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I find the diversity of our species to be incredible and awe inspiring. The stereotypical version of "perfection" is so transient because every shape is desirable if it is seen for exactly what it is...real. Willow, I think you look amazing and those that find a reason to berate only do so because the insecurity they have comes out. Not one of us is built exactly the same, even identical twins have minute differences and if we stop and really look there is something attractive in even those that our time says are imperfect. You are right to stand proud. You have what so many of us strive for but never achieve. Never apologize for something that is, especially when what is - is so appealing to the eye. Words only have the power to hurt if we personalize them and make them real. Hateful behavior can only exist in the dark, once the light is shone on it, it will dissipate. Every time the light shines, it is good for all... Cat

Well the girls age is what bothers me if there was a 15yr old in the room working throw the book at this jackass. There is no place in this hobby for guys or girls who use underage kids to benifit from it is just plain WRONG. I know if I go somewhere and the girl looks at all under aged I bail.

An interesting thread and I would propose that there are probably three types of guys who hobby. The "regular guy" who hobbies occasionally for whatever the reason. He does it once in a while, may have a few favourites, and is satisfied with the the infrequent experience. Then there are those others who are frequent hobbiests. The first of those are the true sex addicts, those who cannot control their impulses and who resort to whatever means necessary to get their "fix". When their need outstrips their means to procure the fix, problems occur. Usually that may involve ripping someone off, or spending way beyond their means, thus causing difficulties in their private lives. What is disturbing is that since they are driven to get their fix, another wise "nice guy" could cause problems when he doesn't have the means. This could mean violence, which is scary. In another life I worked in an environment where there was a high incidence of alcohol abuse. One of the key factors in deciding whether a person was an alcoholic or just a "heavy drinker", for want of a better term, was whether or not their use of alcohol caused problems in the rest of their life. (e.g. spousal abuse, problems with the law, poor performance at work, chronic absenteeism etc) In my opinion, this is the same as the true Sex Addict that has been described in Annessa's and other posts. However, I believe they are a very small minority in the hobby. The other, and more numerous type is those who have a strong sex drive and are prone to impulsive behaviour. They are one's who know that at certain times, they probably shouldn't be "making a date" or hobbying, but will do it because of a strong impulsive desire or the fear of missing an opportunity for something unique. They will not resort to extreme means, will generally check finances, and judge the "pros and cons", but will find what it is they are seeking. They act relatively responsibly, and show respect for others. They generally don't become a problem. They aren't sex addicts, they are just constantly horny. :lol: Just my 2 cents, based on life experience and a couple of University psych courses. LOL

interesting thread topic. I will say that I have dealt with some clients who are serious sex addicts and this is no laughing matter...it can be very dangerous. Trusted clients (whom I would almost call lovers) would turn from good people to crooks overnight. i remember when i didnt even smoke yet used to be the in-between as a teenager for a friend who sold pot and other things.....the return clients who would prove honest at first would eventually come back and ask for weekly fronts......delay paying because their wallet got stolen/ they were waiting for a cheque to come in/ got ripped off by their boss/ whatever story they had to not pay.....an uncontrolled addiction ....which is an oxymoron in itself (of ANYthing) will cause any honest person to burn whatever bridge possible to get what they want eventually...as every addiction has a price. whether it leads to a client digging himself and his family into debt, or not paying his escort, or even worse, becoming a threat to an escort for his lack of respect due to his needs......sexual addiction is VERY serious and generally has very serious results Just because you like the hobby or can't imagine your life without it does NOT make you an addict. losing control over your hobbying and taking advantage of others involved to feed your needs......thats something to worry about...and THATS addiction. we have heard many stories of SPs who trust a regular and leave the money on the table on for the client to replace some $50 bills with canadian tire money when they're not looking addiction states that you dont have a control over your hobby......there are plenty of ppl on this board who are able to keep up with their hobbying.....just because its a sweet "high" and difficult not to repeat doesn't really nail someone as a sex addict.....just the same some of us SPs thrive on the thrill of the idea of being mysterious sex-objects out on a mission of pleasure to strangers each evening.......it doesnt mean we are slaves to our turn ons and we will never put ourselves in harm's way despite our love for sex and our job. funny, I just watched the movie "The girlfriend Experience" (the movie filmed from the client's perspective" and I irked when he talked about the constant need and "going on binges" looking for street-walkers which lead to him eventually stalking a GFE.........that didn't play the role of the more respected client at all! there are so many degrees of being a hobbyist and being a sex adict is a totally different ball-game.....and a recipe for disaster or a plead for help or a proper intervention if you ask me I completely cringe when I see an SP post that shes a horny sex addict or a member jest that they have needs and are sex addicts.......sexual addiction, as buggernot said so perfectly, is more than a need for intimacy. it may start off that way but a true addict will eventually put everything and anything that really SHOULD matter (be it family, or even the women they are supposed to be paying as SPs) as a secondary priority to their selfish addiction. True clients who have needs generally know that being selfish will not land you a repeat date.......I have cut off men who I see as being consumed by a sexual addiction as it is a red flag for problems in the future I've learned many lessons about when to notice the signs, read the excuses of a trusted client. I know better now after being ripped off an over 1k chunk last month by a retainer client who saw too many girls at a time to keep up to what his pocket could manage. Ironically i found out later from a friend that he bought coke behind my back when we were out at a club...then tried to get his money back after he had done most of it because the quality was apparently sub-par. generally when an addict is faced with the invoice for what they owe there will be every and any reason to try and barter or play down the service they have received as a final plea to not have to own up to what they walked into willingly from the start.....drugs, sex, (tempted to say "rock and roll" lol), a once trusted relationship will always be thrown out the window due to money (or lack thereof) addiction tends to present itself in many forms (as I mentiond above).......generally a client who is an addict has little respect in the end for his so-called favorite SP. And an addict usually will be the one to rip a girl off or cut his losses because its not like we're a collection agency that will follow them to the grave, right? just my two (or three) cents

