On Cancelling

[pkrain 962]

I'm starting to get a headache in regards to clients cancelling. I have no idea what to do to prevent it or if I CAN prevent it.

 

Lately, my only method has been to mention that cancelling adds a small amount to the next time they want to meet, as that weeds out guys that would reschedule repeatedly and keep not showing up. And, clients that act like I've personally insulted them for doing so I probably wouldn't have wanted to meet anyways due to that absurd sense of entitlement.

 

I mean, I get it, but I wish they'd understand it's also my job. When you cancel, that's me throwing away money. Like your boss calling you into work and then burning your paycheque in front of you and saying "lol never mind you don't work today". If you're going to schedule, make sure you actually have the time for it.

 

 

On another note, is it at all possible that people fake accounts out of spite to book with girls they don't like and then back out? Has that been a thing, ever?

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

I feel your pain!

Is tricky on cancellations cause on one hand at least they canceld and didn't pull a no show,

But on the other hand you can't tell if it is a sincer cancellation.

I had one person that did it over and over, so I told him I won't bother booking him anymore. Sent me a big sob story, and never heard from him for about a year. Then when I was in his city, he tried to book again, I explained that I will not book him as the history we had so far was not good. He then said, ohh so sorry I was having a hard time then. I still refused to book him. So in this case the only thing I could do is just plainly refuse him for now on.

 

On occation they cancel because they are new and nervous, if it is the second time I ask them if this is why . Then explain to them how it messes us up when this happens. I gently say they are welcome to book one more time , but if canceled then I will refuse a future engagement.

 

And yes, sadly sometimes there is a jealous person behind it too. Some people just get off on the power trip from messing up our day.

[CristyCurves 169032]

I'm starting to get a headache in regards to clients cancelling. I have no idea what to do to prevent it or if I CAN prevent it.

 

Lately, my only method has been to mention that cancelling adds a small amount to the next time they want to meet, as that weeds out guys that would reschedule repeatedly and keep not showing up. And, clients that act like I've personally insulted them for doing so I probably wouldn't have wanted to meet anyways due to that absurd sense of entitlement.

 

I mean, I get it, but I wish they'd understand it's also my job. When you cancel, that's me throwing away money. Like your boss calling you into work and then burning your paycheque in front of you and saying "lol never mind you don't work today". If you're going to schedule, make sure you actually have the time for it.

 

 

On another note, is it at all possible that people fake accounts out of spite to book with girls they don't like and then back out? Has that been a thing, ever?

 

I'm sorry for you Jenny, but hang in there we all get them. I know that hearing this won't solve the issue but hopefully it will console you a bit. To answer your last question, I believe so. But cancellations happen for a myriad of reasons from the legitimate to the down right felonious and spiteful.

I find asking for an email money transfer for pre-bookings helps and have potential clients call an hour or so before meeting to confirm, if they don't call move on. That way there isn't much time wasted. I believe it was Nicholette who recommended this to me and it helps.

Remember the good times when the bad arise, that'll make them pass more quickly and know you aren't alone:)

[Ice4fun 78396]

Disrespect is disrespect... I see nothing wrong with asking repeat canceling client to either pay a deposit or pay full in advance.

 

Just my Opinion

 

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[silverado17 12689]

I'm starting to get a headache in regards to clients cancelling. I have no idea what to do to prevent it or if I CAN prevent it.

 

Lately, my only method has been to mention that cancelling adds a small amount to the next time they want to meet, as that weeds out guys that would reschedule repeatedly and keep not showing up. And, clients that act like I've personally insulted them for doing so I probably wouldn't have wanted to meet anyways due to that absurd sense of entitlement.

 

I mean, I get it, but I wish they'd understand it's also my job. When you cancel, that's me throwing away money. Like your boss calling you into work and then burning your paycheque in front of you and saying "lol never mind you don't work today". If you're going to schedule, make sure you actually have the time for it.

 

 

On another note, is it at all possible that people fake accounts out of spite to book with girls they don't like and then back out? Has that been a thing, ever?

