We should all focus on what works for each of us individually. Variety, after all, is the spice of life! :)

[Phaedrus 209521]

There's a fine line between touching up photos to remove temporary blemishes, and going far enough that it might be considered deceptive. Unfortunately, we all have different opinions about what's fair and what's not.

 

Remember also: it's not just about editing the pics after they've been taken. Even if you do nothing, lighting and angles and posture and clothes can do a huge amount to change the way you look. Have a quick look at this if you want an example; there are plenty of similar articles about before-and-after shots if you search around a bit.

 

I haven't had a single request for my civilian wear...not sure how many people think leggings or jogging pants are a sensual outfit!

 

Lots, apparently. How else do you explain the success of Lululemon?

[Guest **cely***r***ne]

Oh yes. I know how sexy yoga pants are! I have quite a few pairs!

I was meaning jogging pants. The baggy comfortable not to be seen in public but typically seen at Walmart pants.

 

 

Lots, apparently. How else do you explain the success of Lululemon?

[Andee 220524]

Even if the OP was not venting about someone in particular, it's usually not in good taste for a companion to initiate a thread that criticizes how others conduct their business (in this case, using photoshop) while promoting their own upcoming photoshoot.

 

Just my 2 cents.

[Victoria Phoenix 3403]

Your right MA, I was not venting at all, simply an opinion,which was not meant to be criticism or telling another how to operate their business, I just felt that, because of the messages that I have received from clients, asking if those are my real pics, and meeting a few ladies that had used photo shop to the extreme, I thought I would address the issue, to get others opinions, as I have understood since being new the posts are to be positive, unfortunately some of the responses were not, and being told to keep silent or accusations I feel is not so positive,, and would make one not one to post or share how they feel on any given subject if they are going to be attacked on a simple subject, that was misconstrude from the get go ,, my honest opinion

[EmilyRushton 253356]

Your right MA, I was not venting at all, simply an opinion,which was not meant to be criticism or telling another how to operate their business, I just felt that, because of the messages that I have received from clients, asking if those are my real pics, and meeting a few ladies that had used photo shop to the extreme, I thought I would address the issue, to get others opinions, as I have understood since being new the posts are to be positive, unfortunately some of the responses were not, and being told to keep silent or accusations I feel is not so positive,, and would make one not one to post or share how they feel on any given subject if they are going to be attacked on a simple subject, that was misconstrude from the get go ,, my honest opinion

 

As others have stated, people took offence when you generalized instead of providing facts, as well you did say you were venting(in post number one first line). I took your post as a personal attack (as well did some others), as yes I only use professional phots in my advertising and yes I photoshop (I admit it and am proud of it). Im selling a brand, one I invest in and yes I'm proud of what I represent and stand for. You get one chance for a first impression, how you choose to make it is up to you.

 

How one lady runs her business, whether you like it or not is really none of anyones concern but hers. There will always be someone in this business or any business who over does something to an extreme, its best to just ignore it - move on and focus on ones own business.

 

When we start to care what others do, it takes away from the focus on our own personal business.

 

If you want to start a post like this, maybe think of using some real examples in the future instead of "some ladies".

[CristyCurves 169032]

Can we move on. I think she has been chastised, scolded, informed and judged enough. She has apologized, explained, yet the critiques keep coming. You want her to state facts/names?....wouldn't that be indiscrete and why would anyone take it personally, no names were mentioned. Often posts are made, that many of us could assume are about us but unless we are named then they are generalizations and many generalize here, just as many judge and critique. There aren't any rules about generalizing, if I'm not mistaken.

If anyone who has posted here is happy with their approach/business, pics, sites and so on, then who cares what anyone says. It was an opinion, at least that's how I saw it . Opinions were made in this thread to those who take selfies as not being professional companions, I didn't take that personally. I replied to it because I know that's not the case, but I didn't chastise her nor did anyone else because she is entitled to her opinion.

[Eric Northman 16522]

Thanks for being the voice of reason Cristy. This site is not different from other online forums in that dog-piles sometimes happen and people can get beat down pretty badly. Having been on the receiving end of that sort of thing, I can assure you it's not pleasant and drives people away.

 

I'm not convinced Victoria needed to be nuked from orbit. The responses have seemed a bit disproportionate to the offense.

[Victoria Phoenix 3403]

Thank you Christy and Eric!! You two made my day! :)

[Eric Northman 16522]

Thank you Christy and Eric!! You two made my day! :)

 

No problem kiddo. You're new here so we'll give you a break this time but if it happens again...oooh boy... Pow! Right in the kisser!

 

Just kidding. I promise, we're really nice people here. Friendliest little board in all the land. It's true!

 

:-D

[Victoria Phoenix 3403]

Well I must say,, I certainly came in with a bang lol :) and agreed there is very friendly people on here, I am thankful to have spoken too,, and look forward to meeting more xo

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

I think it is safe to say that every member at one time or another has been "cyber spanked" lol...I certainly have had a few!

:spank:

[Victoria Phoenix 3403]

Thanks for the " spank" Sophia!! Xo