Due to a series of unfortunate events including losing the Great Gummy Bear Auction (ran on cerb chat) I decided to cheer myself up by visiting Malika, the Princess next door. Malika has one of the most playful DFK that I met and her oral body and nipple play are quite something. She is one of the few individuals whom I enjoy a BJ from and I'm no fan of BJ! She also enjoys oral play on her perky nipples and I found many sensitives points on her body while giving her a cat bath. As a DATY fan I'm happy to find a like minded responsive receiver. I particularly cherish our discussions of various subject areas and she manage to tie me up in one conversation! I didn't come close to sampling her entire offering (PSE, greek, giving Dom) in the time I was with her and will definitely repeat. Note: Malika has severe seafood allergies, please avoid consuming any seafood before visiting.

Archer, I think you have a great point about traditional views on monogamy affecting how people view sex workers and their clients. It is something that has been discussed indirectly in other threads and is definitely due some attention! Buggernot- I feel like my thoughts are so similar to yours that they may not even need stating but I have some pretty strong feelings on this subject so I am adding my two cents anyway- though they may look very similar to your 2 cents... Personally, I have come to learn that we- as animals- are highly driven by sex, especially me! I recently watched a video (linked from here maybe?) that mentioned how bizarro it is for us to expect monogamy when in reality the only animal who has yet to prove this consistently with no exceptions is some weird worm that lives in the stomach of a fish, who fuses with it's mate shortly after birth and is then stuck for life... We are setting ourselves up for disappointment when we expect others and ourselves to remain faithful forever. It can be especially hard to handle when we are the ones being cheated on, not to say that guilt doesn't have it's fair share of emotional weight... Many women have been raised to be "good girls" with the idea that you save yourself for your one true love and then live happily ever after. Unfortunately for the good girls, simultaneously, there have also been enough "bad girls" to fulfil the naughty desires of their husbands... (and vice versa) Of course finding out that your one true love has sullied your happily ever after is a touch hard to deal with and strangely it is more natural to harbour bad feelings against the "bad girls" for being bad when in reality these good girls are simply displacing their own insecurities/fears/anger onto the sex worker/mistress/girlfriend/insert other bad girl type here to make themselves believe that their husband had no choice but to stray/be tempted/corrupted/ etc... Perhaps some of the problem also lies within the "bad-boy" syndrome- tell me I can't/shouldn't have something and it only makes me want it more... In order to change this harbouring of negative feelings against sex workers and bad girls/boys in general it is important for couples to communicate about what is expected vs. what is actually going to happen even if that is something that neither of them wants at the time of the initial topic discussion. A friend I met on vacation recently told me how his gf made sure he brought condoms with him "just in case" and then told him to have fun! That is truly refreshing, and just the kind of mentality and acceptance that we all need to adopt in order to live happier and more peaceful lives without displacing our anger or insecurities on the lovers of our lovers. As soon as we stop lying to ourselves and each other we will stop all this negativity from being created to begin with, and then focus our energy on more fulfilling activities, like more sexy time for instance... ; )

Bella is amazingly intelligent and a true gift to CERB!!!! Tracie

Nothing like laying my junk on Dora or Spongbob