 

this has happened before not sure if it's still going on where pimps were booking up ladies to try get biz for there ladies....just saying

[roamingguy 300291]

It sucks, but sometimes cancellations are legitimate and a fact of life

Speaking for myself, I cancelled last minute on a touring lady due to illness. What I did was still pay her in full for the encounter...why should she be out plane fair, hotel fees etc due to my illness

Another time I had to postpone on a lady but when I re-booked a few weeks later I increased our time together and increased her tip...for the inconvenience

What I would suggest, is first implementing screening/verification for prospective clients. What it has involved, and only seen from this guy's vantage point, is providing a lady my real name, board handle confirmed by PM, email and phone number. You likely could ask a lady (or ladies) how screening/verification works. To this end there is a Verified Independent's Section (Ladies Only)...contact the Mod about how to gain access

Second is you could insist on a deposit from a prospective client before booking. Someone is not going to be a no show if he has paid a deposit

Just a couple thoughts

A rambling

 

RG

[johnmalkovich 330]

I am sorry to hear that and I understand your frustration. But Unfortunately there is only that much you can do about it.

It is impossible to discern if someone is cancelling because of a genuine reason or not. Some really good ideas have already been mentioned. I would recommend the following:-

 

- Repeat offenders or last minute cancellations: after two or more last minute cancellation or reschedule, Just stop booking them. if they don't respect your time, they don't deserve it.

 

- 24 hour cancellation notice policy where applicable, otherwise a small "cancellation fee" gets added to your next time.

 

Now you can be a little lax with your regular clients vs new clients. But I would let you decide that.

But this is the nature of any service providing profession. Don't take it too hard and like cristycurves mentioned look at the good times :)

[Jolie 3370]

Hang in there girl we all feel your pain on this one ,for me the real butt burner is the ones that don't bother to cancel and just no show but I agree this is happening much more often now not sure why. I find getting them to call the hour before as suggested earlier helps but it isnt fool proof. Good luck and drop me a pm anytime if you have question or just need to bend an ear.

[50 Shades Raven 31380]

sorry to hear that is happening to you. We all go through that.

 

I use the two-step method.

 

Client emails, texts or calls.

I take the booking, and then I confirm with them the morning of the appointment.

Once I receive the confirmation back, I let them know I will call them with my exact location an hour before the appointment time.

(This eliminates those that had no intention of showing from having your address.)

 

At this point, if they confirm, they receive the address. If they are rescheduling, I make the changes with the same information. If they need to cancel, I thank them for their interest, and leave it at that.

If they repeatedly cancel at the hour before, I let them know I won't book them without a small deposit.

 

I always ask for a phone number in order to contact a gentleman, and for a convenient time to call since that phone may be answered by someone else.

If it's for an outcall to a hotel, have the gentlemans name and room number, most hotels are screening all the calls that come in and will ask you for your parties name if you just ask for a room number.

It's always good to check with the hotel that the person is actually there, unless it is a trusted client that you have seen before.

 

I found out through trial an error what works for me.

And yes, there are those that book with you with no intention of showing just to fill up their own girls schedules, unfortunately.

Had it happen to me.

 

Hang in there, you will find a solution that works for you.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

Another thing I do, is I don't confirm on their first call. So if they call me, and just want to book without asking any questions, I ask them to call me back 15 minutes before our appointment for the details of my location.

 

This way if they don't intend to actually come over, they don't have my location.

 

For repeat offenders, I ignore or ask for a deposit. I very rarely get cancellation. Feel free to pm me for specifics on what you do to make sure you're not missing critical steps.

 

Good luck.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

It depends on if you're booking in advance such as hours in advance on the same day or days before. Personally I have given up on booking days in advance and I no longer use email because it's useless for me and just one extra step of going back and forth. I like direct contact with limited texting which allows me an more of an understanding of who I'm dealing with and a phone call to officially book. If they don't call to book, I know they're not serious and I end the texting conversation immediately.

 

I have found a lot of men want to see someone when the mood strikes and I figure that's something you can't schedule. Unless of course they really do want to meet an escort if they are coming from out of town for example and are working around an itinerary.

 

I will only book appointments in advance now if they are a regular I have been seeing for a long time. There are a few of my clients who do this but they are very consistent. If it's anyone else, I don't know them and I tell them if they want to meet me a certain day to call or text in the morning to schedule a time.

 

This way I know they are half serious. The likelihood of a client cancelling on the day of meeting as opposed to days in advance is much slimmer. If the person doesn't schedule a time that morning, there will always be someone else who wants to book.

 

If they do book a time the same day hours in advance, I will get them to confirm with me by text an hour before meeting and of course I tell them that if something comes up to please give me as much advanced notice as possible. If I don't hear back after they specifically asked for time then they are considered a waste of time to me and I will not bother to book with them again.

