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I think the bigger issue here is that you didn't use PM effectively which can irritate a lot of users, not just ladies in this industry but in all businesses that use social networking. Private Message is a lot like email, it isn't a form of instant communication but rather should be used much like writing a letter. When you write a PM you should include a greeting, a brief introduction (provided you have not communicated before), the purpose of your message and a closing. The message you sent had no clear no purpose so the person responding did not know it's intent and effectively had no idea how to respond or what the appropriate response would be. If you had said "Hi Kyra, My name is Wally and I was reading your post on Widgets, I thought it was rather funny. I am a shy guy and I wanted to take a moment to introduce myself. I live in Nantucket I own a large bucket factory which brings me to Toronto regularly. I hope to hear from you soon. Kind regards, Wally" I would know who you are, what the purpose of the letter is and I would be able to start a conversation. At this point you will find out if you are contacting the type of lady that interests you as you seek someone that you can connect with in advance (via conversation), there is nothing wrong with either styles of companion but they are different and you can choose which suits you best. If she does not wish to connect via conversation she will let you know and you can seek out someone that will, if she prefers the connection then you can carry on with the conversation and arrange a date when you feel comfortable. The point is to ensure that you are using PM, email, text, etc. effectively, failure to do so and the message will be lost no matter what lady you contact. I very much enjoy a conversation with my companions must admit that had you sent me the same one line PM you sent her I would likely wait 3-5 days to respond then would reply with the word "good" or "pleasing". It should be noted I would reply without quoting the original message. ;)

I am not sure how to explain the way I feel about this thread as I respect everyone's point of view but I can't understand how someone would respond to a potential client in such a rude way. I mentioned in another thread once we (SP's) owe potential clients the same respect any other service provider owes to people interested in their service/product only that normally they are not as lucky as we are to get to decide if we want to see the person interested or not which is not how it usually works in any other business and when it does, one of the first things someone dealing with clients is taught is to always be respectful so yes, there is nothing wrong with choosing not to see a client but that can be done without being harsh or impolite. As for the chat/pm exchanging well, I was surprised to find that most ladies do not want to chat 'just for conversation' I mean, I understand there is some members there who definitely do not know how to approach a lady but I have had the pleasure of being in very nice conversations with a few of the gentlemen there some of them I know I'll never meet as they are not in Ottawa but I still enjoy our chats and learn from them. Anyway, I'm glad things were clarified between MH and the girl and I guess a piece of advice or lesson for all of us is not to answer PM or email if we are in a bad mood :)

I am afraid I have to disagree as I have had and continue to have very rewarding non date related conversations with ladies of this board. Admittedly these conversations usually stem from friendships developed after meeting a lady in person but this is not always the case. Furthermore asking someone "how they are doing" does not warrant such a harsh response. This lady has lost a potential client, possibly a repeat client and I believe there is a thread here on Cerb about how business is down amongst ladies as of late. Makes one wonder...does it not?

Rude doesn't begin to describe it. It seems the person in question forgets that the "S" in SP is service. I don't know many people who would have much success in any service industry with that attitude. Not to say she had to reply, she could have ignored the PM or replied in a polite manner. That response was rude and arrogant. Probably a good indication of a person to avoid, and quite probably an indication of less than stellar service.

I have not been all that active lately but on a whim Friday, didn't want to drive in the mad rush to get out of the city that was I decided to drop in at CMJ as it had been a while since I was in for a session. After checking the schedule I noticed that the new Lady Emily was now working solo so decided to drop in for an hour session, should have stayed longer and wished I had as our time went by way too fast but I did have plans. Emily's description as stated is bang on ..... The ladies of CMJ and I would like to welcome Emily an absolutely stunning woman with a body to die for - she is also a well known dancer who has decided to join us. I was greeted by a lovely lady with a big smile and knew I was in for a nice evening. Jasmine has defiantly found another Gem here. The one thing that always keeps me coming back is when I meet someone where it just doesn't seem like business and Emily has that quality about her. What followed was your typical CMJ experience, cosy shower for two a nice massage and great conversation. Seeing how I was only Emily's second solo session I was surprised how comfortable and smooth everything went though she does still have a few things to work on it was a truly enjoyable experience. There is no need to go into a long drawn out description here but a word of caution .... Be careful guy' Emily is a real charmer that will keep you coming back for more. I know I will be. :-P

As there was a excellent thread started by Lindsay. Link right here. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31793 I had thought it might be a good idea, as why/what certain circumstances that a SP/MA would refuse to see a client. Just so some men can understand the challenges that you ladies may go through in a day with clients. Example- Rude through email, asking for services that already specified not offered,gut instinct? It just might end up being a sticky for the newbie area?