 

My cancellations are very low because I like to schedule within the hour or two and if they cancel or no show it's not as great of a loss as if it was income that was anticipated in advance. I do mostly massage now and most of the men who visit me stop by on their lunch hour, after work on their way home or on a weekend when they're out running errands without their spouse. These are the type of clients who have been good because although it is short notice that is how I'm running my business now and it works for me with a lot less headaches. :)

[Winnipegcub 21293]

Hi Jenny. You certainly sound like you have the right attitude and approach to this. And the ladies as always are providing some found advice.

 

From a gents standpoint...yeh it's just wrong. A rare occasion can occur and I can imagine a cancellation is a little better than an outright no show. As has been said it is very disrespectful. And those are likely not situations that would turn into a 'good' date.

 

In 5 years I've never cancelled. I was late once but that is because the plane I was travelling on was delayed and the lady and I stayed in contact by text so she was aware. But I too have been 'no-showed'. 3 times in fact. It does really suck and in all cases those ladies didn't stay in the business long.

 

Hang in there, know it happens, and cherish the great encounters.

 

Cub

[YoungBeautyMirella 5600]

Sadly all that just comes with this. There are tons of guys out there that book with no intention of actually coming to see you. I have had it where the guy even book days even weeks in advance, sound very sincere and respectful and even confirms and call when they are 'in the area' and never show up. That is why I never give the full address when booking. I agree with a previous comment about pimps trying to mess with other girls(I have even googled numbers after a no show and saw that it was another working girls number) but I also think some guys just like imagining us 'getting ready for them' and get off on that..When I get a no show I never text asking where they are etc because I know that is what they want. Certainly sometimes stuff does happen and you can't control it but usually you can tell who is just making excuses and playing games. Cancelling 10 minutes before an apt usually doesn't help lol. Thankfully this doesn't happen too often and the men who are gentlemen all make up for it :D

[Kate von Katz 49953]

Cancellations and no-shows are a fact of life, not just in this line of work but in all lines of work. Dentists, physicians, hair dressers, etc.... they have all had people not show for appointments or cancel without rescheduling. It happens.

 

You can't control what other people do but you can sure as hell control what you allow them to get away with.

 

Many ladies have a policy where if a gent cancels with less than a certain amount of notice given, he is to pay an additional fee on his next visit. Other ladies have a policy where a deposit is required to book again. Both are useful and will help weed out the chronic timewasters.

 

And the point about having a gent confirm the appointment shortly before is a must, in my opinion. Don't give out your location, just your general area (nearest major intersection) and have clients phone you when they are there to get the address and directions. Clients who have no intention of showing up will often just not bother to make that confirmation call and you can go ahead and make a note of their number so you can decide if you want to bother answering if they call again.

 

Don't be afraid to impose rules on your clients. The ones worth seeing will be happy to oblige.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I don't want to steer the conversation in a different direction but I thought I would add to Kate's point about the address and location when giving it out to clients.

 

Sometimes if I have doubts I will make the person call from a payphone to make sure they're in the area. Many ladies who used to escort years ago and before cell phones would make clients call from the nearest payphone to make sure they were in the area. In fact, I knew one gal who told me that she had a bird's eye view from her balcony apartment to the payphone she would get her clients to call from.

 

With technology these days, spoofing numbers and texting apps, privacy is always a must but you still have to go with your gut instincts which is why I always make sure I speak with them on the phone and I ask to call them back. It's kind of like being a bloodhound sniffing them out so to speak and if my intuition is yelling "No!", I excuse myself and hang up without booking them. I know within 20 seconds whether I want to meet a person or not. They could sound like the nicest person in the world but if something really throws me off whether it's how they speak to me, the type of questions they ask, I listen to that inner voice, always! Same goes for text with the type of questions they ask.

 

I will never book strictly by text or give out the address in text in case someone's wife were to find it or people who have no boundaries, etc.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Thanks, all of you guys. I genuinely just had a no show, "I'm in the area" and I texted the address/apartment number and he didn't show up, but this is some backpage guy- think I'm done using backpage, it has the most pimps/spiteful workers-people. I wish I had read this thread before going through that nonsense AGAIN, this is four in a row. I am so siiiick of it, I may start asking for deposits beforehand from anyone. Jesus.

 

Aww sorry to hear. I know this can be so discouraging but rest assured there are gentlemen out there who will follow your protocol.

 

I'm sending you a PM.

[50 Shades Raven 31380]

Thanks, all of you guys. I genuinely just had a no show, "I'm in the area" and I texted the address/apartment number and he didn't show up, but this is some backpage guy- think I'm done using backpage, it has the most pimps/spiteful workers-people. I wish I had read this thread before going through that nonsense AGAIN, this is four in a row. I am so siiiick of it, I may start asking for deposits beforehand from anyone. Jesus.

 

not all that use bp are bad, I have had some very good clients through bp and other advertising, but you learn how to screen them and get a 'vibe' for the genuine ones.

Don't be afraid to let them know that you will give the location 15-20 minutes before the appointed time.

If they are truly serious, they will be there, but, there are a lot of timewasters out there.

 

Try giving a location that you can perhaps see from your windows as an area for them to contact you in. Or if there is some kind of landmark that you can use,, and have them describe it to you once they reach it, preferably not too far from your actual location.

 

I did this in one of my locations. I could see directly into a parking lot (where they could park their vehicle safely) but it also gave me the opportunity to see if they were indeed serious, lol

The 'I'm in the area' bs, you have no way of knowing, especially if they do not know your location. If you haven't given out the location, even a general area, they could be anywhere.

 

bp can be quite a lucrative marketing area, if we could get the scum of the earth to stop wasting time, lol.

Don't be afraid to put in your ads that you are looking for serious inquiries. If it takes a lot of texting, calls or looks like timewasting, it probably is.

 

Hopefully this helps a little, but hang in there, you will find a solution :-)

 

[star99 4852]

no shows or cancelling on a regular basis to me = no respect at all to the ladies in this industry.

 

it rarely happens that I have to cancel at the last minute, but I ALWAYS contact the escort or MA in advance.

 

it has recently happened to me that an escort was supposed to see me, and she claimed she had car trouble, and texted me at the time she was supposed to arrive. she made no effort to make other arrangements to meet. so I was not impressed at all. but it does happen.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Just one word of caution, when a lady books a client and gives the building address, only give the guy the buzz code. Do not give them the apartment number and tell them when they do buzz up to NOT address you by your working name as others may be coming through the front door.

 

If your real name is on the buzzer list, ask the building management to change it to "occupied" because of privacy reasons or a former relationship gone bad. And if you have a monitor on the t.v. to watch people come in, even better. This way you can see if they come through the front door when you buzz them in.

 

Anyone can claim to be in the area but if you want to take it one step further a landmark like a strip mall, gas station close to your place with a payphone will suffice. There are gentlemen out there who jumped through my hoops because they respected my safety. And I appreciate that. :)

[ggarret372 160]

Things do happen but if I can i always try to give 24 hours notice and re schedule. If it's a re occurring problem I agree with the comment above...deposit isn't a bad idea at all.

[Guest D***el B***e]

With no disrespect, cancellations are part of the business. Sometimes there's a genuine reason to cancel, other times it's downright disrespectful. I have to admit myself to having to cancel at the last minute for very legitimate reasons (whether you believe it or not) BUT I made up at my next visit, usually shortly after the cancellation. I also know this business is full of bottom-feeders, disrespectful people who "play'" the game. After a while, and after experiencing the no-shows and the cancellations, you will build that 'instinct' that tells you whether a client is real or not. I've been self-employed in my line of work for over thirty years and I know who's who, I know who the real people are based on the way they approach me, I know who the fakes are and I know if I should respond or not ... experience builds character and characters tells you what to do and when.

[Andee 220524]

I do not consider any appointment as being confirmed until the client calls a minimum of an hour for prebookings and half hour for same day bookings ahead to let me know he's on his way at which time I will give him the address of my visitor parking. When he arrives there then he needs to call again for my unit number.

[Liv Waters 52360]

Yes, last minute cancelations are a real pain!

 

Thankfully, I don't experience them too often, but, sometimes, they come in waves and that is frustrating because it can make a whole day a practical write off. I find this especially true for me because I build in a generous amount of time between appointments for self care...relaxing, making sure I make time for meals, etc., etc., so, not only is the timeframe of the appointment lost, but also any potential appointments one turned down in the planned 'break times' in between...So, a last minute cancellation on a one hour booking can potentially result in pretty much a whole afternoons income lost.