SEYMOUR!!!! Second highest poster on CERB, but not just quantity, the quality of his reviews are second to none and are certainly much appreciated.

Well if I'm reading this correctly, MH simply asked a very nice question, and really got brushed off very quickly. I think it is rude period. I have been known to send pm's to ladies throughout the West coast and East coast of Canada and I never have had a lady give me a come back like that. I enjoy the art of flirtation, when I say the art, I take my time and express what I need to say in my words, If I'm setting up an appointment or like to chat in a pm format I do so.I don't go into the chat room very much at all. I do this quite frequent ;) through pm's and emails to do actual bookings. If a lady does not respond through pm/email to myself within reason,I normally move on. So I don't think that MH was a time waster,tire kicker maybe perhaps he was getting to the point was not allowed by the lady in question after her quick response. My take on it.

makes you wonder but when we were young it was look at that girl/guy next who,s going out with who- then it was -look who,s getting married -which progressed to -look who,s having kids then look who,s breaking up -then look who,s sleeping with whom and then look at the grand kids - look at my health and i guess finally look who,s no longer here- is it just the passage of life itself good question !

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very well put Speedstick, I have to say though that being blunt and being rude sometimes are confused and I think that all the lady in question was doing was trying to explain *why* she does things this way....probably could have dealt without the "thats baloney.." part, but personally I think if she really wanted her reputation slaughtered she could have done a lot worse, lol. a good point about chat being a convenient time to say "hi whats up?". sometimes I have received a couple one line messages....i didnt end up replying and if I did I would say, I'm sorry but if you have a request, fine...but I am not by my computer to answer 24/7...this is what chat is for" i get one message: "Hi are you around" I reply saying "yes" thinking maybe hes looking for my availability he replies saying: "oh hello, how are you this evening?" I reply simply "good" didnt hear back at all so decided to go about my evening (away from the computer) I came back later to another message that was sent 2 hours later saying "well I'm looking for an outcall and I love your pics, could we meet tonight at my place around 10pm? please let me know" umm.....if you needed to make a booking why not mention it right off the bat? One liner emails IMO deserve one-liner replies. I'm not wiling to put any more effort into my messages than the client messaging me is willing to do in the first place. to the OP, if you were interested in booking the lady there is no harm in telling her that you are interested...you have to realize that there are MANY guys that we deal with that only want to email back and forth and not actually book, I'm not saying you're one of those guys but I dont blame the SP for being blunt. Also its not like she did it out of the blue...you had messaged her before the same thing. she could be annoyed/having a bad day etc....but sometimes cutting to the chase is ok...... Think about it this way....if you handed your resume to someone you met and they called you and left you messages saying "hey, thanks for the resume, how are ya? hows your day going?" you're obviously not going to call them back right away and pour your life story out to that stranger....now if the potential boss called you back and said that they were considering hiring you but wanted to come in for a secondary interview and that was why he called....well then that would be a different story. not to say its about money, but in the end our time is money and if you have a request or interest, tell us...we are quicker to reply to someone who we know is interested in us than someone who might not be interested in us at all...just the conversation

See.... you can totally carry on a conversation! Here's my take on the "what's up" guys.. or "how is your day going"? guys. My issue is that when someone saysjust hi.. or what's up.. they are just being completely lazy. It's not shy.. I can totally handle shy. I get shy guys all the time. If you were too shy you wouldn't have bothered emailing to begin with.. It's also correct that it's nice to say hi, how are you doing? But not as a complete message. It's a greeting.. you could have simply asked in the same message if I she were available and if you could book.

If you're looking for a rub and tug, don't expect it from a RMT - Registered Massage Therapist. They are licensed and regulated and if found out performing such services, would lose their license. As I said in another thread, insurance companies are not in the business of subsidizing your sex life.

For starters... one of the complaints I hear about the most while making small talk with SPs (in regards to OTHER clients) is first-time-visitors that don't take the time to read the whole website/ad etc... and ask questions that could have been avoidable, the number one question being rates. Some of the high class ladies (salutations to those of you I have met ;) ) prefer not to talk about rates AT ALL. TBH neither do I. The business part of a visit is the least fun. If a lady appears to be worth your time visiting, give her the respect and do your own research! my two cents :)