 

I find the following things to be helpful for me:

 

For new and repeat clients booking days and weeks in advance, I ask for confirmation of a date the day before by or before 4pm. If I do not receive confirmation, I assume the date is not a go ahead and open up my schedule for other bookings. I have had a few people get frustrated with me over this if/when they lose their opportunity to see me because they failed to confirm on time, but pre bookings are not an automatic right. They are a privilege and also something I greatly appreciate but only when a gent respects my time and confirmation protocols. Otherwise, it defeats the purpose of pre booking.

 

And, if contact is initiated first through email or text, I ask for that to be followed up by a phone call AT THE TIME OF RESERVATION, even if it is weeks in advance, and this also goes for when I am visiting Ottawa. While it does not prevent time wasters, or cancellations or no shows in general, it increases my confidence that the intended booking is sincere and makes the interaction more personal. I have actually had gentlemen tell me that the phone conversation makes them feel more accountable to respecting my time and more excited to see me because it is more personal...also meaning not waiting until the last minute to inform me of a cancellation, but rather telling me in advance even if they think they may not be able to honour their appointment because they do not want to lose out on the chance to see me in the future. For my Ottawa visits, I have had a few gentlemen come across as somewhat irritated that they would have to call me weeks in advance of a date in order to reserve a time with me. However, I stick to my protocols and most totally understand why I ask for this call. The call not only lets me know they are a sincere about booking, it lets me assess how they come across, and if I want to take the appointment at all. If someone sounds like a jerk, I don't want to block off 2, 3, 4, 5, hours of my time, only to find out the day before that I don't want to see this person.

 

Similar to what some of the other ladies in this thread have stated, I also ask that a check in happens an hour before meeting. If I don't hear from a gent by then, I know things are a no go, and because I accept same day appointments, often from regular and repeat clients, many of whom are spontaneous about checking in about my availability, then I am able to give them the appointment time or at least a start time shortly thereafter. I know some ladies do not provide same day appointments due their business models that work for them (total respect for that), but I find that offering same day appointments really helps me on a number of levels.

 

And, for sure, cancelations happen for very real reasons, and so I take that into account, but if it becomes a repeated issue with a given client (due to an unpredictable schedule), and say, it isn't too last minute and it is someone I am choosing to see again, I may say that I prefer if they check in with me same day to inquire about my availability and if we can work something out, then great. If someone cancels on me last minute, with few exceptions, (here in Kingston) I ask for a $100 cancellation fee payable at our next appointment if I choose to see them at all. For some, they will refuse to pay and just never call back, but for those who have already seen me, more often than not they will pay the fee. This helps to offset lost income, and also increases the likelihood that they will honour their bookings and/or at least to provide me with more advanced notice when they cannot make an arranged meeting time in the future.

 

Have I potentially 'lost' clients over staying firm on my protocols, sure. But, they are not the client base I want and it prevents a lot of headaches and frustration for me.

 

And, even with all of this, last minute cancellations still happen. Jenny, take a little comfort in knowing it is not you. We ladies know what you are going through.

 

Hugs!

 

Anna

[Victoria Phoenix 3403]

I feel yah Jenny! Cancellations are bad enough, but NO shows are the absolute worse! Very disrespectful, I waited an hour and a half, just today for a client, and that was even after a telephone confirmation! When I finally got ahold of him, he said he got lost, and decided to turn around and go back home! Ironically enough, I had given him

Specific directions, and where I reside is maybe a population of 12,000! Excuses Excuses!! So I have now blocked his number! As for my cancellations, I am

Thinking of implementing a fee, to add on to our next encounter, many of my clients are regulars, because I do live in a small area town,so I'm

Thinking that's the best way to handle them! Oh, I loved your statement about burning the pay check!! Your so right girl,, so right!!! We just have to keep going, and figure out the best way for each of us to handle the cancellations!! Hugs girl

[50 Shades Raven 31380]

wow, that is harsh to deal with.

Some people will never learn.

Not your fault at all.

 

Do yourself a favor though, right-click disable any of your pictures. This way it prevents people from using your pictures for purposes like this.

Some info, 'defamatory libel' under Canadian Tort Law http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Canadian_Criminal_Law/Offences/Defamatory_Libel

Knowingly stating false accusations is libel.

 

Don't let it get you down, we're all behind you :-)